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Title: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: tolkuy on August 21, 2018, 10:40:22 AM

Over the past six days, the Crypto-currency has risen in price by 8%. Today, its rate may decrease, says CoinDesk analyst Omkar Godboul
On Monday, August 20, the average market rate of Bitcoin rose above $ 6500, after which it declined. Now the Crypto currency is trading at $ 6,480, August 14, its price was $ 5,980, over the past six days it has risen 8%. At the same time, the total capitalization of the industry grew by $ 27 billion.

According to the expert CoinDesk Omkara Godboula, in the near future the price of bitcoin should remain above the $ 6320 zone, otherwise the rate will again fall to the level of $ 6000. Then, the Crypto currency may fall to $ 5859 and $ 5755.

On the other hand, if the coin value can rise above $ 6595, it will reach the $ 7000 zone. Bitcoin will begin to recover gradually if it can consolidate above $ 7067. In the near future this is less likely than a negative scenario.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: stayeduptolate on August 23, 2018, 05:54:35 AM

Over the past six days, the Crypto-currency has risen in price by 8%. Today, its rate may decrease, says CoinDesk analyst Omkar Godboul
On Monday, August 20, the average market rate of Bitcoin rose above $ 6500, after which it declined. Now the Crypto currency is trading at $ 6,480, August 14, its price was $ 5,980, over the past six days it has risen 8%. At the same time, the total capitalization of the industry grew by $ 27 billion.

According to the expert CoinDesk Omkara Godboula, in the near future the price of bitcoin should remain above the $ 6320 zone, otherwise the rate will again fall to the level of $ 6000. Then, the Crypto currency may fall to $ 5859 and $ 5755.

On the other hand, if the coin value can rise above $ 6595, it will reach the $ 7000 zone. Bitcoin will begin to recover gradually if it can consolidate above $ 7067. In the near future this is less likely than a negative scenario.
We all know that bitcoin is a volatile crypto currency and being volatile in nature its valuation keeps on flactuation with time so its valuation are subject to pump and dumps according to the market demand and supply so one needs not to worry about this deflated valuation because the time will come when the valuation will inflate again and this assumptions is also according to some financial experts and till then holding your bitcoins is the best solution.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: CODE200 on August 23, 2018, 06:19:48 AM

Over the past six days, the Crypto-currency has risen in price by 8%. Today, its rate may decrease, says CoinDesk analyst Omkar Godboul
On Monday, August 20, the average market rate of Bitcoin rose above $ 6500, after which it declined. Now the Crypto currency is trading at $ 6,480, August 14, its price was $ 5,980, over the past six days it has risen 8%. At the same time, the total capitalization of the industry grew by $ 27 billion.

According to the expert CoinDesk Omkara Godboula, in the near future the price of bitcoin should remain above the $ 6320 zone, otherwise the rate will again fall to the level of $ 6000. Then, the Crypto currency may fall to $ 5859 and $ 5755.

On the other hand, if the coin value can rise above $ 6595, it will reach the $ 7000 zone. Bitcoin will begin to recover gradually if it can consolidate above $ 7067. In the near future this is less likely than a negative scenario.

Definitely, the ups and downs movement of it's value is literally normal things to happen on it's system therefore when the value of it is lessen $7k we may considered it as a good range of value where in this the right time to invest into it. We can't actually predict how far it may be in the bottom range of value, maybe it will begin to rising up in the next few days so as of now this will be the best time for investment. Don't hesitate to invest now because for sure there will be the better product in the near future. Just remember that always keep patience so in the future we can able to reach our sweet success.   


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: spazie on August 23, 2018, 06:43:21 AM
That's very true, recently the price of bitcoin began to slowly rise and this was the beginning of the rise of King Crypto, I see only bitcoin is starting to stabilize.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: BlockchainGod on August 23, 2018, 06:45:01 AM
I think buying bitcoin is stupid now. The price may fall lower especially if we take into account the deviation of bitcoin ETF today.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: Kenthunan_rondo on August 23, 2018, 06:58:01 AM
Now is the right time to buy bitcoin, the market price is decreasing it is time for investors to seek profits.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: Mary Birkin on August 23, 2018, 07:22:28 AM
I think buying bitcoin is stupid now. The price may fall lower especially if we take into account the deviation of bitcoin ETF today.
Yeah! SEC rejects 9 Bitcoin ETF applications: from ProShares, Direxion, and GraniteShares. I think BTC can drop to 6. Interesting that, experts told that about growth last week!


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: franky1 on August 23, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
forget about trying to predict how high the next ATH will be
forget about trying to predict how soon the next ATH will be

instead realise the most important thing is to know what the LOW average is expected to be.

and here is a tip.. look at the cost of mining.

EG - back of an envelope math...
take 47exahash network hashrate, thats 47000000 terahash
an asic is 14trra (fixd number worth remembering)
so 47000000/14
so thats 3.3mill ASICS needed

imagine electric
at 6cents an hour (to cover 5cent/kwh at an asics 1.3kw (back of envelop rounded math)
0.06*3.3m
=$198k an hour /6blocks /12.5btc =$2640/btc for electric

imagiine unit cost
recent batch of $850 per asic and lastability is 1 year..
so lets break it down to an hour 850/365/24 = ill call it 10cents for back of envelop math
0.10*3.3m
=$330k an hour /6 blocks /12.5btc = $4400/btc for unit cost
total cost to mine= $7k/btc

final tip. miners dont sell coins on exchanges instantly as soon as they receive them
so sorry this math cannot predict prices to the minute.
no one can predict exact prices, exact dates
no one can predict how high a hype bubble the next ATH will be or when
no one can predict if or when prices will stay low or for how long

but it can guage roughly the low area/zone for the month
so take a months overview and take the lowst hashrate you see and the highest. to see the area/zone of break even
https://www.blockchain.com/en/charts/hash-rate?timespan=30days
37exa(28th july)-54exa (11th aug)

and look at the months low of 37exa and months top of 54exa.. you will see a range of $5.7k-$8k for the month. and now guess what the high and low bitcoin PRICE swing was for the month.. yep $5.7k-$8k
magic right... nope. its math

you can atleast find a safe zone of average expectancy of the low price to know if bitcoin is near a low(within the area/zone) or hyped up(way above the area/zone)

final final tip
look more broadly at the hasrate over a year. and draw a couple lines of expected future direction of the lowst hash expctation and highest expectation.. then do some math


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: dang thi bich thuy on August 23, 2018, 08:56:16 AM
Bitcoin suffered too much publicity from banning advertise on social networking sites like Facebook, Line and now Goodgle. So Bitcoin prices on the downturn but besides good information Bitcoin glue also. If Bitcoin is coming through the ETF and the government is accepting, it is a stepping stone to Bitcoin prices once again.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: Legendari on August 23, 2018, 09:21:21 AM
No, I think buying bitcoin is still too early. The FUD flow is still strong and too little time has passed since the previous bullcoin bull trend. I personally wait for $ 5000 to buy.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: dungthuy on August 23, 2018, 09:28:14 AM
I think we are all familiar with the volatility of bitcoin. The movement of ups and downs in bitcoin's price cannot predict, but despite of the rising price recently, still it is a little early to me to buy bitcoin at moment like this. I myself will wait for it goes lower, still listening to the market and waiting


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: Dessy Nurvianti on August 23, 2018, 09:28:46 AM
Every market of crypto isn't stable today. But i hope it will be better soon. If we want to buy bitcoin at right time is too hard to make sure of it. If you want to invest in BTC your mentally must ready to take every risk, but the risk will not affected if you have enough knowledge. :)


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: MainIbem on August 23, 2018, 09:54:10 AM
There has not been a time you put out bitcoin for sale and there is no buyer. It tells you that there is no best time to buy. It is only speculation that makes people ask such questions. It depends on what you want to buy bitcoin coin for.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: burky156 on August 23, 2018, 10:16:38 AM
I think this is the right time to buy bitcoin today, i am sure that the price will go higher. The bubble roumors has stopped and everyone understood that the bitcoin will stay with us forever. I think that the people will feel very bad who doesn't have bitcoin in the near future.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: 131tc01n on August 23, 2018, 10:20:26 AM
I think the news is true, because bitcoin still has the potential to go down again, so now is not the right time to buy bitcoin, the right solution is to hold down USDT first, you wait for bitcoin prices to fall because bitcoin will go down again


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: PIMPdev on August 23, 2018, 10:46:30 AM
There is a common-law right here which would say that you should buy when the price is low, the price is already not low but comparing to the Future predictions the price is low.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: jayveerastrullo on August 23, 2018, 11:16:58 AM
Buying bitcoin is the most crucial thing to do in the market because now the price is high later on the lrice goes down. So you need a perfect timing where bitcoin is frofitable for you for the next month. When the lricye is above 7k it is not tha worth to buy just wait another day then you can buy for about 500 lower.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: Ruffian1314 on August 23, 2018, 11:23:51 AM
It is the best time to buy bitcoin if you are going to hodl because it is already at a very low price and hodl it until gets back to its all time high price like what happened last year. But if your going to for the short term maybe try to wait more until it falls down to $5700 like what you mentioned.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 26, 2018, 09:33:29 AM
forget about trying to predict how high the next ATH will be
forget about trying to predict how soon the next ATH will be

instead realise the most important thing is to know what the LOW average is expected to be.

and here is a tip.. look at the cost of mining.

EG - back of an envelope math...
take 47exahash network hashrate, thats 47000000 terahash
an asic is 14trra (fixd number worth remembering)
so 47000000/14
so thats 3.3mill ASICS needed

imagine electric
at 6cents an hour (to cover 5cent/kwh at an asics 1.3kw (back of envelop rounded math)
0.06*3.3m
=$198k an hour /6blocks /12.5btc =$2640/btc for electric

imagiine unit cost
recent batch of $850 per asic and lastability is 1 year..
so lets break it down to an hour 850/365/24 = ill call it 10cents for back of envelop math
0.10*3.3m
=$330k an hour /6 blocks /12.5btc = $4400/btc for unit cost
total cost to mine= $7k/btc

final tip. miners dont sell coins on exchanges instantly as soon as they receive them
so sorry this math cannot predict prices to the minute.
no one can predict exact prices, exact dates
no one can predict how high a hype bubble the next ATH will be or when
no one can predict if or when prices will stay low or for how long

but it can guage roughly the low area/zone for the month
so take a months overview and take the lowst hashrate you see and the highest. to see the area/zone of break even
https://www.blockchain.com/en/charts/hash-rate?timespan=30days
37exa(28th july)-54exa (11th aug)

and look at the months low of 37exa and months top of 54exa.. you will see a range of $5.7k-$8k for the month. and now guess what the high and low bitcoin PRICE swing was for the month.. yep $5.7k-$8k
magic right... nope. its math

you can atleast find a safe zone of average expectancy of the low price to know if bitcoin is near a low(within the area/zone) or hyped up(way above the area/zone)

final final tip
look more broadly at the hasrate over a year. and draw a couple lines of expected future direction of the lowst hash expctation and highest expectation.. then do some math

so according to this, the average price of bitcoin can be at $5.7-$8k. and if we want to buy bitcoin, make sure that we are at this level, right? maybe we can buy bitcoin when the dip is coming ( we have a different opinion to determine the dip, so we need to know this first and then decide to buy bitcoin ).

so if the price now is at $6627 and it still on the red line, maybe we need to wait for a while and check the buy order and order sell at the market, then determine where is the safe zone to buy bitcoin. yes, I like this because, with this, we can determine what price we want to place the buy order. thank you frank1. I hope that we can buy in the safe zone and we can make a profit again.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: CryptoGamblingSites on August 26, 2018, 09:46:58 AM
Dont take advice from random people online for when to buy bitcoin. You know your financial situation and have followed bitcoin (https://www.cryptogamblingsites.com/bitcoin/) for however long you have, the time is right for most people at very different times.



Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: Bounty_Hunter on August 26, 2018, 09:51:25 AM
I'm afraid it's too early to buy. The price is not stable yet and bitcoin may drop below $ 6,000. I think spring or winter would be a good time for shopping)


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: godfredmanu on August 26, 2018, 09:57:43 AM
There shouldn't be a specific timeline to indicate it is a time to buy or not but I think the price now is at its lowest and buying bitcoins now will make you a profit in case the price goes above 8000 to 10000 in the next few months which is highly possible.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: omonuyak on August 26, 2018, 10:16:02 AM
To buy bitcoin you can used coinbase and and of the exchanges. I believe that the current recovery may get bitcoin above $7500 before we can see another correction again. To buy bitcoin now that the price is low will give more profit in years to come.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: Febo on August 26, 2018, 01:28:50 PM
I think buying bitcoin is stupid now. The price may fall lower especially if we take into account the deviation of bitcoin ETF today.

I totally disagree with you if you buy on long term. Even medium term. If you plan to hold your bitcoins for 5 years, bow and next year is best chance of your lifetime. What is left of your lifetime of course. You will never have better chance again.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: nidacoinlove on August 26, 2018, 01:48:09 PM
I think buying bitcoin is stupid now. The price may fall lower especially if we take into account the deviation of bitcoin ETF today.

I totally disagree with you if you buy on long term. Even medium term. If you plan to hold your bitcoins for 5 years, bow and next year is best chance of your lifetime. What is left of your lifetime of course. You will never have better chance again.
Planing to hold for a long term is a good idea but it needs a lot of patience and some huge courageous nerves to fight with the time. By the way I personally like target based holding. It minimises the risk ratio as well as you are most of the time updated with with the events and occurrences to get a good view of the market. You get more opportunities to achieve your target.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: rickadone on August 26, 2018, 01:56:06 PM

Over the past six days, the Crypto-currency has risen in price by 8%. Today, its rate may decrease, says CoinDesk analyst Omkar Godboul
On Monday, August 20, the average market rate of Bitcoin rose above $ 6500, after which it declined. Now the Crypto currency is trading at $ 6,480, August 14, its price was $ 5,980, over the past six days it has risen 8%. At the same time, the total capitalization of the industry grew by $ 27 billion.

According to the expert CoinDesk Omkara Godboula, in the near future the price of bitcoin should remain above the $ 6320 zone, otherwise the rate will again fall to the level of $ 6000. Then, the Crypto currency may fall to $ 5859 and $ 5755.

On the other hand, if the coin value can rise above $ 6595, it will reach the $ 7000 zone. Bitcoin will begin to recover gradually if it can consolidate above $ 7067. In the near future this is less likely than a negative scenario.
It is still at a very low price compared to what it can achieve as we already saw. Bitcoin has potential to go way beyond $20k and still stay around those prices for a long time, its just a matter of time before another huge bull run happens. The prices of bitcoin was around 900 dollars last year and than went to 20k, there is still a chance that bitcoin goes above $20k and closer to $30k from $6k levels. So i think buying even now is great chance at the dip.

People bought bitcoin when it was $20k thinking bitcoin will be going to $100k or whatever and now they are sad they purchased so high but when you tell people to buy at the dip so they can cash out when bull comes again they are afraid, than they watch the bull run sadly and try to get in too late and hope they can make profit.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: talkbitcoin on August 26, 2018, 02:26:41 PM
the price of bitcoin should remain above the $ 6320 zone, otherwise the rate will again fall to the level of $ 6000. Then, the Crypto currency may fall to $ 5859 and $ 5755.

On the other hand, if the coin value can rise above $ 6595, it will reach the $ 7000 zone.

i think now everyone knows how bullshit speculations like these are. it is funny that sometimes it comes from news sites like Coindesk,...
we all know that bitcoin is volatile and its fluctuations don't mean rise or fall. in other words going down to $6000 does NOT mean going further down. and going up to $6595+ does NOT mean it should rise up. as you can see price has been above that price for more than 2 days now and we have not yet went above $7k.

at this point the market is still controlled by the fear and is supported by the strong belief that $6k is the bottom. and as long as these two are around we will stay in the same range: between $5.9k-6k and $7k-$7.5k and it is neither a rise or fall worthy of mention, when it goes up and down within this range.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: Febo on August 31, 2018, 04:36:57 PM
I think buying bitcoin is stupid now. The price may fall lower especially if we take into account the deviation of bitcoin ETF today.

I totally disagree with you if you buy on long term. Even medium term. If you plan to hold your bitcoins for 5 years, bow and next year is best chance of your lifetime. What is left of your lifetime of course. You will never have better chance again.
Planing to hold for a long term is a good idea but it needs a lot of patience and some huge courageous nerves to fight with the time. By the way I personally like target based holding. It minimises the risk ratio as well as you are most of the time updated with with the events and occurrences to get a good view of the market. You get more opportunities to achieve your target.

No. Holding long time is totally simple. You dont have to do anything at all. Cant be more simple as that. But if you want to do something I suggest you this SSS method. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345065.0    You sell 10% when price doubles and buy back when decreases. This way you never miss moon, so sale to early and you also get returned your investment and dont end up with full bags.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: phpartisanmaster on August 31, 2018, 06:04:11 PM
I think buying bitcoin is stupid now. The price may fall lower especially if we take into account the deviation of bitcoin ETF today.

I totally disagree with you if you buy on long term. Even medium term. If you plan to hold your bitcoins for 5 years, bow and next year is best chance of your lifetime. What is left of your lifetime of course. You will never have better chance again.

yes you are right, investing a huge amount right now will give you an opportunity to become wealthy in the future since the market price is volatile and bitcoins is very low for so long.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: Slow death on August 31, 2018, 09:42:18 PM
On the other hand, if the coin value can rise above $ 6595, it will reach the $ 7000 zone. Bitcoin will begin to recover gradually if it can consolidate above $ 7067. In the near future this is less likely than a negative scenario.

 it's been 9 days since this post and it seems the price is struggling to stay above $ 6900 and since we do not have good news to drive a big price increase, we can imagine that the price will fall to $ 6200. it has been very bad months for bitcoin and altcoins, I would not have imagined that I would ever see the ETH price below $ 280. Imagine the losses that many people must be having with these price falls


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: adzino on August 31, 2018, 09:51:21 PM
On the other hand, if the coin value can rise above $ 6595, it will reach the $ 7000 zone. Bitcoin will begin to recover gradually if it can consolidate above $ 7067. In the near future this is less likely than a negative scenario.

 it's been 9 days since this post and it seems the price is struggling to stay above $ 6900 and since we do not have good news to drive a big price increase, we can imagine that the price will fall to $ 6200. it has been very bad months for bitcoin and altcoins, I would not have imagined that I would ever see the ETH price below $ 280. Imagine the losses that many people must be having with these price falls
The price does not always depends on "good" news or "bad" news. Moreover, the price did go above $7,000 for a brief moment and then fall back below $6,900. But right now we can see that the price has once again gone above $7,050 which is actually a good sign for us. Hoping to see the price exceed $7,500 within the end of the next two week which is quite possible if the price can sustain above $7,000.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: chris200x9 on August 31, 2018, 11:24:21 PM
I think buying bitcoin is stupid now. The price may fall lower especially if we take into account the deviation of bitcoin ETF today.

No, I think buying bitcoin is still too early. The FUD flow is still strong and too little time has passed since the previous bullcoin bull trend. I personally wait for $ 5000 to buy.

I'm afraid it's too early to buy. The price is not stable yet and bitcoin may drop below $ 6,000. I think spring or winter would be a good time for shopping)

What I know is no one knows the market bottom and everyone just doing a guessing game based on some past performance and current news. But market never moves based on our calculations so what I think is we should start buying in small amount instead of waiting for the market bottom. In case of a market don't reach to your bottom price then you may just keep watching market but never really enjoy the profit.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: arsenti on September 01, 2018, 12:15:57 AM
I'm afraid it's too early to buy. The price is not stable yet and bitcoin may drop below $ 6,000. I think spring or winter would be a good time for shopping)

Even if it does drop below 6k, it will not stay there...the risk/return rewards are looking very much in favour of buying now


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: weblouartisan on September 01, 2018, 11:12:49 AM
I'm afraid it's too early to buy. The price is not stable yet and bitcoin may drop below $ 6,000. I think spring or winter would be a good time for shopping)

In my own opinion, investing a huge amount today is the best thing you can do since the market prices are still low and you will be surely earning a huge amount of profit if you invest today.


Title: Re: When to buy Bitcoin. The price of the coin exceeded $ 6500
Post by: Febo on September 01, 2018, 09:06:38 PM
I feel that the price of Bitcoin will not go below $5000-$000, so if anyone is interested in stocking up their wallet, I think now is the best time to do it.  And I mean,  the years is almost coming to an end and what we forget to understand is that 2018 was suppose to be a year of buying more (if you have the capital) and hodling cause it's a year of correction. The coming year may bring more pump.

Even if it will go under $5000. Does that matter? No i dont, because if it goes that low it will stay there for a day or a week. Price will then move a pit up and just slightly move up and down for few months. Bottom line is Bitcoin under $10k is cheap. What is under $7k is a robbery.  5 years from now you would kill for a time machine to return to 2018. Probably 3 years from now.