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Hi guys,

I am Kevin, living in Spain.
Since I moved to Spain after selling my business in Belgium I have looooots of free time. Since I moved I put lot more time in my hobby, gambling. I mostly focussed on online poker and sports betting. But until now it was more for fun than making money.

In the past I have been involved in a couple syndicates and pooled into a shared bankroll. Now I am ready to set up a pool myself.
I am looking for max 20-25 persons that are willing to put 25-50$ each into the pool.

My intention is to gather a shared bankroll of about 500-1,250USD to start placing bets. This syndicate isn't ment to make money fast. I have been following a strategy myself for some time by placing single bets with max 5% of my entire bankroll and used profits to let my bankroll grow. You can compare by compounding interests.


I am searching for sport betting addicts/lovers like myself to team up in a syndicate. Intention is to form a group in telegram, whatssapp or whatever to discuss our future bets. I am not intending to collect money and handle the bankroll entirely myself. I am living in Spain so I am limited in betting sites. by teaming up we can spread our funds over multiple accounts.


How it works

Limited to 25 persons max, first come first serve

Step 1: If interested fill in following Form (https://goo.gl/forms/ai7dBOc00JkHiRzD3)
Step 2: Send me a PM for payment details. I take crypto or can take several e wallets if necessary.
Step 3: after receiving the payment I add you to the private group
Step 4: Lets bet and have fun.


 rules:
- We offer a payout twice a month every second and 4th monday of every months
- At this 2 moments a member can also decide to leave the group. If someone leaves we invite the first person on our reserve list.
- we use private chats to discuss bets. Every member can suggest bets and we will discuss which one we will play.


If we can successfully launch this syndicate we can in future launch a website platform and offer syndicates on a large scale with our primary group as the core of the platform.

You're pretty new here compared to the existing shared pool of bettors. You know, people wouldn't blindly trust you with their monies. You think an escrow would be an essential part here? Also, there is barely any proof for the stuff mentioned in the post.

Why do not you do all the betting yourself if you know a strategy that works to beat the bookies?

He might believe that most people here are fool enough to took the bait.


He do loves to collect peoples money.  :)

Yes, he might believe because there may be some candidates for him. Since people blindly invest in cloud minings, why don't to invest in it? As he mentioned, he is looking for sport betting addicts <-- this category of people is easy to follow, they think they can profit from betting but when they lose a lot, try to get lost money back and still continue losing. Good idea but hope you'll fail.

If you need help with placed  bets, I can help you. I have option for offline betting. Also we can place on Tennis ITF matches.

Telegram: offlinebetting

This type of offer i have seen lot in Facebook, where they will give you free tip first from one id and another tip from another id so which ever id wins they start charging and when they lose next bet they will tell that they will compensate on it. Same thing they do in Syndicate. As who have hold of Syndicate money he play according to his will and if won will run away and if lost will tell to invest more and give assurance of winning in next bet.

In the end everything will end in loss or scam

Not to discredit your service (if that's what you call it) but it seems a lot more easier and less complicated to just be ton your own.

It sounds like there are many people involved for your strategy to legitimately work in favor for all participants; but anything is possible I suppose...

Thats an excluded situation for those who are really addicted to sport betting which they would definitely try up each possible methods which they do saw that can possibly help them up to make good bets
without being justified and just pure verbal on what are the claims on what OP is saying.He just said he do live on Spain which do limits him to play on gambling sites but if hes serious to make money then out of thousand dollars he can definitely make some decent profits on his own and spoil it off.

I absolutely agree with what's been said here. I wouldn't trust just any member here for such a service, and you're basically a new member offering such a service here. I doubt many people are going to sign up for this syndicate with you having such little forum rep, and I am personally very suspicious about this, especially when no escrow is offered here.

The age of a member absolutely does dictate how reputable that person is to me. I value someone who has been on this forum for a while and has a decent transaction and reputation history over someone like you who is claiming to provide documents to prove legitimacy. There's just too much scamming going around here.

Why do you want to disclose so many personal details for a few hundred dollars instead you can start betting yourself to avoid all these issues. Whether your good or bad, it doesn't matter to people because there are many scams happening these days so no one will believe unknown people online. Also, it is not so difficult to get a lot of fake ID's to share online.

As I mentioned in the topic. I am not intending to collect peoples money. I only want to create a group to be able to bet with a bigger bankroll. I even do not care if I collect the money or someone with a higher trust rate.

it pisses me of that every member that is pretty new always gets seen as a scammer that wants to collect money. But well apparently  thats the usual stuff over here.

But no worries, if no one shows interest than so be it.

true, I know there is a lot of scamming around here. But it just isn't fair to see every pretty new member as a scammer without knowing him. But of course its peoples right to point someone as a scammer.
Thats why I told I wouldn't mind to do id verification (and no fake one)

And I wouldn't mind if a more 'reputable' person in the group would handle the money. I really do not care. I only wanted to start a fun group to do some pooled sports betting.
Myself I am more specialized in Belgian, Dutch, Spanish football and Darts. I thought I would be nice to create a group with people specialized in several other sports.

can be easier, but its much less fun. When I lived in Belgium before moving to Spain we had a syndicate as well. Me and some friends pooling. Much more fun if you can discuss possible bets with a group of people.
We placed online and offline bets and just shared the profits (if we had) every 2 or 4 weeks) Not that difficult to handle

i am looking for people that like sports betting.
And about collecting the money. I told multiple times I do not care if there is a more 'reputable' person that joins the group to handle the funds. For me its just all about the fun of being part of a group that discusses sports and sport bets and try to make some money

Anyone who is doing this on a professional level would be doing this on their own or in a very closed circle of trusted people. Anything else is probably just based on pure luck and -EV.

Others have already mentioned that your post looks very scam-like and if you really want to do serious things, you have to come up with a way of proving that you won't just take the money and leave forever. For starters, you could provide proofs that you really participated in similar gatherings before. Then you should choose a trusted forum member and ask this person to keep the funds you and those who are willing to join provide for the time being. It would be better if you also provided some ID, so that in case you steal everything, police can know where to find you.
And you are saying you are looking to passionate sport betters. Why aren't you making some elaborate quizz to choose only the smart gamblers? Otherwise you will and up in the situation of ochlocracy, which can't be good for your own money.

As long you arent the one who do handles the money then it should be fine and i would like to ask on give us a reason why a certain sports bettor would join up your group?
It would be more appealing if you do put up some free tips and the community might trust you.

Yea give us something and we'll give back to you for more

You should listen to the advice given to you by the previous posts above me. If you are really serious in doing this without any intention to scam people, take heed and work hard to gain trust in this forum. You should build up your name here and leave a positive impression to many people before asking them to give you their money. As others have said, put some free tips and prove to us that you have what it takes for the "strategy" that you claim is working. Invest time in this forum.

Like I said I am more specialized in Darts. I have been playing on the BDO and PDC circuit myself before I got my first kid. I know a lot of top players personally and I follow the darts circuit very closely.
I am trying to put a group together with bettors specialized in other sports. Like for example a bettor knowing everything about baseball, basketball, tennis. Those sports I know nothing about.

OK thanks for the tip. I will start working on building more trust. I really want to become a trustful person. So from now I will try to list up a spreadsheet of my bets and keep them updated over here.
Hopefully I can gain trust in this way and build a good reputation.

Keeping spreadsheet updated of your bets after game finished wont give much trust. You have to give your bets info here in this forum before match so who ever following or watching your bets will know how much worthy are you. If you take escrow facility in your offer will also be benefit for you as most of them love to play with escrow system. 

Why there's so many people always looking for another persons to their ideas, hey mate your offer is a gambling, I would say to you that no one here will entrusted their asset to your idea, why don't you do it by yourself? why looking for someone's money?

First of all I am not looking for other peoples money. I am just want to create a pool of gamblers that place and discuss bets together.
I can do it by myself. I am almost betting everyday. But I want to create a group with other bettors that are specialized in the sports that I am not familiar with. By playing in group you can gather forces and expand bets to much more different sports.

My picks for today.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zX--t9gPox8DdCUUF2SYaglGnCwkS0_SzW3rdbqngf4/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zX--t9gPox8DdCUUF2SYaglGnCwkS0_SzW3rdbqngf4/edit?usp=sharing)

Lets see if we can hit something today

To be honest jr.member asking for money for ANY REASON looks really shaddy here, there is absolutely no way to know if you are for real or trying to scam and in crypto world until it is proven otherwise you start out at default thinking everyone is out there trying to scam you because it is such an easy way to get money from others and disappear.

Hence, you should definitely try to prove some facts before you start asking for money, no one in their right mind would give you 25-50 dollars if you know what you are doing you should have gotten that much money from gambling yourself anyway, it is really such a small number that asking for it makes it look even more shady.

Dont know how Many Guys of you are gonna keep telling its shady or scam. I clarified couple things already multiple times

#1 I dont care if another member in the group with a higher rank handled the funds.
#2 i told multiple times already that i can and do bet myself.
#3 I only want to start a shared pool with people to be able to bet on more sports. Every gambler has his favourite sports and speciality. Me for example doesnt know shit about basketbal, baseball, cricket, horses.
#4 if i do handle the money all participant would receive a signed agreement. I would be able to verify my id in Many ways (official address, id, registered company number and vat number in belgium, Skype, ....)

I posted a spreadsheet yesterday prior to the games. So that s what i Will do again today. For todays picked i Will also provide screenshot so people can verify i havent changed Any data in between

My Saturday picks

https://i.imgur.com/ctEUaR1.png
https://i.imgur.com/1kN4EJU.png


Results will be updated here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zX--t9gPox8DdCUUF2SYaglGnCwkS0_SzW3rdbqngf4/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zX--t9gPox8DdCUUF2SYaglGnCwkS0_SzW3rdbqngf4/edit?usp=sharing)

Yesterday I hit 7 out of 10

today pick 02/09

https://i.imgur.com/IzMILYh.png
https://i.imgur.com/mCt3lDi.png

Additional darts picks for tonight

https://i.imgur.com/3MQSa0N.png

Semi final bets

https://i.imgur.com/2IWhAmN.png

Check results in following spreadsheet. You will see my win ratio on darts is way higher than on football. Darts is my game.


Results => https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zX--t9gPox8DdCUUF2SYaglGnCwkS0_SzW3rdbqngf4/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zX--t9gPox8DdCUUF2SYaglGnCwkS0_SzW3rdbqngf4/edit?usp=sharing)

As you can see Darts is my speciality. At this moment 27 correct out of 33 picks.


And that why I want to team up with other punters, to combine different sports. I know I can crack Darts picks. But I can't crack football, basketball, tennis, etc

oh I see this thread has turned to tipping thread , can you please add the total profit/loss on your sheet also if you add the ROI that would be good as well
will keep an eye on this thread till you reach 400 picks or more and maybe I will start following after that
I have a thread for the tipsters I follow and you can check it out in case you are looking for something to follow as well
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1800883.msg17941510#msg17941510

Yeah decided to put up Some tips in meantime to Maybe build Some trust for future purposes

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zX--t9gPox8DdCUUF2SYaglGnCwkS0_SzW3rdbqngf4/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zX--t9gPox8DdCUUF2SYaglGnCwkS0_SzW3rdbqngf4/edit?usp=sharing)

have a look at all my previous weekend picks.

As you notice and like I told I am more specialized in Darts. Football is more for fun and I never bet big amounts on football.

I always calculate in units. 1 unit is 2€


Football 98 units played / 40.24 units won => loss 57.76U ( loss 115.53€)    ROI - 58.3%

Darts  205 units played / 232 units won     => profit 27U (profit 54€)        ROI  +13.9%

Have spoken with a friend I bet with couple years ago in Belgium. He is gonna help out with the soccer, tennis and some other sports.
so you can expect more free tips from us in following days and weeks.

Today picks 03/09

https://i.imgur.com/SCBjvCD.png

Do you apply your own method to calculate odds of each game? It takes a lot of knowledge and skill to do this.

no i do not calculate odds myself. I have some software that tracks the best odds for games on different betting sites. Normally this software is used for arbitrage betting as well but I use it to search for the best odds on particular games.
I used to use the software for arbitrage betting but since I moved to Spain I do not have that much choice of different betting providers so are betting isn't that profitable anymore