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Title: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) - Updated Post by: DdmrDdmr on August 30, 2018, 04:14:15 PM Edit: Data updated as of 26/04/2019.
I was asked recently if I had any update on the merit streaks, and the truth is I had not taken a look into it since I created the OP back in August 2018. I’ve now updated the OP in this thread with the current awarded merit streaks, and while being at it, added it to the Merit Dashboard (last tab called "Received Merit Streaks"). On the Merit Dashboard (https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/ReceivedMeritStreaks) you can easily filter by user or section/subsection to see all the received merit streaks. The previous version of the OP can be seen here: https://web.archive.org/web/20190430091758/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4981102.0 Difficult at it seemed at the time, @nullius’s 31 day merit streak (merited days in a row) has been surpassed by 5 new additional streaks, setting the current record at 90 days! (see below). Note: Days are calculated as they are in the Merit.txt file (UTC). 1. Introduction What I have done on this occasion is determine the merit streaks associated to different users. a Merit streak is a number of consecutive days (with no gaps in between) on which the user is awarded with merit. I've had this in mind for some time, but hadn’t gone forth with the idea since calculating the streaks was not as simple as I thought initially. The best streaks are often dated back in the earlier days of the Merit System. When a forum member (or a subsection) has more than one streak with the same number of days, the most recent once is inventoried on the lists shown below. Common column shown are as follows: Rank: Current user rank. Name: Username. UserId: Bitcointalk UserId. From: Initial streak date. Until: Ending streak date. nMerit: Merit involved in the listed streak for the given user. nDays: Duration of the streak in days. nMsg: Number of distinct posts merited in the streak. URL: User URL Note: I also calculated the merit streaks from the senders point of view, but adding them here just made the post too long and I think the receiver streaks are more interesting really. 2. Top 50 Receiver Streaks The following is a list of the top 50 streaks during which forum members have received sMerit (may require horizontal and vertical scroll on some screens): Code: rank Name UserId from until nMerit nDays nMsg URL micgoossens (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1067333) has the longest streak to date, having received sMerit for 90 days in a row, totalling 604 sMerits during that streak. Last of the V8s (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=479624) comes second with a streak of 61 days, followed by suchmoon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234771) with 37 days. All these three top streaks are rather recent, and surpass those established in the early days of the Merit System. Some forum members appear various times on the list with multiple streaks amongst the top 50. LoyceV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459836) for example holds 8 entries in the top 50 merit streaks. Full list of max. streak per user can be seen here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CSonntpRICTBYkLT_8ycIwYCxtKCxbXwBoD8KDkuHPw/edit?usp=sharing 3. Top Receiver Streak per subsection The focus this time is on the larges streak by Subsection (41 subsections, +1 deleted virtual subsection)(may require horizontal and vertical scroll on some screens). Code: section subsection rank Name UserId from until nMerit nDays URL Long streaks per section/subsection are more difficult to obtain. Last of the V8s (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=479624) holds the record here in the Economics subsection (Wall Observer thread essentially), with a 61 day streak. suchmoon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234771) holds the second longest streak, being merited for 30 days in a row on Meta, whilst ICOEthics (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2204241) was awarded merit for 25 days in a row on the Trading Discussion board. There are quite a few streaks of just a few days, nearly all on the Local boards, which goes to show that even the most merited there have difficulties. 4. Merit Dashboard screen The implemented Merit Dashboard screen look like this: https://i.imgur.com/xg0tNAu.png The above shows all my received sMerit streaks: - Top left shows all my global streaks, ordered by the number of days implied. In my case, my to streak is of 27 consecutive days receiving sMerit in a row, between the 24/02/2019 and the 23/03/2019. I obtained 173 merits during that streak. - Top right summarizes the number of occurrences of each merit streak. In my particular case, I have 1 27 day streak, 1 18 day streak, 1 16 day streak, 2 15 day streaks, and so on. - Bottom left shows my streaks by forum section/subsection. The image shows that I've been merited 16 days in a row on Meta between the 12/09/2018 and the 27/07/2018. If I were to scroll down further (or apply section/subsection filters), I would be able to see that my max streak is of 4 days in a row on my Spanish local board (the record goes to @Seoincorporation with 5 there), being also 4 days in a row in Beginners and Help. - The botton right summarizes the number of occurrences of each merit streak of mine (since I’ve filter by my profile) by section/subsection. In Beginners & Help for example, my personal record streak is of 4 days in a row (once), having made 3 days in a row eight times, 2 days in a row on 6 occasions, and single days 26 times. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: cabalism13 on August 30, 2018, 04:41:58 PM Well, nullius has done it already and I think no one will ever break that record unless theymos becomes active on posting relevant threads ;D :P
Even though nullius is already gone for a long period he will stay at the ranks and logs of Merit Analysis. Majority of accounts on these list are known people from Bitcointalk. I wonder when will someone shows and stood up against those ;) Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: Harlot on August 30, 2018, 04:57:35 PM Well, nullius has done it already and I think no one will ever break that record unless theymos becomes active on posting relevant threads ;D :P I don't think that his record is unbreakable, remember LoyceV on fell short of only 4 days which is really near and LoyceV is also very active in the forum currently and to top it off he is also a merit source which means that there is a high chance that the one he has sent the merits to has a certain influence on returning back the favor. I don't know when but I am sure that nullius' record is nowhere untouchable and someone will break it someday.Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: funsponge on August 30, 2018, 04:57:56 PM Would be interesting to combine this data with data from their most merited replies/topics. COuld bring in some insight on why they received so much in a small amount of time. I think a few of these users probably posted a guide of some sort which resulted in them having a lot more merit in quick succession than normal.
Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: Welsh on August 30, 2018, 05:39:28 PM I don't think that his record is unbreakable, remember LoyceV on fell short of only 4 days which is really near and LoyceV is also very active in the forum currently and to top it off he is also a merit source which means that there is a high chance that the one he has sent the merits to has a certain influence on returning back the favor. I don't know when but I am sure that nullius' record is nowhere untouchable and someone will break it someday. Generally, requires a very high quality member for that to happen though, and there aren't too many that are near that standard. Plus, it also depends on how much sMerit users have to distribute at the time. You could get lucky, and a lot of merit sources recently got their sMerit back or you could be completely unlucky, and they have already ran out. There's a little bit of luck required too. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: hilariousetc on August 30, 2018, 05:47:53 PM Interesting info. Thanks for compiling it.
Some forum members appear various times on the list with multiple streaks amongst the top 50. Hilariousetc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=397737) and xtraelv (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897509) were on an on-going streak at the time of data extraction, and really have a +2 days and +1 additional streak length looking over their merit this week. And I've yet to receive a single merit today despite making some quality shit. C'mon, fuckers. Don't make me merit myself from my main account and get negbombed ;D. Seriously though, I think the amount of merit sources or people actually giving merit is actually an issue right now. I don't really care that much about receiving merit personally because it's useless for me as Legendary now (unless additional ranks or badges are awarded for high merited users), though it is nice to know people have read and appreciated your posts, but there's a lot of quality posts I see that just don't get merited at all. I think even decent/great posters will struggle to rank up to levels of Hero and Legendary if this doesn't change, especially those users just signing up. Hopefully theymos will add users more frequently but this is one more issue that will likely be put on the backburner of things to do but never get done. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: Welsh on August 30, 2018, 05:53:29 PM Seriously though, I think the amount of merit sources or people actually giving merit is actually an issue right now. I don't really care that much about receiving merit personally because it's useless for me as Legendary now (unless additional ranks or badges are awarded for high merited users), though it is nice to know people have read and appreciated your posts, but there's a lot of quality posts I see that just don't get merited at all. I think even decent/great posters will struggle to rank up to levels of Hero and Legendary if this doesn't change, especially those users just signing up. Hopefully theymos will add users more frequently but this is one more issue that will likely be put on the backburner of things to do but never get done. Yeah, I've noticed some very good quality posts never receive any merit whatsoever. Its not like they aren't being seen either. There's a few posts in the serious discussion section which I think deserve a few merit. The recent discussion on the tax debate has some interesting replies.Probably a bad example because they have received quite a bit of merit since I last checked, but there's a few other topics, and replies in that section which seem to just be glanced over. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: DdmrDdmr on August 30, 2018, 06:18:25 PM <…> Yes, @nullius will maintain records for quite a while, bearing in mind both the quality of the posts and that there was a merrier merit awarding possibility closer to the beginning of the Merit System kick-off than now. Only recently have a few users surpassed him on total aggregate received sMerits, and months have gone by since he was last active.Even though nullius is already gone for a long period he will stay at the ranks and logs of Merit Analysis. Majority of accounts on these list are known people from Bitcointalk. I wonder when will someone shows and stood up against those ;) I don’t get your second comment… <…> In my mind, there are three of four current candidates that are persistent and merited enough to currently challenge the record. Not easy at all though.Would be interesting to combine this data with data from their most merited replies/topics. COuld bring in some insight on why they received so much in a small amount of time. I think a few of these users probably posted a guide of some sort which resulted in them having a lot more merit in quick succession than normal. I’ve added a column to the first data table with the number of distinct post made by the forum member during the streak period of time. Most of them involve a large amount of posts (even if they may or may not be on the same thread).<…> There’s another dimension to the problem which we’ve talked about around Meta, and that is the amount of merit per TX or per post. Specifically, on local boards the people rank up really slowly there, and many of them get a large part of their merit outside their local board. For example, this weekend I want to update and publish a list of Spanish Local users that have ranked-up. The number is really low (20: 1 now Sr. Member, 2 Full Members and 17 Members). Out of these, 4 or 5 people have received 100% of their merits on the local board, and the rest are cross-board members.Seriously though, I think the amount of merit sources or people actually giving merit is actually an issue right now. I don't really care that much about receiving merit personally because it's useless for me as Legendary now (unless additional ranks or badges are awarded for high merited users), though it is nice to know people have read and appreciated your posts, but there's a lot of quality posts I see that just don't get merited at all. I think even decent/great posters will struggle to rank up to levels of Hero and Legendary if this doesn't change, especially those users just signing up. Hopefully theymos will add users more frequently but this is one more issue that will likely be put on the backburner of things to do but never get done. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on August 30, 2018, 09:25:44 PM Very inpressive work OP, will have to send Merit your way. That really is some in depth analysis.
Wow! Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: Talk merit on August 31, 2018, 07:37:46 AM I've got two streaks in the first list, and no streaks on any of the individual boards. I guess that shows what an erratic personality I have. I should focus on some areas in the Bitcoin Talk forum, but which board is consistently the most stimulating. With all the changes that are going on in the world, politics should provide a constant flow of premium discussions in my opinion. Flying Hellfish has done a tremendous job in sanitising that board,but he needs the support of some of the quality posters here. The threads that get the most replies seem to be the ones one would expect to see in a school debating society. Discussions on international political topics are frequently ignored. The Ivory Tower and serious discussion seem to generate more responses. I think it is a shame, as good local opinion from some of the troubled countries is hard to find.
[edit] That post referred to Jet Cash of course. I didn't realise I was logged in as Talk Merit. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: DdmrDdmr on August 31, 2018, 08:19:00 AM <...> I think it is a shame, as good local opinion from some of the troubled countries is hard to find <...> Politics and Society is an area I’m reading these days quite a bit, and indeed it does seem to be a pretty clean board with potential to grow on international issue discussion. Venezuela’s situation has been commented on some good threads, but now Argentina seems to be suffering quite a bit, with a 31% inter-annual inflation and a 55% depreciation of their national currency (El Peso) against the Dollar. Catalonia (Spain) is slowly building up to social confrontation in what is probably the EUs greatest inner threat (as if it didn’t have enough problems). I tried to explain the latter focusing on society on a post called Spain, Catalonia - The yellow ribbon road to social confrontation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4965362.msg44775476#msg44775476). Politics and Society is also one of the least merited boards (local boards aside), with a running total of 0,53% of total awarded merit (even off-topic doubles those results). Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: hilariousetc on August 31, 2018, 09:33:39 AM Yeah, I've noticed some very good quality posts never receive any merit whatsoever. Its not like they aren't being seen either. There's a few posts in the serious discussion section which I think deserve a few merit. The recent discussion on the tax debate has some interesting replies. Probably a bad example because they have received quite a bit of merit since I last checked, but there's a few other topics, and replies in that section which seem to just be glanced over. I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners. When those users are getting paid as Juniors or whatever rank they automatically have it doesn't really matter to them and there's no real incentive for them to improve. That's why I'm strongly pushing for a merit requirement for users to become Juniors. If we removed their signatures completely then thus would force users to have to get ten merit and become a Member before they could even earn in the first place. I think this will have a huge effect on the quality of posts here as bots and spammers will get no where or not very far without getting the merit in whatever capacity. Yes, @nullius will maintain records for quite a while, bearing in mind both the quality of the posts and that there was a merrier merit awarding possibility closer to the beginning of the Merit System kick-off than now. Only recently have a few users surpassed him on total aggregate received sMerits, and months have gone by since he was last active. I'm sure he will be eclipsed soon, especially as he's MIA now. Though as I mentioned above the lack of people giving merit is an issue. If it wasn't for Welsh giving me some yesterday I would have broken my combo despite writing 9 or so pretty decent lengthy posts (in my opinion). Again, I'm not going to lose sleep over merit as it's largely irrelevant to me now but there are plenty of others possibly even more deserving who will go umerited. Quality users will get there eventually anyway, but 'average' or even above average users will likely struggle. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: Jet Cash on August 31, 2018, 09:46:08 AM I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners. I don't think the first point is the issue. I agree that your second point is a major problem. If more good posts were seen and merited, then that would solve the first issue. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: hilariousetc on August 31, 2018, 10:38:42 AM I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners. I don't think the first point is the issue. I agree that your second point is a major problem. If more good posts were seen and merited, then that would solve the first issue. If you're not a merit source then you can probably run out of them very fast, especially if you're giving out more than one per post. Remember, for those that aren't merit sources you will only have them to give when people actually merit you (which isn't that frequent for most) and then you only have half the amount to 'spend' so it will quickly go and when users don't merit others more than one/two/three at a time often that leaves little merit to send on. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: Hueristic on August 31, 2018, 03:49:11 PM Interesting info. Thanks for compiling it. Some forum members appear various times on the list with multiple streaks amongst the top 50. Hilariousetc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=397737) and xtraelv (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897509) were on an on-going streak at the time of data extraction, and really have a +2 days and +1 additional streak length looking over their merit this week. And I've yet to receive a single merit today despite making some quality shit. C'mon, fuckers. Don't make me merit myself from my main account and get negbombed ;D. Seriously though, I think the amount of merit sources or people actually giving merit is actually an issue right now. I don't really care that much about receiving merit personally because it's useless for me as Legendary now (unless additional ranks or badges are awarded for high merited users), though it is nice to know people have read and appreciated your posts, but there's a lot of quality posts I see that just don't get merited at all. I think even decent/great posters will struggle to rank up to levels of Hero and Legendary if this doesn't change, especially those users just signing up. Hopefully theymos will add users more frequently but this is one more issue that will likely be put on the backburner of things to do but never get done. Contrarian posts in circle jerk threads do not get merited period and those accounts can count on not receiving merits after those posts. But on the bright side dropping memes can make you famous. :) Yeah, I've noticed some very good quality posts never receive any merit whatsoever. Its not like they aren't being seen either. There's a few posts in the serious discussion section which I think deserve a few merit. The recent discussion on the tax debate has some interesting replies. Probably a bad example because they have received quite a bit of merit since I last checked, but there's a few other topics, and replies in that section which seem to just be glanced over. I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners. When those users are getting paid as Juniors or whatever rank they automatically have it doesn't really matter to them and there's no real incentive for them to improve. That's why I'm strongly pushing for a merit requirement for users to become Juniors. If we removed their signatures completely then thus would force users to have to get ten merit and become a Member before they could even earn in the first place. I think this will have a huge effect on the quality of posts here as bots and spammers will get no where or not very far without getting the merit in whatever capacity. ... This and a crackdown on the bounty managers that allow and reward bot accounts. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: Jet Cash on August 31, 2018, 04:16:12 PM If you're not a merit source then you can probably run out of them very fast, especially if you're giving out more than one per post. Remember, for those that aren't merit sources you will only have them to give when people actually merit you (which isn't that frequent for most) and then you only have half the amount to 'spend' so it will quickly go and when users don't merit others more than one/two/three at a time often that leaves little merit to send on. I agree, but my point was that by making it hard for merit sources to find meritable posts, you deprive those who would have received merits of the chance to award them. sMerit awards have half lives as you know, and this means that every sMerit awarded by a merit source adds virtually one more merit for the community to award. It's even worse than that, because if a merit source ends the day with some unawarded sMerits, then the replacement of those is delayed by a day. I've tried to make spammers aware that their activities reduce the number of sMerit available for their associates as well as themselves. However, they don't seem to get the message. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: hilariousetc on September 03, 2018, 12:26:45 PM Combo was broken yesterday >:(
Merit ruins lives :'(. Contrarian posts in circle jerk threads do not get merited period and those accounts can count on not receiving merits after those posts. But on the bright side dropping memes can make you famous. :) Not necessarily. I've given a few merits out to people who I didn't agree with, but they've certainly made the effort or put their point across articulately. I agree that people tend to give them more to posts they agree with or 'like' but there's nothing we can do abut that other than try urge users to give posts for effort rather than you just agreeing with them or liking their point. And memes can be both funny and constructive. At least they lighten this place up a bit. I'd much rather merit a meme that a one-liner (especially if they've actually edited/customised the meme to be relevant). Yeah, I've noticed some very good quality posts never receive any merit whatsoever. Its not like they aren't being seen either. There's a few posts in the serious discussion section which I think deserve a few merit. The recent discussion on the tax debate has some interesting replies. Probably a bad example because they have received quite a bit of merit since I last checked, but there's a few other topics, and replies in that section which seem to just be glanced over. I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners. When those users are getting paid as Juniors or whatever rank they automatically have it doesn't really matter to them and there's no real incentive for them to improve. That's why I'm strongly pushing for a merit requirement for users to become Juniors. If we removed their signatures completely then thus would force users to have to get ten merit and become a Member before they could even earn in the first place. I think this will have a huge effect on the quality of posts here as bots and spammers will get no where or not very far without getting the merit in whatever capacity. This and a crackdown on the bounty managers that allow and reward bot accounts. Yeah. Neither of these things require much effort from theymos, he just needs to actually implment them and let staff handle the rest. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: Kate Beckett on September 03, 2018, 01:34:49 PM I agree that people tend to give them more to posts they agree with or 'like' but there's nothing we can do abut that other than try urge users to give posts for effort rather than you just agreeing with them or liking their point. I believe that the meaning of merit is different from a simple like. Merit is deserved not by the post with which we agree, but by one in which the author consistently and reasonably expresses his point of view. You can agree with him, or you may not. But in any case, it isn`t just an attempt to write a constructive and useful commentary that deserve merit, but an intelligible and precise report of someone`s point of view. It is through argumentative statements between participants that a discussion can begin. Even if their views don`t coincide, but they explain them and prove, with respect to the contrary opinion and listening to the arguments of the oponents, the forum members will certainly discover something new. As we know, in a dispute, truth is born. And merit is worth giving to those who help to approach it, and not just those with whom we agree. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: LoyceV on September 03, 2018, 02:03:02 PM Nullius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976210) has the longest streak to date, having received sMerit for 31 days in a row, totalling 518 sMerits during that streak. LoyceV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459836) falls short by only 4 days, having a streak of 27 days And there I was, thinking I overtook nullius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topusersat) on Merit (even though it took me more than twice as long). It turns out he found a way to be on top again without even logging in!Quote All these three top streaks were achieved during the early days of the Merit System. All jokes aside, nice list! I recognize most usernames in the top 50; the subsection top has mainly unknown names.It's very time consuming to continuously produce high quality posts, and even when you do you won't receive Merit every day. That does explain why the longest streaks were close to the introduction of Merit, when more users had more sMerit to give. Quote Nevertheless, the Member segment does not follow the trend, as it outperforms the ranks above it by having noticeably more streaks of 2 days in a row as the maximum streak for its segment. Could this be due to merit trading? Say someone buys 10 Merit to become Member, and receives them on a few different days to avoid detection? To test this hypothesis: can you add a line to the table (number 4.) for Members who received exactly 10, 11 or 12 Merit?I would expect this new category to have more streaks, and the remaining Members will have less streaks. Majority of accounts on these list are known people from Bitcointalk. I wonder when will someone shows and stood up against those ;) You make it sound as if it's a bad thing to be on this list. I wish much more people would stand up to join this list, because that means this forum is getting better.I don't think that his record is unbreakable, remember LoyceV on fell short of only 4 days which is really near and LoyceV is also very active in the forum currently Thanks for the confidence, but it's unlikely to happen. My second longest streak was in August, and reached only 15 days. I don't think it's very likely to reach 27 again, let alone 31. Unless the total Merit distribution and thus the chance of each post to receive Merit goes up significantly.Quote he is also a merit source which means that there is a high chance that the one he has sent the merits to has a certain influence on returning back the favor. I think (and hope) this doesn't happens often. Most of the time I give 1 Merit only, and 0.5 sMerit isn't enough to be returned.By this logic, suchmoon should be the most merited person, as he's distributed 6 times more Merit than I did. C'mon, fuckers. Don't make me merit myself from my main account and get negbombed ;D. I'm confused, are you merit begging your Global Moderator alt? Lol :DI've given a few merits out to people who I didn't agree with, but they've certainly made the effort or put their point across articulately. On rare occasions, I didn't give Merit to posts that are worth reading, out of fear of that being interpreted as me endorsing the user.This list can easily be gamed: I see a possibility to put satoshi on top, all I need to do is send him 1 Merit for one of his posts for the next 32 days :D Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: Silent26 on September 03, 2018, 02:40:11 PM I'm about to merit the thread but when I'm in the "Merit a post" page I realised that I don't have any sMerits left, will reserve one of my future sMerit for this thread.
Back to the discussion, You make it sound as if it's a bad thing to be on this list. I wish much more people would stand up to join this list, because that means this forum is getting better. Well, I guess it's too difficult to be one of these members who were listed but it's worth a try to do everything just to be included. Hmm but no luck for me to be one. I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners. Quote If you're not a merit source then you can probably run out of them very fast, especially if you're giving out more than one per post. Remember, Agree, since I have limited sMerits to give, I think it's just fine to give/distribute merit one per posts. It's still worth it. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: DdmrDdmr on September 03, 2018, 04:02:07 PM <…> And there I was, thinking I overtook nullius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topusersat) on Merit (even though it took me more than twice as long). It turns out he found a way to be on top again without even logging in! <…> @nullius gained 12 sMerits during August, so even now the user account is still being merited. @satoshi gained 80 sMerits during the same period of time, so there’s probably another (deserved) record: max. merits received during August without logging in…Quote <…> Could this be due to merit trading? Say someone buys 10 Merit to become Member, and receives them on a few different days to avoid detection? To test this hypothesis: can you add a line to the table (number 4.) for Members who received exactly 10, 11 or 12 Merit? <…> The thing is that streaks only consider consecutive days, and I’m only displaying the Max. Streak (which is a partial view of all the user’s received sMerits). The more elaborate cases would do it over different days I guess, and non-consecutive while being at it. I do suspect the Members rank has a fair share of Merit abuse/purchase though, since the number of merits is the lowest requirement of all mid-high ranks.The following list is derived from the Table number 4’s underlying data: Code: ndays nmerit nUsers What does stand out is the following: - Most 1 day streaks involve 1 or 2 merits, decreasing progressively the number of people that get a larger sum of merits (logical). - Nevertheless, for the 1 day streak, the peak at 10 merits (559 people) is noticeable in comparison to the 9 merits (34 people), 11 merits (18 people) and 12 merits (19 people). - This happens again with those that received 10 sMerits on a 2 day streak (compared to 9 and 11 merits, although less noticeable. Quote This list can easily be gamed: I see a possibility to put satoshi on top, all I need to do is send him 1 Merit for one of his posts for the next 32 days :D True, but you wouldn’t really consider it unless you were aware of the existence of streak records … I guess the OP lists are the purest we can get, without any awareness of the streak records. They’re there basically for fun, as a curiosity, but they do show how it does get increasingly more difficult for people to being merited various days in a row. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: Hueristic on September 05, 2018, 10:10:36 PM I agree that people tend to give them more to posts they agree with or 'like' but there's nothing we can do abut that other than try urge users to give posts for effort rather than you just agreeing with them or liking their point. I believe that the meaning of merit is different from a simple like. Merit is deserved not by the post with which we agree, but by one in which the author consistently and reasonably expresses his point of view. You can agree with him, or you may not. But in any case, it isn`t just an attempt to write a constructive and useful commentary that deserve merit, but an intelligible and precise report of someone`s point of view. It is through argumentative statements between participants that a discussion can begin. Even if their views don`t coincide, but they explain them and prove, with respect to the contrary opinion and listening to the arguments of the oponents, the forum members will certainly discover something new. As we know, in a dispute, truth is born. And merit is worth giving to those who help to approach it, and not just those with whom we agree. Precisely, stating a premise and forming an argument to support that is the basis of critical thinking. I've given a few merits out to people who I didn't agree with, but they've certainly made the effort or put their point across articulately. On rare occasions, I didn't give Merit to posts that are worth reading, out of fear of that being interpreted as me endorsing the user.That can be a conundrum. I'm about to merit the thread but when I'm in the "Merit a post" page I realised that I don't have any sMerits left, will reserve one of my future sMerit for this thread. There needs to be a small amount distributed to the leveled accounts each month just to have a few available for outstanding posts. I have tried to spend Mine wisely And I am now under 10. I need to PM Maxwell and tell him to send some back! Lol, I felt his account was sorely unappreciated in the merit Dept. :) Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: examplens on September 05, 2018, 10:17:47 PM Whether there are statistics in which forum board categories, users receive the most of merit points?
somehow it seems to me that it is mostly given in the meta section. It's very hard to find merited posts in other section. I exclude these from the local board. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: DdmrDdmr on September 06, 2018, 09:34:21 AM Whether there are statistics in which forum board categories, users receive the most of merit points? You can take a look at the Merit Dashboard (https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/GlobalSummary). Specifically, you can focus on:somehow it seems to me that it is mostly given in the meta section. It's very hard to find merited posts in other section. I exclude these from the local board. a) The tab labelled “Section Subsection”: The graphic on the right gives you the merit awarded by subsection both numerically and as a percentage of the total awarded merit. By default, the data shown covers all time since Merit System kick-off, so you may want to concentrate on a specific month since percentage distribution to subsections varies overtime. For example, Ann Altcoin is the most merited subsection (26.437 sMerits, which is 12,23% of all awarded sMerits). Nevertheless, if you narrow it down to August 2018 (with the dropdown box on the right of the screen), Ann Altcoin goes down to 7,17% of total awarded sMerit for the month. That section is on the drop, as there is so much spam there that I figure ordinary merit is not too high and Merit Sources do not sway there often, being it difficult to find anything good amongst all the spam. Meta on the other hand has risen it’s share over time (most merited during August with a 13,41% share, but a 9,51% overall). Meta is certainly not the only merited section, but it is likely the most spam-free of all, with rather decent conversations going. If you don’t want to read spam all day long, Meta and Bitcoin technical sections are the cleanest from a spam point of view I’d say. b) The “Rankings” tab: This may be interesting to see, as you can get an idea of which are the top merited threads here (third data set block columns). You can filter the data to a specific date range with the slider on the Date Filter at the top (or click the dates on the extremes of the slider and enter them there). Again, by default we see the most merited since Merit System started, but applying the date filter changes the view quite a bit. Wall Observer thread is an ecosystem of its own, and is always at the top of the list (it is also behind on its own of the majority of sMerit in the Economics subsection). ‘Deleted’ are cases of merit assigned to posts that are later deleted for multiple reasons, and add-up to a fair share. You can also filter by subsection at the top of this tab, to narrow down the data to a specific forum subsection. Note: I created a post on the matter in May 2018 ( Forum Metrics - Section/subsection sMerit breakdown in detail (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3531472.msg36287248#msg36287248)), but as I said, the distribution of sMerit per subsection evolves over time, so the Dashboard allows us to have a view that we can follow dynamically with weekly updates). Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: arthur305 on September 26, 2018, 01:29:22 PM Whether there are statistics in which forum board categories, users receive the most of merit points? I have made a lot of post basically in the altcoins section while bounty hunting. I will definitely go try the meta section you just recommended hopefully I get some merits there.somehow it seems to me that it is mostly given in the meta section. It's very hard to find merited posts in other section. I exclude these from the local board. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: DdmrDdmr on September 26, 2018, 01:35:23 PM <...>I have made a lot of post basically in the altcoins section while bounty hunting. I will definitely go try the meta section you just recommended hopefully I get some merits there. That is not the best choice of words as a presentation card on Meta. I’d suggest you read through Meta for some days before pulling the trigger on the keyboard...Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: TMAN on September 26, 2018, 01:41:59 PM ~snip dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: arthur305 on September 26, 2018, 02:31:10 PM ~snip dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: TMAN on September 26, 2018, 02:36:17 PM ~snip dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules. you post a lot, but don't read much - read twice as much as you write fella. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) Post by: KocaEfe on September 26, 2018, 07:12:58 PM ~snip dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules. you post a lot, but don't read much - read twice as much as you write fella. Unfortunately, this is a big problem for many Newbie and Jr.M. they come to the forum only for one purpose, to make money. And they don't understand why it need SMerit. Many people do not understand the obvious ethical norms. Not only on this forum, on any other forum the same rules, there is ethics and respect for others. There is such a thing as authority. Here, for example, DdmrDdmr has crazy authority among the members of this forum (in my eyes exactly). He really does a great job of improving the merit system. He is one of the few who pursues the goal of not money and not earning on ICO in bounty companies. It aims to help other participants. That is precisely the merit. Merit is the authority on the forum. And beginners don't understand it, unfortunately. P.s.Sorry I didn't name another participant, I just gave an example, in the context of the conversation. Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) - Updated Post by: DdmrDdmr on April 30, 2019, 10:34:14 AM Edit: Data updated as of 26/04/2019.
I was asked recently if I had any update on the merit streaks, and the truth is I had not taken a look into it since I created the OP back in August 2018. I’ve now updated the OP in this thread with the current awarded merit streaks, and while being at it, added it to the Merit Dashboard (last tab called "Received Merit Streaks"). On the Merit Dashboard (https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/ReceivedMeritStreaks) you can easily filter by user or section/subsection to see all the received merit streaks. Difficult at it seemed at the time, @nullius’s 31 day merit streak (merited days in a row) has been surpassed by 5 new additional streaks, setting the current record at 90 days! (see below). Who holds that record now? (see the OP). Title: Re: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) - Updated Post by: LoyceV on April 30, 2019, 10:44:29 AM Difficult at it seemed at the time, @nullius’s 31 day merit streak (merited days in a row) has been surpassed by 5 new additional streaks, setting the current record at 90 days! (see below). Not bad, I'm taking spots #4 and #5. The first 2 are Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.0) regulars, I can't beat those :P |
