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To date, the economic situation in many countries is in critical condition. Can the next financial and economic crisis be a transition to global use  of crypto currency in international settlements?

It's an interesting thought for sure.

I've personally always thought that some sort of global financial crisis could be helpful in terms of getting people to adopt bitcoin. Especially one that has inflationary consequences, with rapidly increasing prices and CPI overall.

For example, just look at individual cases like Venezuela and Turkey, where bitcoin is definitely helping individuals to store their wealth away from their fiat currency, and thus leading to more adopters. This could happen under a global scale as well. Whether or not this actually evolves into a global payment network is another, but increased adoption of bitcoin as a store of value internationally is definitely possible under these circumstances.

Well, it all depends on the country. If a country really does depend on the global trade then if you are among this people then you can just make crypto as the transition for you to transfer your savings into it.

Crypto currency doesn’t add up value to the national treasure yet and if it has to then it will need to be utilised on larger scales within the national and international trades. In reality we are just using the dollar values and much more to denote the value to crypto based on how much money has been placed into that particular project or coin. There is no contribution of crypot yet intot the real world. I believe that during the financial crisis such asset or crypto coins won’t be that much helpful to recover it.

Bitcoin will only help the individual economy, maybe Bitcoin can help a country's economy if the government requires taxes for traders.

The situation with local fiat money (inflation) will be worse not only in Venezuela and Turkey but also in all developing countries. So it will definitely bring some part of the population from these countries to crypto market.

I think we're getting close to the next financial crisis. Germany recently proposed the creation of a new global financial system without having the US in control of it, all of this due the political crisis between US and Iran. This system could potentially trigger a devaluation in the US dollar, and I could see Bitcoin being the winner in the whole situtation.

People will simply start looking for a way to store their wealth, and Bitcoin can offer that. This could make the Bitcoin adoption grow exponentially among the general public thus making the price skyrocket in no time. This alternative to the US dollar could also appeal to investors making them pour more capital into the crypto ecosystem.

I am not sure I understand what you mean. Are you saying that crytos will be the global crisis, or is it that they will help to overcome it? If people keep trading cryptos for the sake of trading and only focus on quick profits, the prices will get more and more manipulated by some half-fake news and this might indeed form the bubbles and eventually lead to their explosions. But the bearish market of our times is helping to circle out this option, because people get to realize which prices they truly believe in. If the market doesn't skyrocket, crisis cannot occur. And deflation cryptos can surely save the world when dollar finally collapses.

When you already thinks about this, I suggested you start to buy land and make food for yourself and your entire family. When you still needs to buy something to your consumption, the economic crisis is your dead end.

Specifically, the global economic crisis also caused a slowdown in trade growth. When bitcoin comes in, there are a number of things that make the world economy increase.

May be not because the crypto currencies are at the point where neither single government is agreeing on the acceptance of crypto as legal tender and nor they are trying to regulate it by any means. I guess this is the biggest problem in the crypto space and real world where two things are not meeting up at point of event where they will help reduce the economic crisis of the world. They should have a proper protocol which will make this trade happen in right way. We dont even have proper infrastructure where this trading can be done within two internationally parties. The fiat currency is the only option and it has to be done by increasing internal and external import-export.

Its really hard to ignore and this is discussion a whole lot of countries are avoiding to have which I believe they will eventually. The reason is simple, virtually every economy in the world is facing one challenge or the other and even the ones that looks like they are on top of the situation and able to manage their economic deficiencies to the envy of other countries are swimming in series of debt with domestic pressure coming from all angle which is why it seems what the economic administrators are only applying "Trial and Error" approach.

To transition to crypto would not be an easy task which I don't see it happening anytime soon not in the next decades at that but the countries that would benefit from it are the ones that have started early like Japan, South Korea and the likes while others are having their discussion under the radar, some other have decided the best route to go is to ban. They will blame themselves for not starting early.

What exactly are you expecting switching cryptocurrencies will solve a economic crisis? From what I know a economic crisis or a global recession happens naturally and is like a reset for the market, nothing can solve it but it will fix on its own. We may see that several marjets are down due to people loquidating their assets in the need for money but the truth is switching ti cryptocurrencies now won't really change or do a positive thing for what is happening right now.

Yes, you are right, especially in some countries they do not legalize the use of crypto, of course it is very sad, I think it depends on the government in their country if their government legalizes the use of crypto, it must be taxed, so the use of crypto is based on the legal government, so using crypto is everywhere.

I think the economic crisis is coming regardless of the situation with cryptocurrencies, the system is becoming simply too unstable to keep going, if cryptocurrencies did not exist I'm sure that we will see a major shift to gold and silver but now thanks to this new market that transition will include cryptocurrencies especially bitcoin, which is great because gold and bitcoin complement each other, we could use gold and silver as cash and bitcoin as an online system of payments.

apparently not, because the economic crisis has an impact on economic development in developing countries whose impact on developing countries is negative. should be when the international economy is stable then there is the time for crypto to be able to engage

With many economies failing and banks unable to offer financial solutions, people are beginning to see the value of Cryptocurrency and are adopting it. Global crisis will drive crypto adoption certainly

No, you are wrong because there are no objective reasons for that. In fact there are several countries which are close to the default as far as I know it is Venezuela, India, Turkey, Pakistan as well as the current world financial situation may say "cry to us about the next financial crisis" but I cannot figure out why do you consider that crypto currencies will substitute national currencies? In my opinion I consider that in the period of the next crisis currencies of developing countries will be weak but the major currencies (like dollar, euro, yen and some other) will be quite strong because investors usually use them as a refuge. What about crypto currencies, their liquidity and capitalization is ridiculous small to use them as a refuge for a big capital. Crypto currencies will likely grow but they are not going to substitute any national currencies in the near future. 

I again think that when the economy is tough, it is the opportunity for the cryptocurrency market to grow because then investors will need a channel of investment to secure the security of their assets. You can see when there is political uncertainty is Bitcoin price increases, which is a testament.

It is probably yes.
The global economic crisis happens not only now, it also happened in the recent decade and it could be solved. While the economic crisis is happening, it is a opportunity for crypto to spread wide the existence and prove the system which offers simplicity and huge money industry inside. It is time for crypto to grow and solve the economic crisis.

I think so, because perhaps the transition to the world of cryptocurrencies seems to be something that is already being planned in the highest spheres and a crisis can trigger a massive use.

some countries have their own way of solving the problem of the economic crisis, such as Venezuela which replaces the bolivar with a new currency by removing several zero digits in its currency. But cryptocureency can be a good breakthrough for the global crisis that is happening.

I do not have an economic education, but I understand that all the processes taking place in the world economy go according to a preplanned plan. This plan was carefully thought out by very intelligent people. There are no politically and economically independent countries. All the countries of the planet Earth are under control.

I think it will always depend of the country if they will consider the use of Crypto as a solution to their economic crisis as currently most of the poor and weak countries declared Bitcoin and Crypto currencies as illegal to use which means they will not consider Bitcoin as a benefit but a more threat to their economy.

It could. We've seen previously in difficult financial times that people revert to storing their wealth in gold and silver.

With bitcoin somewhat mainstream now, or at least being known internationally to some degree, I think that it will take over a lot of the roles which precious metals used to play in terms of being a store of value within economic crises.

And when people have a dysfunctional fiat currency, they will obviously seek an alternative, which I think will force a lot of people into looking at bitcoin as a viable one. After the crisis though, it's debatable that they wall continue to use bitcoin, even though adoption technically has increased.

Why not, crypto currencies may be able to withstand the upcoming crisis as long as government permits the use of it in such harsh conditions. For now we dont know whether this is possible or not because on the practical front crypto currencies are already banned in many countries and most of the countries are using it but they have not approved it as legal tender. Obviously if thats the case then there is no way that it will even help out the economic situation in proper ways. For it to accomodate those problems, it will need to be regulated first. And how will it help? Well it may just become the store value for it and thus unlike gold and silver may become point of storage for the valuable stuff.

This is entirely true but I think it is going to happen in two phases, at first people are going to try to buy gold and silver to protect themselves since that is something that they have done for a long time, but then the governments are going to tax any profits that people get out of their investments in gold and silver and will even try to confiscate it, at that point people will realize that they need something that cannot be easily confiscated and tracked like gold and silver and that is when they will begin to adopt bitcoin.

That could be a possibility.

Gold and silver seems to be the accepted standard of storing value in the long term in many countries still, and it's logical to think that people will resort to silver and gold due to their cultural significance.

Confiscation could be a potential policy. However, I don't think that's the main reason why people would transition to using bitcoin and other decentralised cryptos in an economic crisis, from the traditional store of values and hedges against fiat in gold and silver.

The most important benefit that bitcoin has over gold and silver in the case of a hyperinflationary crisis is that it is divisible, it is convenient, which is unlike gold which can't be used as a currency conveniently in times like these due to its inconvenience to transact with. Bitcoin on the other hand, you don't have to worry about counterfeit bars, purity, or weight, which would be the last of your worries when it comes to a full on global financial crisis like you suggest.

The next crisis is sure to happen. I'm 100% positive that we'll face it in the next 20 years, although there can be other events that create similar turmoil and reset the economy. To name a few, a world war or a global cataclysm can play the role of substitutes. The previous economic collapse was saved by money printing and cheap credit aimed to make people feel more wealthy and push them to start their own companies and basically start living on credit. This resulted in huge debt that nobody can pay and put us on borrowed time. Will crypto rise from the ashes? Hard to say, but it will at least in the beginning be seen as a safe store of value. The problem is that during a crisis your gold bars under the bed won't mean much. They won't magically turn to food. 

I do not think so, this economic crisis suffer by several countries because of US President policy about commodity things. Be sides He increase the taxation of import commodity, US government also limits or bounder the number of imports. And this trade war has been happening for a long time. We know US Dollar is the strongest currency of course it has huge and big impact when this authority created and launched a policy.

However, it is an opportunity and challenge for Crypto to spread and explore the existence while this economic crisis happening. Crypto should prove that it can solve and utilize the world currency, hopefully become a good solution for this problem.

Some people says it is possible, no one really knows what lies ahead. Economic inflation is here and there, there are many countries that are suffering and having a hard time to regain it's lost. IF ever it may happens, when government thinks that they should go with the flow. Making new currency that same as their fiat- crypto currency that is centralized, well it will lead to a hard blow to crypto currencies that is decentralized. Masses will choose the safer investments I guess.

you're right, the country can move it to cryptocurrency but I think it's dangerous for the economy because I think cryptocurrency prices can change at any time (fluctuations)

yes, that can be an alternative. for countries that are in crisis and their currencies are experiencing massive inflation, bitcoin is actually considered more stable.

It is very likely that a financial crisis will have a strong impact on the adoption of crypto currencies and you can see this happening already with the countries you mentioned...in Turkey the decline of the lira has caused people fleeing onto different assets and crypto currency is one of areas that are spiking in volume. Have a look at the article below and you you get a taste for what is coming.

https://www.coindesk.com/turkey-crypto-exchanges-bitcoin-lira/

but if government start legalize cryptocurrency, there were much support come to market such as from finance firm or maybe future trade.they would make policy that waited by investors.

You are right about investing in strong fiat currencies (USD, EUR, etc), but the government of a country that is close to default can impose severe restrictions for exchanging them with the local fiat currency and vice versa. Thus crypto currencies can have an opportunity to be an international reserve asset in the crisis times for ordinary individuals.

I guess that the probable world economical crisis can affect the crypto currency world, but it will be an alternative transactional payment system.

perhaps with the high value of the dollar lately it has caused a global crisis but the impact on bitcoin I think will increase rapidly because some countries are no longer dependent on the USD.
then the option might be bitcoin is one of the best places to save money.

We imagine that the economic crisis might be a new road to crypto if it happens to the rupiah ... I don't think that happened.

Looking at the example of a Venezuelan country experiencing hyperinflation, the best step that can be taken is not to depend on the economy of a country with one currency, because it can be fatal and very easily suppressed by one of the big countries, then one of the best choices by switching to crypto currency , which cannot be suppressed by any country, the greatest possibility in the future there will be a single currency in the world, and bitcoin has the potential to become that currency.

We know that big money uses the major fiat currencies as a way to protect themselves in times of uncertainty, however it is likely that the next crisis is going to involve precisely those fiat currencies, just look at the huge debt that the government of the United States has and that is going to be impossible to pay, at some point people will recognize that the US dollar simply should not buy as much stuff anymore and that is when an opportunity is going to appear for alternative currencies like precious metals and cryptocurrencies.

What exactly are you expecting switching cryptocurrencies will solve a economic crisis? From what I know a economic crisis or a global recession happens naturally and is like a reset for the market, nothing can solve it but it will fix on its own. We may see that several marjets are down due to people loquidating their assets in the need for money but the truth is switching ti cryptocurrencies now won't really change or do a positive thing for what is happening right now.

I do want to agree with you in line with this that when the cryptocurrency market wakes up again not only to restoration but with a purpose of bringing in the adaption of the various altcoins; into their full purposes/functions.

We know that economic crises happens from time to time but what people are predicting is that we are going to see a crisis that is going to be unlike any other, it is going to be a crisis that threatens all the system and if that indeed becomes true, then the next crisis is going to be big enough to threaten and even destroy the current economic system and if you think that is impossible the last time this happened was in the seventies so it was not that long ago.

I think it's too early for us to talk about the global transition of the entire financial world to the crypto currency.
Still a lot of issues need to be solved with the security of the crypto currency so that the countries seriously think about using bitcoin.

maybe it could also happen, but I personally crypto sector will not experience or be affected by the economic crisis because crypto has a different system from the world economy now