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Title: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: demkd on October 27, 2011, 11:31:47 AM
Today I lost 2 transaction with last beta client, what a...??
Pools have same trouble, coins just vanished in the air.
"Most secure" my ass... I really pissed off.  >:(


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: Spacy on October 27, 2011, 12:00:22 PM
More than likely not lost but accidentally flagged as invalid by one of the Trusted Nodes. I would contact RS at realsolid@solidcoin.info

He should be able to release your transactions.

What a bullshit, the beta client has still some bugs which will be fixed for the stable version. You can just clean your wallet and you are fine.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: demkd on October 27, 2011, 12:14:13 PM
contact RS at realsolid@solidcoin.info
Thanks. I try to contact RS.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: Spacy on October 27, 2011, 12:30:36 PM
I agree with you for once Spacy! It's total bullshit but every once in awhile the Trusted Nodes revoke a transaction in error as it really wasn't on the deny list. Coinhunter can fix it if contacts him.

Transactions don't get through from time to time, this is a problem which also Bitcoin has, maybe RS can fix this in SC2 once for all... This hasn't to do anything with the trusted nodes or with something RS can do. Maybe you should get a real life instead of spreading lies all the time...


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: demkd on October 27, 2011, 12:43:01 PM
Transactions don't get through from time to time
Wow, but how about "most secure" part. Is it a lie? Today I lost small amount of coins, but I don't like it and stoped mining sc to prevent fruther loss.
I send a message to RS. Well, I curious about he (if) will reply.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: demkd on October 27, 2011, 12:53:56 PM
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Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: Spacy on October 27, 2011, 12:55:02 PM
Transactions don't get through from time to time
Wow, but how about "most secure" part. Is it a lie? Today I lost small amount of coins, but I don't like it and stoped mining sc to prevent fruther loss.
I send a message to RS. Well, I curious about he (if) will reply.

"Most secure" means regarding things like 51% attack. Why have you lost coins? If you have an invalid transaction in your wallet, you can clean it and you will see your coins again, nothing is lost.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: demkd on October 27, 2011, 01:08:25 PM
Why have you lost coins?
I REALLY want to know.

If you have an invalid transaction in your wallet, you can clean it and you will see your coins again, nothing is lost.
Nope it's coins sended from pool
mine-for.us. Some coins reach destination and 2 transaction lost.
I known what a s24, btc-e, squidnet has issure with withdrawing sc too.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: BitcoinPorn on October 27, 2011, 01:11:34 PM
he usually responds. Man sorry this happening to you.

This morning, somebody switched BitcoinEXpress' normal cocaine filled Starbucks with 7-11 brand decaf, let's see if he notices


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: Spacy on October 27, 2011, 01:13:16 PM
Nope it's coins sended from pool
mine-for.us. Some coins reach destination and 2 transaction lost.
I known what a s24, btc-e, squidnet has issure with withdrawing sc too.

Then check blockexplorer and contact the pool. If you know they have issues, why don't you talk to them directly?


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: demkd on October 27, 2011, 01:25:53 PM
If you know they have issues, why don't you talk to them directly?
I'm not, they used b7 version client, then transaction send, it's global problem.
Anyone know contact address of mine-for.us? There are no contact information on website.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: demkd on October 27, 2011, 01:35:42 PM
Wow that's a really shitty pool, I would find one that had a contact method.
I know, but it's only one pool what not locked withdraw today. And I can drop mined shitty sc by very very good price.  ;D


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: terrytibbs on October 27, 2011, 01:40:49 PM
Wow that's a really shitty pool, I would find one that had a contact method.
I know, but it's only one pool what not locked withdraw today. And I can drop mined shitty sc by very very good price.  ;D
Locked withdrawals, brought to you by RealSolid!

Paid for by RealSolid for America.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: demkd on October 27, 2011, 02:03:36 PM
Locked withdrawals, brought to you by RealSolid!
It's obvious fact. Strange and shitty client, not working transactions... SC will drop in price by 4-5 times by 5 next days like a GG/TBX/LTC and finally die. But... it still profitable now.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: makomk on October 27, 2011, 02:25:29 PM
Nope it's coins sended from pool
mine-for.us. Some coins reach destination and 2 transaction lost.
I known what a s24, btc-e, squidnet has issure with withdrawing sc too.
Yeah, RealSolid somehow managed to break withdrawals for all pools and the attentive ones disabled them. Not sure how he managed this. Retroactively invalidating a few of their generates in the process of invalidating all ArtForz's would probably have this effect, but I don't think he'd be quite that stupid.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: Spacy on October 27, 2011, 03:18:33 PM
SC will drop in price by 4-5 times by 5 next days like a GG/TBX/LTC and finally die. But... it still profitable now.

We will quote this in 5 days  ;D


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: johnj on October 27, 2011, 03:24:19 PM
he usually responds. Man sorry this happening to you.

This morning, somebody switched BitcoinEXpress' normal cocaine filled Starbucks with 7-11 brand decaf, let's see if he notices

Bwuahaha, starting the day out with a laugh was nice.  Thanks!


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on October 27, 2011, 04:04:07 PM
Say someone had a million SC and complete control of SC source code.  Say this person knows SC is dead.  He could implement a "bug" which locks all the wallets and then use that vacuum to sell off his SC for higher price by reducing competition.

I find is interesting/sad that people would be willing to run closed source anonymous financial software.  Some ScamCoin supporter please don't make a claim to traditional banking.  If Bank Of America steals my money I have legal rights.  They are a known entity.  I can sue them in court.  They have assets, assets they hopefully don't want to lose.

ScamCoin is backed up by no assets, no legal rights, no ability for recourse or compensation.  It is completely opaque software/network.  You simply must trust that the person in complete control never does anything wrong (either intentionally or accidentally).  That level of trust is interesting, mass suicide pack interesting.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: Spacy on October 27, 2011, 05:04:05 PM
Bingo, it's not a bug and locking the wallets is what he did to me two days after launch.

What did he do to you? Locking your wallet? Any proof? No?


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: localhost on October 27, 2011, 06:09:23 PM
I find is interesting/sad that people would be willing to run closed source anonymous financial software.  Some ScamCoin supporter please don't make a claim to traditional banking.  If Bank Of America steals my money I have legal rights.  They are a known entity.  I can sue them in court.  They have assets, assets they hopefully don't want to lose.

ScamCoin is backed up by no assets, no legal rights, no ability for recourse or compensation.  It is completely opaque software/network.  You simply must trust that the person in complete control never does anything wrong (either intentionally or accidentally).  That level of trust is interesting, mass suicide pack interesting.
It's all the more interesting since probably all/most TaxCoin users come from Bitcoin... How could they forget that much the reasons why they started using BTC in the first place? Alzheimer already? Just willing to go back to Paypal? (but then why not just use Paypal? It's much cheaper) Fascinating indeed.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: johnj on October 27, 2011, 06:11:53 PM
I find is interesting/sad that people would be willing to run closed source anonymous financial software.  Some ScamCoin supporter please don't make a claim to traditional banking.  If Bank Of America steals my money I have legal rights.  They are a known entity.  I can sue them in court.  They have assets, assets they hopefully don't want to lose.

ScamCoin is backed up by no assets, no legal rights, no ability for recourse or compensation.  It is completely opaque software/network.  You simply must trust that the person in complete control never does anything wrong (either intentionally or accidentally).  That level of trust is interesting, mass suicide pack interesting.
It's all the more interesting since probably all/most TaxCoin users come from Bitcoin... How could they forget that much the reasons why they started using BTC in the first place? Alzheimer already? Just willing to go back to Paypal? (but then why not just use Paypal? It's much cheaper) Fascinating indeed.

I disagree that most SC users are former BTC users - in fact I'm willing to bet they're all new to cryptocurrency and simply just don't know better.  Except for the dozen or so that were paid 1m+ SC from the premine.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: Bobnova on October 27, 2011, 11:54:22 PM
It's all the more interesting since probably all/most TaxCoin users come from Bitcoin... How could they forget that much the reasons why they started using BTC in the first place? Alzheimer already? Just willing to go back to Paypal? (but then why not just use Paypal? It's much cheaper) Fascinating indeed.

The vast majority of bitcoin people got into bitcoin because they can make USD mining bitcoins, they don't give a rats ass about it's "security", or anything else.
Same deal with SC, it's profitable, people mine it.  If it becomes unprofitable, they won't.
The security and transactions and wallets getting locked and all of that don't matter at all if you're converting the SC2s to BTC to USD as fast as they come in.  They're out nothing if the network crashes or RS steals everything.

Essentially, the majority of people mining all the coins don't give a shit about the future of that coin or any other coins.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: johnj on October 28, 2011, 12:16:33 AM
Looks like they may be having new issues

http://imgur.com/a/zzLM4

Edit:

Not really related, but I just thought this was classy

http://i.imgur.com/i0ZZc.png


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: PatrickHarnett on October 28, 2011, 02:27:28 AM
Say someone had a million SC and complete control of SC source code.  Say this person knows SC is dead.  He could implement a "bug" which locks all the wallets and then use that vacuum to sell off his SC before the price drops.

Bingo, it's not a bug and locking the wallets is what he did to me two days after launch.

Um, I agree, where is the normal BitcoinExpress?  Very odd.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: Bobnova on October 28, 2011, 02:31:19 AM
The vast majority of bitcoin people got into bitcoin because they can make USD mining bitcoins, they don't give a rats ass about it's "security", or anything else.
Same deal with SC, it's profitable, people mine it.  If it becomes unprofitable, they won't.
The security and transactions and wallets getting locked and all of that don't matter at all if you're converting the SC2s to BTC to USD as fast as they come in.  They're out nothing if the network crashes or RS steals everything.

For every seller there is a buyer.  Someone selling a coin doesn't remove the risk it simply transfers it.  Thus no matter what someone is assuming the risk.  Their wallet can be locked, their funds can be stolen, their coins are worthless if RS halts the network.

Regardless of who "owns" it the amount at risk = # of coins mined * current value of coins.  A miner selling a coin doesn't change that.

Oh yes, somebody takes a risk, but the miners don't.
I'm not mining SC, but if I was I'd be risking a few cents of electricity at any given point in time.

If bitcoin and especially all the alt coins have proven one (1) thing, it's that there's always someone willing to risk money for a profit.


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: localhost on October 28, 2011, 05:08:50 AM
Um, I agree, where is the normal BitcoinExpress?  Very odd.
+1, since he's back from his ban he seems to be CoinHunter's super-best pal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50024.msg596777#msg596777). That's weird... did someone steal his account or something?


Title: Re: Solidcoin lost transaction
Post by: Spacy on November 01, 2011, 08:27:24 PM
Litecoin has passed Solidcoin in value on BTC-E and will also do on Solidcoin24 sometime soon.

You mean because you pushed it a little bit? 1 pusher doesn't work out at the end, when his investments are bought, the price will get back to his real price...