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Title: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: Dig Bicks on September 04, 2018, 10:11:23 PM
So apparently I'm not allowed to post anything that goes against capitalism and supports socialism,

the politics and society boards are censored to hell and I'm getting posts deleted for no fucking reason.


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 04, 2018, 10:28:24 PM
Are you sure it's not for trolling?  I ask that because I've seen a lot of your other posts are pretty troll-y.

Also, why don't you show which posts got deleted so the community can give you some feedback and probably a good laugh as well?  You do realize this is essentially a forum about money, right, and not a socialist mecca?  I don't think there are a lot of socialists here, though I could be wrong. 

Anyway I doubt you got your posts deleted because of your philosophical leanings.  Bitcointalk is pretty tolerant of weird ideas and people, though I admit I don't frequent P&S at all.  If you really want to talk about socialism, why not do so on a more appropriate forum--or in Economics, where it might actually fit.  Why bother posting in P&S anyway?  Last I went there, it was a bunch of chimps drooling over their keyboards, kind of like Off-Topic.  No offense to chimps or anyone who actually tries to write something constructive there, but P&S should be quarantined until the infection runs its course.


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on September 04, 2018, 11:12:53 PM
I mean, there's literally a thread entitled "Socialism vs capitalism ,which one is good for us ??" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3254515.0) that begins with the words:

In my opinion Socialism is good for us.

Flying Hellfish has been a good mod. He cleans up the spam without censoring anyone. I've seen him disagree strongly with BADecker numerous times, but he has never once tried to censor him. I would struggle to believe he is doing that to you now.


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: suchmoon on September 04, 2018, 11:28:05 PM
P&S is quite usable these days mainly thanks to Flying Hellfish. Perhaps the OP meant the alternative definition of censorship.

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Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: krishnaverma on September 04, 2018, 11:32:12 PM
What seems unfair to you is just for 100s of others. Try to see a bigger picture in case of a forum as much big as this one and you will get the answer by yourself.

Good luck.


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on September 04, 2018, 11:33:23 PM
-snip-

You're definitely getting a vote for that one.


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: nostrings on September 05, 2018, 12:29:01 AM
I noticed the same thing   Had my post deleted

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Governments should tax wealthy people and companies more and stop trying to pester the people that are in poverty.  The world we be a much better place if wealth was distributed more equally.


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: Flying Hellfish on September 05, 2018, 03:46:44 AM
I noticed the same thing   Had my post deleted

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Governments should tax wealthy people and companies more and stop trying to pester the people that are in poverty.  The world we be a much better place if wealth was distributed more equally.

I can not believe a mod would fucking delete a highly informative post like this, shame on him, he must have an agenda!

Edit:  Inb4 nazi ref  8)


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: nutildah on September 05, 2018, 04:11:48 AM
I noticed the same thing   Had my post deleted

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Governments should tax wealthy people and companies more and stop trying to pester the people that are in poverty.  The world we be a much better place if wealth was distributed more equally.

I can not believe a mod would fucking delete a highly informative post like this, shame on him, he must have an agenda!

Edit:  Inb4 nazi ref  8)

So you're anti-distribution of wealth then??? !

NAZ.... oh darn too late.



Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: Flying Hellfish on September 05, 2018, 04:34:33 AM

So you're anti-distribution of wealth then??? !

NAZ.... oh darn too late.

Not only am I anti-distribution of wealth I am also pro-distribution of wealth, mind blown yet?  :o

In reality I am anti-distribution of shit posts but hey lets not let a thing like reality get in the way!


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: Smarty14392 on September 05, 2018, 04:41:27 AM
I noticed the same thing   Had my post deleted

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Governments should tax wealthy people and companies more and stop trying to pester the people that are in poverty.  The world we be a much better place if wealth was distributed more equally.
Great, you truly think this is a worth post to be on this forum. I think people posting illogical information like this should be banned to decrease the shit posting here.

He thinks that applying taxes to only rich people is equality :D

Its totally a sign of inequality from my point of view!!


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on September 05, 2018, 07:22:22 AM
So apparently I'm not allowed to post anything that goes against capitalism and supports socialism,

the politics and society boards are censored to hell and I'm getting posts deleted for no fucking reason.

Fuck socislism. May the rich become richer & the poor become poorer. You’re a bitcoin’er, not a charity worker.


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: Steamtyme on September 05, 2018, 08:05:56 AM
I'm not sure what or where you posted in P&S.

I am however confident that if you were post was on-topic, decently written and thought out; the stance  or ideals behind it would not have mattered. This forum and it's moderators are not here to suppress anyone's views or ideals, within the rules of this forum and the specific board. I have both read and engaged in topics within P&S that cover all manner of different views there, and I can guarantee that FH doesn't agree with all of them.

So why do you feel it would be your specific views that would be targeted by them? Your post may have been deleted for being redundant, off-topic, low quality; again without specifics who knows.



Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: hilariousetc on September 05, 2018, 08:14:10 AM
So apparently I'm not allowed to post anything that goes against capitalism and supports socialism,

the politics and society boards are censored to hell and I'm getting posts deleted for no fucking reason.

Context is king here. Your political views are unlikely to be censored and it was probably removed for some other infraction.

I noticed the same thing   Had my post deleted

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Governments should tax wealthy people and companies more and stop trying to pester the people that are in poverty.  The world we be a much better place if wealth was distributed more equally.

How do they pester people in poverty? Somehow I don't think you would be saying this if the tables were turned and you were one of the rich people being extorted out of their hard earned cash. People should stop expecting free handouts and go make themselves wealthy if that's what they truly desire. Wealthy people shouldn't be robbed just because they've been more financially successful than you. I believe taxes are a good thing if they benefit society as whole, but I think a flat tax where everybody pays the same would be a far better solution, but the rich shouldn't be robbed just because you want free money.


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: Jet Cash on September 05, 2018, 08:41:43 AM
I want to be rich so that i can pay more in tax. :)


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: nostrings on September 05, 2018, 11:53:08 AM
So apparently I'm not allowed to post anything that goes against capitalism and supports socialism,

the politics and society boards are censored to hell and I'm getting posts deleted for no fucking reason.

Context is king here. Your political views are unlikely to be censored and it was probably removed for some other infraction.

I noticed the same thing   Had my post deleted

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Governments should tax wealthy people and companies more and stop trying to pester the people that are in poverty.  The world we be a much better place if wealth was distributed more equally.

How do they pester people in poverty? Somehow I don't think you would be saying this if the tables were turned and you were one of the rich people being extorted out of their hard earned cash. People should stop expecting free handouts and go make themselves wealthy if that's what they truly desire. Wealthy people shouldn't be robbed just because they've been more financially successful than you. I believe taxes are a good thing if they benefit society as whole, but I think a flat tax where everybody pays the same would be a far better solution, but the rich shouldn't be robbed just because you want free money.

Free handouts? Rich people get more handouts then anyone.  The USA government privatizes the profits but makes the losses public, they bail out the bankers and auto industry and give ridiculous tax breaks to corporations.  The wealthy people make the laws.

Wealthy people robbed?  You do realize they make their wealth off the backs of their workers.  The workers are the ones being robbed.  WE live in a society, no one is "self made", we all rely on each other.

The rich get more free money then anyone else.   I'm fine paying higher taxes to help those that are less fortunate, ultimately life is a game of luck.

And most innovation comes from government funded programs like NASA, not capitalism.

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Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: Steamtyme on September 05, 2018, 11:57:42 AM
So as amazing as this is, let's stroll back into on-topic territory.

I believe we were discussing a Natzi, and their dislike of [Insert imaginary slight].


The discussion about taxation and wealth has the potential to do well in P&S


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: vphasitha01 on September 05, 2018, 12:00:41 PM
I want to be rich so that i can pay more in tax. :)
But you can't beat our country when it comes to tax. We are paying taxes all most everything and the latest addition is the tax on interest paid by banks. So now people are not depositing money in the banks. :)


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: hilariousetc on September 05, 2018, 12:15:13 PM
Free handouts? Rich people get more handouts then anyone.  The USA government privatizes the profits but makes the losses public, they bail out the bankers and auto industry and give ridiculous tax breaks to corporations.  The wealthy people make the laws.

This is irrelevant. Two wrongs don't make a right, but who's more in the wrong here? The people who expect to steal from the rich to give to the poor and get paid more money for doing nothing or the people who have earned their millions and don't want to give it all away to those who are too lazy or incapable of starting their own business.  Not everyone who has a business or a bit of money is part of the super rich or 1% either. There's not much difference between the lower and middle classes these days.

Wealthy people robbed?  You do realize they make their wealth off the backs of their workers.  The workers are the ones being robbed.  WE live in a society, no one is "self made", we all rely on each other.

They're not slaves and no one is being robbed by being employed. People should start their own businesses or stop working for people if they're so against this. The same people who complain at the rich only do so because of envy and they want to be just like them and if they were they'd be doing the same thing and they certainly wouldn't want to be giving away their hard earned money. People need to stop blaming others for their own problems or lack of success.


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: Flying Hellfish on September 05, 2018, 12:17:25 PM
I mean, there's literally a thread entitled "Socialism vs capitalism ,which one is good for us ??" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3254515.0) that begins with the words:

In my opinion Socialism is good for us.

Flying Hellfish has been a good mod. He cleans up the spam without censoring anyone. I've seen him disagree strongly with BADecker numerous times, but he has never once tried to censor him. I would struggle to believe he is doing that to you now.

LOL if I was going to censor anyone BADecker would probably be the first on the list.

As I am on record as stating, a users opinion does not affect my decision when it comes to moderation.  If you think I agree with everything in the P&S boards and that I delete anything I don't like then you are fucking insane because the board is full of retards who think their opinion is more important than facts (which is a pretty big problem generally speaking in society these days IMO).  I would like nothing more than to censor those mental midgets spewing their retarded nonsense all over the board and making me read it LOL.  But the forum is here to be "as free as possible" and I am happy that I have a place that I can say whatever I want so I have to put up with the mental midgets saying whatever they want.

Look OP the forum has so few rules that if you follow them I can go back to not giving a fuck about you!

So apparently I'm not allowed to post anything that goes against capitalism and supports socialism,

the politics and society boards are censored to hell and I'm getting posts deleted for no fucking reason.

Context is king here.

Since when does context stop users on BTCT from a good old censorship witch hunt.


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: stompix on September 05, 2018, 12:19:57 PM
I noticed the same thing   Had my post deleted

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Governments should tax wealthy people and companies more and stop trying to pester the people that are in poverty.  The world we be a much better place if wealth was distributed more equally.

Well....I'm shocked!
I really can't believe it!
This is truly unbelievable!
Everyone should get their survival kits and run for shelters as the apocalypse is coming!

Shitposts are getting deleted?????
Thranduil  Flying Hellfish this is madness!!!!!

And guys, just because of a nazi (national socialist)  is censoring socialism in the P&S   :o :o it doesn't mean we should start discussing socialism here.


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on September 05, 2018, 12:23:02 PM
Maybe we should move this thread to Politics and Society, and then when Hellfish doesn't nuke it we'll know that no one is being censored.


People need to stop blaming others for their own problems or lack of success.

So much this. I have no problem paying taxes to fund programs to help out people who have, through no fault of their own, ended up in hardship - serious illnesses/disabilities preventing people from working or forcing them to provide care to relatives, unexpected deaths, natural disasters, that kind of thing. I'm definitely not "rich", but I worked damned hard to get to where I am in life, and I continue to work damn hard to provide for my family, and I'm fed up of being forced to subsidize the lazy.


Title: Re: Politics and Society Censored unfairly
Post by: Helana on September 05, 2018, 02:04:36 PM
So apparently I'm not allowed to post anything that goes against capitalism and supports socialism,

the politics and society boards are censored to hell and I'm getting posts deleted for no fucking reason.

I'm shocked. You are the one proposing censorship and you complain when a mod stops your trolling nonsense??

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