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Title: Anyway to recover from wrong address?!
Post by: wingsfan19 on September 05, 2018, 03:08:57 AM
On a sportsbook site i believe in my 1st ever transaction, i sent bitcoin cash to a core address. The site says there is nothing they can do since its a 3rd party processor and they wont collect the funds.  ???


Title: Re: Anyway to recover from wrong address?!
Post by: ranochigo on September 05, 2018, 03:13:36 AM
You can actually obtain the funds back since the address format is literally the same, at least for some addresses. The problem is that the retrieving of the funds requires the private key of the address and there is no way the payment processor will give that to you. If they are unwilling to recover it for you, your funds are gone.


Title: Re: Anyway to recover from wrong address?!
Post by: Strufmbae on September 05, 2018, 03:14:59 AM
Did the support team told you that it can't be refunded or do something else?  If yes,  then just accept the fact.  Every transactions is not refundable if it is an address to address, if it is already listed in the blockchain network and a miner pick that block then for sure it will be received by the address you put into receiver. Next time you make any transactions you must double check address.


Title: Re: Anyway to recover from wrong address?!
Post by: wingsfan19 on September 05, 2018, 03:22:56 AM
Yeah, blockchain already shows confirmed. Lesson learned the hard way i guess. Only $100, but still sucks. For a newbie to the game and the little studying i did, i wish the site would have had a few more obvious warnings before allowing the transaction to be sent.


Title: Re: Anyway to recover from wrong address?!
Post by: nc50lc on September 05, 2018, 05:27:36 AM
Yeah, blockchain already shows confirmed. Lesson learned the hard way i guess. Only $100, but still sucks. For a newbie to the game and the little studying i did, i wish the site would have had a few more obvious warnings before allowing the transaction to be sent.
Wait, which one of the two did you contact?
The OP seems unclear to me, "I've sent bitcoin cash to core address" is this a deposit or withdrawal transaction?

If it was from Sportsbook to your 3rd party wallet, you have to contact the 3rd party wallet.
If it was from the 3rd-party wallet to Sportsbook, contact the sportsbook's support.

By the way I'm seeing this is: there's no reason for them to keep your funds given with a valid reason.
Unless in some extremely security-conscious centralized wallets.


Title: Re: Anyway to recover from wrong address?!
Post by: bob123 on September 05, 2018, 07:30:41 AM
Yeah, blockchain already shows confirmed. Lesson learned the hard way i guess. Only $100, but still sucks. For a newbie to the game and the little studying i did, i wish the site would have had a few more obvious warnings before allowing the transaction to be sent.
Wait, which one of the two did you contact?
The OP seems unclear to me, "I've sent bitcoin cash to core address" is this a deposit or withdrawal transaction?

According to OP, he contacted the support which answered that this address belongs to a payment processor.
It therefore has to be a 'deposit' address.



By the way I'm seeing this is: there's no reason for them to keep your funds given with a valid reason.
Unless in some extremely security-conscious centralized wallets.

Unfortunately it is always a security risk when working with private keys.
The private key (even tho without having any BTC funds) has to be retrieved from a secured system.

Not every employee has access to the private keys.

It is very well imaginable that they do either only refund for a hefty fee or do not recover them at all. It is completely up to them.
And they have the right to deny such recoveries.


@OP: If the payment processor refuses to recover your coins, there unfortunately isn't much you can do other than being more careful the next time  :-\


Title: Re: Anyway to recover from wrong address?!
Post by: LoyceV on September 05, 2018, 07:47:53 AM
Lesson learned the hard way i guess. Only $100, but still sucks.
Think of it this way: you learned a valuable lesson for only $100. Many people have paid thousands of dollars for the same lesson.

I know it still sucks, especially since Bitcoin Cash guys pretend to be the real Bitcoin on purpose (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3419499.0).


Title: Re: Anyway to recover from wrong address?!
Post by: Findingnemo on September 05, 2018, 03:12:52 PM
Lesson learned the hard way i guess. Only $100, but still sucks.
Think of it this way: you learned a valuable lesson for only $100. Many people have paid thousands of dollars for the same lesson.

I know it still sucks, especially since Bitcoin Cash guys pretend to be the real Bitcoin on purpose (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3419499.0).
Honestly I learned this lesson for $0,so people need to know what they are doing before they do something.

But it makes a question in my mind since the bitcoin and the bitcoin cash addresses were in same format is there any website or tool which can identify which is bitcoin or BCH address by pasting that address on to that?


Title: Re: Anyway to recover from wrong address?!
Post by: LoyceV on September 05, 2018, 03:53:51 PM
But it makes a question in my mind since the bitcoin and the bitcoin cash addresses were in same format is there any website or tool which can identify which is bitcoin or BCH address by pasting that address on to that?
You can check the same address on a block explorer for different chains. http://www.findmycoins.ninja/ checks many Forkchains at once.


Title: Re: Anyway to recover from wrong address?!
Post by: TryNinja on September 05, 2018, 11:58:51 PM
But it makes a question in my mind since the bitcoin and the bitcoin cash addresses were in same format is there any website or tool which can identify which is bitcoin or BCH address by pasting that address on to that?
You can check the same address on a block explorer for different chains. http://www.findmycoins.ninja/ checks many Forkchains at once.
For some reason my address is showing as invalid in this website. I've been using mocaccino's fork balance checker for some time.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3393869


Title: Re: Anyway to recover from wrong address?!
Post by: HCP on September 06, 2018, 04:45:26 AM
But it makes a question in my mind since the bitcoin and the bitcoin cash addresses were in same format is there any website or tool which can identify which is bitcoin or BCH address by pasting that address on to that?
That's the whole problem... Any "1-type" or "3-type" address is perfectly valid on BOTH Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash networks.

If someone gives you a "legacy" address like this: 1BvBMSEYstWetqTFn5Au4m4GFg7xJaNVN2

There is NO way to determine if they are wanting BTC or BCH purely based on the address itself... you'd need to ask them if that is for BTC or BCH.

This is why there was a push by Bitcoin Cash to start using the so-called "cashaddr" format to prevent confusion and stop people accidentally sending BTC to a BCH wallet. This changed BCH addresses to a completely new format that looks like: bitcoincash:qpm2qsznhks23z7629mms6s4cwef74vcwvy22gdx6a

Refer: https://www.bitcoinabc.org/2018-01-14-CashAddr/