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Seeing the usual conversations in this forum and in others related to the cryptocurrency issue, as well as the groups on Facebook, Telegram and others, it seems that most of those interested in this field have no other interest than making easy and fast profits.

And I think this is something that has negatively impacted the market, because it has driven the high volatility in the prices of cryptocurrencies, regardless of how serious each project is: investors are always willing to sell their tokens at the first opportunity, instead of supporting the cryptos as a technological development with long-term potential.

Do you agree with the speculation without limits?

While I agree with your statement, I want to reiterate that speculators are also an integral part of the crypto ecosystem. Without speculators, we wouldn't have seen such an active crypto market, even though it leads to high volatility!

Speculators and speculation are two major pillars of the crypto economy and we can't deny their contribution to the growth of crypto.

The entire economy is profit driven and crypto is no exception! Today if I invest in a real world company equity, I obviously have to look at the past growth. I would not invest in a company equity if I see a company has a high debt to revenue ratio or if the equity price has shown a steady decrease over past few years. Why?? Because I want to make profit out of my investment. So the role of profit can't be denied either.

We are moving according to thw free market rule so there is no way to stop it. We are at a very nascent stage of the crypto economy and it will take some more time to stabilize. Speculators or investors don't have the power to make the market stable! Instead the increased adoption percentage can help here! Let me know if it doesn't make sense!

I totally agree with what you are saying. I think there are many people predicting prices without too much knowledge to back it up. That will lead to having a negative impact on the coin itself.

The speculators contribute much for the growth of crypto currency because they have influence of the market cap. They are one of several factors that makes the price up and down. Crypto will not grow as today without their contributions. 

Speculators are also an investors, So I think its pretty normal in any market. As long as you have your money in this market, you have something to say. Speculators is quiet important also because it can guide newbies on where is the market right now. The only problem here is that, emotion is stronger than your goal especially with the newbies, and that makes the market more volatile, also include the whales who are playing well in this market.

Yes,  I agree with OP regarding the subject wherein most of people are here in the cryptocurrency to earn fast profit and that is why they are more of a speculator.  I don't know if speculation can really make the crypto market improve and could encourage also to new IP to invest in cryptocurrency. 

The problem isn't just the speculators but the fact that they're all short-term speculators. In a traditional investment most people go long and hold onto an investment for years and years before selling off...but in the crypto world it seems like everyone is trying to become rich in one week, which throws everything off and makes it harder for the industry to grow.

honestly it kind of saddens me the state of the crypto market in some ways (like what the OP is talking about) in other ways I am very happy with it (high hopes on the horizon) but yea I think getting into crypto solely for the reason to speculate and make profit is not a good thing at all and in the long run will hurt the economy we do need speculation and such but at the levels it is at right now I think is not healthy at all just people hyping and pumping coins and trying to manipulate people into buying or selling for their own benefit not my idea a very good or healthy economy!

    Crypto market is volatile and price of every coins is unstable that's why people keep on predicting because they believe it could help to sustain the value of cryptocurrency and we can't avoid to predict. Speculations can help everyone to maintain courage specially when market is down. It could help us to know where are now. A lot of speculators out there because they are also one of those investors in crypto market that always longing for profit.

What's funny is that most other cryptos and "projects" would be dead in the water without these speculators. There are very few good ideas out there, and everyone is just milking the blockchain train. You could very easily say that there will be very few scam projects without speculators, but they also only ever scam speculators themselves, so it's kind of moot. Great ideas will thrive regardless.

As for Bitcoin itself, speculators do encourage some bad habits, but I feel like it would still be in our best interests to welcome everyone who wants in. You never know how many will stick around for the right reasons. The more people who experience holding and using it, the better for adoption.

all those groups on facebook, telegram,... were created to speculate talk about the price mostly because they are pump and dump groups that you are seeing disguised as something else. and they are all looking for making money from the crypto market pump and dumps.

i disagree with saying this has created volatility, it is not at all because of that. the altcoins have been always more volatile than bitcoin simply because they have always been pump and dumps. people these days are even turning altcoins (specially the tokens) into a gambling game where they invest in random ones to bet and see how lucky they are. that is why they dump it as fast as possible because it is a race to dump.

Most experts seem to agree, in one way or another, that the arrival of old money will allow the cryptocurrency market to grow.

We have every right to speculate and show off our feelings. Expressing our opinions regarding crypto issues is just fine. Ot helped actually crypto to spread such infos, whether it is a fud or not. And also, it may somehow the performance of the market but not in a big percentage.

Crypto market is volatile and price of every coins is unstable that's why people keep on predicting because they believe it could help to sustain the value of cryptocurrency and we can't avoid to predict. Speculations can help everyone to maintain courage specially when market is down. It could help us to know where are now. A lot of speculators out there because they are also one of those investors in crypto market that always longing for profit.
all those groups on facebook, telegram,... were created to speculate talk about the price mostly because they are pump and dump groups that you are seeing disguised as something else. and they are all looking for making money from the crypto market pump and dumps.i disagree with saying this has created volatility, it is not at all because of that. the altcoins have been always more volatile than bitcoin simply because they have always been pump and dumps. people these days are even turning altcoins (specially the tokens) into a gambling game where they invest in random ones to bet and see how lucky they are. that is why they dump it as fast as possible because it is a race to dump.

I think the market is based on speculation because it is what keeps the market active if there is no incentive as people always work and thought since I know the crypto that this is the new wall street where the coins are stocks and go up and down everything depends on the purchase and sale and whoever knows how to interpret the market is the winner

Indeed, this is what happening all the time, a group of person comes in and start asking about the price predictions of the bitcoin for the future and then bunch of more people will jump in to share their extensive knowledge about the prices of bitcoin and there you go, repeat, repeat, and repeat!
This is what happening over the forum for sure. There wont be any serious discussion regarding the crypto space and its advancement or how the current problematic loop of the crypto projects can be broken to have a straight road! There is no excellent talking over the different and innovative projects and thats why this is just home to the profit making and nothing else.

I think most of us are interested in fast and easy profit but the sane side of our brain control us in believing such investment.  I also do not think it impacts the cryptoverse negatively if those who participate in such have a solid understanding about the risk and how big the risk is.

And as I  understand, investors are different than fanatics.  Investors will always aim for sure profits no matter how  small it is.  So investors selling the moment they saw their profit is normal.  And yes peoples imagination knows no bound so speculation without limits is possible.

From the beginning this system form with a huge of speculations came from different investors which has a big impact in cryptosystem therefore it is very doubtful and unusual when cryptosystem have no any speculations because in the first place only speculation are can make by any investors in this system because we all known that in this field there is no stable and fix movements of all cyptos so all of the people involves here are really doing speculations. So it means that speculations is very important to the investors so they keep involving here and patronizing this system.

I think that everyone has the right to do what he wants. Speculators bring money to the market and do nothing wrong.

existence of speculators is not a bad thing on its own if you ask me. it is inevitable and we are all speculators in one way or another. you can't say you have bought bitcoin or even earned it and don't speculate about its price and not interested in the profit that it gets you. so you are a speculator too. but in the end it depends on how many are purely in it for speculation and how many are also in bitcoin for the technology. I'd say in bitcoin there are enough people who are interested in the decentralization aspect and other benefits that comes with it but in altcoins possibly everyone is only in it for the profit.

With the way Bitcoin's prices are moving, you can never blame the growing(or decreasing) number of speculators in the market. I mean, the opportunities that Bitcoin opens up to us should be grabbed right away. Let it sit and those are missed chances for anyone to earn. Plus, I think the speculators give the market the "balance" that it needs. Of course, I would prefer if many users do see Bitcoin more than just an investment tool. This will give it a chance to further expand its applications and reach different parts of the world where it can provide payment convenience, security, etc.

this is what we always seen in the first stage of the projects, instead of supporting the projects, most of the investors are getting/grabbing the first opportunity to sell their tokens/coins just to get profits. and most of the time holders are suffering much hurt after the dump, and the projects is hard to recover after that.

there haven't been many solid long lasting projects in crypto world
hence people always try to get in first and get out fast as soon as profit can be realized
if the project is real, speculators won't affect much the course of the project
in fact its tokens/coins should get appreciated in price along with the development of the project
project development affects token's price, it should not be the opposite 8)

Already those who give us the most damage, these speculators? Nevertheless, I think that this negativity will disappear in the future.

So you mean that if someone is a speculator he just want a fast profit? I doubt it.
Somehow speculations really affect the market as people easily believes on what they read and jumping into the conclusion without even knowing if it's true and there they are spreading the news that they read and so acts a domino effect in the community. Instances, we have influencial people that we've looking up to and everything that they've forecasting is a big deal for us, but still it's up to us whether to believe them or not.

What else is it good for? To hold relatively short time and wait, when You can sell at higher, than You have bought. Wait, thats is the essence of speculating, right?

Yes, I think what you are describing is the fact that is happening now. there are lots of new coins present but many are useless. I think this is bad as you say, most of the developers also don't prioritize ideas and technology as the basis for crypto. how to make money fast is the main goal of various ico at this time.

We can't blame those investors who sells their altcoin because that is actually the main purpose of investment right? During ICO, that altcoin is on a sale price where you get an extra percentage bonus or maybe an airdrop. The price on ICO changes when time passes by and when it gets listed to a trading platform, the price either went down or went up depending on the traders approach. If I were an investor, I will definitely play with my altcoin I invested with. I mean, I will sell my altcoin above ICO price since I got it on a sale price. That will be a secured profit right? Then depending on the potential of the altcoin, the real supporters or holders will buy it back at its lowest price.

The market was volatile even without speculators.Yes, a large percentage of people in the cryptocurrency see only benefits,but as a rule such people are not far-sighted.Most of those who see cryptocurrencies one step ahead do not sell cryptocurrencies as soon as possible.

What makes the blockchain such an incredible technology for speculation? Let’s first examine what makes a good speculative asset and see how blockchains help.
1)Hard To Counterfeit
2)Easily And Cheaply Held
3)Easily And Cheaply Transferred
4)Secure
5)Private
6)Divisible
7)Programmable Contracts
The biggest criticism of cryptoassets is that they are only good for speculation. That’s not true: there are many reasons to buy the underlying assets, like for computing power or to transact privately. But it is true that blockchains are unusually good for speculation.

There are not too many speculators in crypto, all of us are speculators and traders. Market isn`t volatile because of the crypto itself, it`s volatile because all of us are trading, speculating. With everyone having a possibility to affect the market, you need to have volatility, because each of us affect supply or demand. Today when we have crypto profit can be in crypto or in fiat, which way you choose you will work to have more crypto demand is going up or you will sell crypto for fiat and you will make supply higher. Maybe that is a good thing, we affect the price with our actions, nobody can do it alone. Whales have more power, but all of us contribute to the market, crypto market is special cause of that. Look at the topic and comments here, you will understand that each person have some idea about the crypto future, and according to that people trade and speculate, each of us.

most investors see the value of the token or currency more important than the project behind it, which leads to the massive purchase of cryptocurrencies without knowing which are the ones that can give the best returns, this causes a massive overvaluation, where they arrive other investors who believe in the project but lose money if they do not analyze the situation adequately.

I do agree with you.  Market won't move without speculators.  A clear definition of speculator according to google :


These are the people who think that the market will go up and invest in the stocks ( in this case Bitcoin) that they believe in.  I also do not see it wrong in investing our money in something we believe in.

even we also include speculation. if it is not speculation in trading, or choosing an investment, we at least always focus on ico, where we will join the bounty campaign. and finally get a reward or not? great value or not? it is also speculation. Crypto world is full of speculation, but promises big profits.

Yes I agree on that investing in one thing that we believe is amazing and I see that there is no wrong with it. Bitcoin or maybe crypto feild has many speculators bit I only believe on the speculation that has a basis, and not only speculations. I believe that crypto will rise soon but there is no exact date or maybe time on it.

The existence of speculators I think is quite normal in the crypto market, because crypto is market fluctuations, the price is determined by demand. but for now many are speculators to influence people in selling or buying in order to generate quick profits. The only problem here is, emotions are stronger than your goals, especially with beginners, and that makes the market more volatile.

Speculations has always been part of every endeavours where people buy and sell that provides opportunity to make money. In the stock market, forex market, commodity market, local market etc. the difference is that its more pronounced in crypto market than other forms of market listed there which is due to the growing nature of the market. When its eventually grown, the volatility would be reduced to the minimum.

On tokens, there is really nothing to do about that at this time until there is some regulations in that market. Its the fear of future worthlessness that push people to start looking for the first opportunity to sell but with regulations, you are sure that only workable projects makes it to the ICO market and with that, stability would gradually be introduced into the market.

There are hypers too. They hype the news and promised something tnat is not believeable. I think there are campaigns that just like that, they are being paid too and also you can see them on trading chatbox. There are many trolls there. :)

In any investment market, i think there is speculator. They just want to make quick profits and sometimes does not care about the technology behind it. I think its very normal because peoples always looking an opportunity to make profits on their investment.

Basically, a lot of people came into crypto space just to earn money. They don't care about technology, ideas and changing life to better. They just want to make fast money. And only 20-30% truly believe in Bitcoin and blockchain.

There are speculative behaviors in any field!
As long as there is interest, people will find speculative behavior!
Whenever a new general-purpose technology subverts the economic order, it is almost always accompanied by a period of increased financial speculation. Encrypted currency is the new economic order!

The only problems that most people face is impatience and being hasty. If they are patient enough, I am sure they will get a good profit. But people, nowadays, only want quick profit. They need to know that bitcoin is a long-term investment. There are short-term investments, but it requires a good knowledge of the market and cryptocurrency in general. And that's why people always fail to make a profit in the end.

Every act of business (buying and selling) is riddled with speculation. It is what drives businesses and their owners and this eventually turns to either 'Actual" or "Rumour". This is not a crypto thing alone. It transverses every business, even the forex market. So, I don't think there's any harm in people speculating. There shouldn't be a limit to it either.

That is very true aside from hyper, FUD'ers  exist too.  This happen when one group wanted to buy at low shaking weak hands and catch the discounted coins to make a lot of profit.

Aside from speculators, manipulators also exist.  Well that is how market goes, and it was ever since.  Those speculators who know what they are doing and be able to ride with whales and can see through manipulators are at an advantage in this highly volatile market.

I agree with your statement, but I want to reiterate that speculators are also the two main pillars of cryptoeconomics, and we can not deny their contribution to the growth of cryptography. All economy is profit, and crypto is not an exception! I think that it would be worth treating this not as cosposobubysty earnings, and more seriously consider projects and start-ups associated with crypto currency and blocking technology. But this is my opinion, and you think to decide for yourself ... and just a little off topic I wish everyone a good mood. Everything will be fine.

many cryptocurrencies are not ready for a simple fall, but are ready to support empty liquidity. I think this is the wrong way for developers

yes guys, you are right. most beginners who come to crypto are speculators who want big and fast profits. and that greatly disrupts market prices. because pumps and dumps will occur quickly due to panic. but unlimited speculators are everyone's choice. it's just that the risk will be greater.

Speculation is the nature of this market. It is also the reason why the market is moving up and down. Although speculation is not always consistent because I never seen a speculator that is always right consistently.

i don't know much but i think that speculators are one of the major head in the crypto world because without them the stability of the crypto woildn't be stable, The whole economy is benefit driven and crypto is no special case! Today on the off chance that I put resources into a certifiable organization value, I clearly need to take a gander at the past development. I would not put resources into an organization value in the event that I see an organization has a high obligation to income proportion or if the value cost has demonstrated an enduring diminishing over recent years. Why?? Since I need to make benefit out of my venture. So the job of benefit can't be denied also..

Even me have been influenced by those ideas, instead of holding I immediately sell the tokens I have invested in seeing I can gain a profit of 20 to 30 percent. Why have I been like these? Surely the reason is if I do not do it some one else will so instead of being too late to do that I make the first move. I do not know what gotten in the crypto space- most people think it is the best way to get rich but the truth is it the opposite when you are dumb enough to follow other ideas that leads to nothing. I guess that is how it works in a society like what we have now.

Cryptocurrencies allows very quickly to carry out transactions related to trading. At the same time, some cryptocurrency projects are not entirely transparent. Their organizers can declare one number of coins, but in fact they will release more. This attracts scammers, as, for example, it was with the Envion project.

I agree, but it seems that there are other factors that cause high volatility in cryptocurrency prices. That is, there are many people who are panicking with negative issues about cryptocurrency. Maybe they are new people in the world of cryptocurrency. I think, that can be a cause too

Since the last few months I've noticed that the number of speculatiors and speculations have reduced compared to the previous month's when the market was still bullish. These guys have succeeded in running many people dry with their pump and dump scheme. One has to be very wise and informed.

In my opinion, speculations has greatly influenced in market of cryptospace for it deals about how market pump and dump.

Well that is right speculators are good in the world of crypto so that every holders have knowledge when they can buy or sell bitcoin or there token. And you are correct deals market pump and dump.

I definitely agree with you on this. Majority of people in the cryptospace are just interested in the amount of profit they will make when they join the crypto world. The cryptospace needs true believers not people who are just in to make profit. The speculations are too much and it is killing the crypto world slowly.

Speculations can't affect the market much only if every one here knows this market already but since so many newbies and some people are still depending on any speculation, the market reacts on that one easily. I don't believe on any speculators, I only believe on the price movements of a coin but since negative news are always around us, I am now considering to listen to this one and make a wise decision after that.

and the problem is these speculators, it is very easy to provide negative feedback with various bad news in crypto. So they are very easy to make fishing rods that they can easily use to make the market price very volatile

Speculation is needed to push things up. In other words, speculation is used by speculators to take advantage of the narrowness. like speculation to buy, sell, or hold in the short or long term. All is done of course for the benefit of the speculator.

Just like when there's a controversial boxing match, a lot of would be boxing analyst will come out like mushroom. they will give their insights even when its unsolicited. they feel they know everything by just watching 2-3 boxing matches. Same here in cryptos, not because you have a few good trades means you are already good in trading and speculating.

The cryptospace is tried of all these speculations. Crypto illiterate are so many in the crypto world, and they are mostly responsible for the spread of these speculations. People needs to understand and get to know the crypto world before they say things the don't know about cryptocurrency.

I absolutely agree with you, and the speculators should be regulated.
Speculators became the dominant group behind most Bitcoin transactions and went beyond criminals and drug dealers. Five years ago, Infante's analysis of blockchain data showed that illegal activities accounted for about 90% of all bitcoin transactions. However, this trend has completely changed, with only 10% of transactions currently blamed on criminals, and speculators are currently the main drivers of the market.

Since the introduction of bitcoin in 2009, there have been several speculations on bitcoin and how unstable it is. Today, the market has really grown exponentially, in three to five years to come I see tremendous improvement in the digital currency market with the prices of the various Cryptos becoming relatively stable than it is today.

In my personal opinion, I think speculations are necessary to get the market going. Without speculators, our market will simply be stagnant and unattractive.
What motivates almost all the investors is profit and they want to get that profit as quickly as possible.

hello guys, i a newbie, so you can give me some experiences

if I agree with unlimited speculation, but if we think of logic, of course, of course there will be a limit where the price is considered sufficient, many investors actually support the project. however, the party from the team does not work professionally so that it also affects investors themselves

Definitely ,and it is not an useful act for everyone here. Bitcoin is on going for a better state,and people is barely losing their temper, clickbaiting articles and fake news really affect us in the way that whatever news has come to life it will be absorb by the people which we can as not a good thing always since it may cause for sudden lost of determination to work further if the news was all about Bitcoin is now dead thingy.

everyone always wants profit and surely that is their main goal in entering the world of krypto. because the difference is different that the krypto currency can grow even now. . . we need stupid people and we also need smart people. all related and need each other to create balance. that's my opinion

Well in addition to that too many speculators there are also too many critics about the cryptocurrency world in general most of there reason or speculations are wrong and baseless

yes you are right, more than 80% of bitcoin investors are just after making huge profits not minding the growth and use of bitcoin in day to day transactions and this has surely made the bitcoin market so volatile with lots of speculations regularly here and there.

Alot of speculators because of the age of crypto in the capital market so this is much expected. Volatility can also take this factor into consideration but the main one is the adoption imo. Less support means less stability.

yup, it can be concluded that today's cryptocurrency is just an investment digital asset to get big profits in a short time. speculator motivation is nothing more than profit, if it feels that the project they are supporting shows an unfortunate tendency they will immediately sell all of their assets without the slightest consideration. this clearly has a very bad effect on the cryptocurrency market. this industry needs more value than just an investment tool.

Speculator and businessmen have taken over the crypto space. The Bulls, Bears, and Whales all represent various kinds of businessmen who are fighting for their interest. However, the activities of these speculators are helping the growth of awareness of cryptos. Without the media attention on the activities of these guys, the spread of crypto wouldn't have been as it is today.

indeed the investment from the beginning contains speculation and predictions that no investment can produce the right certainty that we should know with all the risks we will get investment

some people are just delusional in this market!

the problem is with the market itself too. the newbies enter it and then blindly invest in some shitcoin and earn a huge profit out of nowhere because of the pumps. (like 2017 shitcoin pumps) then they start to think as if they were experts and eventually convince themselves of it!
the result is everyone speculating with different weird predictions.

There are a lot of scams in real life, not only on the Internet. If prisons weren't filled with people who were put behind bars for pot or repost on a social network, the Internet would be much safer than it is now. And so we have what it has and it's not very good.

speculation has been one thing that can not be ignored so far as cryptocurrency is concern and even in various things. But the fact is that irrespective of speculations of which comes out accurate prediction and with some just falling wayward, we all has investors should also find time to do our personal research and know the best rather than blaming speculation as part of market flop of bitcoin.

I agree with you, speculation is what makes the money move on this business, without speculation people will not be motivated to spend a cent on cryptos, Is the speculations what make us take take out the money from bank and spend in the future. Some people lose and other don't, but it's how this works.

Both of you are right. It is the reason we need always to don't depends on the speculators because they probably don't know the real thing that happens like us. The speculators still want to take a benefit from the changing of the market, so we need to be careful when we follow and use their news, and if we think that they give fake news then we need to leave as soon as possible, and we need to move to another and do research.

no problem with the many speculations about the price and future of crypto. even this forum was also made to discuss the issue. but it is true, that speculation about the crypto market often misses, so for anyone who wants to buy or invest, do not focus on speculation, but believe in themselves so that later if they do not meet expectations do not blame the speculators.

There are two kinds of speculators, professional and amateurs. Pro of course are eating all funds of amatours. (This is where all the stories about lost money from credits come from.)
Greed verifies very quickly, who have knowledge and why he is interested in cryptocurrencies. Fortunately, most people after the first failed investment begin to learn and understand what cryptocurrencies are. So it really is very good that there are many speculators and let there be more, but we can not forget that education is the most important thing.

Everyone has the right to express opinions about the speculation he has captured in the market and this may be many people who are pro and contra, but this is a market situation and also knowledge gained in the market. We also have our own speculations and we can consider them later so that we are able to make the best decisions.

entire cryptoindustry is something like a very mad casino by depicting some kind of "economic perfectionism" they simply try to attract those desperate gamblers. bringing them their hard work acces reward to consumption capacities. (communal money)

Speculations and speculators are expected in a speculative Crypto Currency that we all call Bitcoin and these speculations of people will never stop because this industry is all about speculations. You're correct that almost everyone in this crypto space is aiming for only one goal "to make a quick profit" I'm not saying everyone but most of the people in here are up to it and you can't hide it. ;D

Yes it can impact the market with those kinds of behavior but we should expect those because of Bitcoin and other forms of Crypto Currencies are decentralized and no one controls them but the majority of the people can make a huge impact on its value movement.

Speculation itself does not have any limit because it is theories without any kind of evidence.

And to add up, speculations and speculators make this industry so lively and we should get used to this kind of system. 8)

I think because of the profits people dare to take steps to speculate, and a lot of speculation they get losses and in the end they panic and sell low, making the market worse.

There are never too many speculators! We support the market, we press supply and demand, what's wrong with that? It seems to me that the more speculators on the market - the better for Bitcoin.

Every project has their roadmap towards the development of the project but hardly will the holders of the coins adhere to or follow the roadmap. Everyone is in a hurry to sell off to make money and this will ultimately harm the project. If only we can exercise a little patient with our coin both investors and bounty hunters then most of the projects will survive.

Speculations have been made in the past regarding cryptocurrency in general, some of which has either turned out to be true, while others false. Even in recent times, speculations are still being made. One thing for sure, is that there are no certainties to all these speculations.

speculating in bitcoin is good, if you speculating bitcoin, you can start trading bitcoin or investing bitcoin. after you can make a speculation, you can earn some money and you can earn some profit from it

Only need to learn better on a daily basis than the benefits obtained from Bitcoin later. You can see prices slowly rising. It becomes one of the benefits that will come to you if you have invested.

I do not understand whether speculators have a bad or not impact on the crypto market. But in my opinion, at the time of mass adoption, it hasn't really happened yet. Crypto requires volatility, so the market looks alive

Speculators are present to guide the world not necessary mean to believe and follow everything. Still the decision and choice is in individual understanding and objections.

Speculators play a vital role in the space wether its dealing negatively or positively. Indeed market will be boring if no speculators at all, investors has different point of view and strategy on how they make money but I think there are more matured investors than speculators who truly believe and understand the values of crypto.

Speculation is sometimes an integral part of a developing market within healthy competition. Many thus entered the crypto community.

Speculation is root of all evil. Warren Buffet stated that fact which talks about the benefits of speculators in society.Speculators are called parasites in my country :D  They use first-hand information very well and this action destroys a market. Effective speculation requires best techology,information than your competitors because you are not only person who wants to take advantage of possible situation.

the bitcoin market is filled with so many speculators with everyone trying to predict what will happen to bitcoin price in the next future and most times end up making wrong predictions. i think people should not make price speculations about bitcoin as no one can accurately predict the price of bitcoin.

and this is one of the reasons why people say crypto is just a mere speculative market with no real value. Anyways i disagree with tbem because cryptos hace really got value and as time goes on, many people eill start converting somenof their Fiats into crypts for storage. Well, we need to reduce the magnitude of speculation we put in the market to make it healthy.

Most people who joined the crypto craze last year during the bullrun ,were just looking to get a quick and easy bite from the pie . Besides no one is ready to sacrifice his money just because he believes in the technology .
Being rational and seing that 90% of people in the crypto space are traders and opportunists , makes it way harder for you to hold or be optimistic about certain projects. So your mentality quickly get shaped accordingly with the community and I don't think that's a very bad thing for you , but for sure a negative outcome for cryptocurrencies.

Ain't most of the money that crypto have from speculators? They study the project and give money. It's normal for speculators to unload whenever they feel they had much profit. It's their payment for the risk because they are not sure of the profit. Too many speculators is a good sign. This means more market participation meaning more money for blockchain projects.

Definitely almost everyone is a speculators here because the price depends on the overall sentiments of the investors, if they speculate that the price is going on a bullish trend then many are going to put their money on the market and hope  to see the price spike in years to come. So in a nutshell that's how the market operates and everything is fuelled by speculation.

Some are just trying hard to be a speculator and some are speculators who backs their forecast with technical analysis. If they just throw out a number like Bitcoin will reach $10,000 by 1st quarter of 2019 without saying something why it would reach that amount then its garbage. Its just something to increase their post count and get paid. However, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Just look at sports, when someone watch a boxing match like Mayweather vs Pacquaio, after the match everyone suddenly became a sports analyst and give their opinion on who should have won the fight. Same with Cryptocurrency, someone was able to register at Binance, made a couple of trades, then suddenly he started to predict the direction of where the price of Bitcoin will go. 

I think speculation is really one of the drivers that got cryptocurrency to where it is now.
Everyone will always speculate, even on traditional investments like equity, commodities and real estate,

Indeed, many people have speculations for certain purposes, here we learn to read the market and the movements that occur so that we can speculate. This is what happens in crypto and always stares at every movement to be able to debate and exchange ideas so that they can conclude themselves.

Well cryptocurrency is a speculative commodity and at that it users will always take it as a means of earning profits and getting quick money and most investors does not care about the development of the cryptocurrency network rather are all focus on the profits they stand to gain as soon as possible and this has resulted in many projects getting frustrated because the user dump them as soon as it get listed on the exchange.

Indeed, there are not so many projects that keep the bar high for a long time. Many projects simply sell tokens, go to the stock exchange (at best) and that's all, the project is almost dead. Nobody supports him any further.

I don't think that there are too many speculators in the cryptospace. Since the community is growing, the number of people who also support this technological development also increases and we can't just see it. And you're not completely wrong about this. Because when we look at this forum, most of the topics are about which altcoins are worth investing and when are the prices going up.

The cryptocurrency market is still very young. Speculation is normal for such a market. There are people who buy and there are people who sell. Anyway, real investors always earn more than speculators.

the truth is almost everyone in the cryptospace speculates price. people tend to predict what will happen to bitcoin every minute, every hour and everyday but no one can accurately tell what will happen. People should stop speculating and watch how things unfold as these speculations sometimes cause panic in the market

That what peoples do when they see something that they wanted or dont want to see.. the price of crytpo.. they tend to predict what will happen base on what they believed and not all will come just like they wanted for. Sometimes when they see something they didnt want to see it will cause a panic over the market. The power of speculation can make something up and down.. and so far i see it bring all crypto down.

in my opinion, any investment that uses speculation because of future developments no one can know what will get in the future and your opinion is very true because speculators make crypto currencies change or go up or down

the truth is most persons who invest in bitcoin are just investing for the sole purpose of making quick profits and thus they try to predict price at every given point in time. But then no one can accurately predict what will happen to bitcoin price at any given point in time. people should stop speculating and just let things fall into place.

I think it is because the volatility of the cryptocurrency market. The value of crypto can drastically rising or falling.
That's why many peoples turn into speculator by buying crypto when the price is low and wait to selling high.

Indeed and it really affects the high volatility if cryptocurrency and speculators have a positive effect also for the cryptocurrency community. This is a part of the process of the cryptocurrency adaptation in the sense that it will teach most of them the future of the cryptocurrency industry. Once in a while we have been a speculator also then became more knowledgeable of the fundamentals of cryptocurrency. So I guess we are the process of the cryptocurrency evolution.

greed for profits in the crypto space does tend to be big, they really won't see anyone they are against, because profit is the number one they are looking for

Everyone of us has the right to predict if we feels like this Speculation will become reality

And we have all the rights to express what we think is good or bad

But it is stupidity if we believe everything they speculate,or if we buy the idea of what they are saying,we must be obedient and intelligent to acquire every single step we do in this forum

Speculation has been a driving force in the cryptocurrency market, making it as big as it is today. Without speculation the price of bitcoin will be stagnant and less favored by cryptocurrency players. In offline trading, speculation is also used by traders.

Accepting positivite effect of speculators on crptocurrency makes no sense. I know that somehow they make crypto-market more attractive to investors for a while but it causes fluctuations and many investors and supporters goes out of the market without coming back. A few years ago, this situation might be acceptable for many investors. Howerver, having a more regular and trustable market right now is important more than anything.

The cryptos markets had been flooded with all kinds of speculators which in most cases often gave out false alarm and news to the detriment of teeming newbies who wanted to invest infact its very difficult to .know which of the speculator to follow considering the fact that Cryptos are unstable.

In recent times the expectation will be more higher with the people who are you saying regularly and earn some money with Bitcoin will definitely be speculated lot of things to do but unfortunately all the decision will go wrong in 2018 it will make all people more effective by the value falling.

This is obvious, the bull market is made by speculators and then the bear market is made by the same speculators who are running for their dear lives. This is human nature,deal with it.

Because of the many holders of cryptos around the world and members and investors of bitcoin and other cryptos , we can not deny that there are many speculations about the situations of the market and the future of bitcoin, but even though they are only predictions but at least we hope for good and positive speculation of bitcoin and market for the future to come.

I agree, they want to profit in a short time and therefore they prefer to be speculators and make the market turbulent, and I think if they trust crypto and make it for long-term assets, crypto will be more stable.

People should be allowed to do whatever they want with their money. If it's really easy money, then there's nothing wrong with saturating the unsaturated market.
The lack of people actually contributing to crypto's adoption and success is another topic.

Everyone want money,so they have choose cryptos as an investment but selling them too early might be wrong from the investor or the project itself depends on where more weigh we having.I don't support the people to invest on the new projects in short term if they really want short term profit they need to pick the altcoin not the upcoming project which can decrease the risk on the both sides.

There so many types of marketing and strategies just to perfectly execute what the persons planned. Speculating the price is just a part of being a human standard that drives to say some possibilities to happen in the future. Whether we like it or not we cannot stop this kind of activities.

indeed there are too many speculators currently in the cryptospace as everyone is strongly trying to predict what will happen to bitcoin and its price this minute or the next minute. we have seen these speculations always come out wrongly so i suggest we just take things calmly and allow events unfold for bitcoin and the cryptocurrency world

This is normal, they exist because they have their own goal in the market, even myself I do speculate sometime because I am an investor and I'm grossly concern with the future it's going. You should not only listen to speculation, make some research so you can analyze it well.
Usually we believe on what is positive as we are pro crypto, positive speculation is good in our ears but we also need to be careful, some people just hype things to attract investors and that's why the market is not moving stable, we look more on the big news with proper source as they are likely a big factor.

the crypto world is indeed filled with speculators as everyoine is trying hard to predict what will happen to bitcoin or its price evry now and then and this has caused serious issues for some as they end up making some wrong moves due to wrong speculation

I think there are many speculations in cryptocurrency because the price of crypto itself is so volatile.
When peoples see the price can go up and down drastically, they see the chance to buy in the lowest price and sell in the highest price to gain profit.
Speculation is happening when peoples guess the most bottom point to buy the coins and waiting for the price to be at the top and sell later.

I think that basically the problem of strong volatility is present in the cryptocurrency market due to the fact that the market contains the forces that can actually do this (we call them whales). All other market participants simply adapt to the situation created by them.
So even if the majority of small investors stop conducting any operations with their assets, this will not help the cryptocurrency become more stable. Quite the contrary. At the moment of uncertainty, when the volume of trades is very low, it is very easy to push the price up or down with a relatively small amount of coins.
The only thing that can really reduce volatility is the introduction of norms and restrictions, due to which such actions of manipulators will be prosecuted by law.

When the season of the cryptocurrency world is in full bloosom and the members and investors are very busy working and managing their investments to have really good profits, but now that the srason has been change and the market still have not risen up, the people affected by this fall season ,mostly hold their coins and will come to more and more speculations and expectations especially when entering a start of a new year , there are many speculations among this very big organization of cryptocurrency.

I am agree that cryptocurrency still a speculation investment because its not regulated in many country. But if bitcoin approved by SEC and ETF trading start, i am think bitcoin like others regulated investment and equal with stocks market

Bitcoin like the others regulates investment and is on par with the stock market. I agree that cryptocurrency is still a speculative investment because it is not regulated in many countries. But if bitcoin is approved by the SEC and ETF trading starts.

Nobody confuses nigga with his godforsaken bitmeksom, in the top exchanges in terms of turnover in the first place, with multiple blizhayzhimi superiority over competitors?
Something that resembles mt.gox on the contrary, only this time the bot does not buy and sells not its own or even non-existent bitcoins.
A few more alarming reports on the volume of wallets of exchanges, 850,000 only from CoinBase.
People, are you completely idiots to keep bitcoins on stock exchanges?
They are the ones who shorts them, leaving you without pants, not to mention that they are periodically betting with all the "depositors' money".
The crypt needs to be kept only on local wallets, to start on the stock exchange solely for the sake of the moment of sale for one session.
It is impossible under any circumstances to keep Bitcoins on stock exchanges or other cloud services for a long time.
They play your money against you, do not even hesitate.
...
And still wonder who it is pouring and where did he get so many crypts.
The stock exchanges with bots and pour, the shortts play up to them in debt, the Ai-soders and the shitkoinovodovy drive them, and you put the bitcoins in your pocket and for some reason don't take them back.
If you buy - immediately withdraw from the stock exchange, otherwise consider that they have not bought anything, only the cash in the debt for the next short planted to them.

It's hard to say if speculations are without limits, but too many speculations happening the cryptocurrency space is for sure. And I agree with what you said, it has negative impact on the market, price is overvalued and hyped, the true development in technology field is obstructed.

Well i agree that in this crypto world we have many speculations about prices , BTC or whatever other topics and it will continue to exist for a long time.The problem is that it can appear wrong predictions and the ones how are new on this forum can be easily tricked, so don't believe every speculation that you see on different threads.

Or you can just ride the waves with them and win as well. I think speculators really ballooned this year when bitcoin went into a bearish trend. Speculators who uses bot to trade and take marginal profits as they wanted to. Take note that it doesn't mean they're whales, they're just casuals but they really know how to take advantage of every situation, especially the volatility to book profits and do the same again and again. That's why the price seems to be trading sideways all the time and when there's a spike, they quickly sell.

speculations are arent unreal so why people believe them  ?  i dont believe on pure speculation but i only believe on legit news that has a real source  . im sure other were also like me, thats why i dont think that speculation alone can make the price move  .  the real reason on why price fluctuate is because of manipulators such as whales  . 

Actually, speculators somehow dictates the trend of the market. They are one of the major factors aside from the government and rules to be implemented on the system usage. On other countries that accepts bitcoin as mode of payment has its speculators to make it happen. In conclusion, they are essential in the community because they are one of the factors of adoption of government thay may help bitcoin to grow even more.

I think speculators has a great impact in cryptospace because they gather a lot of demands if they speculate positively. Cryptospace needs speculators for liquidity. It is the basis of many people in crypto world specially those traders.

I think most of the people who joint the crypto community do it to make some money, so speculations in different coins are huge. But the average crypto owner with a few thousand dollars worth of crypto can't move the market. I think there are heavy manipulators in the crypto markets of small handful of whales.

It is their good place to play ;) . When professional investors decide on which assets to hold, they look at the return and the volatility. Only investors  with a healhy appetite for risk are willing to invest in an investment that risky and volatile. I think high volatility is still okay for us who really loyal to bitcoin. Speculators who afraid and leave bitcoin in incorrect time will lose much money.

But there are still many people who do not understand how to invest properly and they feel lazy to do research, and this is what makes many people more trust in speculators and news where sometimes the reality is very different.

In any economy, the first factor is profit. in crypto, too, one of them is profit. all invest in order to get a high income, if everything is viewed in this perspective, then all speculators ..?!

there are many speculators in all areas of our life and cryptospace is not an exception. people want to earn money and bitcoin gave them such opportunity.

it has become natural if in the world of cryptocurrency there are many people who speculate because they see from price movements and graphs that occur, many people think that cryptocurrency can be predicted even if they only predict and without contributing like buying then the price will not have movement, so it should be able to be balanced with contributions as traders or coin movers.

I think for now anyone can be a speculator ? I think you often see every user expressing their own opinions and predictions about the market. either using what analysis. but they express their predictions to the public. and sometimes it affects several users

Speculations works in some area in cryptocurrency world ,I own two coins that I heard of through speculations and they are very good projects ,one of them is Apollo currency which is growing higher in price even in this bad market condition ,speculations will always exits and no one can stop it I just think its needed

Any investment we made is a speculation. Like we investing in stocks market, its speculation. But investing in cryptomarket is more risky because there is no regulation. Its true that many people speculate in cryptomarket but i think its very usual

I still think that only small investors participate in the discussions that we can see on the forums, on twitter and in the telegram groups. Indeed, most of them are speculators. But it is quite justified. After all, our whole life, the solution to all problems, in most cases rests on the money issue. Therefore, most people consider crypto currency as an opportunity to somehow improve the quality of their life. I believe that no one has the moral right to accuse them of this desire.

I think that some of the small investors and many medium and large investors simply accumulate some cryptocurrencies.

As for the impact on volatility, it is primarily provided by large investors, who, based on their plans, are pushing the price in the right for them direction. And small investors simply pick up the trend, since most of them are hostages of the situation, they just dream to improve quality of life  their family ...

I think the real investors are still supporting long term projects and that is why we still Eth, Eos , Xrp and etc in the top spot of coinmarketcap. The others projects are really just a way to make quick profits. It can be pumped exaggeratedly but after that it is going to die.

Unfortunately, this reality is not only the cryptocurrency market! Even in Fiat there are speculators who are eager to make money on inexperienced traders.
And technology and other associated with it pushed into the background!

Cryptocurrency speculators play a positive and negative role. They actually gave the current fame cryptocurrency. They drew attention to it and interested the majority of the masses to engage in cryptocurrency, in particular, trade in it. Yes, it is speculators who are guilty of the fact that Bitcoin soared in price to $ 20,000 at the end of 2017, and we are still in a bear market. However, due to the fact that then Bitcoin soared in price, the whole world started talking about it.
However, on the other hand, it was speculators that led the states to very poorly legalize cryptocurrency, considering it a bubble and a too risky investment. Cryptocurrency has not yet become a full-fledged payment instrument, because due to the lack of consistency in building the infrastructure, the cryptocurrency is still rather poorly developed.

the cryptospace is filled with lots of speculators who from time to time try to speculate price of bitcoin or what willl happen to bitcoin. This has so far left so many heart broken and even lost so much money as when they thought bitcoin price will go up, it goes down. i think we should all stop speculating and just watch the market.

Entering in the world of crypto is no other purpose its to earned profits. In this field you have a lot options to put investment because theres a lot of altcoins that you can do buy and selll. You can easily earn more profits, if you already knew how to play in the market, but the more risks involved as well. For me, speculators are always there because they're the one who makes confused to some investors.

You're right on this but the question is, how can we eliminate such trend within crypto? About 90% of crypto users are in for the profit and not to support the idea of the project till the end of time and this has been one of the factors contributing to the collapse of most projects after listing on the market.

But speculating also doing some good things to the cryptocurrencies it doesn't let the crypto today which are speculated by many of the investors,so people who are doing right things will get profits,if they just follow others meams they are going to face losses.

Speculators give an impact on the market and without them I don't think the market will be like today. After all, we don't know what will happen to prices in the future and that's why we can consider most traders are speculators. And if we just watch the market without doing anything, we will get nothing!

Speculation certainly triggers people to buy or even sell cryptocurrency. Especially if an influential person in the world of cryptocurrency is talking. speculation is indeed the way that has been applied to the crypto world. it is not wrong to speculate, but all decisions are back to each person. The point is crypto cannot be predicted I guess.

That is what happens in the crypto space and you don't have to listen to the speculators because all they want is only how to get your money and leave you with empty money. Don't accept what they said and only makes your research about the situations that happen in the market and on the news and better you search the other news so you can know what is going on with the crypto.

speculators or speculation doesnt give an impact to the market because we all know that they arent true  . there are verry simillar to predictions without a real solid evidence that it will occur . thats why many people ( including me ) wont easily believe on them .  much better if we can just watch the market without doing anything because that can give you peace of mind   . you will only act once the price is already moving in real time  .

speculation has been a common thing in the cryptospace as so many people from time to time try to predict the price of bitcoin every now and then and most times they end up disappointed. No one can accurately predict what will happen to bitcoin now or in the nearest future. I suggest we just chiill and watch events unfold

It's natural for many speculators who try to express their opinions and of course some of them are able to change market sentiment in the future, this won't damage prices and not everyone easily believes the assumption of some people like them. I consider them only as friends to enrich knowledge and only take good analysis to be analyzed personally further. Decentralization is a very diffuse form, especially in the scope of speculation.

Actually, all of us here are free to speculate whatever we want it to say. We can able to see a lot of them some are good and bad, now its up to us if we are going to adopt it or not. At least we had our own free also to choose on which of their speculation is good for us and have a real essence of words about in crypto. Though, most of the whalers are a real Manipulators.

I think that unrestricted speculation has a negative impact on the state of both currencies and the market as a whole. Of course, such speculation gives people the opportunity to make excess profits, which is why it attracts them so much. But if we are talking about how much this affects the overall adoption of cryptocurrencies, then here I see only a negative impact.
As long as cryptocurrency prices are highly volatile, cryptocurrencies will be considered a bubble and possession of them will not give people a stable sense of comfort. After all, how can you feel comfortable because, for example, today you received a salary of $ 10,000 (in bitcoin equivalent - 2 btc), and after 2 weeks the price of bitcoin fell and your 2 btc became $ 6000?
So if we want cryptocurrencies to be adopted by the world's population, then regulators need to develop appropriate laws.

Although Bitcoin was not created to subordinate it to state laws and restrictions ... ???

It's sad that people sell their tokens at the first sign of getting a small profit. I agree that this is nothing more than pure speculation.

However, each cryto investor has a threshold in his mind and when price goes above it it's difficult to keep holding instead of selling. I think the best option is to never sell more than half of your holdings, no matter what. This way, you will be satisfied in both scenario if tokens price is going up or down.

But it is the desire to earn and has led many people to cryptocurrency. This is quite normal, otherwise this market would not have developed at all. Therefore, I do not think this is a big problem.

I myself came to bitcoin in order to earn, so it's not so bad that people want to profit from it. Many would still over time understand the benefits of using this technology and remain.

Most often, speculators are the fastest disappointed in cryptocurrencies, because it does not bring great results quickly. You need to sincerely believe in the prospect of bitcoin to earn. Therefore, I think that speculators can really have a negative impact on the market.

as you say indeed, everyone does not necessarily understand the benefits of bitcoin. because what people know is that bitcoin is only a source of income. they also sometimes don't see things that are risky to bitcoin.

Well said. Unfortunately there are too many speculators in this market. It’s okay when people wanna earn money from crypto. But on the other hand, i agree what you said,  investors should try to support some crypto as a technological development with longterm potential. Earning some quick money shouldn’t be the main goal.

This topic is really one of the biggest dangers for the crypto world. This is because the digital world is more prone to manipulations and speculations, and that security measures are not yet too developed.

In my opinion, it is natural that crypto trading is filled by speculators, because in principle anyone may be involved and the main goal is to seek profits.
If no profit can be obtained, crypto will be left away so that it will slowly die. So, as long as there are benefits that can be enjoyed, speculators will continue to exist.

But that is not we are witnessing today, speculators in the market is already a overwhelming presence because they wanted to make money in whichever way they can.

Only bitcoin maximalist support its technological development and I'm sure majority of newbies haven't read the whitepaper, I reckon.

Actually it doesn't matter we can see which ones are true and use data or that only speak based on a personal opinion can be a preference for ourselves

While I agree with your submission, I want to note that the aim of going into any investment is to make profit. Investors are into the Cryptocurrency business simply for profit making and that could be the reason why they sell their holdings at any favorable opportunity.
Again, the Cryptocurrency market is one that is hinged on speculation, the market price is highly determined by speculation more than the demand and supply factor.
So speculation in the Cryptocurrency space is something we cannot do without and without it, investors may not make profits from their investments.

This is what the sudden pump in 2017 has caused. During that period, a lot of people enter into crypto investment. Even those who know little or nothing about crypto too. Their aim is to drop a certain amount of money and get double in few days. When you ask many of them how blockchain technology works, they become adamant. The fact still remain that, despite BTC not rising again as wanted by everyone, blockchain technology has continue to witness increase usage worldwide.

Actually most of the people have an own self thinking analization and the result of each analization is equal too many speculation from the different people. They can't avoid this because everyone their have an freedom to express their feelings about the future of crypto currency.

I agree that all the speculators from crypto did not help crypto to have a good image.

However,  speculators are everywhere,  not only in crypto. Gold, stocks and other markets have their own speculators,  except other mature markets are not that volatile.

I agree that speculation is at its best and that's definitely not the core principle of cryptocurrency. I think it will need some more time for everyone to realise that we can gain more value from using cryptocurrency as a payment system in the long run instead of focusing on speculation activities. Sadly, most of us are ignoring the core values of decentralization and it is not something that is expected by Satoshi.

Yes, I completely agree that cryptocurrency now is primarily a speculative tool for making money. In 2017-2018, many people bought tokens of ICO projects, meaning that they were buying useless shit. But the market was growing steadily and it was possible to earn good money on this. This is what attracted many. Quick profit. Remember the gold rush in the United States. We had something similar. The gold rush ended with the fact that many of those who wanted to make quick money by purchasing bitcoins or mining farms suffered significant losses and now have become disillusioned with cryptocurrencies altogether. But this does not mean that the problem is cryptocurrency. The problem is human greed and greed for easy money.

This results to lots of them losing their investment.
It's not same crypto anymore like in the past, it has change a lot because it has pump and reach a big ATH
in just a short period of time, it's not an organic growth so we are seeing a sudden dump also, because of what they saw they got discourage
they think crypto is scam and their dreams are gone forever and this one results to a more panic selling.

I am agree. People speculate in cryptocurrency market because this market still unregulated by government. ICOs are not regulated and the market still unregulated. Like in stocks market, where short selling in many country forbided, there is a rule and regulation in stocks market but in cryptomarket, anyone can launch their ICOs or creating their own coin.

I agree on that, speculations are just an speculation, and we don't have to always lean on the speculations we need to work and believe by our self and if we loss today we need to learn more to avoid losing in the next days. So then I believe that we are the one who can make our own decision and we don't have to be more affected on some speculation because speculations are no assurance at all.

I agree that there's a lot of speculators out there, there are speculators who just toss out a number out from their mind with no other facts that would back their claim, and there are those who present their forecast with graphs and tables and there are those who gives forecast based on their own experience and they love sharing it to the community.

Market is largely volatile at times but in recent past we have seen it is more stable and showing a good resistance which is the best thing. Also with some good news it will again rise quickly. Also speculations are generally those who are daily traders and speculating  only they do make money .

Speculation make bitcoin price reach $19k. Without speculation from investor, i am doubt bitcoin can reach that price. Investor can be speculators or long term holder in any investment market and i think its about a choice to make profits.

Different point of view, but yet there's no certain that we can rely with, many people who tried are just getting frustrated after not getting the target outcome, we do need to keep reading and understand the movements and try to adopt so we will be able to anticipate even not the exact price but at least a little closer.

it doesn't matter if we agree or not
speculation is a part of out everyday's lives and traders shape the market
so you have to accept it and deal with it, as much as I do not like the price manipulated, its life
rich guys get richer, poor guys ... try to get richer :)
I know people who make their living by trading
and trust me it is not all milk and honey , they lose alot, its a gamble and you can go bust if you do not do the things right

They won't get a fast result in cryptocurrency nor the other business because they need to be patient and there is the time they need to realize that every business that they do will give something in the future. They can get a fast result in the gambling games as they can get something which is lost or win in the next second. Cryptocurrency is not easy as they think and if they cannot change their mind, then they are not ready to get involved in the cryptocurrency world.