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Title: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: mskryxz on March 06, 2014, 03:15:52 PM
If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?

Won't he need bodyguards asap?


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: whtchocla7e on March 06, 2014, 03:18:06 PM
Yeah, why don't you go and bodyguard him. You owe the man your existance.  ::)


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: drawingthesun on March 06, 2014, 03:19:18 PM
If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?

Won't he need bodyguards asap?

Yeah he will need bodyguards. But he won't use his bitcoin because that will blow his cover for sure. So it's one of those go to the grave with your secrets kind of situations.

I feel really bad for Satoshi. He seems like a decent guy and obviously brilliant.



Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: dreamspark on March 06, 2014, 03:19:29 PM
There are a lot of people with a lot more money than him who seem to be able to live without constant fear!

The real question is, how can we help the poor guy if its not him?


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: Cryddit on March 06, 2014, 03:20:52 PM
If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?


Did I  miss a news story?  Whom are we talking about here?



Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: mskryxz on March 06, 2014, 03:21:49 PM
Yeah, why do you go and bodyguard him. You owe the man your existance.  ::)

After you find something worth living for, sometimes the next step is to find something worth dying for.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: coins101 on March 06, 2014, 03:22:08 PM
If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?


Did I  miss a news story?  Whom are we talking about here?



Satoshi is Satoshi.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: kthejung on March 06, 2014, 03:24:11 PM
People can probably help him by staying out of his life.  However, if he wants that, he would have to publicly give away most of his bitcoins to charity or etc.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: RodeoX on March 06, 2014, 03:35:44 PM
Unfortunately he lives in CA. That is going to make body guarding him difficult. You can't even carry a gun in that backwards state. A law not obeyed by criminals.
Or maybe he does not need help? We don't actually know if Satoshi owns any bitcoins, though it seems likely.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: escrow.ms on March 06, 2014, 03:37:23 PM
Unfortunately he lives in CA. That is going to make body guarding him difficult. You can't even carry a gun in that backwards state. A law not obeyed by criminals.
Or maybe he does not need help? We don't actually know if Satoshi owns any bitcoins, though it seems likely.

He's a 64 years old guy, I doubt he care's about body guards.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: Cryddit on March 06, 2014, 03:37:29 PM
So, a quick google search later, we get....  

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10680492/Has-Bitcoin-creator-Satoshi-Nakamoto-been-found.html

If Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto is in fact the man behind the original code, then he's not who I thought it was.  There is at least one other person who had the time, skills, and motivation to have done it, and I don't see any specifically crypto background for this guy.  OTOH, being both the son of a Buddhist priest and someone who's worked in the defense industry would explain certain aspects of our "Satoshi's" personality.  Karma's a bitch, as they say.

I can't claim that it isn't him, but I sure as heck wouldn't take it at face value that he is, either.  

The good news is that our Satoshi hasn't done anything overtly asshole with his money or power, and he's stayed out of the public eye, so the odds of a random assassin going after this Satoshi are actually fairly slim.  


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: Bill Bisco on March 06, 2014, 04:01:15 PM
The man has the private keys to bitcoins worth hundreds of millions of dollars.  He is absolutely at risk.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: HorseCoin on March 06, 2014, 04:01:59 PM
he's a libertarian.  so he don't need help   8)


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: gollum on March 06, 2014, 04:08:54 PM
If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?

Won't he need bodyguards asap?
Don't ask what we can do for Satoshi,
Ask Satoshi what he can do for the goxxed, zhoutonged and flexcoined :)


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: cr1776 on March 06, 2014, 04:13:12 PM
he's a libertarian.  so he don't need help   8)

Unfortunately that only works if the bad guys accept the same "only use force in response" concept.  ;-)


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: pozmu on March 06, 2014, 04:15:57 PM
I hope that Newseek gave him enough time to hide somewhere...
His whole family would need protection.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: Cryddit on March 06, 2014, 04:16:51 PM
The man has the private keys to bitcoins worth hundreds of millions of dollars.  He is absolutely at risk.

True.  He's at risk from thieves and extortionists, certainly.  Probably not assassins. 


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: DubFX on March 06, 2014, 04:18:20 PM
If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?

Won't he need bodyguards asap?
Don't ask what we can do for Satoshi,
Ask Satoshi what he can do for the goxxed, zhoutonged and flexcoined :)
I'll answer you...how could you think he could do anything with it?


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: bitpop on March 06, 2014, 04:22:28 PM
He has guns and knows a lot about them


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: Lauda on March 06, 2014, 04:28:50 PM
Unfortunately he lives in CA. That is going to make body guarding him difficult. You can't even carry a gun in that backwards state. A law not obeyed by criminals.
Or maybe he does not need help? We don't actually know if Satoshi owns any bitcoins, though it seems likely.
Seems like a easy target for a $400M theft? If he does hold them.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: gollum on March 06, 2014, 04:29:27 PM
Unfortunately he lives in CA. That is going to make body guarding him difficult. You can't even carry a gun in that backwards state. A law not obeyed by criminals.
Or maybe he does not need help? We don't actually know if Satoshi owns any bitcoins, though it seems likely.
Seems like a easy target for a $400M theft? If he does hold them.
People get robbed for a fraction of that money... sometimes even for hundred bucks


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: Lauda on March 06, 2014, 04:34:10 PM
Seems like a easy target for a $400M theft? If he does hold them.
People get robbed for a fraction of that money... sometimes even for hundred bucks
This is why the guy is in trouble.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: drawingthesun on March 06, 2014, 04:37:41 PM
Seems like a easy target for a $400M theft? If he does hold them.
People get robbed for a fraction of that money... sometimes even for hundred bucks
This is why the guy is in trouble.

Beyond trouble.

If true he might have the highest concentration of easy to access/steal wealth on the planet.

Where else can you kidnap someone and force them to reveal a passcode to move $400,000,000 across the world?

There are no other targets for such a easy take that cannot be reversed. This is insane.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: gollum on March 06, 2014, 04:39:34 PM
Seems like a easy target for a $400M theft? If he does hold them.
People get robbed for a fraction of that money... sometimes even for hundred bucks
This is why the guy is in trouble.

Beyond trouble.

If true he might have the highest concentration of easy to access/steal wealth on the planet.

Where else can you kidnap someone and force them to reveal a passcode to move $400,000,000 across the world?

There are no other targets for such a easy take that cannot be reversed. This is insane.
Exactly, with fiat or gold you would physically need to move the money you robbed which is a lot more difficult when we talk about 400 million dollars, or about 9 metric tonnes of gold.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: drawingthesun on March 06, 2014, 04:50:32 PM
Exactly, with fiat or gold you would physically need to move the money you robbed which is a lot more difficult when we talk about 400 million dollars, or about 9 metric tonnes of gold.

Even compared to stealing paper stocks/bonds it's not the same. A low net worth millionaire could pay someone who is poor in russia to come over and get the keys and then kill himself. The poor guy sends the bitcoin to an address before committing suicide.

What just happened? Well now the poor guys family get some money and the millionaire is now a potential billionaire. This original millionaire could have even threatened the poor guys family.

Anyway, there is no need to escape the country or state with a ton of paper bonds. It's all gone in seconds.

Also it's better than stealing money via wire transfer. A lot of rich people (even gates) don't have $400,000,000 in cash waiting for a long drawn out potentially reversible wire transfer.

I am not exaggerating, this guy is in for some crazy trouble. And if Bitcoin keeps going up this location will become a prime target for all criminal masterminds.



Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: BitOnyx on March 06, 2014, 04:55:38 PM
He is Satoshi, but he is not THE Satoshi.

There are no evidences and this article is bulling some old dude after a stroke.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: acoindr on March 06, 2014, 05:09:29 PM
The sad thing is whether or not this is Bitcoin's Satoshi, he would be in the same amount of danger. It's coincidentally like money, where if enough people believe it, it becomes de facto true.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: gollum on March 06, 2014, 05:14:55 PM
The sad thing is whether or not this is Bitcoin's Satoshi, he would be in the same amount of danger. It's coincidentally like money, where if enough people believe it, it becomes de facto true.
Newsweek should employ a bodyguard for him after this stupid article.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: Joshuar on March 06, 2014, 05:30:54 PM
If this isn't the real Satoshi(which I think it is), then he's screwed, and if possible, I hope he can sue Newsweek..

If this is the real Satoshi, and he has all million Bitcoins in his possesion, then I say, deposit all of it to Fiat, pay for 100 bodyguards and move to Cheyenne Mountain. Cause there are some loco Bitcoiners out there, not to mention crooks.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: Paashaas on March 06, 2014, 05:43:24 PM
This Satoshi media frenzy is a sett-up to lure the real one out from his shelter.



Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: MiningSensei on March 06, 2014, 05:52:37 PM
I feel bad for him.  If he has a plan, Im sure it has already been put into action.  I also doubt that someone can simply rob or hack him of the coins/wallet.  From what the article said he is extremely cautious and over-the-top security with everything.  Id like to think that he has them set up somehow to only pass down to his kids :)


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: gollum on March 06, 2014, 06:06:36 PM
This Satoshi media frenzy is a sett-up to lure the real one out from his shelter.
The real ones in plural is probably sitting in their office at NSA and laughing at this story.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: kthejung on March 06, 2014, 07:04:57 PM
He is Satoshi, but he is not THE Satoshi.

There are no evidences and this article is bulling some old dude after a stroke.

"bulling some old dude after a stroke"  -exactly what I thought too. 


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: BittBurger on March 06, 2014, 07:07:23 PM
Unfortunately he lives in CA. That is going to make body guarding him difficult. You can't even carry a gun in that backwards state.

Can't even carry a bazooka either.  Or a hand grenade.  Or chemical weapons for hunting purposes.  Damn.  What a backwards state.  How's a guy supposed to go on a school shooting with such backwards laws?

Damn.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: mgburks77 on March 06, 2014, 07:13:42 PM
I doubt the guy is in any danger with the publicity.

Is someone going to kidnap him in front of a bunch of reporters and shit? If someone did anything to him they would get busted instantly.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: gielbier on March 06, 2014, 07:16:57 PM
To be fair;
He is not Satoshi, but he might need some community help.

The naming and shaming done by newsweek paints a great bullseye on him ( Innocent dude, remember that).
But even that he is not our Satoshi, we need should let everyone know: He is under community protection from now on.



Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: mgburks77 on March 06, 2014, 07:20:42 PM
I don't think anyone is saying the guy did anything wrong and I doubt he wants anything to do with any "community protection".



Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: Cryptopher on March 06, 2014, 07:38:58 PM
The message I got from the article was that the only thing that he had to actually lose (assuming that his private keys etc are stored in a super safe place) is his privacy - which this article has completely blown out of the water, regardless of whether he is the Satoshi Nakamoto.

I mean his health is apparently not so great, he is disconnected from his family, his Bitcoins are probably secured, possible even inaccessible. The only thing he seems to want is the privacy to go about the things he wants to do.

I've no doubt made some assumptions in saying this but, to me, anything he had to lose, he has already lost thanks to this article.

His family could be in danger though, who knows. Hope that he and his family remain safe.


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: S4VV4S on March 06, 2014, 07:58:25 PM
To be fair;
He is not Satoshi, but he might need some community help.

The naming and shaming done by newsweek paints a great bullseye on him ( Innocent dude, remember that).
But even that he is not our Satoshi, we need should let everyone know: He is under community protection from now on.



Glad to hear you say that.
Since he is under community protection then we should ALL donate some BTC to protect him.

Did anybody even try to make a such statement?

This will definitely give some food for thoughts for the ones who are trying to crush Bitcoin.

What do we say?: [quotes Gandalf the Gray (at the time)]
Thou shall not pass!


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: gielbier on March 06, 2014, 08:05:36 PM
To be fair;
He is not Satoshi, but he might need some community help.

The naming and shaming done by newsweek paints a great bullseye on him ( Innocent dude, remember that).
But even that he is not our Satoshi, we need should let everyone know: He is under community protection from now on.



Glad to hear you say that.
Since he is under community protection then we should ALL donate some BTC to protect him.

Did anybody even try to make a such statement?

This will definitely give some food for thoughts for the ones who are trying to crush Bitcoin.

What do we say?: [quotes Gandalf the Gray (at the time)]
Thou shall not pass!


Let's get one of the more senior members on the forum to provide adresses.
I'll donate. This shit is just retarded. Some guy, named Satoshi, gets in a lot of shit because one news agency claims he is 'the' Satoshi. Well, he is not, and got a bulleye painted on him. If I could donate some BTC, and some trusted forum member could provide an adress. And with that BTC, just hire a security detail to post at his house. The dude needs protection from now on, let's provide some. (If anyone is in the general area, and is willing to make connections a priv. security company, Please do!)


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: S4VV4S on March 06, 2014, 08:12:08 PM
To be fair;
He is not Satoshi, but he might need some community help.

The naming and shaming done by newsweek paints a great bullseye on him ( Innocent dude, remember that).
But even that he is not our Satoshi, we need should let everyone know: He is under community protection from now on.



Glad to hear you say that.
Since he is under community protection then we should ALL donate some BTC to protect him.

Did anybody even try to make a such statement?

This will definitely give some food for thoughts for the ones who are trying to crush Bitcoin.

What do we say?: [quotes Gandalf the Gray (at the time)]
Thou shall not pass!


Let's get one of the more senior members on the forum to provide adresses.
I'll donate. This shit is just retarded. Some guy, named Satoshi, gets in a lot of shit because one news agency claims he is 'the' Satoshi. Well, he is not, and got a bulleye painted on him. If I could donate some BTC, and some trusted forum member could provide an adress. And with that BTC, just hire a security detail to post at his house. The dude needs protection from now on, let's provide some. (If anyone is in the general area, and is willing to make connections a priv. security company, Please do!)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=504344.0

I AM LOOKING FOR A SENIOR OR HERO MEMBER TO HELP ME ON THIS.

This guy will get in trouble, and if we don't respond quick then we do not deserve the Satoshis we have.
Simple!


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: Lauda on March 08, 2014, 03:14:34 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=504344.0

I AM LOOKING FOR A SENIOR OR HERO MEMBER TO HELP ME ON THIS.

This guy will get in trouble, and if we don't respond quick then we do not deserve the Satoshis we have.
Simple!
You called?


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: S4VV4S on March 08, 2014, 03:37:12 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=504344.0

I AM LOOKING FOR A SENIOR OR HERO MEMBER TO HELP ME ON THIS.

This guy will get in trouble, and if we don't respond quick then we do not deserve the Satoshis we have.
Simple!
You called?

Yep, but apparently Andreas is on it....


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: vnvizow on March 08, 2014, 04:09:11 PM
We can get a Spartacus thing going to confuse major media but I doubt Dorian is Satoshi


Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: S4VV4S on March 08, 2014, 05:01:59 PM
We can get a Spartacus thing going to confuse major media but I doubt Dorian is Satoshi

Me 2.
That's why I said we need to fundraise and protect this guy.



Title: Re: If that really is Satoshi, how can we help him?
Post by: rohan1 on March 08, 2014, 05:41:04 PM
Only he can protect himself,just keep on denying any relation with BTC.