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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: ICOEthics on October 01, 2018, 11:28:40 PM



Title: Ciervo Trade - SCAM - Plagiarism
Post by: ICOEthics on October 01, 2018, 11:28:40 PM
What happened: Plagiarized Whitepaper

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5029189.0
https://archive.is/kbR9n

Scammer website: https://ciervo.trade/
https://archive.is/rs5iZ


There are 51 pages on their whitepaper.
We researched up to page 14 and everything is pretty much a copy and paste from other projects - PLAGIARISM

Whitepaper: https://download.ciervo.trade/CEO-Crowdsale-Contribution.pdf
Archived inside our website: http://icoethics.com/imgs/ciervo/ciervowp.pdf


http://icoethics.com/imgs/ciervo/plg1.JPG
http://icoethics.com/imgs/ciervo/plg2.JPG
http://icoethics.com/imgs/ciervo/plg4.JPG
http://icoethics.com/imgs/ciervo/plg5.JPG
http://icoethics.com/imgs/ciervo/plg6.JPG
http://icoethics.com/imgs/ciervo/plg7.JPG
http://icoethics.com/imgs/ciervo/plg8.JPG
http://icoethics.com/imgs/ciervo/plg9.JPG

Sources:
intro - https://melina.catulize.de/  (coinzai)
abstract: https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-whitepaper-164dd6ca6a23
https://archive.is/rs5iZ
global misión - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3366473  (coinzai)
executive: https://cryptocoinpravda.com/ubcoin-marketplace-3.html
executive: https://static.expertoption.com/ico/eo-whitepaper.pdf
problem: https://cryptocoinpravda.com/ubcoin-exchange-cryptocurrency-for-real-good.html
vision: https://cryptocoinpravda.com/ubcoin-exchange-cryptocurrency-for-real-good.html
vision: https://cryptocoinpravda.com/ubcoin-exchange-cryptocurrency-for-real-good.html




Title: Re: Ciervo Trade - SCAM - Plagiarism
Post by: SFR10 on October 02, 2018, 02:10:06 PM
Since they also plagiarized their "announcement thread (https://archive.fo/mFiRS#selection-695.0-737.42)", I suggest to report them on "Report plagiarism (copy/pasting) here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.0)":


- 1st paragraph was taken from the "second image source (https://archive.fo/ZZIdS/967310a150361838e4f7ab385b923f4129404870)" that you posted.
- 2nd paragraph was taken from "here (1st & 2nd paragraph) (https://ititaniumcoin.com/)".
- 3rd paragraph was taken from "here (the original content was on atrox's website but it's inaccessible) (https://archive.fo/Chszb#selection-509.0-511.78)".


Title: Re: Ciervo Trade - SCAM - Plagiarism
Post by: ciervochain on October 03, 2018, 02:16:46 AM
Well.. if there are similarities in the words in the white paper, we will fix everything.
but we never felt take or cheating on someone else's project, we immediately fixed it and sent the correct link to this page.
thank you


Title: Re: Ciervo Trade - SCAM - Plagiarism
Post by: SFR10 on October 03, 2018, 03:56:10 AM
Well.. if there are similarities in the words in the white paper, we will fix everything.
By what? Copying from someone else?
- No, thanks...

but we never felt take or cheating on someone else's project,
So you think it's perfectly fine to copy someone else's content (from different projects) and pass it as your own project? ???

You're just presenting a fake product.
- On top of that, "none of the ratings exists (https://archive.is/rs5iZ#selection-669.0-704.5)".


Title: Re: Ciervo Trade - SCAM - Plagiarism
Post by: marlboroza on October 03, 2018, 02:12:32 PM
Well.. if there are similarities in the words in the white paper, we will fix everything.
but we never felt take or cheating on someone else's project, we immediately fixed it and sent the correct link to this page.
thank you
It is not the way it works, Pinocchio.

This is blatant plagiarism and stealing other peoples ideas and words, there is nothing real in your fake project. You didn't even bother to reveal name(s) of founders but you want to run exchange or whatever you want to run. So who are you?
Quote
Investors do not trade in the market directly. Instead, investors transfer their funds to experienced traders who manage the funds for them. Investors get their shares from their managers’ profits
Who are these experienced traders you mentioned in your whitepaper? List them all.



Title: Re: Ciervo Trade - SCAM - Plagiarism
Post by: magneto on October 03, 2018, 11:55:02 PM
Well.. if there are similarities in the words in the white paper, we will fix everything.
but we never felt take or cheating on someone else's project, we immediately fixed it and sent the correct link to this page.
thank you

If you know that you did nothing wrong, why are you fixing anything?

THat simply doesn't make sense. You clearly understand that this is plagiarism, not only is that in itself immoral and unethical and probably would break some copyright laws in certain countries, it also proves that you are a complete scam of a project.

Only when you have no experience or real development to speak of would anyone resort to plagiarism, and this is what you've done.

Also, please let us know where your team is at and what members they compose of, and what experience they've got. Either way though, I think it's safe to label your project as a fraud.