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Economy => Gambling discussion => Topic started by: avikz on October 02, 2018, 08:25:51 PM



Title: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: avikz on October 02, 2018, 08:25:51 PM
If you are already playing PUBG, it needs no introduction. But if you are new, PUGB is an online arena fighting game available on Various platforms like android, iOS and Xbox.

It has become an internet sensation and the game has captured attention of a lot of youth in my country including me.

Suddenly someone forwarded me a link to a common whatsapp group which is mainly a competition that involves winning based on your gaming skill. The rule is simple,

1. You need to register by paying 20 rupees through paytm
2. You will get invitation to join a group
3. For each kill, you will get 15 rupees
4. Upload screenshot as proof
5. Receive money in paytm after each game

Link: https://www.toornament.com/games/pubg_mobile (I am not the owner of this link, nor I have played any game through their group, so I won't take any responsibility if you loose your money)

Does anyone know about any similar platform where people can do the same using cryptos?

If someone creates such tournament for PUBG for crypto payments, would you be interested? If yes, what will be a convenient entry fees for you?


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: leowonderful on October 02, 2018, 09:31:29 PM
I haven't personally bet on PUBG before, mostly because cheaters may possibly be a problem even if there's anticheat besides the game anticheat working, and in the case of tournament match betting, there aren't many places where you can bet on PUBG matches. I've only been able to find one site that offers betting on PUBG matches, and that's GG.bet with very few matches posted. PUBG isn't a terribly popular eSport with few major tournaments, performance issues and such, and there are many more games I like to bet on such as CS:GO, even though I do like playing the game and I'm near the top 1% in squads and solo FPP. Also seems like these tournaments are only for mobile, which I don't play and have never had a good experience in.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: crwth on October 03, 2018, 01:29:38 AM
I didn’t know that something like this existed or even possible like why are you going to get paid if you kill a player in the game? I have known a lot of people playing it but not entirely sure with getting paid with it unless you are a streamer with a lot of views.  One thing I could think of is that the one who is paying the killers is A part of the game, like making it easier than killing them at the end. Making it a sure win, chicken dinner.

I don’t know if there are similar platforms Or there are, but still, I don’t know about them maybe it’s not yet that established with using cryptocurrencies. I think if There were a tournament for PUBG, I would be comfortable with five dollars I guess since I’m not a professional or a competitive player.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: Juggy777 on October 03, 2018, 07:34:24 AM
If you are already playing PUBG, it needs no introduction. But if you are new, PUGB is an online arena fighting game available on Various platforms like android, iOS and Xbox.

It has become an internet sensation and the game has captured attention of a lot of youth in my country including me.

Suddenly someone forwarded me a link to a common whatsapp group which is mainly a competition that involves winning based on your gaming skill. The rule is simple,

1. You need to register by paying 20 rupees through paytm
2. You will get invitation to join a group
3. For each kill, you will get 15 rupees
4. Upload screenshot as proof
5. Receive money in paytm after each game

Link: https://www.toornament.com/games/pubg_mobile (I am not the owner of this link, nor I have played any game through their group, so I won't take any responsibility if you loose your money)

Does anyone know about any similar platform where people can do the same using cryptos?

If someone creates such tournament for PUBG for crypto payments, would you be interested? If yes, what will be a convenient entry fees for you?

It's true Pubg has captured the worlds attention, but I would not join this group or any kind of groups as it has scam written all over it. I haven't come across any platform that gives odds for this, but I doubt platforms shall give odds as I had read a while back there were many cheating incidents reported. Though it's pertinent to note they claimed they fixed it, I yet believe cheating is possible and it happens in this game. So in my personal opinion I would not join a tournament for this type of game, and others too shall avoid it.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: avikz on October 03, 2018, 08:59:45 AM
I didn’t know that something like this existed or even possible like why are you going to get paid if you kill a player in the game?

It's a simple business equation mate! The organizer will be getting 5 rupees profit from each player. Look at the below calculation,

Registration fees: 20 INR
Registered people: 50 nos.
Total fund pool: (50 X 20) = 1000 INR
Pay for each kill: 15 INR
Maximum people can be killed: 49
Max payout: (49 X 15) = 735

Net profit to the organizer: 265 INR

So the organizer gets 26.5% profit from each game. That's a very profitable business opportunity! But for crypto, the major percentage of the profit will be eaten out by the transaction fees!


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: SyGambler on October 03, 2018, 09:46:15 AM
to be honest I really like this concept and hope someone trusted here in the forums can start organizing such games for PUBG and CSGO
there is always a high probability of playing with cheaters but if we can organize something similar with the well known people here in the forums that would be nice and most likely fair
also the fee is so damn high with the group you are talking about , 5% is more than reasonable for the organizer so one kill should pay 19 instead of 15

 


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: Thekool1s on October 03, 2018, 10:58:36 AM
A unique concept but most importantly a profitable one. The only problem I see with this concept is of validation. Screenshots can be engineered easily, It isn't the best way to validate kills if the match wasn't recorded or streamed. Also, Do the participants play against random people and upload their screenshots? Cuz, as far as I know, PUBG doesn't allow users to create custom matches. So participants playing against each other isn't an option. This could be done for games like CSGO where participants can play against each other, Making it a true "Tournament" of sorts.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: hahay on October 03, 2018, 01:18:02 PM
Wow, this is great, I'm sure there will be people who will be willing to make this in crypto if there is a high demand, because I personally am also a fan of this game, PUBG. Maybe we can make it with a low entry fee so everyone can join if there will indeed be participants who have a high interest in this tournament. Besides that we must have special rules and requirements to be able to join, because each tier has different difficulties etc.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: orions.belt19 on October 03, 2018, 01:30:17 PM
I didn’t know that something like this existed or even possible like why are you going to get paid if you kill a player in the game? I have known a lot of people playing it but not entirely sure with getting paid with it unless you are a streamer with a lot of views.  One thing I could think of is that the one who is paying the killers is A part of the game, like making it easier than killing them at the end. Making it a sure win, chicken dinner.

I don’t know if there are similar platforms Or there are, but still, I don’t know about them maybe it’s not yet that established with using cryptocurrencies. I think if There were a tournament for PUBG, I would be comfortable with five dollars I guess since I’m not a professional or a competitive player.

I don’t think that would be the goal of setting up a tournament such as that. I don’t see the point of paying others to kill off other players so you could win the game? I think that this is done to add additional thrill to the game. You would surely put into more effort of winning and getting more kills if money was involved. I’d be open to this kind of idea and personally I would prefer payments in btc or eth however, I think that this would be prone to cheating by hackers.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: coinplus on October 03, 2018, 06:08:51 PM
I was hoping something more like betting on the esports of pubg so we can bet on people like shroud or drdisrespect and all that when there is a big pubg tournament going on. Was not expecting to play myself to make money, this game is sucking so if I ever got into something like this I would totally lose money and not make anything in return.

If anyone knows any pubg betting on other people for esports gambling that would be much better suited for someone like me. I would not trust a random game and people who play to not use cheats to take my money. How would I know there is no insider that does this and take our money.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: carlfebz2 on October 03, 2018, 07:35:04 PM
I didn’t know that something like this existed or even possible like why are you going to get paid if you kill a player in the game?

It's a simple business equation mate! The organizer will be getting 5 rupees profit from each player. Look at the below calculation,

Registration fees: 20 INR
Registered people: 50 nos.
Total fund pool: (50 X 20) = 1000 INR
Pay for each kill: 15 INR
Maximum people can be killed: 49
Max payout: (49 X 15) = 735

Net profit to the organizer: 265 INR

So the organizer gets 26.5% profit from each game. That's a very profitable business opportunity! But for crypto, the major percentage of the profit will be eaten out by the transaction fees!
Bolded part!

Thast the reason why we don't still saw a kind of tournament arrangement based on crypto due to that thing. Price swings can really lead out to non profitability of the organizer itself.
For Fiat then it would be normally available due to the fact they can some ensure their profits without worrying about volatility.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: mostkey on October 03, 2018, 08:19:37 PM
PUBG is currently very popular among teenagers, because being one of the games that gives a tremendous sensation, but to make PUBG as gambling, I am quite interested, because this will be a very tense sensation,
if possible if there is a link that leads us to crypto payments, I am very interested in following it


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: avikz on October 03, 2018, 08:27:00 PM
I didn’t know that something like this existed or even possible like why are you going to get paid if you kill a player in the game?

It's a simple business equation mate! The organizer will be getting 5 rupees profit from each player. Look at the below calculation,

Registration fees: 20 INR
Registered people: 50 nos.
Total fund pool: (50 X 20) = 1000 INR
Pay for each kill: 15 INR
Maximum people can be killed: 49
Max payout: (49 X 15) = 735

Net profit to the organizer: 265 INR

So the organizer gets 26.5% profit from each game. That's a very profitable business opportunity! But for crypto, the major percentage of the profit will be eaten out by the transaction fees!
Bolded part!

Thast the reason why we don't still saw a kind of tournament arrangement based on crypto due to that thing. Price swings can really lead out to non profitability of the organizer itself.
For Fiat then it would be normally available due to the fact they can some ensure their profits without worrying about volatility.

Correct! But if the dollar value is not taken into consideration and only the crypto units are considered, then it can make some sense! For example,

The registration fees: 0.005 btc (doesn't matter what the dollar value of it)
Reward for each kill: 0.003 btc

If a player can make 2 kills, he will be in profit. Also I know some wallet allows to send multiple transactions in one go. If the organizer uses that, he will still remain profitable!


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: YuginKadoya on October 03, 2018, 09:01:51 PM
I never thought such things exist that betting with PUBG would be possible and I am saying this because of the number of cheaters in that game, I really think this will be considered as a null because you can never know when a cheater may lurk inside the game,

But I really think considering the continues updated of the game they can fix this kind of issues because right now there are still many issues of using cheats and mostly I think most of them are using an emulator on PC's, So mobile users was not considered as a cheater or are free of cheating,

And regarding this, I am adding up the skill that is shown when using a mobile and PC are greater because I really think there is a huge advantage when a player is using an emulator with PC considering the use of mobile devices.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: carlfebz2 on October 03, 2018, 09:39:29 PM
I didn’t know that something like this existed or even possible like why are you going to get paid if you kill a player in the game?

It's a simple business equation mate! The organizer will be getting 5 rupees profit from each player. Look at the below calculation,

Registration fees: 20 INR
Registered people: 50 nos.
Total fund pool: (50 X 20) = 1000 INR
Pay for each kill: 15 INR
Maximum people can be killed: 49
Max payout: (49 X 15) = 735

Net profit to the organizer: 265 INR

So the organizer gets 26.5% profit from each game. That's a very profitable business opportunity! But for crypto, the major percentage of the profit will be eaten out by the transaction fees!
Bolded part!

Thast the reason why we don't still saw a kind of tournament arrangement based on crypto due to that thing. Price swings can really lead out to non profitability of the organizer itself.
For Fiat then it would be normally available due to the fact they can some ensure their profits without worrying about volatility.

Correct! But if the dollar value is not taken into consideration and only the crypto units are considered, then it can make some sense! For example,

The registration fees: 0.005 btc (doesn't matter what the dollar value of it)
Reward for each kill: 0.003 btc

If a player can make 2 kills, he will be in profit. Also I know some wallet allows to send multiple transactions in one go. If the organizer uses that, he will still remain profitable!
If its crypto price or amount is fixed then that would be a good one and it would be interesting is someone here would organize such event.Making 2 kills would already give your profit and I do already imagine
the pressure on playing this kind of tournament  because if you got killed without kills then say goodbye to your money. ;D


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: crwth on October 03, 2018, 11:30:32 PM
I didn’t know that something like this existed or even possible like why are you going to get paid if you kill a player in the game?

It's a simple business equation mate! The organizer will be getting 5 rupees profit from each player. Look at the below calculation,

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So the organizer gets 26.5% profit from each game. That's a very profitable business opportunity! But for crypto, the major percentage of the profit will be eaten out by the transaction fees!
Wow. I just read this and how unbelievably easy it is for them to do that. I think it is easy to organize it now. A lot of people have Their way. You don't even have to have computers (if we're talking about mobile or just playing it online. Thanks for answering it btw.



@SyGambler I do hope someone organizes a gaming tournament here or something, but it would be hard since it would be on different time zones or something.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: kurian on October 04, 2018, 02:58:26 AM
I didn’t know that something like this existed or even possible like why are you going to get paid if you kill a player in the game?

It's a simple business equation mate! The organizer will be getting 5 rupees profit from each player. Look at the below calculation,

Registration fees: 20 INR
Registered people: 50 nos.
Total fund pool: (50 X 20) = 1000 INR
Pay for each kill: 15 INR
Maximum people can be killed: 49
Max payout: (49 X 15) = 735

Net profit to the organizer: 265 INR

So the organizer gets 26.5% profit from each game. That's a very profitable business opportunity! But for crypto, the major percentage of the profit will be eaten out by the transaction fees!

I heard that the game is very addictive. My friends play this often. I thought the game works in team mode. That's why this got me confused. So, the 50 people that joined kill each other right? If that is the case it is profitable. As it is a an addictive game this would be a great idea to make some money. Adding crypto payments would bring more people to using virtual currencies.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: btctalk4life on October 04, 2018, 05:26:26 AM
I didn’t know that something like this existed or even possible like why are you going to get paid if you kill a player in the game?

It's a simple business equation mate! The organizer will be getting 5 rupees profit from each player. Look at the below calculation,

Registration fees: 20 INR
Registered people: 50 nos.
Total fund pool: (50 X 20) = 1000 INR
Pay for each kill: 15 INR
Maximum people can be killed: 49
Max payout: (49 X 15) = 735

Net profit to the organizer: 265 INR

So the organizer gets 26.5% profit from each game. That's a very profitable business opportunity! But for crypto, the major percentage of the profit will be eaten out by the transaction fees!

I heard that the game is very addictive. My friends play this often. I thought the game works in team mode. That's why this got me confused. So, the 50 people that joined kill each other right? If that is the case it is profitable. As it is a an addictive game this would be a great idea to make some money. Adding crypto payments would bring more people to using virtual currencies.
It is very addictive, i also playing PUBG on steam and it's good for fun. On PC/steam it's 100 people in 1 map and kill each others, depends on which mode you choose though.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: supermine on October 04, 2018, 05:57:03 AM
I played PUBG before with my friend but I never bet on this game and also I never heard of betting platform for these kind of games in crypto,maybe we can do it by private organising but the value of the crytos are volatile are getting more so it will be a problem to make profits even if we win that games.But if a website ca make crypto betting for these kind of games then it will be real entertainment in this modern world.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: maydna on October 04, 2018, 06:47:13 AM
I don't play this game since I am not too often playing any game on my android phone because I think my android will become too slow after I played any game. But if you played this game, be careful because any games will make you addicted and you will only want to play the game and forget about your daily works. I see that we are getting paid by killing each other in that game, but I hope that this game is for adult people because I am sure that the kids are playing this game too.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: eternalgloom on October 04, 2018, 08:40:01 AM
I also had no idea that you could even bet on this game. Are there actual competitions with professional gamers, like you see with CS;GO/Starcraft/Etc?
Couldn't really find any other websites offering it, so I reckon gambling on it must not be that popular.

Or am I missing something here?


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: crwth on October 04, 2018, 08:59:28 AM
I also had no idea that you could even bet on this game. Are there actual competitions with professional gamers, like you see with CS;GO/Starcraft/Etc?
Couldn't really find any other websites offering it, so I reckon gambling on it must not be that popular.

Or am I missing something here?
Are you ready to stop from your break? @eternalgloom Kidding. I think you're not missing anything.

I was surprised too, competitive competitions with PUBG would mean a lot of players and a lot of people be spectating. I haven't tried searching for it but I think there would be a lot of players to watch from (from a point of view of a viewer). I think the popularity of betting on it is really hard to find, probably just with other people and no actual site accepts it.



Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: btctalk4life on October 04, 2018, 09:40:35 AM
I also had no idea that you could even bet on this game. Are there actual competitions with professional gamers, like you see with CS;GO/Starcraft/Etc?
Couldn't really find any other websites offering it, so I reckon gambling on it must not be that popular.

Or am I missing something here?

There are actual competitions with professional gamers like you see on Dota2, CS;GO and LoL. Actually you can bet too on this esports match.


Title: Re: Anyone betting on PUBG?
Post by: avikz on October 06, 2018, 03:49:53 PM
I also had no idea that you could even bet on this game. Are there actual competitions with professional gamers, like you see with CS;GO/Starcraft/Etc?
Couldn't really find any other websites offering it, so I reckon gambling on it must not be that popular.

Or am I missing something here?
Are you ready to stop from your break? @eternalgloom Kidding. I think you're not missing anything.

I was surprised too, competitive competitions with PUBG would mean a lot of players and a lot of people be spectating. I haven't tried searching for it but I think there would be a lot of players to watch from (from a point of view of a viewer). I think the popularity of betting on it is really hard to find, probably just with other people and no actual site accepts it.


It's not the kind of betting that you are thinking here in PUBG! Here the players are betting on their own capability. There is no third party betting on any player here! It's very simple, you pay 20 bucks for registration and receive 15 bucks for each kill you complete in the game. Your stats are visible after the game and the organizers will verify it after each game and pay you back.

From the organizers point of view, it is hugely profitable venture. From each game the profitability is 26.5% on each game!