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Title: Evolution of rank names
Post by: jackg on October 03, 2018, 04:12:52 PM
Did satohsi decide the rank names or have they been done individually since then?
Also, has it always been Brand new, newbie, jr member, member, full member, sr member, hero member and legendary member or were there any changes along the way in order to reach this? (Reason I ask is that the 'full member' rank title to me always looks a bit out of place and trange in comparison to all of the other rank titles)?


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: r1s2g3 on October 03, 2018, 04:17:53 PM
Did satohsi decide the rank names or have they been done individually since then?
Also, has it always been Brand new, newbie, jr member, member, full member, sr member, hero member and legendary member or were there any changes along the way in order to reach this? (Reason I ask is that the 'full member' rank title to me always looks a bit out of place and trange in comparison to all of the other rank titles)?


Actually "Full Member" Rank was in place when Theymos decided , that he need one more rank between Jr.Member and Full Member rank. So he created the "Member" Rank. Sounds weird but it is true.


Edit:

Maybe I'll add a new group between Jr. Member and Full member. What should it be called?

Maybe just... 'Member'?


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: bitsnack on October 03, 2018, 05:00:00 PM
Did satohsi decide the rank names or have they been done individually since then?
Also, has it always been Brand new, newbie, jr member, member, full member, sr member, hero member and legendary member or were there any changes along the way in order to reach this? (Reason I ask is that the 'full member' rank title to me always looks a bit out of place and trange in comparison to all of the other rank titles)?

Well, the forum software Bitcointalk currently uses: Simple Machines comes with prebuilt memberships:

Newbie
Jr. Member
Member
Full Member
Sr. Member
Hero Member


Legendary/Brand new were added on.

 :)


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: hilariousandco on October 03, 2018, 05:02:12 PM
Theymos created the Legendary rank a few years ago I believe, but can't say for certain about all the others. I wonder if we'll ever get Lamborghini Member  ;D? We're going to need another rank above Legendary eventually (if we don't already). Not sure what it should be called, but others have suggested some titles somewhere. I think the new rank should require a very high level of activity just so it sets you apart from everyone else and so that rank doesn't become too common like Legendary has now.


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: RocketSingh on October 03, 2018, 05:04:57 PM
Theymos created the Legendary rank a few years ago I believe, but can't say for certain about all the others. I wonder if we'll ever get Lamborghini Member  ;D? We're going to need another rank above Legendary eventually (if we don't already). Not sure what it should be called, but others have suggested some titles somewhere. I think the new rank should require a very high level of activity just so it sets you apart from everyone else and so that rank doesn't become too common like Legendary has now.

Legendary is not too common IMHO. Especially after merit is introduced, we will have very few legendary is coming years...


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: hilariousandco on October 03, 2018, 05:18:39 PM
It's already far too common. Any shitposter who has just been here a couple of years prior to the merit system became one and it's mostly meaningless when that happens.


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: RocketSingh on October 03, 2018, 05:21:43 PM
It's already far too common. Any shitposter who has just been here a couple of years prior to the merit system became one and it's mostly meaningless when that happens.

Is there any stat to know the number of Legendary right now on BitcoinTalk?


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: TryNinja on October 03, 2018, 05:30:07 PM
Is there any stat to know the number of Legendary right now on BitcoinTalk?
There were 2144 Legendary users based on a few stats published 2 months ago in this[1] thread. The number should be pretty much the same (with maybe just a few new Legendaries) since you need a lot of merit to rank up and it has been only 2 months.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4901670.0


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: |Admiral| on October 03, 2018, 05:32:18 PM
There is no use of brand new member. I think brand new member is necessary. Also @op probably you have forgot to mention few paid membership eg: donator, VIP, copper. Though I do not know when it was added either on beginning or after few days/months/years.

We're going to need another rank above Legendary eventually (if we don't already).
If so, few legendary will be able to go higher rank. But many legendary will be on same point for merit :D


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: jackg on October 03, 2018, 06:17:32 PM
Is there any stat to know the number of Legendary right now on BitcoinTalk?

My stats suggest 1020 legendary members who aren't wearing the copper membership (I got the number from the members search box)...

I wonder if we'll ever get Lamborghini Member  ;D?

You always say that :). Why is it that you love that Lambo thing ;) even though we already have others that surpassed it in terms of value and styles ;D

I dunno why you got demoted hilariousandco, maybe that means theymos is going to bring it in as a new membership in the next few weeks and needs you to be just a boring old copper member? ;D (or maybe he did something to the database that he couldn't fix or something :) ).

EDIT: I have decided the the members' search has a display limit of 34 boxes (probably because I used to like to do a members search of * and other wildcards when the full list wouldn't show - alright it worked but)...


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: hilariousandco on October 05, 2018, 09:36:02 AM
I wonder if we'll ever get Lamborghini Member  ;D?

You always say that :). Why is it that you love that Lambo thing ;) even though we already have others that surpassed it in terms of value and styles ;D

Because it's a meme. I don't care about Lamborghinis.

We're going to need another rank above Legendary eventually (if we don't already). Not sure what it should be called, but others have suggested some titles somewhere. I think the new rank should require a very high level of activity just so it sets you apart from everyone else and so that rank doesn't become too common like Legendary has now.

Should we have Mythical / Mythic Member that can have 2k activities with 2.5k Merits. ;D ( I just came up on idea where it was also used on Mobile Legends-Mobile Game )


People have suggested Mythical / Mythic before but I'd prefer something else. You could even bump up Legendary rank and replace it with something else. Or just require much more merit to become Legendary and demote all the others who haven't achieved that.


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: jackg on October 05, 2018, 03:01:10 PM
I wonder if we'll ever get Lamborghini Member  ;D?

You always say that :). Why is it that you love that Lambo thing ;) even though we already have others that surpassed it in terms of value and styles ;D

Because it's a meme. I don't care about Lamborghinis.

We're going to need another rank above Legendary eventually (if we don't already). Not sure what it should be called, but others have suggested some titles somewhere. I think the new rank should require a very high level of activity just so it sets you apart from everyone else and so that rank doesn't become too common like Legendary has now.

Should we have Mythical / Mythic Member that can have 2k activities with 2.5k Merits. ;D ( I just came up on idea where it was also used on Mobile Legends-Mobile Game )


People have suggested Mythical / Mythic before but I'd prefer something else. You could even bump up Legendary rank and replace it with something else. Or just require much more merit to become Legendary and demote all the others who haven't achieved that.

There won't be any good in making a new rank, much like there wasn't much good in making a member rank as satisfied didn't make it so no one will aim for it ;D.
I agree that mythical is a bad name but legendary and hero are also kinda lame too...


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: rhomelmabini on October 05, 2018, 03:07:06 PM
I was thinking or maybe theymos did. Maybe one day a silver, gold and platinum member can be bought too in this forum. Just a pure speculation though, but who knows?  :P


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: pickupcoin on October 05, 2018, 03:23:49 PM
The new rank above Legendary can be only a matter of prestige. Now almost have no any different between Hero and the Legendary member so new rank it will not change anything except for few members who would meet the conditions, they will be more influential


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on October 05, 2018, 03:29:14 PM
People have suggested Mythical / Mythic before but I'd prefer something else.
I don't know, it's not a horrible title, but it does go along the lines of Legendary in its blandness.  There have been threads about this before, but I can't recall exactly what names have been suggested and I don't recall having heard many that I was really enthusiastic about.

At one point I absolutely thought there probably should be at least one more rank above Legendary, since with time the number of Legendaries would be huge and there wouldn't be much that was special about it.  Now, with these merit requirements that are going to have noobs pulling out their hair for years, I'm not so sure about that.  Even lower-ranked members who aren't shitposters are having a hell of a time ranking up to Sr. Member or Hero, much less Legendary.  At this point a higher-ranked title means more than ever.


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: Findingnemo on October 05, 2018, 05:25:01 PM
The new rank above Legendary can be only a matter of prestige. Now almost have no any different between Hero and the Legendary member so new rank it will not change anything except for few members who would meet the conditions, they will be more influential
Actually a rank above the legendary is needed to ensure the introduction of merit system's effectiveness because as others said if someone shitposting for years will be a legendary now but if they never earned any merits since the introduction of merit system then they don't deserved to be in the top of ranks.I hope a rank above the legendary will be implemented in future which needs 2000 merits and the name of rank might be Elite member or something like that. :)


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: jackg on October 05, 2018, 08:38:00 PM
I don't know, it's not a horrible title, but it does go along the lines of Legendary in its blandness.  There have been threads about this before, but I can't recall exactly what names have been suggested and I don't recall having heard many that I was really enthusiastic about.
I think we could do with something merit related with the new rank now - but I'm not creative enough to think of anything ;D...

At one point I absolutely thought there probably should be at least one more rank above Legendary, since with time the number of Legendaries would be huge and there wouldn't be much that was special about it.  Now, with these merit requirements that are going to have noobs pulling out their hair for years, I'm not so sure about that.  Even lower-ranked members who aren't shitposters are having a hell of a time ranking up to Sr. Member or Hero, much less Legendary.  At this point a higher-ranked title means more than ever.

I was thinkin about this, it might have been nice to demote everyone a bit at the start of the merit system as I don't feel like I've earnt my rank as much as some people like Jet Cash and even others who have ranked up to legendary from 0.
It is true that people have been short-changed by the merit system and there are some users here who actually stand out quite a bit who aren't getting anywhere near the amount of merit they need for their activity (I'm sure there's a full member I have seen quite a bit in the meta section posting good quality stuff and still only on about 100 merit and 300 activity).... Unless they've only just turned good then it is quite sad to see that this is happening.


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: LoyceMobile on October 05, 2018, 08:59:17 PM
We're going to need another rank above Legendary eventually (if we don't already). Not sure what it should be called, but others have suggested some titles somewhere.
I'd say just "Legend" sounds good. Or maybe just add a bold font to the current Legendary rank.


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: jackg on October 05, 2018, 09:04:35 PM
We're going to need another rank above Legendary eventually (if we don't already). Not sure what it should be called, but others have suggested some titles somewhere.
I'd say just "Legend" sounds good. Or maybe just add a bold font to the current Legendary rank.

Actually yeah that's not a bad idea....

I noticed that if we include both of your accounts, your 2000 merit celebration was a bit late ;D


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on October 05, 2018, 09:07:27 PM
Actually yeah that's not a bad idea....
It's actually pretty good.  

Maybe they could do something with the color of those coins you get on top of your username--maybe change them to red or some other color, and perhaps make that a function of merits?  That would make users stand out from the pack.

I'd suggest that for every extra 250 merits you get another of those semi-coloured coins next to your name, ending with the legend title at 2000 merits.

Maybe also onec they come up with a design for how good people are at reporting posts (or at least how many good reports they have) we could think of something theymos would have in mind and likely accept for an additional merit coloum as a printed score takes a lot longer to look at than an icon "an image says a thousand words" can be true in this case (or at least a certain number of digits)...
Nice.  I like these suggestions even more than adding another rank.


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: jackg on October 05, 2018, 09:12:13 PM
Actually yeah that's not a bad idea....
It's actually pretty good. 

Maybe they could do something with the color of those coins you get on top of your username--maybe change them to red or some other color, and perhaps make that a function of merits?  That would make users stand out from the pack.

I'd suggest that for every extra 250 merits you get another of those semi-coloured coins next to your name, ending with the legend title at 2000 merits.

Maybe also onec they come up with a design for how good people are at reporting posts (or at least how many good reports they have) we could think of something theymos would have in mind and likely accept for an additional merit coloum as a printed score takes a lot longer to look at than an icon "an image says a thousand words" can be true in this case (or at least a certain number of digits)...


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: S_Therapist on October 05, 2018, 09:19:23 PM
Having another membership would really be good. However, in addition with merit, the next rank could have required for 500+ good reports which may help the forum a bit more. Not everyone uses the report button. Also, it will boost people to report more which will help to clean up the forum.

I think that that is the purpose of this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4742257.0
Sorry, I was not concerned about this one.


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: jackg on October 05, 2018, 09:21:20 PM
Having another membership would really be good. However, in addition with merit, the next rank could have required for 500+ good reports which may help the forum a bit more. Not everyone uses the report button. Also, it will boost people to report more which will help to clean up the forum.

I think that that is the purpose of this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4742257.0

I do have to start using the report button more. Only posts I tend to report are ones in the altcoin section and I get frustrated at all of them quite a lot because usually when you report a thread, in the time it takes to get through all the posts on the last page and report all the crappy ones, a few new pages have sprung out of the same thread...


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: hilariousetc on October 06, 2018, 11:08:21 AM
People have suggested Mythical / Mythic before but I'd prefer something else.
I don't know, it's not a horrible title, but it does go along the lines of Legendary in its blandness.  There have been threads about this before, but I can't recall exactly what names have been suggested and I don't recall having heard many that I was really enthusiastic about.

If you search 'mythical' in Meta you'll find a few. Think I proposed a couple names somewhere (though I might be getting mixed up with the donator ranks as I remember proposing few names for them).

Turns out it might have been theymos who suggested mythical:

Probably the next one would be "Mythical".

At one point I absolutely thought there probably should be at least one more rank above Legendary, since with time the number of Legendaries would be huge and there wouldn't be much that was special about it.  Now, with these merit requirements that are going to have noobs pulling out their hair for years, I'm not so sure about that.  Even lower-ranked members who aren't shitposters are having a hell of a time ranking up to Sr. Member or Hero, much less Legendary.  At this point a higher-ranked title means more than ever.

New legendaries will be very rare, especially for new users signing up and only the best of best posters will now ever achieve that status. However, there's still a hell of a lot of people who got that rank before the new system and probably a lot of low-quality contributors, and that's why I think there should be some distinction. Maybe we should demote all Legendaries who don't achieve a decent amount of merit because it means very little when all you had to do was be here a while. Maybe remove the airdropped merit from them and they're just a Hero until they've achieved the required merit. Then that rank would mean something.


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on October 06, 2018, 11:12:28 AM
Theymos created the Legendary rank a few years ago I believe, but can't say for certain about all the others. I wonder if we'll ever get Lamborghini Member  ;D? We're going to need another rank above Legendary eventually (if we don't already). Not sure what it should be called, but others have suggested some titles somewhere. I think the new rank should require a very high level of activity just so it sets you apart from everyone else and so that rank doesn't become too common like Legendary has now.

A few have mentioned a higher rank achievable by -

Activity: 2000
Merit: 2000

I’d be in favour of this because as time goes on there wioo be far too many shitty Legendary Members who were luckily bumped to 1000 Merit by theymos when the new Merit system came in.

Lambourghini Member sounds awesome :)
Or maybe P I M P ;D


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: hilariousetc on October 06, 2018, 11:52:48 AM
I've suggested before that they should just double with every rank. Makes it easier and doubling each time makes the ranks much difficult to achieve whilst keeping some standard/order. Legendary should probably become fixed at 960 and then Mythical(or whatever) at 1920. In addition you could require a hell of a lot of merit so only the best of the best posters ever achieve it. Would be nice to have some additional perks for it as well. Something like a custom title or an image banner allowed in your signature would be nice. Something to try aim/achieve, especially when Legendary doesn't even mean much (or come with any additional perks to Hero).


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: LoyceV on October 06, 2018, 02:26:36 PM
We're going to need another rank above Legendary eventually (if we don't already). Not sure what it should be called, but others have suggested some titles somewhere.
I'd say just "Legend" sounds good. Or maybe just add a bold font to the current Legendary rank.
Actually yeah that's not a bad idea....
Which one: "Legend" or "Legendary"? I prefer the former. It makes "Legendary" look like "Legend-ish" :D

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I noticed that if we include both of your accounts, your 2000 merit celebration was a bit late ;D
If you count like that, hilarious* has already beaten satoshi!

Activity: 2000
Merit: 2000
And 5 years later, when we're having the same discussion, 3000 will give you Full Legend, followed by Sr. Legend and Hero Legend :D That sounds bad :P


Title: Re: Evolution of rank names
Post by: jackg on October 06, 2018, 02:47:40 PM
We're going to need another rank above Legendary eventually (if we don't already). Not sure what it should be called, but others have suggested some titles somewhere.
I'd say just "Legend" sounds good. Or maybe just add a bold font to the current Legendary rank.
Actually yeah that's not a bad idea....
Which one: "Legend" or "Legendary"? I prefer the former. It makes "Legendary" look like "Legend-ish" :D

Quote
I noticed that if we include both of your accounts, your 2000 merit celebration was a bit late ;D
If you count like that, hilarious* has already beaten satoshi!

Activity: 2000
Merit: 2000
And 5 years later, when we're having the same discussion, 3000 will give you Full Legend, followed by Sr. Legend and Hero Legend :D That sounds bad :P

Legendary legend after that isn't a bad title though.

And I was suggesting:
...
hero
Legendary
Legend

In that order....
although adding current names wouldn't do much to annoy: Jr Legendary, Full Legendary, Sr legendary, hero legendary, legend, jr legend....

And we don't include hilariousandco here ;D. He's just an account theymos uses when he gets bored of being theymos for a while and wants to spy on his villagers ;D...