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Title: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on October 14, 2018, 06:44:12 PM
This thread is not just for the particular case below but also for such Legendaries in general as they are quite a few.

I came across yet another Legendary spamming with one-liner low effort/quality content.
For the newbies such behaviour is acceptable in the beginning as they are not so familiar with the forum but for Legendaries this should be more than clear that such content will not be tolerated.

Here is the current case > okane818 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552469)
And his post history > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552469;sa=showPosts

What type of actions will be taken against this??
Just want to know if the time spent on reporting him is worth it.

Good project, Waiting for this.

Project is good.

Nice... Good luck.

nice system.

Great project

Awesome project.

Great ideas.

nice project.

Great ideas.


Thanks


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on October 14, 2018, 06:50:29 PM
I'm assuming he's getting paid to bump threads, but who knows.  I have a hard time believing he'd write those garbage posts out of genuine enthusiasm--and yes, a legendary member ought to know better, but it's quite possible the account was bought or hacked.  There's no evidence of that being the case, but I would never rule that out.

He deserves the same consequence as any person who makes "great project" posts, which if I'm not mistaken is a ban.  It shouldn't matter what his rank is.  Also, it's no surprise he hasn't earned any merit.  It's a Legendary account, but he seems to be a zero-value member.


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: Veleor on October 14, 2018, 06:59:06 PM
Plagiarism [Reported]

Copy:
This is what I am looking for, MyCryptoBank  — is an online bank allowing any client registered in the electronic bank system to make a full range of bank operations, additional operations with cryptocurrency (payment processing, debit cards, credits and cheap investment products, use of  cryptoassets as credit security and many others) based on Blockchain technology without visit of department. This is I think under protocol of EOS.

Best regards,

Okane Satoshi
(Archive (http://archive.li/lBU7n#selection-2601.31-2601.398))

Original:
MyCryptoBank — is an online bank allowing any client registered in the electronic bank system to make a full range of bank operations, additional operations with cryptocurrency (payment processing, debit cards, credits and cheap investment products, use of cryptoassets as credit security and many others) based on Blockchain technology without visit of department.



EDIT: Another one

Copy:
ETC will going to fork this coming March 5, 2018.

Free Callisto coins for ETC coin holders

The CLO coin will have the same history as of the ETC chain but from the 5,500,000 block, the network will start creating its own. This fork is expected somewhere around March 5, 2018. The accounts with balances of Ethereum classic at block 5,500,000 at the time of launch will receive 1 Callisto token (CLO) for every ETC they hold.

Best regards


Okane Satoshi
Steward.Friendz (https://steward.friendz.io/go?r=MjM1ODQ)
Signal.Network (https://signals.network/join/9D029F)
(Archive (http://archive.li/zIrsU#selection-6273.0-6273.333))

Original:
Free Callisto coins for ETC coin holders

The CLO coin will have the same history as of the ETC chain but from the 5,500,000 block, the network will start creating its own. This fork is expected somewhere around March 5, 2018. The accounts with balances of Ethereum classic at block 5,500,000 at the time of launch will receive 1 Callisto token (CLO) for every ETC they hold.


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on October 14, 2018, 07:05:58 PM
Plagiarism [Reported]

Copy:
This is what I am looking for, MyCryptoBank  — is an online bank allowing any client registered in the electronic bank system to make a full range of bank operations, additional operations with cryptocurrency (payment processing, debit cards, credits and cheap investment products, use of  cryptoassets as credit security and many others) based on Blockchain technology without visit of department. This is I think under protocol of EOS.

Best regards,

Okane Satoshi
(Archive (http://archive.li/lBU7n#selection-2601.31-2601.398))

Original:
MyCryptoBank — is an online bank allowing any client registered in the electronic bank system to make a full range of bank operations, additional operations with cryptocurrency (payment processing, debit cards, credits and cheap investment products, use of cryptoassets as credit security and many others) based on Blockchain technology without visit of department.


I had some suspicions about it begin plagiarist as the level of shitposting was high, but good job, that's the 3'rd legendary banned for plagiarism AFAIK.

I'm assuming he's getting paid to bump threads, but who knows.  I have a hard time believing he'd write those garbage posts out of genuine enthusiasm--and yes, a legendary member ought to know better, but it's quite possible the account was bought or hacked.  There's no evidence of that being the case, but I would never rule that out.

He deserves the same consequence as any person who makes "great project" posts, which if I'm not mistaken is a ban.  It shouldn't matter what his rank is.  Also, it's no surprise he hasn't earned any merit.  It's a Legendary account, but he seems to be a zero-value member.

I'm not quite sure but the "Good project" newbies get only the posts deleted but not a ban (permaban), this is from my own experience.
Sorry guys but I really love busting Legendaries :D


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: marlboroza on October 14, 2018, 07:58:05 PM
They are doing this since 2015:

I love the logo, as in! More power to the FreedomCoin.

First post ;D


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: The Cryptovator on October 14, 2018, 08:33:11 PM
I noticed while ago about this, also I have made a thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5039367.msg46247785#msg46247785
Many ranked member's involved with paid bumping. It's difficult for to believe that they are not getting paid although we don't have evidence. Most likely they have a team to do this kind of work. Obviously I report this kind of post even legendary or newbie. Look like he has been plagiarizing, means he should be ban.


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: deguzmanwacky on October 18, 2018, 05:08:05 AM
There are a lot of newbie members trying hard to rank up making new quality posts everyday and seeing these high ranks posting shit is such a let down. And according to other comments here, they discovered plagiarism which is prohibited here in the forum. I believe he/she should get banned from the forum.


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: WerSalit on October 18, 2018, 06:14:10 AM
Another bumping and plagiarism from Legendary: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130405.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg46791545#msg46791545


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on October 18, 2018, 06:16:35 AM
He is not banned, even though the report is marked as good.
I guess he is not going to be banned for the above mentioned plagiarism.
He should have putted the text between quote tags but... I don't know, buit if he was a newbie I think the outcome would be different.


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: mk4 on October 18, 2018, 06:23:11 AM
He is not banned, even though the report is marked as good.
I guess he is not going to be banned for the above mentioned plagiarism.
He should have putted the text between quote tags but... I don't know, buit if he was a newbie I think the outcome would be different.


If he doesn't get banned, he probably at least deserves having negative trust in my opinion. A lot of people are aiming for such rank(both for monetization or coolness purposes) and here he is posting random crap.

Went through 5 pages of his post history, barely a single decent post. Every single one is on an altcoin section.


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on October 18, 2018, 06:27:34 AM
If he doesn't get banned, he probably at least deserves having negative trust in my opinion. A lot of people are aiming for such rank(both for monetization or coolness purposes) and here he is posting random crap.

Went through 5 pages of his post history, barely a single decent post. Every single one is on an altcoin section.

This could be a solution too, but wonder how can you register back in 2015 and spam for so long without being detected. I thought that this is traded account and some newbie started spamming with it but seems like the owner is the same from the day 1


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: Veleor on October 18, 2018, 06:28:44 AM
I guess he is not going to be banned for the above mentioned plagiarism.

S/he has 3 copy-pasted messages at least.


Copy:
Bezop implements a novel Proof of order which lowers the rate of fraud for both a merchant and client using elegantly designed contracts powered by the ethereum blockchain and secured cryptographically. Merchants can collect vat and accurately manage orders.

This would be a great for business.

Best regards


Okane Satoshi
Steward.Friendz (https://steward.friendz.io/go?r=MjM1ODQ)
Signal.Network (https://signals.network/join/9D029F)

Original:
Bezop implements a novel Proof of order which lowers the rate of fraud for both a merchant and client using elegantly designed contracts powered by the ethereum blockchain and secured cryptographically. Merchants can collect vat and accurately manage orders.


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on October 18, 2018, 06:32:46 AM
S/he has 3 copy-pasted messages at least.

~
Quote
Okane Satoshi
Steward.Friendz (https://steward.friendz.io/go?r=MjM1ODQ)
Signal.Network (https://signals.network/join/9D029F)

In addition to this he posts referral links too >

Code:
Okane Satoshi
[url=https://steward.friendz.io/go?r=MjM1ODQ]Steward.Friendz[/url]
[url=https://signals.network/join/9D029F]Signal.Network[/url]


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: mk4 on October 18, 2018, 06:48:53 AM
This could be a solution too, but wonder how can you register back in 2015 and spam for so long without being detected. I thought that this is traded account and some newbie started spamming with it but seems like the owner is the same from the day 1
Probably because rules weren't that strict back in the day, though I really don't know. People probably barely checked on his post history as he had a high rank anyway.

I thought that this is traded account and some newbie started spamming with it but seems like the owner is the same from the day 1
Checked his first posts here on bitcointalk. Yikes. Spam since day 1 indeed.

In addition to this he posts referral links too >

Code:
Okane Satoshi
[url=https://steward.friendz.io/go?r=MjM1ODQ]Steward.Friendz[/url]
[url=https://signals.network/join/9D029F]Signal.Network[/url]
Looks like he broke a couple of rules already. This should hopefully be enough for a ban.


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: Direwolve735 on October 18, 2018, 07:04:33 AM
There are a lot of newbie members trying hard to rank up making new quality posts everyday and seeing these high ranks posting shit is such a let down. And according to other comments here, they discovered plagiarism which is prohibited here in the forum. I believe he/she should get banned from the forum.

Worst of all, many newbies "take a cue" from such legendary users. Having such precedents before their eyes, they see no point in writing decent posts, because you can write shit and still be in good forum positions. Such "high rank members" do much more harm than it might seem at first glance. Not only do they clog threads, they also become the unspoken "leaders" of the spam-shit-posting movement. They have many followers who aren`t responsible for their actions, because they put it on their headman. And while we are "reporting to moderator" and "ignoring" newbie-spammers, who are actually just pawns in this game, the forum is drowning in shit posts due to such "legendary pacemakers." If we really want to reduce spam on the bitcointalk, we need to fight, first of all, with the leaders of such gangs.


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on October 18, 2018, 07:16:20 AM
Nice catch, can't believe people don't know how valuable is Legendary account since it could bring you money above monthly salary if you join signature campaign or average income (yearly) if you sold the account in some 3rd world/developing country.

Just post plagiarism problem on Report plagiarism (copy/pasting) here. Calling for Mod action: please permban (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.0) (since moderator visit there) and report the post with comment "Plagiarism, more info <your post link>"

I have done this, and the report was marked as good, but the account is not banned.


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: LoyceV on October 18, 2018, 08:34:08 AM
He is not banned, even though the report is marked as good.
I guess he is not going to be banned for the above mentioned plagiarism.
As far as I know, most Mods can't ban Legendary members. I barely use "Report to moderator" for plagiarism, it usually leads to the post being deleted instead of the user getting banned.

This has a higher success rate:
Just post plagiarism problem on Report plagiarism (copy/pasting) here. Calling for Mod action: please permban (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.0) (since moderator visit there) and report the post with comment "Plagiarism, more info <your post link>"


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on October 18, 2018, 09:41:01 AM
I always report them with a link to the "proof" post and til now all got banned in a matter of minutes/hours.
This one took around 2 days to be handled, I reported it on 15th one day after Veleor posted the proof.
https://i.imgur.com/FFzlCJf.png

Normaly I report it in this format :
Quote
LEGENDARY PLAGIARIST, please BAN!! : investigated here > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg46675482#msg46675482


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: mazdafunsun on October 18, 2018, 09:23:41 PM
From time to time , i come across low quality legendaries or Hero members which suprises me but those are putting few sentences together, this one cant even do that,he is a special specimen.

Those post should be deleted and my view is that he should be banned for posting for some time as a warning.


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on October 18, 2018, 10:20:31 PM
From time to time , i come across low quality legendaries or Hero members which suprises me but those are putting few sentences together, this one cant even do that,he is a special specimen.

Those post should be deleted and my view is that he should be banned for posting for some time as a warning.

I don't know about banning but he has 61 posts deleted, this should be enough warning.
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=okane818


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: mazdafunsun on October 19, 2018, 09:33:47 AM
Those post should be deleted and my view is that he should be banned for posting for some time as a warning.
I don't know about banning but he has 61 posts deleted, this should be enough warning.
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=okane818

Did not know that there is such inforamtion in bip, thats cool.  This means that ban would be approprirate.  Lets see how this will be handled by mods ...


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on October 19, 2018, 09:39:41 AM
They have deleted 4 more now he has 65 deleted posts.
I would like to know why he is not banned yet?


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: Veleor on October 19, 2018, 10:14:05 AM
They have deleted 4 more now he has 65 deleted posts.
I would like to know why he is not banned yet?

Maybe it is Satoshi's relative.  :D

Huge community & Promising project! I like this kind.


Best regards

Okane Satoshi


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: cryptovigi on October 19, 2018, 11:21:00 PM
nice catch @iasenko

reading about legenadries spamming like boots assures me that my idea:

we could be more fair... Let's rise every rank requirements for 1 merit

jr. member - 1 merit,
member - 11 merits,
full member - 101 merits,
senior member - 251 merits,
hero member - 501 merits,
legendary - 1001 merits

I think it would be really FUN to see some high ranked users fighting to "EARN" their first merit ever ;-)

I know it wouldn't make any change with reducing spam by ranked spammers but unless it will harden a bit their lives or reduce their earnings for such shitposts...


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: mazdafunsun on October 22, 2018, 11:20:01 AM

we could be more fair... Let's rise every rank requirements for 1 merit

In general I believe that this could not be a bad idea, just removing signature until 1 merit is earned.
But in reality most likely it will lead to merit abuse, especially if there is a high ranking spam user as this Legendary user, who can easily trade merit


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on October 22, 2018, 11:30:49 AM
He is still not banned, wonder why?
Are there different standards for plagiarism??


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: Karisma Black on October 22, 2018, 04:52:41 PM
He's been doing this forever apparently.
What you should do is report as many posts as you can. They will be deleted and he'll rank down.
Can you get him back to junior member,are you up for the challenge ?


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: Nisharawal on October 22, 2018, 08:36:40 PM
Lol, i can bet few bucks that this is "recently bought" account and new owner just has a bit different lvl of communication :)


Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: cryptohunter on November 01, 2018, 01:38:50 AM
From time to time , i come across low quality legendaries or Hero members which suprises me but those are putting few sentences together, this one cant even do that,he is a special specimen.

Those post should be deleted and my view is that he should be banned for posting for some time as a warning.

I don't know about banning but he has 61 posts deleted, this should be enough warning.
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=okane818

Number of deleted posts really means very little without review of each and every one of them.
Some of the previous mods on the alt board were not at all to be trusted to form conclusive and final opinion on the value of a post.

I have seen some people just get things deleted for no reason that could be justified at all other than to someone who is completely unreasonable. Some mods here have previously favoured some real  shady projects and pointing this out will have previously caused you an issue if they could see to it.

Also, back before posting to claim rewards from new projects was banned and was standard practice on airdrops you could have a history riddled with deletes for those.

To ban a legend member there needs to be a real case for it. Especially for a perm ban.









Title: Re: Legendary spamming "good project" and one-liner spam.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on November 01, 2018, 01:26:19 PM
The OP was just a question how to deal with such accounts but the situation here is a bit different, if you have seen the posts from Veleor , there are some cases of plagiarism.
I don't want innocent people to get banned but I want to set some border for those cases.
Some get banned for even less, some are pardoned maybe...