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How dangerous are new projects for the real use of blockchain? We have already seen the story of the CryptoKitties, which brought down the Ethereum network. Can this happen again now? What projects can now grow in such a way that will affect the work of the network itself?

I haven't heard anything about good gameplay for such projects. Not so sure about the Ethereum network, but cryptokitties and others (numerous of) are same: buy something that's correlated with the project's token. Technically those are not real games, but another sauce to sell us more dishes called scammy ICO tokens. 

I don't know where you heard about cryptokitties and other ethereum games, but they are not scam. It's a collective game with microtransactions.
It's just a game and they are not stealing people's money. They have done a great job and many other projects just copied them.

Eth network had problems when cryptokitties released, but it was just for a few days/hours and never happened again. It was a good network test and was positive for the network. If ethereum is to grow, many games like this are going to be online

Yes that can happen anytime again if something new comes out and gets people's interest.

As long as there are many people using the network and transferring at the same that will cost a congestion. Just like in real life, even the biggest highways are becoming full and in traffic when vast cars are arriving altogether in season.

CEO of coinbase has invested in cryptokitties, but a lot of people realized about the fact that it's a child's game and no more. what's the usefulness of collecting the cat? It's a boring game and a lot of people have been staying away from there until there will be a good feature that makes the cat will be useful.

I heard that Ethereum is working hard on scaling its own platform because of the CryptoKitties debacle. It really disrupt its network and overwhelm the system specially last year. Or course its going to happen not only in Ethereum but other platforms as well. But just like any other hype, CryptoKitties will just die along the way and new games will pop up that's why devs really need to keep an eye specially on how to scale their projects.

Haven't heard it before and to out of curiosity i search it and it was a game, i know nothing about of this game but i don't think it can affect more in ETH these days. People can always learn and the same strategy won't fall for them again, even to me too because we already have a lot of tools to use to confirm the legitimacy of a game.

The game might be useless, but it's not a scam

Is candy crush a scam? Is PS4 a scam? PS4 is also useless, but not a scam.

You guys don't know the meaning of words anymore lol

Do not forget that Bitcoin or Ethereum are still in development (you can call this phase of experiments). Of course, many surprises may happen, but if someone believes in the development of technology, he will also believe in the success of cryptocurrencies.

not all crypto games can affect Ethereum network, only those games that giving a high pressure to the network stability

Danger if the new project is a scam that will be able to undermine the value of the ETH in an instant,some people even see the CryptoKitties cat game project is not a scam but it's just a game like trading.I'm not found a new virtual dapp games project that can increase network performance as you intended Maybe next year it will happen.

ETH is the center of altcoin. Most new altcoin hover around this platform. The value of ETH is to be offset based on the attractiveness and effectiveness of the new altcoin. And if altcoin can not offset the value of ETH by believing consumers based on the gadgets and products they create. It will cause imbalance and degradation is what is seen in the present. 90% of the projects are unsuccessful and the scam has tied up the value of ETH.

I am talking about the method, not the concrete project. Like poodle63 commented, if we're speaking about the games, we need to mention the values of gameplay, scenario and design. And you're exactly right, i've mentioned clones.

I don't think any new game will have an adverse effect on the ethereum network and I think developers have learned from cryptokitties' mistakes and now they have anticipated if such things happen again.

Yes, I know this game and the situation with it. Of course, not all games can affect ETH this way. But this can happen at any time, if the games will put a lot of pressure on the ETH network. But I think that the ETH development team solved these problems with network vulnerabilities.

I don't have any idea for this because I don't belong on the field but I think they are trying to imply lightning networks so this won't be a problem in the future.


The OP didn't say that cryptogames are scam, he's just worried about ethereum network congestion again since there are numerous blockchain based games that are coming out.

Cryptocats turned 11% of the Ethereum network to its side in the past. Anyway they’ve lost popularity pretty quick.

No one can really tell and ethereum has establish foundations that no matter what happened it will recover and makes significant progress in cryptocurrencies market.  The current happened was not because of one project was introduced into the market but the whales are trying to bring the price down so they can buy ethereum and others at cheap price and sell when the price get back to $1,000 and above!

Recently Buterin suggested to use the ZK-SNARKs protocol for the scaling. It was planned to increase the number of ERC-20 transactions 50 times, 500 per second. I can’t imagine what the kind of existing projects can seriously harm to this move.

I think the real popular game can do this: the one who will claim not only the speculators (like cryptokitties), but also housewives playing mobile. Noone of buterins can’t handle the amount of donates similar as Candy Crush.

Anyway we have a lot of time until housewives will find their interest in the cryptosphere. Too far.

They won't learn that there's something called "ether", or other info. If the mentioned games could attract some crowd to interest them with unusual features and there will be easy entry level, the users won’t be curious about the technical realisation.

What else can offer us the games with the blockchain use?

Monetization of the inner purchases , real ownership of the game items instead of the situation when everything "yours" is attached to the publisher or Steam and can be seized back.

In game items that will be your asset not only for that game but also in real life through selling it with crypto's.

That's the integration of most of the blockchain games who are developing right now. You've got to play and enjoy while getting reward with the hardwork you've been playing for that game. This is innovation along with the technology, this can even be better, gaming industry is big though.

There is Mobile Go project, for example. They releasing tokens for the cybersport tournaments.

I saw smth is this one you're talking about it - https://www.mobilego.io/?

it looks like and if I think with ethereum as the result of the game's victory, the game enthusiasts and ethereum coins will be lots and lots of people will play the game because they can make money because

Yep, exactly. I liked their approach. In the game they developed, they’ve took simple game mechanics and pixel-based illustrations to do not be distracted by trifles :D

The transaction time for Eth is too long. And the GAS is too high to transfer Eth. Maybe is time to check out other Coin and platform.

Btw, I think the network was initially projected not for the entertainment like Crypto Cats. Right now the founders got problems and Buterin’s working under the total system improvement.

What for example?

that’s wrong opinion about the network creation is not for games. It’s pretty big section of entertainment & economics which is pretty innovative. Cryptogames are the future of profitable industry.

I think that crypto games have a big future, those won’t break the Ethereum. Who can say what’s the near future of the market? Remember what happened the year ago. Now? I am talking about you can’t predict anything in crypto world.

There are numerous spheres except the gaming, those can be really popular with the influence on the network. For example manufacturing processes with the thousands of participants.

yep, it was like a test for the eth network. but cryptokitties was the only one project, what if there'll be more?

Yeah, large investors can easily to invest in some outrageous and high-profile projects. They don't have to be profitable btw. Others try to imitate them. Unfortunately, it leads to the huge risks because of the lack of assets.

There may always be something that will disturb the work of the entire Network - thats why are hard forks. Anyway, I think, that Ethereum is already so strong that it will be able to handle such "attack" as a few cryptokitties .. If not now, it will be in a few months when delayed hard fork will be made.

Lol. So true.
It is just another hype which affected the crypto market because of fools trying to make profits as fast as they want.

Somehow they will all go down in a rush just like how they started it.

I know Ethereum will be back even if Vitalik says things in his imaginary world.
The market is being phased by people and not by his mind.
He just have to keep on doing his part on his job.
Let the market be for the people.

yep, it's a bilateral process. developers influence the network, the network influences developers, you know ;)

It is also necessary to take into account the fact that during testing for the updating of the ethereum blokchain , many errors were made due to the fault of miners who did not update the software in time. Especially since they were prematurely warned about this.

and this is only one example in the whole eth network. there're lots of project with huge potential, and sooner or later ice would push back.

Ethereum so far is still trying to come up with scaling solution which I believe they are really trying hard to get and until then before we will be able to know if influx of games on the Ethereum network will become something pretty easy to come by in the long run.

Like you said, we all know how cryptokitties alone got the whole Ethereum blockchain drooling as a result of overloaded and congested network and then high fees. Although, as time goes on, I believe there would be solutions in place that would help to see things in different light but we are not there yet.

Yes, it was a test for the entire network. But crypto cats were the only ones. What will happen to the network if such projects will be many times more?

Yeah, big investors have the ability to invest in outrageous and high-profile projects. And they do not have to be profitable. Many imitate them, unfortunately, not having so many assets, only great risks.

I agree that this is a two-way process. Developed affect the network, the network affects the devs, you know.

That is the thing, and this is the reason why a lot of projects need to be coming up with scaling solution. We have seen Ethereum developers come out with some and although it has not been tested yet, but we all just hope at least it is going to help solve some of the problems we have had in the past regarding scaling issues.

Crypto kitten taught us a lesson and then made the developers to realize their network could be congested after all, and now there is just a need for a better development to be able to get the whole influx of games in place without ruining anything for the Ethereum network.

Any good project will learn from its mistakes. I think ETH devs will have learnt some lessons from the effect of Cryptokitties on the network. ETH is a very strong project, and whilst I'm sure there are plenty of bumps in the road to come, it will survive. Plus the market at the moment isn't as feverish as it was when Cryptokitties started, so I don't think it will happen again.

A lot of controversy about ETH. Of course it will survive and can be bypassed in the price of bitcoin. But this is one of the versions, and perhaps it will be so that it will NOT leave the market and only bitcoin will remain. We can only guess.

Well, let's see how that works out for every other project when used on the large scale. For now, the only project that has been used on a large scale when it comes to smart contract as well as smart contract gaming is Ethereum, which is why it would always be easy for Ethereum to keep developing faster the more to get things right as they market and network keeps challenging and the more such things happen and things are gotten right, the more it would be for more faith to be in the Ethereum project when it comes to smart contract usage, but that does not mean there still will not be a chance for other ones.

Casper is coming... We will see how ETH switch from POW to POS soon.
But at first, if you want to earn on staking, you would need to have 1500 ETH (Later they promise to decrease this digit to 32 ETH).

When people are afraid, be greedy, when people are greedy be afraid.... buy eth now.

Hmm??? I think no1 can break down the Ethereum network . Ethereum already built a strong community and a strong partenership with other many icos. There are milions of users that use it

I completely agree with you that the prospects for rest are very large and the interest of users on a large level. I think that many projects that are working on security will act to protect etherium and its product.

One thing we should also take into account is that developers are not gods, and one sure thing is that there would always be errors which is why testing comes into play before being deployed into the real world and it is during this period of testing that a lot of things are fine-tuned until gotten right.

Being a developer is not an easy thing, as you are coming with new developments and innovations, but the idea of bug testing, trying to see how things are in the process of development is one thing to always expect. If there is no error now, there won't be better ways to do it.

In Ethereum I've been reading about Casper but I don't see anything with it.

I mean, there's no progress or move with what they are proposing to the people. These problem should have a solution but until now, they aren't saying a thing and I'm guessing they are working on it silently. Well things aren't going accordingly to what we've been looking for.

Cryptogames is a bonanza 8) Well, what gamers do not want to kill monsters for money, especially for crypto. Many crypto enthusiasts picked up this topic. Mobilego for example.

I agree. The developers plan to attract thousands of games to their platform. If they really have a lot of games, then we will see a lot of gamers on ethereum.

an interesting question.

i think not. because of two reasons.
first is the fact that the hype is over so there will not be the same amount of people paying attention to these new influx of games as there were back then and with cryptokitties. so there won't be that many transactions either.
second is because the hype for ehtereum is also over and because of that there won't be that many ether transactions either since it is not getting pumped anymore so the load on the network is also lesser now.

Once upon a time I took part in this ico company, but nevertheless I have nothing against the development of cryptocurrency in the field of gambling. In this case, the main thing that gambling does not prevent the development of ethereum.

and how can gambling harm a whole platform? It seems to me that any project promising and demanded in society will only play for the benefit of ethereum and the erc20 platform as a whole.

You shouldn't forget that Ethereum is a game-starter and all eth killers which came after it were punished and completely destroyed and the only one what they could do is a raising money from greedy people which just wanted to earn a good ROI and forget about these killers after first exchange listing. Ethereum is a most strong network and company on the market and it will live, develop and thrive further.

Since ETH has been created, it opens a lot of possibilities that up until now more developers are using it. This is what they commonly accept because it is already been proven through times and yes, it has a stronger network which as the time goes by it continues to deliver a better services. Sadly, this year it faces a lot of difficulties which it turns down it's value to its original. But the good thing is, still more of us are hoping to have a bounce back and this is what everyone is expected with this last quarter.

From my point of vieww Bitcoin and Ethereum will survive  in any obstacles, it the fundament of crypto for today

It may seems to be problem with SGMpro advancing in that type of development but in any case it is not crucial problem knowing that platfrom will be strong from late 2018. Top coins will be on it soon and that is everything but not inffluencel.

yes you are right and yes i can't see this current price too and waiting at least $400-600. But from other side eth has the biggest developers community on the market and is a coin-starter  number 1 on the market, it definitely must come back to it's ATH if the market cap recovers.

I think ethereum will continue to have value despite the many new games threatening it. This eth community is still strong and remains in value. Certainly, a new challenge for eth when the new game emerges and makes it rise to be the best.

ethereum will remain strong as long as the team was able to keep his community now. There is not even a few coins that have a community of ethereum besides bitcoin. the presence of new players by the concept of a platform not much different I guess it becomes a positive thing and it does not need to be made a problem.

Remember how it happened with the game CryptoKitties. Due to the huge number of people who want to buy cats, there was an overload of Ethereum - the time for processing transactions increased. Therefore, developers should follow all the technical features in the development of cryptogames, so as not to harm Ethereum.

I agree with you. A really interesting project will benefit the ethereum network. But if the project causes serious agiotage around itself, becomes viral, then I don’t think it will be safe for the network.

Well there are and will be a lot in of projects in the coming days for that matter, and we wont know the outcome really until it happens, it will make or break Ethereum in the process. Credibility and stability is not acquired over night such thing needs to be wield.

The best option is to not use the ethereum network which is already becoming too congested. Try something like QTUM or NEO which offers ICO tokens with much more reliable performance.

I agree with your argument, there is nothing to doubt about eth, but everything only affects the circulation. sometimes there may be interference when the network circulation is full, or stacked. then we can only wait and follow the queue.