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Over the year I've grown to be very proficient at identifying fire hydrants. This is an important skill in life and since in my country they don't exist I am really glad that bitcointalk taught me how to successfully identify them through this absolute nightmare of a captcha system bitcointalk has in place.

Every time I log in to Binance I have to slide a puzzle piece into place and if I manage to do that it will tell me that I did better than 98.7% percent of other users  and it makes me feel really good about myself.

Every time I log in to bitcointalk I feel really bad about myself because I am terrible at identifying store fronts and sometimes after having been at it for 2 minutes straight and finally making it I get a message about my IP not being trusted and then I have to go through it again. And sometimes the second one will be about buses or crosswalks and I have a phobia for both.

I really don't think I'm the only one who is annoyed.

I’m pretty pissed off with traffic lights & bicycles too. I have fire hydrants off to a tee though ;D

Sounds like I'm not the only one that can't select enough or too much of the traffic light! lol

You sound quite enthusiastic though :)

Use Tor browser and request a new circuit when you get a CF captcha until you don't. I haven't had to do any captchas for a couple of months. Also what o_e_l_e_o said for login.

Most of the people who login to the bitcointalk may get annoyed because sometimes I have to solve too many captachs even I have done right all of them,I don't know why I need to pass too many.

And then selecting the vehicles is too annoying for me tho.

Apart from this solution, if you have trusted machine then do not log off from Bitcointalk.
I do not log off from forum as no outsider has access to my machine but maybe do not work well for others.

I feel so deprived - I don't get these captcha images very often when switching alts.

We don't have fire hydrants in England - well we do, but they tend to be hidden under the pavement ( sidewalk). We do have water leaks where the water board hasn't bothered with maintenance., maybe we could have some pics of those.

It is also a tin of me as annoying, sometimes you need 20 attempts to enter the forum.
Feeling blunt

Lifehack for you guys:
You wont have to identify fire hydrants, store fronts and crosswalks anymore.

Ah. Those freakin captchas. I'm totally fine with fire hydrants, but good lawd those freaking street signs and traffic lights. I mean, do I only highlight the signs alone? Or should I include the steel posts holding the signs?

Eitherway, I always end up getting those "Please try again." errors even though I think I did everything right. smh

Also, this:

Is cloudflare doing the same as google, checking your browsing habits and displaying pictures matching your "interest"?

Because I've just got this one:

https://i.imgur.com/hsuzSpm.png

At least, it's pretty easy to identify.


My dilemma is about signs that slightly go in the next square, should I check it, shouldn't I not....
Fortunately, I get those only once a week so I'm still learning about busses and storefronts, not yet an expert like the OP.

How it works is that Google compares what you answer to what thousands of other people have answered. So you want to answer what you think other people did, regardless of whether it's absolutely correct. It's best in my experience to be quite lazy, not selecting small edges or small examples of the keyword visible in the background.

I've been thinking that you could maybe make a better and perhaps less frustrating captcha by showing people a randomly-generated inkblot, asking "what do you see?" with a free-form text field, and comparing their response to everyone else's responses to that inkblot, using the same principle as recaptcha.

It would be interesting, but Google would probably use it to try to discover your deep inner desires. Be prepared for the leather underwear and whips adverts if that ever happens. :)

Please note - this post does not indicate any personal preferences, or Jet Cash fantasies.

I was trying to think of solutions for alternative captchas as bypassing them automatically is obviously a huge problem with bots, but I get the feeling that if there was one it would have been implemented by now (and there are probably far smarter people than me working on this). It might help if anyone knows how they're most frequently bypassed. If they can't be done by a bot automatically does that mean they have to be done by a human click farm somewhere being paid to enter them? If so, how do they actually do them? Do they have a program that just gives them the captcha to fill out on demand? Would browser fingerprinting and IPs help here? As in, if the browser or IP doesn't match the one that is actually implementing it on the website then it bars you? I might be fundamentally misunderstanding how they work in the first place but if I knew how they were being bypassed I could put more thought into it. Or just give up wasting my time on it haha.


Lol. Do you have an active interest in fire hydrants? Maybe you might be on to something there though. For instance, it asks you a question or shows you an image you should be familiar with based on your browsing history/cookies (though maybe this is too Orwellian for some). So for example it could show users here a bitcoin logo and ask you what that is. Obviously people here would know what it is but bots of bypass farms wouldn't.

I don't think that captcha bypassing is a huge problem on the forum. The current captcha is sufficient.

Modern reCaptcha can't be automatically bypassed. If you want to bypass them programmatically, there are many sites where they have people solve them for you. Typically, the client wanting to solve the captcha will act as an HTTP proxy so that the solver uses their IP, and it's undetectable. They charge somewhere around $0.003 per recaptcha. (Don't like doing captchas? Imagine solving them for a living...)

It is not a big deal if we are going to look at the big picture, this captchas is just to prevent bots on this forum which I think is really necessary. I would complain if this captchas will take half an hour before I could log in in this forum, but it's not so it's perfectly fine I guess.

Everything happens for a reason

I dunno. It seemed to be an issue with the ease at which bots seemed to be signing up and abusing things here.


Ha. I can imagine it will be incredibly tedious/mind-numbing work, but the people that do this for a living probably prefer it to whatever the alternative is for them - unemployment or something even worse. I think I'd rather fill out captchas all day than clean the men's toilets of a club or something, but probably not for $0.003 per one :D. I guess it's something to be thankful for that this isn't our only option in life.

If I were to activate the tinfoil hat mode I would say it was because I read this topic yesterday night and they've updated my profile, >  this guy is definitely into hydrants.
For the second part, if the answers are Bitcoin, Bytcoin, Bitcoin, Botkin I doubt we're going to see accuracy over 90%.



In the case of a smaller website, with only a thousand or so people getting captcha couldn't that be exploitable by waves of bots coming in and on purpose making thousand after thousand of wrong answers so although it looks like a butterfly 99% of the answers are going to be squirrel droppings?

I was wondering whether you had to click every square that featured a bit of whatever it wanted you to find. I felt like I was doing something wrong because sometimes it took me nearly ten goes to get them. The 'crosswalk' ones always annoyed me because sometimes they took up over half the squares and I never knew whether it helped clicking them all or just one or two boxes featuring them. I even tried a little experimenting with them but the outcome was always the same and I still had to fill out upwards of ten of them and often it still didn't let me though so I just gave up.


I know in reality in the worst situations they probably only take a few minutes to solve, but sometimes having to fill them in ten times can feel like 30 minutes, but maybe I'm being overly dramatic. I think we live in a society where everybody wants things instant and with minimal fuss so it just seems longer and people get frustrated with having to do such an dull and monotonous task.

 ;D ;D
Nice post, something completely different as i am used to see here.

Sometimes i have to do several captchas even tough i am certain that i have done the first one correctly, it annoys me also. I suppose that it could have something to do with cookies.

The fire hydrant one is very easy you newbs ;D (please ignore my comment if you are colorblind). These things get more serious when identifying storefronts. I think I got a 10% success rate, not sure if it's a store or something else. I wish I could read Chinese and Japanese.

*If you are wondering, this is a joke. I'm not stupid.

These things can be labor intensive for TOR users.  Is there a way for the forum to view the IP on the TOR exit node and know in advance if it is blocked due to over use?  I have times where I go through "pain" making it through the Captcha and then when I click enter to sign in the site comes back and states the IP has been used too many times or whatever.

I wish Theymos would charge 5 bucks a month for a user to enable U2F and that would now be my sign in option over the current entry requirement.  If that is too much maybe 20-25 bucks a year to have that option.  Great deal for me, but sadly not offered.

For cloudflare captchas - request a new Tor circuit when you get a captcha.
For login captchas - https://bitcointalk.org/captcha_code.php

I have experienced the same thing (to select or mark Fyre hydrant, car, store) or called (captcha). At that time I was confused and panicked, why when I logged in it appeared like, then I asked my friend, it turned out that it had a useful function. One of them is to avoid the bot account or actually state that the login is a human, not a robot. And that is a useful experience for me.

Why don't you check that "perma login" option? That way it's just one time nightmare. Plus, most of the times I don't even get all these selection options in Google Captcha. A simple click on the Google Captcha box and it ticks it right away... Isn't it this way for most of you?

Some people share a device and don't want others who use the same device to snoop around, so perma login really isn't a good option. Plus, my understanding is if you clear the cookies, you have to go through picking the storefronts and crosswalks again.