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Title: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: The_Tick on October 22, 2018, 02:29:58 PM
Definition of a farm: a plot of land devoted to the raising of animals and especially domestic livestock.

Countries are the plots of land, and humans are the domesticated livestock.

Instead of being fed fodder to keep us alive and render us profitable, we are fed information (mostly lies) in educational institutions and kept docile by means of cheap entertainment, comfortable paychecks and pleasure-food.

We don't need much to be happy-Be able to spend time with a few close friends, family, freedom to create without constraint, health, and self-sufficiency.

How did you escape from the farm, if you have? I've noticed a lot of people are using this forum to create better lives for themselves, prioritizing personal freedom and making themselves human again.


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: fortresscoin on October 22, 2018, 10:48:58 PM
George Orwell wrote Animal Farm in 1943 which was was born from his observation during the purges of the Spanish Civil War of,  "how easily totalitarian propaganda can control the opinion of enlightened people in democratic countries".   More clearly, the book is a satire of the Russian revolution and a critique of the Stalinist Russia that was born from it.  The animals (actually the pigs) run the farm with brutal totalitarianism.  I don’t know if this or any forum can liberate us, but unlike George Orwell’s Animal Farm, it is a platform for a free flow of information sparked by the growth of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.   


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: virendarnagpal on October 23, 2018, 04:24:28 PM
When you just think of your self and just live for the fulfillment of your own greed; then you are only an animal.
But when you start thinking for the betterment of others and society; when you start living for the benefit and betterment of others; when you start thinking how you can improve the standard of living of others; then you are human being.
Love makes one man while hatred and cruelty makes one animal.


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: SnowAugustine on October 23, 2018, 05:08:22 PM
we are fed information (mostly lies) in educational institutions and kept docile by means of cheap entertainment, comfortable paychecks and pleasure-food.
What do you mean "mostly lies"? What lie?


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: primer61 on October 23, 2018, 05:53:15 PM
Definition of a farm: a plot of land devoted to the raising of animals and especially domestic livestock.

Countries are the plots of land, and humans are the domesticated livestock.

Instead of being fed fodder to keep us alive and render us profitable, we are fed information (mostly lies) in educational institutions and kept docile by means of cheap entertainment, comfortable paychecks and pleasure-food.

We don't need much to be happy-Be able to spend time with a few close friends, family, freedom to create without constraint, health, and self-sufficiency.

How did you escape from the farm, if you have? I've noticed a lot of people are using this forum to create better lives for themselves, prioritizing personal freedom and making themselves human again.

As you said, we don't need much to be happy - is it that bad, after all? Most people are satisfied with the current state of things, as some deem happiness the most important thing, almost a life goal.
If it is easily obtained, than I don't see the problem. They don't feel the need to improve their living, they're okay with what they have.
For instance, I have a friend that has relatively moderate income. I tried to share Crypto with him and teach him ways to earn more money in the Cryptomarket - no matter how I tried, he isn't interested.
He has enough, he is happy, he doesn't want to risk and learn anything new - the farm is working.


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: sinkfish on October 24, 2018, 08:14:25 AM
being content with current life have nothing wrong. earning enough, living in moderate. the important is living in life you dream of is not a bad thing. of course you can break your circle of comfort if you looking for more challenges and experience. both way works.


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: blazon on October 25, 2018, 11:35:14 AM
This is so true, we need to reinvent the factory to make it more human-friendly.

People need social interaction and to work to a common goal, not to be part of a production line.


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: Moloch on October 25, 2018, 02:21:11 PM
How did you escape from the farm, if you have?

I took the red pill...

Reality is in the eye of the beholder... if you are angry or sad and depressed, it is your own mental construction... people are trapped inside their own mental prisons and haven't figured out they put themselves there... I made the conscious choice to no longer be angry, sad or depressed no matter what happens.  It is all just an illusion/simulation/game anyway

Life became much easier since taking the red pill... I no longer care what other people think I should be doing with my time, etc... I don't follow the rules of society, like working 40 hours a week to buy the new gadget that I will get bored with in a week... It's all silly anyway... I might as well do what makes me happy instead of doing what society tells me I should be doing (because most people who do what society says, are not happy)


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: The_Tick on October 26, 2018, 04:11:04 PM
How did you escape from the farm, if you have?

I took the red pill...

Reality is in the eye of the beholder... if you are angry or sad and depressed, it is your own mental construction... people are trapped inside their own mental prisons and haven't figured out they put themselves there... I made the conscious choice to no longer be angry, sad or depressed no matter what happens.  It is all just an illusion/simulation/game anyway

Life became much easier since taking the red pill... I no longer care what other people think I should be doing with my time, etc... I don't follow the rules of society, like working 40 hours a week to buy the new gadget that I will get bored with in a week... It's all silly anyway... I might as well do what makes me happy instead of doing what society tells me I should be doing (because most people who do what society says, are not happy)

People who do what society says only make the people who run society happy. People are very good at doing what they're told, and bad at listening to their own desires if they go against the status quo, which is why there are opioid crises and so many people who resemble the walking dead.

If people knew how much power and control they really had over their own reality, they would be a threat to the continuation of such a profitable economic model. Good to see that someone out there is dangerous.


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: custard7 on October 26, 2018, 05:43:50 PM
Definition of a farm: a plot of land devoted to the raising of animals and especially domestic livestock.

Countries are the plots of land, and humans are the domesticated livestock.

Instead of being fed fodder to keep us alive and render us profitable, we are fed information (mostly lies) in educational institutions and kept docile by means of cheap entertainment, comfortable paychecks and pleasure-food.


Definition of Feudalism: serfs perform labor on land owned by and profited from nobility in exchange for in-kind goods, like protection.

Technofeudalism: millions of people performing data-labor on websites owned by and profited from corporations like Facebook in exchange for in-kind goods, like social media.

Extending your farm metaphor, these major corporations essentially presume a property right in user data on their platforms -- user data that is immensely valuable in training machine learning and AI algorithms. They have produced data farms with grass they attract us with and they harvest our outputs.

So, how do we do something about this?

First, we need to understand this phenomena and articulate in compelling ways -- as I think your conversation is beginning.
Second, we need to identify ways to reinstate our property rights in our own data -- through both political action and technology (like blockchain)
Third, we need economic models which use blockchain to reward the marginal contributions of data along the entire supply chain towards valuable algorithms (rewarding people for their data labor instead of just extracting it, which would actually lead to higher quality data contributions instead of the flimsy, not-quality controlled ways data is currently collected..)

Great question though all around, what I've added is just a small slice of the pie!


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: Green_Bulb on October 26, 2018, 07:46:41 PM
This is so true, we need to reinvent the factory to make it more human-friendly.

People need social interaction and to work to a common goal, not to be part of a production line.

 I'm afraid that now the only way to reinvent the factory is increased robotization, this making it even less human friendly. This concept excludes people from production line almost completely leaving just one or two specialists to supervise the process. Who knows, maybe it will help to increase human interaction when we're less focused on production overall.


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: countryfree on October 26, 2018, 09:20:52 PM
I did it. I threw away my TV. I've burned my social security card. I left my country...
When I go back to my native country now, I feel I don't belong there anymore. The people are all like strangers.

Of course, I'm not on facebook, because it's just one new world-sized farm...


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: Marsel12 on October 30, 2018, 04:32:33 PM
I think that it is very difficult and even impossible to escape from this farm. Because man is a social animal. One way or another, it is human nature to live in a society, but for this you need to accept the rules of the game.
A person can only partially disengage from something. For example, do not use government social services, do not watch TV, do not have a profile on social networks, do not use a credit card. But even this does not help you escape from the "farm". You will still be part of it. People are too dependent on each other.


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: Amadeo33 on November 07, 2018, 11:32:45 AM
But people do what they themselves want. I think many of us just like living on such a farm. It is very comfortable. You always know what to expect tomorrow, you know what reward you are guaranteed to receive, how you spend it, what small household joys are waiting for you.
There is nothing bad in it, it is a standard and comfortable way. Not all people want something else. If everyone were one hundred percent free, they could not exist together.
 :)


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: Coinifyx on November 07, 2018, 12:07:56 PM
I can't imagine living in some overpopulated country, it already feels tight like this, people should learn self-respect and overcome instincts


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: cryptodv on November 08, 2018, 11:09:54 PM
It's more like an every-day rat race in a farm. I feel like people are starting to take notice already. All governments will be in turmoil one day, they will not be able to control the people any longer.


Title: Re: Modern society is a human farm
Post by: yogg on November 08, 2018, 11:47:56 PM
We wouldn't have such a population without the innovations in technology and industrial revolution., and without oil too.
Unfortunately today's society promotes consumerism, made necessary to sustain the financial and economics systems. This doesn't help.

Every specie will grow and rise in population if it has all the needs are met. This is what is happening.
So it's either that, or a totalitarian system to have strict birth control. Or a two-sided society : the "legit" one and the renegades that give birth outside.