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Title: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: jems on October 22, 2018, 07:52:47 PM
Viewed from several sides of the market, it seems that it is trying to keep rising, and towards the end of the year (as everyone expected) I have not seen a major change in the market. So I don't expect too much by the end of this year because it seems that the big increase will not be repeated at this time, so we have to keep turning our brains and continue to be optimistic to be able to adjust to current market conditions and try to get maximum profit.
Give me another suggestion and thank you very much for your response.  :)
i'm sorry if my English is bad.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: Reid on October 22, 2018, 08:00:15 PM
That will be better.
Expectations will just kill you.
So much users who wants to rush the profit and just want a year for ROI and more.
There is no such thing with other kind of investments. Crypto have changed that by being volatile.

It just stops now but it doesnt mean that it will be the end of it. I would still rather hold it for now.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: harizen on October 22, 2018, 08:09:38 PM
Viewed from several sides of the market, it seems that it is trying to keep rising, and towards the end of the year (as everyone expected) I have not seen a major change in the market. So I don't expect too much by the end of this year because it seems that the big increase will not be repeated at this time, so we have to keep turning our brains and continue to be optimistic to be able to adjust to current market conditions and try to get maximum profit.
Give me another suggestion and thank you very much for your response.  :)
i'm sorry if my English is bad.

People should not really expect too much so that it won't break their spirits once it doesn't happened. They must understand that there is really a possibility that no such trend last year will be happened this year. What they must do is to continue acquring bitcoin so that when that "bull run" happened, they can feel the benefits and advantages.

If the same bull run will happened this year, then good. If it doesn't happened, then fine. People should not be disappointed on how the market currently behaves because without this bearish trend happened this year, we are still living on a fake trend that is just pure hype and no strong support.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: btc_angela on October 22, 2018, 11:17:05 PM
Viewed from several sides of the market, it seems that it is trying to keep rising, and towards the end of the year (as everyone expected) I have not seen a major change in the market. So I don't expect too much by the end of this year because it seems that the big increase will not be repeated at this time, so we have to keep turning our brains and continue to be optimistic to be able to adjust to current market conditions and try to get maximum profit.
Give me another suggestion and thank you very much for your response.  :)
i'm sorry if my English is bad.

I can't give you a good suggestion because I don't consider myself as a good advisor specially in terms of financials. But I think its really good to be optimistic. However, if we are going to base our decision on what is going on in the market, I wouldn't put too much emphasise to see another bull run, just saying. Its better to face the facts than keep hoping for another price increase that won't happened at the end of the year.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: peter0425 on October 22, 2018, 11:27:37 PM
Viewed from several sides of the market, it seems that it is trying to keep rising, and towards the end of the year (as everyone expected) I have not seen a major change in the market.
No, not everyone is expecting a sudden spike in the price. The past 10 months indicate that we won't see any bull run.

So I don't expect too much by the end of this year because it seems that the big increase will not be repeated at this time, so we have to keep turning our brains and continue to be optimistic to be able to adjust to current market conditions and try to get maximum profit.
Give me another suggestion and thank you very much for your response.  :)
i'm sorry if my English is bad.
That's right, past performance is not a indication of future success. Even though last year was really a great and successful year for everyone, 2018 was very different though. And we need to be flexible and make adjustment in terms of our strategy. You might want to try day-trading, but its risky, but if you're willing then nothing's wrong with that. Or just continue to accumulate at this point and wait till another bull run happened before off-loading to get your profits.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: Indrawan77 on October 23, 2018, 05:27:05 AM
I think optimistic is good but it will be better if we can attract new investors, and we need a lot of publicity, seminar and other to increase the positive reputation, and I don't see the price will be near with last year price, but the potential to earn still good despite the bad market situation, and we need to keep on adapting and find new way to make profit


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: arpon11 on October 23, 2018, 06:28:55 AM
Viewed from several sides of the market, it seems that it is trying to keep rising, and towards the end of the year (as everyone expected) I have not seen a major change in the market. So I don't expect too much by the end of this year because it seems that the big increase will not be repeated at this time, so we have to keep turning our brains and continue to be optimistic to be able to adjust to current market conditions and try to get maximum profit.
Give me another suggestion and thank you very much for your response.  :)
i'm sorry if my English is bad.
Towards the end of the year "I don't expect too much" too as nothing serious is really happening except limitations and ranging market.  I believe that the bull run may be in 2019 . Are we not going to see market appreciating this year again?  That is not what I am saying but what I am trying to said is that we are at a time that we can easily foreseen what might happen in the future and if you are waiting for December before you trade you may be disappointed.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: awik p on October 23, 2018, 06:57:11 AM
Viewed from several sides of the market, it seems that it is trying to keep rising, and towards the end of the year (as everyone expected) I have not seen a major change in the market. So I don't expect too much by the end of this year because it seems that the big increase will not be repeated at this time, so we have to keep turning our brains and continue to be optimistic to be able to adjust to current market conditions and try to get maximum profit.
Give me another suggestion and thank you very much for your response.  :)
i'm sorry if my English is bad.
i think that preparing psychology to face reality is the best way. what we believe is that price of bitcoin will later rise, though not later this year. therefore holding and being patient is the key


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: 1Referee on October 23, 2018, 08:51:13 AM
I think optimistic is good but it will be better if we can attract new investors,
We're attracting plenty of investors already, but they seem to ignore the spot markets, and I can't really blame them. The far majority of the volumes generated are OTC related.

People here only look at what they see, which are the spot market volumes, but ignore that what they don't see, which are the OTC volumes. If you look at the on-chain value transfers, it's booming, while the spot market is slowly working towards newer volume lows.

and we need a lot of publicity
Publicity has only value when the price is going up or down significantly, especially with how the mainstream media is out to cover sensation related subjects. CNBC is the perfect example of that; they almost stopped covering crypto related news with how there isn't anything to report about, and perhaps that actually a good thing. CNBC is a scum news outlet.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: yanto@1977 on October 23, 2018, 09:53:55 AM
Viewed from several sides of the market, it seems that it is trying to keep rising, and towards the end of the year (as everyone expected) I have not seen a major change in the market. So I don't expect too much by the end of this year because it seems that the big increase will not be repeated at this time, so we have to keep turning our brains and continue to be optimistic to be able to adjust to current market conditions and try to get maximum profit.
Give me another suggestion and thank you very much for your response.  :)
i'm sorry if my English is bad.

You should try take opportunity create money out side crypto market using another financial instrument ( stock, commodities ). If you're on line worker, try ads, blog and you tube channel. Many ways already prepare for you just decides which one and take the challenge. Leave crypto ( for now ) is the right decision but never look back again.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: Huskarls on October 23, 2018, 03:01:11 PM
Viewed from several sides of the market, it seems that it is trying to keep rising, and towards the end of the year (as everyone expected) I have not seen a major change in the market. So I don't expect too much by the end of this year because it seems that the big increase will not be repeated at this time, so we have to keep turning our brains and continue to be optimistic to be able to adjust to current market conditions and try to get maximum profit.
Give me another suggestion and thank you very much for your response.  :)
i'm sorry if my English is bad.

things that are more or less the same as I thought, actually this has also come to my mind since July. there is no sign that the market will recover until the end of the year, of course it will also have an impact in early 2019. It is stupid if we hope that the same pattern will be formed every year without being balanced with stable market conditions


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: Slow death on October 23, 2018, 03:59:02 PM
Viewed from several sides of the market, it seems that it is trying to keep rising, and towards the end of the year (as everyone expected) I have not seen a major change in the market.

I do not understand, you said:

" it seems that it is trying to keep rising "

and then you say this:

" I have not seen a major change in the market. "

So I don't expect too much by the end of this year because it seems that the big increase will not be repeated at this time

We can not compare last year with this year, but the year is not over yet and we can have a chance to maybe see the price of 9000 $, we have this news:

NYSE Parent Company Reveals Launch Date for Bitcoin Futures on Bakkt Platform (https://cointelegraph.com/news/nyse-parent-company-reveals-launch-date-for-bitcoin-futures-on-bakkt-platform)

If this happens, we can see good things in the future.



Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: St4yInTh3D4rk on October 23, 2018, 04:25:41 PM
Viewed from several sides of the market, it seems that it is trying to keep rising, and towards the end of the year (as everyone expected) I have not seen a major change in the market.

I do not understand, you said:

" it seems that it is trying to keep rising "

and then you say this:

" I have not seen a major change in the market. "
He is saying about the last year's price increase towards end of this year and people expecting the same thing this year also but there is no sign for that happening until now.

Changes is the only thing not change in the world so we never have to expect the same thing if that happened before,just learn to accept the condition and make use of it.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: Koadharber on October 23, 2018, 04:49:19 PM
Viewed from several sides of the market, it seems that it is trying to keep rising, and towards the end of the year (as everyone expected) I have not seen a major change in the market. So I don't expect too much by the end of this year because it seems that the big increase will not be repeated at this time, so we have to keep turning our brains and continue to be optimistic to be able to adjust to current market conditions and try to get maximum profit.
Give me another suggestion and thank you very much for your response.  :)
i'm sorry if my English is bad.
Suggestion? I do see that everyone do needs a suggestion on how they should handle theirselves into this very bearish market of 2018.Even myself would say
that we wont able to see again the even that do happen on last year. 2 months left for 2018 there are no such movements or signs about of trend reversal so
I don't really expect too much.For now, we should hold up on how this thing goes.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: Indamuck on October 23, 2018, 05:16:51 PM
Well, two months is a lot of time in the crypto world.  It only took a few months for bitcoin to go from 6k to 20k in the first place.  I predict the total marketcap will be at least doubled by the end of the year.  Right now we are at 205 billion total marketcap, I bet it will be over 400 billion easily.  By the way, don't let the FUD break you.  There are a lot of whales out here buying off the panic sellers.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: minairia3 on October 23, 2018, 09:38:26 PM
Viewed from several sides of the market, it seems that it is trying to keep rising, and towards the end of the year (as everyone expected) I have not seen a major change in the market. So I don't expect too much by the end of this year because it seems that the big increase will not be repeated at this time, so we have to keep turning our brains and continue to be optimistic to be able to adjust to current market conditions and try to get maximum profit.
Give me another suggestion and thank you very much for your response.  :)
i'm sorry if my English is bad.

Major catalysts would be the key here such as mass adoption or greater businesses lead. We don't know. But we're hoping yes. It seems that this economy would not go in vain as the major technologies in finance and innovation in general are here in this space.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: BitcoinHunt3r on October 23, 2018, 09:44:10 PM
Viewed from several sides of the market, it seems that it is trying to keep rising, and towards the end of the year (as everyone expected) I have not seen a major change in the market. So I don't expect too much by the end of this year because it seems that the big increase will not be repeated at this time, so we have to keep turning our brains and continue to be optimistic to be able to adjust to current market conditions and try to get maximum profit.
Give me another suggestion and thank you very much for your response.  :)
i'm sorry if my English is bad.
Don't have good suggestion because i am not professional trader. But with market condition like now we must think logically. It is true, if we must keep optimist if crypto price will changed in future. But if we really need to earn money, we forced to take advantage with this market condition. With what trade that we can use, we need to keep profit until that time come.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: aencarnaci on October 24, 2018, 05:42:03 AM
What do you really expect from bitcoin ?
Bitcoin is a currency, you can spend it to get something, you can get paid to sell something or offer your services for it. You can basically use it to buy stuff. You can send your friends some money. You can donate it to charity. Whatever you can do with dollars or euros or sterling you can do it with bitcoin as well.

There is absolutely no reason why bitcoin can't be used like the other currencies. It also costs very little for spending as well, you do not have to spend tens of dollars for sending your money. People keep talking about how sending 180 million costs 3 cents to send however who here has that much money and really cares about it anyway so basically it is better for overseas payments as well.

Basically if you are looking for "profit" than you are searching it at the wrong place, you are here because bitcoin is a currency, use it.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: Bttzed03 on October 24, 2018, 07:22:23 AM
I expect a decent market recovery towards the end of the year. Not the same as last year as you mentioned but a bitcoin at around $10,000 and eth climbing back to $500 type of recovery.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: astridwi on October 24, 2018, 07:33:24 AM
at the moment what I play is enjoying a moment of slight price changes, I choose to become a daily trader with profit targets below 5% per transaction and this makes me satisfied and hopefully the future price of crypro becomes better at least like the end of 2017 or more


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: agatha90 on October 24, 2018, 08:19:03 AM
This year there has been no increase for bitcoin and some altcoins, the beginning of the year there may be changes. To get profit, I find it difficult, because some of my capital is held in several coins. And the price is still very far from what I bought.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: crossabdd on October 24, 2018, 08:27:29 AM
I also saw that. Crypto will not reach the second peak by the end of this year. but in my opinion this is a good time to start trading. because the price level is starting to stabilize and can be predicted using patterns and graphics. I've felt everything start to calm down and this is like in 2016. my advice is to try to start trading rather than just waiting for the crypto price to make a peak again.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: cluit on October 25, 2018, 12:21:02 PM
This year there has been no increase for bitcoin and some altcoins, the beginning of the year there may be changes. To get profit, I find it difficult, because some of my capital is held in several coins. And the price is still very far from what I bought.
Well, that is where the adaptation comes in. There may have been no serious movement when it comes to upward, but there has been movement downward with some short term correction upward in between, so how you were able to adapt to such changes and now for your own goodies, is left to how knowledgeable you actually are.

You will always find it difficult to get profit if all you are doing is to look at now, have no knowledge and no slightest clue of what you do in the market, that is when you will always have a problem and which is the reason we always say never trade when you are not learned and have a confident strategy.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: tenakha on October 25, 2018, 05:52:46 PM
If you have no idea what to do, you should try to stay away. The only thing you can do when the current market situation is bad is to find some fiat and get digital money that can provide you earnings and rest your head until the prices are improved. It is not possible to say anything about the improvement of prices, maybe the last year's increase made an impact on people, perhaps this year will help the artificial increase. Or the decision of the ETF will help it, just waiting can help us.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: dunfida on October 25, 2018, 07:39:47 PM
Well, two months is a lot of time in the crypto world.  It only took a few months for bitcoin to go from 6k to 20k in the first place.  I predict the total marketcap will be at least doubled by the end of the year.  Right now we are at 205 billion total marketcap, I bet it will be over 400 billion easily.  By the way, don't let the FUD break you.  There are a lot of whales out here buying off the panic sellers.
Those movement are just good on previous year but still plausible on the last 2 months of this year and as being said it doesn't take too much time for btc to reach ATH but if we do base or the behavior or btc price on this year alone and if the movement would just retain on those small percentages then we wont able to hit up possible shoot up of prices not only on bitcoin but also into the entire market.Im aint already expecting too much for the bull run.Just deal on the current situation and make yourself profitable no matter what.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: Sadlife on October 25, 2018, 07:48:12 PM
There has been in recent news many projects starting up related to crypto currency and others have invested through it in projects like exchanges, mining farms and blockchain. Mostly those people who invested in crypto's are institutional investors the price may seem stagnant but it's slowly and firmly increasing.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: MiF on October 25, 2018, 07:56:03 PM
If you have no idea what to do, you should try to stay away. The only thing you can do when the current market situation is bad is to find some fiat and get digital money that can provide you earnings and rest your head until the prices are improved. It is not possible to say anything about the improvement of prices, maybe the last year's increase made an impact on people, perhaps this year will help the artificial increase. Or the decision of the ETF will help it, just waiting can help us.

If many people will adapt crypto, I guess the effect on that to the price of each coins we have is great and profitable value also will be capable for everyone.   More people will earn bigger fiat revenue on after doing trading activities, and as they exchange their digital money it will be converted to fiat cash or physical money. Always trust what your community may bring in the next updates for each and everyone's holdings, and I'm confident enough this will bring them a better opportunity to acquire that dreamed profit gains.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: Biscutard on October 25, 2018, 09:55:50 PM
There has been in recent news many projects starting up related to crypto currency and others have invested through it in projects like exchanges, mining farms and blockchain. Mostly those people who invested in crypto's are institutional investors the price may seem stagnant but it's slowly and firmly increasing.
Most of these news doesn't affect the market that much it just that the market doesn't care at all whether we a have a bull run or not it just go it's own way. While bitcoin is keep on declining the market slowly as if it suffer from too much stress from the people.
Now we can't just force everyone to adapt bitcoin even if you say so because lots of these people have different lifestyle.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: rickadone on October 26, 2018, 07:57:42 AM
I also saw that. Crypto will not reach the second peak by the end of this year. but in my opinion this is a good time to start trading. because the price level is starting to stabilize and can be predicted using patterns and graphics. I've felt everything start to calm down and this is like in 2016. my advice is to try to start trading rather than just waiting for the crypto price to make a peak again.
I really do not know what you are referring to as second peak but one way or the other, I really would not expect anyone to assume the future for a market they cannot see its future. Because imagining themselves for future events is the roost cause for many unexpected disasters.

If you are referring to the previous ATH, there is no one who can tell if we may not get to see the opportunity before the end of the year, but if you are referring to a new ATH, you and I both know this is not something we can easily get to see as far as I am concerned in this year. However, when it comes to making profit in the market and adapting to every change in trend, it will only have to do with your knowledge in most cases actually.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: DarkBullet on October 26, 2018, 12:56:24 PM
We can actually learn a lot this year and adjusting ourselves on today's market will practice our patience. Observing the market, crypto news and with your favorite altcoin are one of the best sources to earn on this bear market. In trading, you can always buy the rumor and sell the news. Just watch out with those updates with your favorite altcoin like partnerships, airdrops or exchange listing. Believe me, those I mentioned to watch out are the most reason for their price pump for a secured profit. Just don't expect too much return because it could also lead to your losses.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: Caelanpelley on October 26, 2018, 02:19:27 PM
I'm not sure that the money market will increase by the end of this year. I do not know if I have recaptured capital or not. I am trying to find the opportunity to be able to sell the bitcoin to make money. If you continue to hold the bitcoin market price increases or even lower prices.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: frowsiter on October 26, 2018, 08:02:10 PM
Actually it is too early to judge that there is nothing going to happen at the end of year. This is crypto world and you never know what will happen to the next movement. I have seen that crypto has risen by 20-25% in 30 minutes of window and this is the power of crypto currency if you ask me. Such events has always happened in the past and thats why we can rely on it until the last movement of this year also. Who knows this year the movement might just start at the end of december or start of November. The market needs little time to gain the capitals so its all about the time. I guess there is still great hope and things will surely come to a sweet end.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: Xardasim on October 26, 2018, 08:59:05 PM
Actually it is too early to judge that there is nothing going to happen at the end of year. This is crypto world and you never know what will happen to the next movement. I have seen that crypto has risen by 20-25% in 30 minutes of window and this is the power of crypto currency if you ask me. Such events has always happened in the past and thats why we can rely on it until the last movement of this year also. Who knows this year the movement might just start at the end of december or start of November. The market needs little time to gain the capitals so its all about the time. I guess there is still great hope and things will surely come to a sweet end.
I totally agree with you. The potential for change in cryptocurrency is very large compared to others and there is always a possibility of price rise. So every decline is a bigger opportunity for getting up, if only a little can be pushed, we can see the highest price so far.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: Lorin on October 26, 2018, 09:36:54 PM
Lets face the reality that nothing in this world is permanent but it depends on you because you are the one who makes decisions. We see that crypto is at low price but all of us are still hoping that in the end of this year  it will increase again and all of us will earn a good profit.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: BitHodler on October 26, 2018, 09:57:02 PM
I have seen that crypto has risen by 20-25% in 30 minutes of window and this is the power of crypto currency if you ask me. Such events has always happened in the past and thats why we can rely on it until the last movement of this year also.
What you are referring to are occasional pumps affecting low market cap coins, and these coins in no shape or form provide guidance on how the market will progress. These pumps happen regardless of the sentiment.

The price of the pumped coins without Bitcoin doing anything will always come back down. Bitcoin makes or breaks the market, and it's clear by now that we have to accept the bear market as it comes.

Instead of complaining people should do everything they can to utilize current accumulation phase and buy Bitcoin once a month by dollar cost averaging your entry points. That's the easiest way to catch the next bull run.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: kyle999 on October 27, 2018, 02:01:18 PM
Lets face the reality that nothing in this world is permanent but it depends on you because you are the one who makes decisions. We see that crypto is at low price but all of us are still hoping that in the end of this year  it will increase again and all of us will earn a good profit.

Good advice but my predictions this year will not reach again for bitcoins pricr what happen in the past year maybe 2019 will start a new profit from altcoins and bitcoin.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 27, 2018, 02:11:59 PM
With what happened this month, I don't expect that much this year with regards to Bitcoin and the whole market in general.

There is a chance that it will increase gradually after the year end but it will not reach its highest peak of $20k. Maybe like $10k is possible if Bitcoin will rise. I don't expect too much on the market. I always base the charts unto what will possibly happen next. Sometimes I watch some videos on youtube unto what are their opinions regarding to what is happening right now on the market.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: syamster on October 27, 2018, 06:30:07 PM
I'm not sure that the money market will increase by the end of this year. I do not know if I have recaptured capital or not. I am trying to find the opportunity to be able to sell the bitcoin to make money. If you continue to hold the bitcoin market price increases or even lower prices.
Price and value of bitcoin remains anonymous as anytime it can rise up to thousands of dollars and it can fall too, but the only thing that we will have to do it manage the situation wisely, as try to buy when the price is down and try to sell when it is high, making money with money is best opportunity that we only can get with the help of bitcoin otherwise it is useless mate, invest and hold you will have profit.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: supermine on October 27, 2018, 06:35:14 PM
Lets face the reality that nothing in this world is permanent but it depends on you because you are the one who makes decisions. We see that crypto is at low price but all of us are still hoping that in the end of this year  it will increase again and all of us will earn a good profit.

Good advice but my predictions this year will not reach again for bitcoins pricr what happen in the past year maybe 2019 will start a new profit from altcoins and bitcoin.
Even in 2019 the prices may not spike up just like happened in 2017 so we need to decrease our expectation level and just face the reality of the price increase of bitcoin.Looking for 1000% of price increase from bitcoin is too much from my knowledge because no other thing in this world capable of doing that in multiple times so it just happened with bitcoin too because of different factors in 2017.


Title: Re: Adaptation for profit.
Post by: 1Referee on October 27, 2018, 06:53:47 PM
Sometimes I watch some videos on youtube unto what are their opinions regarding to what is happening right now on the market.

I don't think there are that many people actually worth following on youtube. Most of the crypto "influencers" on youtube are rehashing articles posted by news outlets such as Coinbase, CCN, Bitcoinist, but phrase it slightly different to make it look like they know what they are talking about. Their only motive is to push for content creation and thus more views, not to provide you with unbiased opinions and whatnot.

Alessio Rastani seems to be somewhat of an exception with how neutral he remains. He also isn't afraid of admitting that he is wrong on previous predictions, which can't be said about most of the other entities trying to do the same. They just bury their previous failed predictions (and there are plenty) under a thick layer of sand and move on to the next one as if nothing happened.