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Title: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: mocker001 on November 06, 2018, 06:30:34 PM
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/posing-as-elon-musk-nets-hacker-about-180000-worth-of-bitcoin-so-far-2018-11-06

Several verified accounts were used by these jerks, to pose as Elon Musk. Some accounts belonged to politicians as well. Of course people shouldn’t be falling for this, but, they can be cut some slack as these were verified accounts.

Obviously the tweets are comical and dumb, but still, they did get almost $200K, didn’t they. Let’s see how twitter reacts, while hoping they don’t bottle it like the last time.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: ZombieSlayerTank on November 06, 2018, 08:06:45 PM
That's insane that they used bitcoin as a means of getting currency.  I guess that makes sense, as it is more enticing nowadays to people who see "cash giveaways" as more of a scam.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: hatshepsut93 on November 06, 2018, 09:12:32 PM
I understand how people can get scammed by ICO's, HYIP's and cloud mining, because they are thinking that they are investing in some sort of business, but how can so many people seriously believe that some celebrity is giving away cryptocurrency and needs them to send their coins in order to participate?


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: gentlemand on November 06, 2018, 09:24:16 PM
Er, fuck 'em.

I have less than zero sympathy for anyone that goddamn dim. If they weren't going to give their money away doing this, it was going to be via other avenues. I hope the con artist uses it more wisely.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: cybersofts on November 06, 2018, 11:04:52 PM
I don't know why some people are stupid enough to fall victims of such crypto scams. the majority of bitcoin giveaways are scams. by the way, why would anyone you his bitcoin for free? If you are not wise enough to hold your bitcoin carefully then you'll fall a victim of such scams. People should ask themselves before sending their bitcoin to anyone, why would that person give you his bitcoin for free? is he Mr. Nakamoto or what? 


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: yndye on November 07, 2018, 04:42:10 AM
I don't know why some people are stupid enough to fall victims of such crypto scams. the majority of bitcoin giveaways are scams. by the way, why would anyone you his bitcoin for free? If you are not wise enough to hold your bitcoin carefully then you'll fall a victim of such scams. People should ask themselves before sending their bitcoin to anyone, why would that person give you his bitcoin for free? is he Mr. Nakamoto or what? 

Well, he is a famous and rich person and we know that there are times when they choose to give something for promotional purposes or they just want to give something to people and for those who are new to crypto world seeing the price currently, they would be convinced that they can get something out of it. When I am just new to cryptocurrency, I easily believe this kind of giveaway that's why I got scammed before.

Of course, I regret that I easily believe it but then I learned my lesson and  try to help others who are just blindly believing this kind of stuff by warning them.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: Kemarit on November 07, 2018, 07:59:22 AM
Yeah, its really comical and I have a good laughs reading the tweet. But oh my, people are still falling for this trap and the scammers was able to raised $180,000 worth of bitcoins, hats off to him. LOL. Its really hard to fathom why people are gullible enough to believed that if its really someone famous, we should take him/her word for it. Really hard to understand because its pretty obvious from the beginning, I guess what we can do is just treat this as another lessons learned to everyone.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: Harlot on November 07, 2018, 09:21:16 AM
There is no doubt that people would really fall for this scam, Elon Musk is a known figure in the cryptocurrency industry and posing some believable photos and sites would definitely convince a lot of people that this shit is real. Every time I see this kinds of "to good to be true" schemes I know that something is up and the best thing is to step away, that is why I have avoided dozens of investment schemes because I know I'll end up easily losing the money I invested it for hoping to have an easy return for it.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: Slow death on November 07, 2018, 09:45:55 AM
[...]

https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1059508666632716289/photo/1

https://i.imgur.com/nJKiBM7.png

How can people believe in this kind of scheme? if someone did that kind of scheme then that person would be running a ponzi scheme, and I doubt any celebrity or anyone famous would do such a thing. Then I ask the same question again: why the hell do people fall into scams like these? The only answer that comes in my head is: greed



Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: Lucius on November 07, 2018, 10:35:31 AM

How can people believe in this kind of scheme? if someone did that kind of scheme then that person would be running a ponzi scheme, and I doubt any celebrity or anyone famous would do such a thing. Then I ask the same question again: why the hell do people fall into scams like these? The only answer that comes in my head is: greed


It's not just about greed, but about ignorance combined with poor English knowledge with the addition of something very important - some people blindly following some celebrities on social networks and they will do whatever what is required. Ponzi is an unknown term for them, therefore they can not even defend themselves from any kind of fraud.

These types of fraud are very easily feasible, you only need FB/Twitter account with name as much as possible similar to the original and coin address - then you just throw the bait in digital sea and catch digital fish. As long as there are possibilities, there will be the fraudsters who will exploit them.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: LeGaulois on November 07, 2018, 11:06:10 AM
People can be really dumb sometimes and no logic. Sending money to someone who doesn't care about you. Don't people have better things to do with their income, no bills?
Twitter won't publish any comment regarding this scam, the company will just try to avoid responding to the bad buzz. Or just a generic reply


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: DooMAD on November 07, 2018, 02:15:29 PM
I've heard people say that social media rots your brain, but this is something else.  People don't want to believe what scientists and doctors say, but they'll take twitter at face value without stopping to even question it?  No wonder the world is in the state it currently is. 


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: hatshepsut93 on November 07, 2018, 03:17:44 PM
People can be really dumb sometimes and no logic. Sending money to someone who doesn't care about you. Don't people have better things to do with their income, no bills?
Twitter won't publish any comment regarding this scam, the company will just try to avoid responding to the bad buzz. Or just a generic reply

They have actually commented about this scam: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46097853

They have said that they are working on it, and that they have already been able to reduce the number of impressions these scam tweets get. Time will tell if they will be able to solve this problem or not.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: CoinAcademyNL on November 07, 2018, 04:01:54 PM
Maybe those politicians should be more aware of cyber-security.

Sad to see that this has happened and that people fell for this, but on the other hand it should be so easy to know that this is fake...


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: Thekool1s on November 07, 2018, 08:11:16 PM
If you ask me, Twitter should be held accountable for this. I mean if it's really that easy to manipulate a blue-ticked account than its about time they think about their security. Once I saw a similar thing happening on Facebook, I reported that account and I haven't seen something like this again on facebook at least. I believe Facebook manually reviews a name change request of the account and you have to re-verify your Identity afterwards. It's about time these platforms should be held accountable too. They get away too often if you ask me. Yeah you can argue people are dumb, greedy whatever. But if you tell me that I can change a blue-tick account to impersonate a celebrity and get away with it than I think people should really think about what kind of pathetic platform they are on.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: xFiber on November 07, 2018, 09:34:41 PM
How can people believe in this kind of scheme? if someone did that kind of scheme then that person would be running a ponzi scheme, and I doubt any celebrity or anyone famous would do such a thing. Then I ask the same question again: why the hell do people fall into scams like these? The only answer that comes in my head is: greed

I really don't think it's only greed, sure it can be a big factor especially when it comes to crypto scams, but I feel like there are more factors to this matter such as inexperience or gullibility. I often times cringe when my (grand)parents ask me whether an obvious scam site is real or not, or contract a virus to their pc that could've been avoided quite easily. These are all honest intellectual people who are simply inexperienced with all these threats out there.

If you ask me, Twitter should be held accountable for this. I mean if it's really that easy to manipulate a blue-ticked account than its about time they think about their security. Once I saw a similar thing happening on Facebook, I reported that account and I haven't seen something like this again on facebook at least. I believe Facebook manually reviews a name change request of the account and you have to re-verify your Identity afterwards. It's about time these platforms should be held accountable too. They get away too often if you ask me. Yeah you can argue people are dumb, greedy whatever. But if you tell me that I can change a blue-tick account to impersonate a celebrity and get away with it than I think people should really think about what kind of pathetic platform they are on.

Exactly this! Especially those who are responsible for auditing the advertisements launched on their platform (if audits are even taking place in the first place!). A platform's number one concern should be their users and if they're exposing their users to such a blatant scam then I feel like you're equally (if not more) responsible for the way this scam has turned out.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: Thekool1s on November 08, 2018, 07:49:18 PM
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Especially those who are responsible for auditing the advertisements launched on their platform (if audits are even taking place in the first place!).

Facebook does it with AI, They have this no more than 20% text rule. But this doesn't immediately filter out any sort of hate/scam content. There are special keyword filtering as far as I know. If your description or the title match those keywords then the ad is manually reviewed by their team. If it comes clean the ad is automatically processed. Also with Twitter, they aren't exploiting the ads but rather their feature.

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A platform's number one concern should be their users and if they're exposing their users to such a blatant scam then I feel like you're equally (if not more) responsible for the way this scam has turned out.

Exactly but No one wants to take the blame. Just look at how Facebook and Google handled the ICO ads. Instead of doing their job which would have been to validate the businesses they are working with, they just banned them altogether. But what I find hypocritical here is that They allow these fake gurus to sell these fake courses and make millions yet they haven't banned selling of courses on their platforms. I dunno why these platforms are so selective and anti-cryptos.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on November 09, 2018, 06:36:40 PM
[...]

https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1059508666632716289/photo/1

https://i.imgur.com/nJKiBM7.png

Lol. That is hillarious. Sounds legit.

How can people believe in this kind of scheme? if someone did that kind of scheme then that person would be running a ponzi scheme, and I doubt any celebrity or anyone famous would do such a thing. Then I ask the same question again: why the hell do people fall into scams like these? The only answer that comes in my head is: greed



Greed and stupidity. As the phrase goes - a fool and his money are easily parted. There's also another one - if something sounds to good to be true then it probably is. It's often usually easier to scam the greedy as they get excited over the prospect of free money and critical thinking goes out of the window along with their money. I really don't have any sympathy for these people as this is blatantly a scam and I only hope they learned their lesson from this.

If you ask me, Twitter should be held accountable for this. I mean if it's really that easy to manipulate a blue-ticked account than its about time they think about their security. Once I saw a similar thing happening on Facebook, I reported that account and I haven't seen something like this again on facebook at least. I believe Facebook manually reviews a name change request of the account and you have to re-verify your Identity afterwards. It's about time these platforms should be held accountable too. They get away too often if you ask me. Yeah you can argue people are dumb, greedy whatever. But if you tell me that I can change a blue-tick account to impersonate a celebrity and get away with it than I think people should really think about what kind of pathetic platform they are on.

The only people who should be held accountable are the fools who lost their money. Just because someone is a celebrity or 'verified' doesn't mean you should give them your money, especially online. These are the types of people who would fall for Nigerian lottery scams because the email came from 'prince'. I don't think gmal or hotmail should be responsible for those who fall victim to those scams either.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: Thekool1s on November 10, 2018, 12:43:15 AM
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The only people who should be held accountable are the fools who lost their money. Just because someone is a celebrity or 'verified' doesn't mean you should give them your money, especially online.

I mean anyone who isn't tech savvy doesn't mean they are a fool. These platforms often give bad press to the cryptos saying things, like they are scam/shady and users should stay away from them. Just look at how Facebook and Google banned crypto related ads. But when these Platforms are used to sell fake courses, we don't see an action from them banning all these fake gurus. It's their hypocrisy which I can't stand. I do agree with you on people being fool but not everyone is a tech savvy person. There should be measures which protect the users on their platform.

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Nigerian lottery scams because the email came from 'prince'.

You can't compare the two. One is a shady email address, while other is a special badge from a supposedly trusted platform.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: gentlemand on November 10, 2018, 01:06:38 AM
You can't compare the two. One is a shady email address, while other is a special badge from a supposedly trusted platform.

People need to exercise a teensy weensy bit of common sense. Even if it's a 'special badge' it's still so obviously a scam that I can't summon up any sympathy at all.

If Elon Musk's specially badged account told you to inject your phallus with bleach to extend your life by 20 years would you do it without question? I would not.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: veleten on November 10, 2018, 03:32:12 PM
[...]

https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1059508666632716289/photo/1

https://i.imgur.com/nJKiBM7.png

How can people believe in this kind of scheme? if someone did that kind of scheme then that person would be running a ponzi scheme, and I doubt any celebrity or anyone famous would do such a thing. Then I ask the same question again: why the hell do people fall into scams like these? The only answer that comes in my head is: greed



totally agree I call it stupidity tax
if you fail to pass the IQ test online in a form of falling for this , then it is your problem
the only thing that seems unreal is the sum on one of the btc accounts, it is over 26 btc in total
I know some people are dumb, but they cannot be THAT dumb
seriously, even if it were 1000 people , each of them should have sent 180$


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: milewilda on November 10, 2018, 04:44:53 PM
If you ask me, Twitter should be held accountable for this. I mean if it's really that easy to manipulate a blue-ticked account than its about time they think about their security. Once I saw a similar thing happening on Facebook, I reported that account and I haven't seen something like this again on facebook at least. I believe Facebook manually reviews a name change request of the account and you have to re-verify your Identity afterwards. It's about time these platforms should be held accountable too. They get away too often if you ask me. Yeah you can argue people are dumb, greedy whatever. But if you tell me that I can change a blue-tick account to impersonate a celebrity and get away with it than I think people should really think about what kind of pathetic platform they are on.
Twitter do really have also the mistake when it comes to security and they should really make such changes to prevent further similar situations but
eventually people's lack of common sense is the main issue why they do let themselves blinded on one's popularity to follow up on the things that had been instructed to
the public. Even reading it up, having a basic knowledge with scams will really give you or picture out that this one is a classic scam but people
do let their stupidity and greed control them.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: Thekool1s on November 10, 2018, 09:30:48 PM
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If Elon Musk's specially badged account told you to inject your phallus with bleach to extend your life by 20 years would you do it without question? I would not.

Lol, Neither would i. But I want these platforms to get the same heat as bitcoin does. Why do they target bitcoin whenever something goes wrong? I mean the recent ransomware attack. Bitcoin got only bad press from that while the hackers should have gotten the press. Maybe it's just me who wants to see some karma in action.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: gentlemand on November 10, 2018, 10:26:09 PM
Lol, Neither would i. But I want these platforms to get the same heat as bitcoin does. Why do they target bitcoin whenever something goes wrong? I mean the recent ransomware attack. Bitcoin got only bad press from that while the hackers should have gotten the press. Maybe it's just me who want to see some karma in action.

That's fair enough but I think we'll just have to get used to the idea of implicit blame and move on. It's not as if a decade of near constant loathing has done a great deal to dent it. It would be good if Twitter tightened up on it all the same because the next bull run is going to draw in even more cognitively disadvantaged marks.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: Thekool1s on November 11, 2018, 12:45:06 AM
Quote from: gentlemand
It would be good if Twitter tightened up on it all the same because the next bull run is going to draw in even more cognitively disadvantaged marks.

Even if there is a petition for additional security measure I doubt they will budge. I mean its way easier to talk shit and ban something instead of improving your platform.  ::)


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: felixesteban on November 11, 2018, 08:53:56 PM
It's really pretty easy to fool some people, unfortunately the greed of people making easy money cause that. People need to learn not to be deceived easily.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: dreamhouse on November 11, 2018, 10:14:42 PM
This old trick can still cheat people which is really amazing. Looks like some people are really dumb in today's internet world. Better they lose some money to learn the internet, lol.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: bosian on November 12, 2018, 02:09:19 AM
This cheat scheme has been there for quite some time, still there are people who fall for it. This means there are people really stupid.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: Kakmakr on November 12, 2018, 07:36:27 AM
This just shows us once again that there is no medicine for stupidity. Why would Elon Musk or anyone for that matter, need to "verify" that the Bitcoin address is valid, by having people sending 0.1 to 3 BTC to his address? You post your Bitcoin address on request, like you post your Bank account number and you never need to send anything to legitimize or to validate that you own the address.  ::)

This makes me think of the Nigerian scams, where you need to deposit, say $300 to receive the $1 000 000 reward.  :P


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: CoinClarity on November 12, 2018, 08:49:55 AM
I saw the same thing happen to Eva Longoria the other day on Twitter, except they really did hack her account. But they only raised like $600 because, after all, it was Eva Longoria. Not much of a bitcoin fan base crossover. What astounds me is that people can be savvy enough to buy bitcoin but then dumb enough to lose it to a scam like this.

https://i.imgur.com/CWLca8d.png


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: gentlemand on November 12, 2018, 11:32:35 AM
I saw the same thing happen to Eva Longoria the other day on Twitter, except they really did hack her account. But they only raised like $600 because, after all, it was Eva Longoria. Not much of a bitcoin fan base crossover.

If Andy Kaufman was alive and well he'd post something like this on Twitter and pay out plus send the latecomers' money back just to sow some doubt about whether they're all scams or not.


Title: Re: [2018-11-06] Posing as Elon Musk, hacker nets about $180,000 worth of bitcoin
Post by: Thekool1s on November 12, 2018, 08:52:46 PM
I saw the same thing happen to Eva Longoria the other day on Twitter, except they really did hack her account. But they only raised like $600 because, after all, it was Eva Longoria. Not much of a bitcoin fan base crossover.

If Andy Kaufman was alive and well he'd post something like this on Twitter and pay out plus send the latecomers' money back just to sow some doubt about whether they're all scams or not.

Lol, I was thinking the other day that Twitter should introduce 2FA for at least blue badge users. Like for every tweet the app sends a message to the user which it automatically verifies before posting. There won't be any inconveniences for the users as the verification will be automated plus it will help in cases where these celebrities get hacked. Whatsapp does it for verifying your cell number, I am sure Twitter can come up with a similar feature.