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Bitcoin => Hardware => Topic started by: philipma1957 on November 13, 2018, 05:54:46 PM



Title: Review of Sidehack's Newpac with comparisons to the 2pac and the compac.
Post by: philipma1957 on November 13, 2018, 05:54:46 PM
Okay I finally got my new Sipolar hub So I can do the review of sidehack's new sticks.

Here is one official stick seller he has 2 links to buy the sticks

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1627698


https://www.ebay.com/itm/GekkoScience-NEWPAC-BM1387-SHA256-Bitcoin-USB-Mining-Stick-New-2PAC-Miner/253271572863?

https://www.419mining.com/shop/miners/gekkoscience-newpac-dual-bm1387-usb-stickminer/




Here is a second official stick seller

 CrazyGuy  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25223
https://asicpuppy.com/magentoPuppy/

I have this hub

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sipolar-10-Port-USB-2-0-Powered-Hub-with-power-supply-5V-20-Amp-2A-per-port/352409900554?

and this hub

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Eyeboot-49-Port-60-Amp-USB-2-0-Hub-iphone-smartphone-charging-station-bundle/112843278687?

here are the nine sticks running

https://i.imgur.com/e1vXyJR.png (https://i.imgur.com/e1vXyJR.png)

I pointed them here

https://i.imgur.com/zzbN2na.png (https://i.imgur.com/zzbN2na.png)


Title: Re: Review of Sidehack's Newpac with comparisons to the 2pac and the compac.
Post by: philipma1957 on November 13, 2018, 06:17:58 PM
Reserve space


Title: Re: Review of Sidehack's Newpac with comparisons to the 2pac and the compac.
Post by: philipma1957 on November 13, 2018, 06:18:22 PM
Reserve space.


Title: Re: Review of Sidehack's Newpac with comparisons to the 2pac and the compac.
Post by: judypug1956 on November 14, 2018, 09:25:24 PM
Note Phil is doing a giveaway (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5070062.0).


Title: Re: Review of Sidehack's Newpac with comparisons to the 2pac and the compac.
Post by: philipma1957 on November 16, 2018, 12:47:47 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5070062.0

give a way was completed thread for giveaway was locked by me.

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I have moved both newpacs to the new sipolar usb hub

purchased from ebay link.

I have set them to  250 freq and I am pointing at bravo mining

http://www.bravo-mining.com/

Contributor Hashrates
Rank   Donor   User Name   TH/s   BTC/Day   USD/Day

1      jonnybravo.........8.091   0.000   0.0000
2      MinerSRQ...........1.501   0.000   0.0000
3      rkotsybar...........0.806   0.000   0.0000
4      tubexc...............0.129   0.000   0.0000
5      philipma1957   0.127   0.000   0.0000 2 sticks do very well
6      bugwash............0.102   0.000   0.0000
7      AB1042503........0.033   0.000   0.0000
8      munkeyminer......0.030   0.000   0.0000
9      mofoq................0.030   0.000   0.0000
10      PhredPhrog   0.020   0.000   0.0000
11      CaptRedeye   0.016   0.000   0.0000

my opinions

these are nice sticks so nice I grabbed a third one and it is on its way
I will set it to the sipolar hub.

the power brick  gives 12 volts at 10 amps.

so 12 x 10 = 120 watts  convert to 5volts since ports are 5 volts

90percent to 95 percent  so   120 x .9 = 108 watts   x .8 for safety  = 86.4 watts  round down to 80 /10 =

8 watts for 10 ports in theory

so here is sidehack's chart

@100MHz was 2.65W, with AsicBoost measured 2.35W.      (default)
@200MHz was 4.66W, with AsicBoost measured 4.20W.      (fan cooled)
@400MHz was 9.63W, with AsicBoost measured 8.38W.      (out of support zone)
@600MHz was 13.62W, with AsicBoost measured 12.45W.  (damage if fan gets tired zone)

looks like 300mhz could work with all 10 ports and good fans


Title: Re: Review of Sidehack's Newpac with comparisons to the 2pac and the compac.
Post by: philipma1957 on November 19, 2018, 04:24:19 PM
So my third newpac arrived today.  I set it to freq 250 and I now have

3 newpacs set to freq 250
1 twopac  set to freq 250

the sipolar hub is working fine so far and I am pulling 41 watts.  hash rate is about 190gh  considering one of the stick is a 2pac and not a compac

I think 4 newpacs would do about 210-220 at 41 watts

since a lot of watts are lost at the brick maybe 80-90% efficient and the 12volt to 5volt in the hub maybe 90%.

I estimate power at the port at 8-8.5 watts per stick

while power at the hub is 10.3 watts a stick  I will need to grab more newpacs to test the hubs limits  but 4 sticks at freq 250 seem good.


Title: Re: Review of Sidehack's Newpac with comparisons to the 2pac and the compac.
Post by: sidehack on November 19, 2018, 04:33:40 PM
Even without AB enabled, unless the core voltage is jacked up a ways or cooling is terrible, you should see more like 6W at the port. I would guess the brick and hub regulators are worse than you're estimating. With good cooling but no AB, 8.5W at the port should get you upwards of 350MHz.


Title: Re: Review of Sidehack's Newpac with comparisons to the 2pac and the compac.
Post by: philipma1957 on November 19, 2018, 06:25:20 PM
Even without AB enabled, unless the core voltage is jacked up a ways or cooling is terrible, you should see more like 6W at the port. I would guess the brick and hub regulators are worse than you're estimating. With good cooling but no AB, 8.5W at the port should get you upwards of 350MHz.

I got meters will do more checking once thanksgiving is over.

bricks suck  so 80% on a brick would not surprise me


Title: Re: Review of Sidehack's Newpac with comparisons to the 2pac and the compac.
Post by: vh on November 19, 2018, 07:12:38 PM
I suspect the 2Pac is also bringing up the average quite a bit.


Title: Re: Review of Sidehack's Newpac with comparisons to the 2pac and the compac.
Post by: sidehack on November 19, 2018, 07:51:37 PM
Good call. That stick's probably around 10W by itself.


Title: Re: Review of Sidehack's Newpac with comparisons to the 2pac and the compac.
Post by: philipma1957 on November 19, 2018, 07:58:30 PM
Good call. That stick's probably around 10W by itself.

I will pull the 2 pac

and kwatt meter dropped from 40.8 to 24.7  so a newpac pulls 8.2 watts at the wall

and the old tired 2pac test model with a silver untreated heat sink was doing about 16 watts at freq 250

so new pacs look better now about 175-180gh and only 24-25 watts


Title: Re: Review of Sidehack's Newpac with comparisons to the 2pac and the compac.
Post by: minefarmbuy on November 20, 2018, 06:56:18 AM
*eating popcorn*