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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: sserge009 on November 15, 2018, 10:51:53 AM



Title: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: sserge009 on November 15, 2018, 10:51:53 AM
Hello! I would like to share my concern about the problem I’ve encountered recently.
October 18, I found a red trust under my account. Starting to understand the situation, I found that the user named "marlboroza" put it. In comment section he said: "Cheater. Accounts Connected: sserge009, BigDig, sevenbits, petrobit." Understanding the situation further, I discovered that the user marlboroza made such a loud statement on the basis that in April in different bounty campaigns, these accounts indicated the same twitter and some identical ethereum wallets. I wrote a message to this user explaining that there is a campaign of crypto enthusiasts who work together. I indicated that we did not violate any forum rules and the intersection of some data can not be precisely considered as cheating. Especially, I noted that the "risk of BTC of the amount" indicated by this user has no basis. We did not deceive anyone and did not take possession of anyone BTC.
This user ignored both my letters and did not enter into any dialogue, so I decided to create this topic. Perhaps someone else suffered from thoughtless actions of this user.

If you look at the marlboroza account, then it becomes clear that the distribution of red trust is the main occupation of this user. In connection with all the above, I want to address the forum users with a question. Since when on our "democratic forum" appeared users who took over the police functions and can unreasonably blame other people for cheating? This user ignores my requests, I received no explanation accordingly.
Summing up, I want to say that I did not expect that the rules of North Korea could arise on our forum. I ask the members of the forum for support and assistance in this situation.


Title: Re: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: Findingnemo on November 15, 2018, 12:41:29 PM
It is not democratic forum,it is privately owned forum.
No one will believes that group of people working together with same ethereum address because this is one of the solid evidence that those accounts were controlled by same person.

marlboroza is a DT member so he is supposed to give negative feedbacks for untrustworthy behaviour of forum people.


Title: Re: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: sserge009 on November 15, 2018, 12:44:46 PM
It is not democratic forum,it is privately owned forum.
No one will believes that group of people working together with same ethereum address because this is one of the solid evidence that those accounts were controlled by same person.

marlboroza is a DT member so he is supposed to give negative feedbacks for untrustworthy behaviour of forum people.
So you saying that the argument of the cheating charges that "no one will believe"? So you can go very far. And what specifically the rules of the forum violates the possession of one ethereum address by several people?
private ownership also does not mean a dictatorship


Title: Re: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: Astargath on November 15, 2018, 01:23:26 PM
It is not democratic forum,it is privately owned forum.
No one will believes that group of people working together with same ethereum address because this is one of the solid evidence that those accounts were controlled by same person.

marlboroza is a DT member so he is supposed to give negative feedbacks for untrustworthy behaviour of forum people.
So you saying that the argument of the cheating charges that "no one will believe"? So you can go very far. And what specifically the rules of the forum violates the possession of one ethereum address by several people?
private ownership also does not mean a dictatorship

This is a forum, you don't have to come here to ''work''. Participating in Bounty Campaigns is hardly work, unless you are translating something. You got caught, it happens.


Title: Re: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: sserge009 on November 15, 2018, 01:26:55 PM
It is not democratic forum,it is privately owned forum.
No one will believes that group of people working together with same ethereum address because this is one of the solid evidence that those accounts were controlled by same person.

marlboroza is a DT member so he is supposed to give negative feedbacks for untrustworthy behaviour of forum people.
So you saying that the argument of the cheating charges that "no one will believe"? So you can go very far. And what specifically the rules of the forum violates the possession of one ethereum address by several people?
private ownership also does not mean a dictatorship

This is a forum, you don't have to come here to ''work''. Participating in Bounty Campaigns is hardly work, unless you are translating something. You got caught, it happens.
Get caught on what? What exactly forum rules have been violated by me and where is even minimal evidence of chimterry?


Title: Re: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: Astargath on November 15, 2018, 01:31:38 PM
It is not democratic forum,it is privately owned forum.
No one will believes that group of people working together with same ethereum address because this is one of the solid evidence that those accounts were controlled by same person.

marlboroza is a DT member so he is supposed to give negative feedbacks for untrustworthy behaviour of forum people.
So you saying that the argument of the cheating charges that "no one will believe"? So you can go very far. And what specifically the rules of the forum violates the possession of one ethereum address by several people?
private ownership also does not mean a dictatorship

This is a forum, you don't have to come here to ''work''. Participating in Bounty Campaigns is hardly work, unless you are translating something. You got caught, it happens.
Get caught on what? What exactly forum rules have been violated by me and where is even minimal evidence of chimterry?

You are not banned, are you? Why are you talking about ''forum rules''? You violated Bounty rules and you got a negative rating for it. The evidence is pretty big, why would you use the same address? What's the point of it? If you guys are ''working'' together it's far easier to use a different address for each one of you. You got caught, stop embarrassing yourself.


Title: Re: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: LeGaulois on November 15, 2018, 02:01:37 PM
It's not about the forum rules, but rather how not trustworthy you're for the forum community. It's a feedback, not a justice decision.

You have to admit someone cheating other forum users is not going to give trust. Whatever you say, crypto enthusiasts working together or not, people can imagine a lot of different stories. If you say you didn't break any forum rule, he hasn't as well.

Yes, it still a democracy, everyone can say his opinion and he did. It can be rude but.. democracy... You would need a stronger argument other than a "friends working together" to convince him probably


Title: Re: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: lrvjvt on November 15, 2018, 02:38:17 PM
Summing up, I want to say that I did not expect that the rules of North Korea could arise on our forum. I ask the members of the forum for support and assistance in this situation.

But no one can help you, only the person who gives you the red mark can cancel it.
Of course, the DT system is a concentration of power. If those DT members can be fair, there is of course no problem, but I am worried that one day DT's power will be abused.
I think that there should be some uniform specifications for DT members, and it should be stipulated under what circumstances to use it. Otherwise, it seems that everyone has different standards.


Title: Re: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: Findingnemo on November 15, 2018, 02:50:21 PM
It is not democratic forum,it is privately owned forum.
No one will believes that group of people working together with same ethereum address because this is one of the solid evidence that those accounts were controlled by same person.

marlboroza is a DT member so he is supposed to give negative feedbacks for untrustworthy behaviour of forum people.
So you saying that the argument of the cheating charges that "no one will believe"? So you can go very far. And what specifically the rules of the forum violates the possession of one ethereum address by several people?
private ownership also does not mean a dictatorship
As other said you are not banned so it doesn't have anything to do with the forum rules so you just tagged because of abusing the forum rules.I am not sure that having one ethereum address by many people is against here and also having multiple accounts as well but the problem is because of you enrolled in multiple bounties.



Title: Re: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: Lauda on November 15, 2018, 03:08:48 PM
Shut up and stop abusing things with your alts.

"crypto enthusiasts"
Also known as: jobless imbeciles willing to abuse anything due to their own greed. ::)


Title: Re: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: marlboroza on November 15, 2018, 04:49:26 PM
This user ignores my requests, I received no explanation accordingly.
How's that? You have perfect explanation in your trust wall (Read comment, click reference, use CTRL+F to find nick, read post)
Can you please update topic with screenshot of this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2460111.msg29029418#msg29029418):

https://i.imgur.com/majH3vB.png

Thank you!

Update:
I forget to mention that you should also include this quote to topic:
  • Using multi-accounts, cheating and spamming are not allowed. It will results getting all of your accounts permanently banned from all my campaigns


Title: Re: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on November 15, 2018, 08:59:07 PM
Since when on our "democratic forum" appeared users who took over the police functions and can unreasonably blame other people for cheating?
So you've had an account registered here in 2013 and you're not familiar with the difference between forum rules and the trust system?  Are you the original owner of this account?

In any case, the only good way to link bounty/campaign abusers is with blockchain evidence.  People claim all sorts of things in situations like this--that there are groups of (as you call them) "crypto enthusiasts" working together, that they're friends, relatives, you name it.  The problem is that this forum is being overrun with members who think bitcointalk is a place of employment and many of them aren't content to participate in just one bounty and have figured out that if you create dozens/hundreds/thousands of accounts, you can make a hell of a lot more money.  Such members are the metastatic cancer of bitcointalk, and you've been identified as a malignant tumor by a DT member.

Shut up and stop abusing things with your alts.

"crypto enthusiasts"
Also known as: jobless imbeciles willing to abuse anything due to their own greed. ::)
That's what I was trying to get across, just a little less abrasively.  Spot-on, though.

It's not about the forum rules, but rather how not trustworthy you're for the forum community. It's a feedback, not a justice decision.
Seems like a member who's been here since 2013 would know the difference.  It really doesn't take that long to figure it out.


Title: Re: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on November 15, 2018, 09:03:30 PM
Lol, different day, same shit going on in this forum. Anyway get used to the red tag now if you really did what you are accused of and I think the evidence is all against you. Take care.


Title: Re: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: Patatas on November 15, 2018, 11:34:34 PM
And what specifically the rules of the forum violates the possession of one ethereum address by several people?
It doesn't violate any forum's rules but I'm sure it would violate the rules and regulations of the campaign you participated in. There is no campaign that allows participating in the bounties with the alt accounts. I can bet you on that.

Participating in Bounty Campaigns is hardly work, unless you are translating something. You got caught, it happens.
Regardless, the point is, clicking buttons 10 times a day from one account isn't a lot of work. Imagine doing the same with the 10 accounts, now that becomes a lot of work. ;D So he's correct!


Title: Re: Our forum is still democratic and free, right?
Post by: OgNasty on November 16, 2018, 02:18:09 AM
"crypto enthusiasts"
Also known as: jobless imbeciles willing to abuse anything due to their own greed. ::)

And the idiotic post of the day award goes to... Lauda!