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government are here for the US dollar. the federal reserve will save the economy when it's going downhill. while bitcoin, the government will try to destroy it. anything standing in the government's way. the government will spread false news. and propaganda. if bitcoin is backed by the US they see it crashing they will surely help bitcoin but that is not being done. bitcoin goes lower ur being manipulated. they are washing out investors. what u need is lots of bitcoin even when prices crash. the stronger ur bitcoins the stronger ur future. manipulated prices not from retail investors but higher power people. bitcoin is going to solve poverty in the future

The bitcoin/blockchain platform/network is decentralized,and thats the government cannot interfere with matters relating to it,other than stopping it's trade on their shores if they deem it unfit..
The bitcoin isn't crashing as you said,there has simply been a dip in price,and that's a normal phenomenon,the prices and unstable
As for the negativity of the press, we've been going through that since the inception of the bitcoin,it didn't stop it's growth,so at this moment,I think it's inconsequential

I don't think governments care about bitcoin price, they may be worried about its existence and try to destroy it but they won't try doing it with the price manipulation because price drops won't kill bitcoin but it may even make it stronger and help some people own a lot more bitcoin than before!

this drop and the drops like it are purely manipulation done by people participating in the market not the government.

I agree. Anonymity is the primary reason why so many people including me decided to invest into this market in the first place. The governments have tried to ban or regulate Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in different ways, but they can never accurately centralize this market due to the nature of cryptocurrencies themselves. The whales are the big players in this market and they manipulate the market in whatever manner they deem suitable for themselves which is why it is useless blaming the government for the volatility of this market.

I'm not manipulated by any government.OP,you should change your thread's title. ;D
Your theory is kinda confusing and all over the place.Maybe it's because of the bad english.
Learn how to write in proper english and then post here.

a government manipulation would be a lot bigger than this and the consequences of it would be a lot bigger. what we are witnessing these days is simply the same old whale manipulation of the market to get the coins out of the weak hands and put it in their own pockets at a cheap price so that they can give it back to them at a higher price when the rise happened and make a profit in this process.

I also don't think that I'm allowing the government to manipulate me. Most of my money is in real estate, cash, cryptocurrency. I don't keep money in the bank and I don't have a lot of cash. The government can't really manipulate me into abandoning cryptocurrencies. Even if they tried I'd rather move under another jurisdiction.

Decentralization has made it much more difficult for any government yo have control over cryptospace else the damage would have been very terrible. The best any government can do now is to spread info about cryptocurrency to deter investors from participating.

What I know is that the perpetrators of price manipulation are those who have very large amounts of coins. So no one can ensure that it is the government or not. What is clear is that only people who have great wealth can manipulate prices perfectly !!

Manipulators only harm many people by making a tremendous panic !!!

But that us not the case, and Bitcoin is decentralized and not backed by any government. So it's reactions would not be linked to gov'ts. There is no witch-hunt aimed at Bitcoin or cryotocurrencies in general.
As an investor you should be up-to-date on latest news and updates and what could cause a drop or an up.

First of all, this is like a clickbait :D. Second, I'm not being manipulated by the government. Who are they?? Stupid aliens who can do some telekinesis with other people. Bullshit.

Before you share some opinions here, explain why did you say this to us. Yeah, the governments can manipulate Cryptocurrency because they are rich. What crypto needs now is mass adoption. Everybody must know that these exists and everybody must use crypto to prevent manipulation.

The whole system is not working in a way that will build enough prosperity for us and the generations after us. I would recommend everyone to have a look at this video "The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind - Hidden Secrets of Money Episode 4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0)", as it is said ' banker (indirectly the government) can steal more money using papers than that of a thug can do with his gun.

the government has a hard time destroying bitcoin because bitcoin cannot be regulated and even monitored by the government, causing the price of bitcoin to fall is only fake news and traders are trying to play the market so that bitcoin is made to be unstable

Your post seems like a half done one, but yes, any government wants to control the citizens and its open secret. and Bitcoin can help us gaining back our financial freedom - true.

The government certainly hates Bitcoin because it can't be controlled by them, but I'm not sure if they also play the price.
Prices are only played by traders who panic with the propaganda news made by state media.

I dont think that govermnets are strongly against bitcoin,if they are,they would already ban everything about it,but as we  can see,thats not the case.Govermenst will certianly want their piece of cake and thats why you see all those KYC and AML lately for every single thing.

what? the government can manipulate cryptocurrency, which I know so far the government has not played crypto and does not even have assets on crypto, but why do you say the government is playing in the crypto community, this is very unrelated and unreasonable

Bitcoin were made for the people to stop the government on controlling the currency.
well as of now i think i am not controllable by any government in terms of my work an investment.
USD will fall and cryptocurrency will place it.
this is true, w will have the next grade of freedom.

USD is very good concerning stability, and it is almost volatile at a shallow level. You can see the influence of Bitcoin is still huge when in the adjustment on November 13 Bitcoin has dragged down the dollar. You can see everything is not really threatening Bitcoin.

It's always Mrs market who will rule. No matter how big the whales are or the manipulators may be, when its the market combine and talk, it will roar if it acts like a lion. Just ride with it and see where you can go.

I don't the government has something to do with the market, besides they really need some serious cash to manipulate the market. Do you think the government would do that without being asking some left and right approval of the highest rank officers in the government? I doubt they would care that much in cryptocurrency but they can't ignore cryptocurrency because it is the one of the most leading newest technology since 2009.

If, in countries 1 of the world, salary from people of 2000-4000 $ they do not need bitcoin, since they can earn money by investing in stocks. Cryptocurrency will be relevant only in the countries of the 3rd world, because we have too high risk of fraud. Accordingly, there is no sense in bitcoin as such. As such, it does not carry an advantage over shares, just once in 5 years x 500 - x4000 will give you money.

the government cannot destroy bitcoin, and I think destroying bitcoin will only make bitcoin more popular.

bitcoin cannot be controlled by a country or group, if it is done then bitcoin has a slow development. and market manipulation certainly does not only come from investors and those in power are higher, but manipulation can also come from hackers.

Everyone and everything on the planet is manipulated by governments, banks, private organizations, etc. Even if Bitcoin is decentralized, there are ways these entities can have a hand on the system. These are very smart people! And they get what they want at the right time. The decentralization of Bitcoin is just a barrier that they intend to break down. It may take a significant amount of time but eventually, they'll get there.

the government may be afraid that bitcoin will have a bad influence on the economy, but what I think so far the government has not interfered with the evidence of bitcoin still floating yet has no legal fixed, the current price decline I think is not due to government interference but more than the impact of saturation because too long waiting for the price of bitcoin to stagnate without significant fluctuations, or maybe this is the market strategy with falling prices expected by many new investors to join, the important thing is not to make the current situation panic
 

The US has a debt mountain they will never be able to pay off. The only way they can save themselves if to embrace bitcoin like venezuela. The price will then mega pump

I also believe that is the reason we are yet to see some stability or at a faster rate but bitcoin will get there soon.


That is for investors who are hodling till the boom in price happens because if you don't have it, it will be very expensive to get for a low income earner.

To me, the government is not interested in manipulating the price of bitcoin. They just want to find a way to kill bitcoin and cryptocurrency as soon as possible.

They are trying killing it while they also are collecting more BTC too because they know they can't kill it. What they can do is spread news and buy. They have all the advantage as they control media and control companies including the exchanges.  I don't think the whales who are trying to accumulate are also going to publish on big media outlets to spread fud.

I would never think that the goverments manipulated the market. If they really want to destroy it they can just do it. The cryptocurrency banned countries govements just banned it and those counries not more then 25 i believe. The other goverments wouldn't ban the cryptos because they want to use it for their own good and searching solutions. So no, i don't agree with on this.

maybe it is also possible, because we as ordinary people who only rely on government policy which is indeed the decision in the hands of the government with price increases or even very high price reductions.

we are just waiting for a decision from the government, because we cannot do anything just waiting for the good news, the crypto world will continue to advance for this era so that it will not die any time.

the government now knows a lot about bitcoin and bitcoin can be closed in several countries because there is abuse if nobody knows and the price of BTC is much lower than before, there must be lots of people investing.

Majority of the Governments don't like bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies because of the decentralized nature of cryptocurrency but there is hardly anything they can do to kill it. For instance, if the price of bitcoin falls as we have had it a few days back, many people will cease the opportunity to buy more bitcoin.

      Bitcoin benefits and is part of a decentralized network. This provides the great advantage that the government or other authorities can not destroy the bitcoin. Perhaps governments have tried in the past to forbid Bitcoin or altcoins, but they have failed because of the nature of cryptocurtures themselves.

I think that the government controls the most part of everyone's life and it is not surprising. As for me, it is normal and I think that it is possible to benefit from this much. To my mind, the role of the government is a bit exagerrated

In order to manipulate the course of Bitcoin, really big money is needed. Especially if the plans to destroy the cryptocurrency, then these funds will be lost forever. I don’t think that the US government or any other country is ready to go for such financial losses for the sake of Bitcoin falling.

No one is named government, but truly, individuals which works in government offices do manipulate, most of them manipulate to favour their selfish interests, while others manipulate to gain power and fame, and this act affect the citizens living under that government, so whoever that live under such government is been manipulate by the government;

But thanks God that bitcoin is decentralized, except that, some bad leader would have try to manipulate it too.

 the thing is to be more easier to say something not work the big but when you are seeing the previous development it can be the best one for all of us but the government not accepting is due to a lots of reasons behind them if it implemented the issue was face is only by them that's why they are still waiting.

This is just a false conspiracy theory that every child can affirm with no arguments to sustain it, no offense. Do you have any evidence or this is just your assumption?

I am not manipulated by any government, i dont trust them 100 percent and that is one main reason why i am here in the community of cryptocurrency.
I want crypto to push forward to replace FIAT, as blockchain and bitcoin is independent and can't control by any government.

I think that goverments don't show a special interest or attention to manipulate bitcoin. They just ignore or neglect bitcoin at this level and try not to include crypto currencies their regulations. But this can't go on so much and they have to change their attitude.

I think because they fear that bitcoin will replace their currency.

When bitcoin at lower price many people said bitcoin have over and many manipulated about bitcoin so far, just wait the best choose for getting bitcoin and altcoin will back to higher price and have got much profit again.

Governments hate what they cannot control so they will do anything they can to block it. The only way through is to donate btc to the decision makers and make them hodlers as well

when the price of bitcoin fell from the beginning of 2018, I already knew that there had been a price game and price manipulation that happened because the government, the government banned receiving bitcoin but the government knew it would make prices fall and it would be used by the government to drop the price of bitcoin .

I agree. It seems to me that without state intervention there definitely wasn’t. Price can not easily fall off. If now we continue to use Bitcoin, invest more in it, then sooner or later, the state will have to accept Bitcoin. We should not give in to political tricks (unless of course they are here)  :(

i think they cannot decrease it anymore.

some governments commit the crime but if you realize it the government only wants bitcoin to collapse and has no more selling value because according to them with the blockchain technology the government feels threatened because it cannot do money laundering and corruption, because all transactions can be seen by the public.

the decline in bitcoin is not purely from the government, the government has never manipulated the price of bitcoin because they are not in it, they only spread fud where it can affect old investors and prevent new investors from entering

Most of the government in our times now majority still not believe and and open into bitcoin. Only few of the countries accept bitcoin and crypto currency. In fact, some of the government are not in favor with digital currency even though they saw some country regulated it already and they're not satisfy yet in this kind of business we had in crypto or bitcoin world.

Well it definitely depends on which government you're talking about in the first place.

I would say that oppressive governments find Bitcoin a lot more annoying than any other for example. When someone says "the government", they normally refer to the U.S. government for some reason, like it's a hidden rule nobody talks about. But they seriously are not against it, otherwise it wouldn't be taxed but forbidden.

They know that it's better to go with it than against it.

I don't think the government sees any risk from Bitcoin, since it's not going to be used by the whole world in any time soon. One thing that government fears and thus inducting this manipulation theory is that crypto allows you to pay and transfer money anonymously which the government does not like.

If it turns out that there is currently government interference in the bitcoin market, I still have confidence. That sooner or later, it will have no meaning. Because I see, more and more people are aware of the advantages of bitcoin

They can and I think they do, with their interest in crypto, it would bring them big money because this market is so volatile.

FUD and hype is part of the crypto for years, people came rushing to buy or do panic to dump, it happens most of the time and even big movement like that, it would correspond to a great profit for the government. Not the government as a whole but the people running it, they are corrupt and they want to take advantage in every possible way, and they are successful because until now, we still recognize that they are the most powerful in the world.

Presently the government is not in power over price manipulation the ones responsible are the big players or whales trying to ridicule its price to shake off the weak investors and use that advantage to grab better bags ,bitcoin is not going to die and its far from death and the worst that can happen is lower price ,that's it

I am not entirely convinced that governments have a army of public servants that are told to spread fud about Bitcoin. The average public servant is just a salary slave and they simply perform the task that they were employed to do.

Most of the fud are being pushed by people with hidden agendas in companies in the private sector that are funding shill armies <media> to spread fud about Bitcoin. <Mostly the companies that are threatened with disruption by Bitcoin>  :P

I would not be so sure of that. The state is ordinary people who want the best for everyone. They are also looking for better ways to solve problems. I don't think they treat Bitcoin like that. Most likely, there is some distrust of Bitcoin by the state. But this is only claimed by the fact that the state doesn't understand how to manage Bitcoin. Also, the state, perhaps, is afraid of the consequences that may occur after Bitcoin becomes more widespread.

Governments are against bitcoin and that is true and there is a major reason for government to announce Bitcoin is illegal and other fault accusations and that is because it is not under any government authority or influence and it is known as an asset not under control and no legitimate statue which can be a risk for the traditional economical systems runs by governments and that is the main reason such announcements are made by governments against Bitcoin to stop expanding further locally and internationally

Soon governments realize the potential of bitcoin and its existence even some are against bitcoin and make obstacles but they all should understand its potential some day and no other currency in the crypto world can face and also survive that bitcoin has faced and I think there are major reasons why it has the capability to do that and one is the demand or power it has gained as the first digital currency in the world and another reason is bitcoin enthusiast because for any currency to be alive there should be users and without that no currency can continue and even bitcoin lost considerable amount of potential holders still there are many users from the beginning until now and that helped bitcoin a lot to survive with these restrictions or barriers

I think every Government of this world is doing that and I think using crypto wouldn't make any difference about it. Unless in the financial world of every country it will.

As we see at the moment, some countries / government really do not want to accept Bitcoin and the rest of the cryptocurrencies, as a means of payment, and also try in every way to manipulate the market. This proves the fact that the SEC is constantly postponing the decision about Bitcoin -ETF, although the decision could positively influence the market recovery.

They state their reason why they don't accept but we can never know if they will try to manipulate it or not, it's never proven.
If you are anti government and pro crypto at the same time, maybe you can convince yourself that they are manipulating to prevent adoption.
That's already out of our control, certain companies applied for approval and it's the SEC decision whether to approve or deny it.

We all are, and i think that's the worst. Crypto is our escape and they're doing their best to manipulate it as well, the government wanted to control us using the ways they know. If people are smart enough then they won't let the government do so.

Bitcoin is a decentralized currency and I think government cannot manipulated those currency who are decentralized specially bitcoin because as you can see, the price of bitcoin right now is definitely low and the government can't do anything to make it higher. And I think bitcoin will not be crashed since it has many investors and traders.