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Hello world,,, im is real Apriand, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669062 (that is my main account before i lost it long time ago).
I have follow the rules here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0 (long time ago) but no respond until now.
I will sign messagi in the end of my post here to make proof if im really apriand.

Actually that account doesnt really hacked, but i get chaeted about that account. I was busy that time, and need money to pay my loan with Parodium. Then someone call me in telegram (he is from my country) to help me. He give me little money to pay back my loan but he want that account under his control for a month. all deal and he call me almost everyday, but after a month my account not back to me and he runaway, all social media (telegram and whatsapp deleted by him) and i lost my account. May be he already sell thats account, but i sent pm for apriand about who control that account also no respond.

I know its my mistake, may be its almost impossible to get back that account for me (although still hope in my mind because only that one my account here, and this one my alt). But at least everyone know, if that account isnt under Apriand control, so if someone deal something with that account not deal with me.

Here my sign message :




-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Im Apriand from bitcointalk.org today is november 19, 2018.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1GwqXVkMYGqGwcEdr3eqNoXnWHEbjdqCL4
H+sMhR8ZkaF9ZwoGILvSNhr5B0+aAj1r4+brqfT3K/NTOXhKr8k/EM5+cWpmq0OKQviqrjyfAET1l4/s5I1jGQw=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Yes, look like you are original owner of "Apriand" account. You have used previously this address on yahoo campaign . Here is proof.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1855762.msg18575947#msg18575947 and your sign message has verified (https://brain-wallet.org/#verify?vrAddr=1GwqXVkMYGqGwcEdr3eqNoXnWHEbjdqCL4&vrMsg=Im%20Apriand%20from%20bitcointalk.org%20today%20is%20november%2019%2C%202018.&vrSig=H%2BsMhR8ZkaF9ZwoGILvSNhr5B0%2BaAj1r4%2BbrqfT3K%2FNTOXhKr8k%2FEM5%2BcWpmq0OKQviqrjyfAET1l4%2Fs5I1jGQw%3D). DT might help you by tagging account. Recover your account is too complicated. Try to convince current holder. I think current holder will contact you if any DT tag account.

However, what you did it's equal to sold account. If current owner show proof that he bought account from you then there is no chance to get back your account since it has  allowed by forum rules. But yes , account will be useless by the way. Obviously The Pharmacist will tag due to account trade .

I have tagged account. PM me with sign message if you can recover successfully. Someone from can tag if they want to help.

So in other words,the account was used as a collateral to collect a loan from the said individual,judging by your input above, or a swap deal for money,in exchange for that account for a month,probably for a signature bounty campaign(hardly anyone ends in a month though), as the loanee would be able to rack up much from it(7 stakes precisely per week)
You really shouldn't entrust a legendary account into the hands of a total stranger in an anonymous system such as ours..
Such deals can only be carried out with a trusted member on the forum,or with the supervision of one, so incase of a mishap,a DT could leave a red trust easily..

At this point I doubt if a DT will be able to leave a red trust on that account,as there happens to be no proof of the details of the deal/agreements,we could be sure it's your account,but we do not know under what circumstances you gave the account out..
It's simply your word against whoever is in control of it....

     It's sad to know about your lost account. I might not be in the best position for this but from my view you saw bitcointalkforum as a means to achieve wealth(bounty hunting) alone that's why you offered it as a collateral in the first place you bastardized it by that action and it's totally wrong. I hope you get it back and refrain from such

Already the old address was verified and if we see the trust page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=669062) of Apriand the we can find that email and password were changed recently so it is a sign that account was changed hands.

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Any way that account will be tagged forever because which is same as account selling and will not be trusted by our DT members.

It will be hard for you to recover that account OP. I bet DT also will have difficulties to tagged your account for negative trust because stories could be made up. We can't really figure out the whole story of the account because there might be another version for this like you just sold your account to that someone and wishes you can get it back by posting here in this section.

If I were you OP post more evidence to convince the DT's around that are also reading your post like provide screenshot of  the conversations being made from the one who let you borrowed money from. A screenshot also for your loan on Parodium so as to prove your story right that you have been to a loan with that user. Gather it all here and post in this thread you made. For sure there could be a high chance that your account will be recover by letting that account tagged with red trust and you will have to deal again like paying that someone you owe with interest might help him/her to push through the deal. Just make some effort so that you can take back your account. You have a good rank in that account but sad to say it is in the hands of the other user.

Good Luck OP, hope you can recover your account here.

I usually would try to help anyone who was a not a scammer (not that I could help with this matter anyway). Which you do not seem to be.

However letting anyone else buy or use your account is not something I can say is responsible to other members of this board.

Especially a legend or hero account.

My fear about people selling or lending them out is that people could use that rank to gain some trust from others and that could potentially lead to scamming. I am not saying the account seller is essentially a scammer but it shows to me lack of concern for this happening. If I was new here and I thought I was dealing with a legend account I would probably trust them more than if I realised they hacked or bought the account the day before.

I do not support account sales or hiring out on that basis. I have actually seen accounts flagged with neg trust for this which I do semi agree with actually or at least some indication that person running that account now is not the person that gain the legendary rank.

I think it will be unlikely to get your account back.

Although I am not judging you. If a person is in desperate need of money then only they can know the pressure they are under to take certain actions. It is sad you lost your legend account I hope you can rebuild a new account over time.

I know what i did is wrong, thats why is just want everyone know if that account is not under my control. May be its to hard if i want build new account like that because need long time  and so many merit point to be legend member. I hope thats is my first also my last mistake in this forum. I really dont want to selling or hiring that account (if someone can acces that account pm you will find, someone ask to buy my account in pm but i answer "i wont to sell this account because trust is more than everything" in pm). I just need money to pay my loan with parodium that time, but its too late and my account was gone. So if someone deal with that account thats not me.

Also im so sorry with bitcointalk community and bitcointalk admin about my mistake, I really sorry about that.

Apriand

I am here for the last about one year.  I have read and also even experienced cheaters cheating and scamming innocent people.  I think only more than 100% extra cautious people can survive  and remain safe here.
Because account selling is allowed here; the person holding the account may claim having purchased it.

How do we know you didn't just sell the account and are now just trying to claim it back? Regardless, the chances of you having it restored are slim to none so you're likely going to be wasting your time even trying to get it back. The best you can hope for is the automatic recovery tool theymos is working on.

Its the proof im not selling thats account but in my language,

WA chat with him

https://prnt.sc/lka0u0

Thread archived (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5071715.0), message verified (https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=1GwqXVkMYGqGwcEdr3eqNoXnWHEbjdqCL4&vrMsg=Im%20Apriand%20from%20bitcointalk.org%20today%20is%20november%2019%2C%202018.&vrSig=H%2BsMhR8ZkaF9ZwoGILvSNhr5B0%2BaAj1r4%2BbrqfT3K%2FNTOXhKr8k%2FEM5%2BcWpmq0OKQviqrjyfAET1l4%2Fs5I1jGQw%3D) and staked address archived (https://archive.is/3jAJp#selection-8599.11-8576.16).

We can't know, and that's one of many reasons why account sales are discouraged.

I'll leave red trust on the account, which I'll remove when either the real owner signs a message to prove he regained control, or when the account buyer can sign a message proving he bought the private key to the staked address with the account.
Reminder to myself: when removing the red trust, I'll leave neutral trust as a reminder the account was temporarily under someone else's control.

Thank you for your help. I hope if someone buy that account from who cheating me he/ she will contact me and want to discuss with me.

Hello community, now this account is back to me. My recovery account is success thanks for everyone who help me to get back this account. Thanks for bitcointalk admin and staff.

To DT member who give this account red trust i hope you could remove this red trust from my account, thank you so much.

Here my sign message:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I'm Apriand from bitcointalk.org. Today is February 19, 2019.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1GwqXVkMYGqGwcEdr3eqNoXnWHEbjdqCL4
H2on1bRDTCNGfx/snNW+/A7aT/SYHK4c74yb2wUSGpl0alsQPjYu6lIFaqlmDbHiPBkATot16n1QRmPOZnUCmPw=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

You will want to message each DT member individually and point them to this thread. That will be the easiest way to get the red removed, and provide them proof it's back in your possession.

Congrats on your account recovery.

Thank you, already did that. Now i just wait my neg trust removed by DT member.

Congrats for get your Account back !

Looks like the Account recovery team doing a good job the last weeks !   ;D

Welcome back, I have removed my feedback since you have done account recovery successfully. I just confirm from sec log (https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php),


However I had received PM without this post link, please send PM to other DT with post link. I just found it from your post history. Anyway seems recovery team working fine. Take care..

Thank you so much for your help, i hope it will also help me with others DT to remove my negative trust.

Ok. I removed my negative feedback. Congratulations on your return!

In this case this can't be applied?

Because user tried to sell his account literally for his need and I have seen many have tagged for attempt of selling but in this case want to see the stance of DT members. ::)

Confirmed! Welcome back :)

I've left a neutral tag as reference. You may want to remove all posts that you didn't make, so you won't get banned for plagiarism later on.

Ok i'll do that after i come home, i'll remove all thats posts. Thank you so much for all DT members who help me with negative trust until this account back to me and remove that now, thanks to bitcointalk community and recovery team.

Edit : already did. all not my original posts deleted except 2 topic where i cant delete because that topic started by this account.
How to delete that i dont know, may be i just lock that posts.

And now reported that 2 posts to moderator.

Lock the thread and also edit the Op statement to state something like "deleted." You can also move it to archive as well.

Done, all not my original posts deleted by moderator now. Thanks all for your help. Now its all my original posts.

Base on this https://archive.fo/PfY07#selection-499.0-499.317 I think OP sold the account and later claiming it or has not got full payment or not got payment then trying to restore. Note: Right now the account has been restored base on his/her signature.

As far as I know, He/s has given evidence of the conversation from WhatsApp as proof that He/s did not sell his account

I'm Indonesian and I can understand the conversation
In the conversation : "Basically, the lender did not ask for refunds. but instead, the lender will use the account to join Bounty until getting ROI+Profits (rent an account). then it will be considered paid off"

Note for OP : maybe you must show the exact date of the conversation in WhatsApp and the discussion about "Apriand" account (if possible)

SO it is one type of collateral where borrower gave the permission to take part on a bounty. In the meantime, the lender could make other scams which have not made, though the lender shows his scam behavior that's why arpind has to recover his account.

here exact date https://prnt.sc/mudj3a
and you are right about my conversation, and to prevent this thread for spam or something like that because its now clear i'll lock this thread now ( i cant lock this topic may be someone can help me to lock) its enough reply and problem solved.

edit : now i remember i made this topic with my lat account, now i'll lock this topic with my alt. Thanks all to help me get back this account.