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Title: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: TimeBits on November 23, 2018, 06:31:12 AM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: nicster551 on November 23, 2018, 07:39:05 AM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

Yes I would. Since we all are still going to die someday, why won't we try something new for a change of our lives? You shouldn't always believe on those conspiracy theories.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: sunsilk on November 23, 2018, 08:39:01 AM
First time of hearing this time-based currency, exchanging goods and services for time as money? (correct me if I misunderstood the link).

And with your question, I'm not going to give my fingerprint or eye scan to anyone even for a fair money supply in exchange. It's like selling your identity, fingerprints are unique and I think the same goes for eye scan. The link you provided is interesting though.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: TimeBits on November 23, 2018, 09:46:02 AM
First time of hearing this time-based currency, exchanging goods and services for time as money? (correct me if I misunderstood the link).

And with your question, I'm not going to give my fingerprint or eye scan to anyone even for a fair money supply in exchange. It's like selling your identity, fingerprints are unique and I think the same goes for eye scan. The link you provided is interesting though.

yes you trade time for time or goods and services
yes that is the point they are unique, tie them to a address and now you have a digital passport (no more counterfeit people)

do you wear gloves in public and a blindfold?



Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: odolvlobo on November 23, 2018, 09:53:15 AM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

Time-based currencies have not worked in the past, so I'm curious to see what you come up with. I'm also curious to see your criteria for judging fairness.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: TimeBits on November 23, 2018, 09:53:40 AM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

Yes I would. Since we all are still going to die someday, why won't we try something new for a change of our lives? You shouldn't always believe on those conspiracy theories.

I assume your talking about the like rfid chip new world order conspiracy theories yes that is backwards engineering scare tactics.

seems better no? instead of having governments borrowing money from private banking family and everyone working for in exchange for their money supply, everyone just trades their own time 24 hours a day 24 bits a day, just need a way so people cannot make duplicate accounts.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: TimeBits on November 23, 2018, 10:01:12 AM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

Time-based currencies have not worked in the past, so I'm curious to see what you come up with. I'm also curious to see your criteria for judging fairness.


what do you mean judging fairness? everyone creates the same amount of duration each day unless they are enterprising and selling goods and services then they can obtain more time in the bank.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: eternalgloom on November 23, 2018, 10:05:56 AM
Probably not actually, that's way too much personal data to give away.
I'm someone who's even very hesitant to give regular KYC to exchanges, so I'd probably never give away a fingerprint or eye scan.

Besides, what kind of 'fair money supply' are we talking about here?
Hundreds of dollars per month? Thousands? Less?


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: TimeBits on November 23, 2018, 10:26:52 AM
Probably not actually, that's way too much personal data to give away.
I'm someone who's even very hesitant to give regular KYC to exchanges, so I'd probably never give away a fingerprint or eye scan.

Besides, what kind of 'fair money supply' are we talking about here?
Hundreds of dollars per month? Thousands? Less?

do you wear gloves and a blindfold when you go out in public?

no dollars, just time around the same rate as welfare/disability or basic income


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on November 23, 2018, 10:37:49 AM
How is your system going to known that a sample I've provided actually belongs to me or at least some other human, and wasn't procedural generated?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/15/fake-fingerprints-can-imitate-real-fingerprints-in-biometric-systems-research

So far no one has managed to securely tie physical person to an online identity, and it seems like biometric information is not a solution, as it can easily be faked to create bots.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: TimeBits on November 23, 2018, 11:06:33 AM
How is your system going to known that a sample I've provided actually belongs to me or at least some other human, and wasn't procedural generated?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/15/fake-fingerprints-can-imitate-real-fingerprints-in-biometric-systems-research

So far no one has managed to securely tie physical person to an online identity, and it seems like biometric information is not a solution, as it can easily be faked to create bots.

you would have to tie it to a birth certificate, heck I would give my piss and blood.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: odolvlobo on November 23, 2018, 11:06:45 AM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account
would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency
Time-based currencies have not worked in the past, so I'm curious to see what you come up with. I'm also curious to see your criteria for judging fairness.
what do you mean judging fairness? everyone creates the same amount of duration each day unless they are enterprising and selling goods and services then they can obtain more time in the bank.

It looks like you are designing a currency with built-in basic income, similar to Nimses (https://nimses.com/).

My first thought is that the amount of money you receive for just being alive would be only a tiny fraction of the amount you would receive by working (because of the huge difference in economic value). It would be similar to the difference in income between working at a job and visiting crypto faucets.

As a result, I don't think it would be worth registering for.

As for fairness, since the basic income portion would be small, it would have only a small influence on wealth distribution, which I assume is a criteria for fairness.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: xuan87 on November 23, 2018, 12:31:03 PM
No, I think I like to keep my privacy, by giving finger print, it's going to reveal the identity, and some people even may used it for a bad purpose, once the bad guy start to spread something bad then it will be hard to take care the problem, so no matter how much money being offered I prefer live in a peaceful life


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: davis196 on November 23, 2018, 01:00:20 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

OP,how come the time-based-currency theory has something to do with fingerprints and eye scans?
I won't give my fingerprints for payment system,because such sensitive data can be stolen and used for crimes.The time-based-currency theory is what it is.An abstract uthopia,nothing more...



Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: bob123 on November 23, 2018, 01:12:53 PM
Honestly, i would never give away my biometric data (doesn't matter if fingerprint, eye scan or anything else) voluntarily.

Especially not via some online form just to receive a few bucks  ::)

Anyone in possession of such data has a lot potential for fraud. That's not worth a few bucks..
Any ICO / Coin distriution / whatever which requires this to 'make sure each person only participates once' screams scam for me..


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: stompix on November 23, 2018, 08:02:47 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

OP,how come the time-based-currency theory has something to do with fingerprints and eye scans?
I won't give my fingerprints for payment system,because such sensitive data can be stolen and used for crimes.The time-based-currency theory is what it is.An abstract uthopia,nothing more...



Because he wants to ensure that each person holds only one identity in the chain and it's not abused by bots.
This would be the only way his utopia where people are getting money just because they live will not be destroyed in seconds by a botnet.

So, it will take a few months instead.
All those socialist programs have ended badly and they will end badly in the future also, there is no such thing as endless free money when the source is someone else's pocket


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: dothebeats on November 23, 2018, 08:38:21 PM
Are we talking about a couple million dollars here? If so, count me in! Just provide a legal copy of our agreement that you would not use my biometrics in other purposes apart from verification.

Jk, I wouldn't give up half my identity for money knowing how many people are having their identities hacked and used in nefarious activities on and off the internet. I'm already hesitant on doing KYC requests, how much more in situations such as this wherein I'm not sure what's going to happen with my biometrics?


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: BlueStackz on November 27, 2018, 05:00:59 AM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency
I wouldn't give my name. Literally just my first name. Whenever I join an exchange or get a new coin and what not if they have KYC I get away from that as further as possible. I am not sharing my first name with anyone for a chance to trade my coins, there is no way I would give my fingerprint or eye scan for money supply. You would have to convince me that I will not have to work ever again in my entire life to allow doing such a thing.

I literally do not deal with phone sellers even if I like what they are selling and instead go to the store myself to get it if I like the product instead of ordering from the phone. You should not underestimate the privacy issues people have with the current world before you try to start something that makes it even worse. Look at facebook, they have been under investigation for a while even when they do not have any fingerprint or eye scan type control.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Johnzky on November 27, 2018, 05:30:16 AM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency
If you can assures me that this will never use for taking advantage or in criminal and illegal activities then i will probably give my fingerprints or eye scan because i believe that if we are not into cheating theres nothing wrong to assure the company or the individuals about our single personality.if this s the only way for assurances both partyís then i will go for this


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: TimeBits on November 28, 2018, 05:35:44 AM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency
If you can assures me that this will never use for taking advantage or in criminal and illegal activities then i will probably give my fingerprints or eye scan because i believe that if we are not into cheating theres nothing wrong to assure the company or the individuals about our single personality.if this s the only way for assurances both partyís then i will go for this

yes It would only be to 2fact/auth that you do not have two accounts.

When you go anywhere in public you give up a full picture of yourself, touch anything in public and your prints are public domain.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: imToken on November 29, 2018, 07:40:11 AM
This seems to be avant-garde, which makes me think that the city is beginning to become smart, but I believe this will become a reality in the future. In the future, it can be paid by eye scan or face scan payment. These are great internet contributions. For example, this year's fingerprint phone.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: taratorly on November 29, 2018, 08:21:04 AM
We are giving much more than for KYC. We are sharing our identify info and images for KYC. We do that for airdrop sometimes which value is only $3-5!


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: The Pharmacist on November 29, 2018, 08:34:27 AM
I wouldn't like to willingly provide fingerprints, but it seems like nowadays government and corporations are requiring them for a lot of things--so it's hard to keep fingerprints out of the hands (no pun intended) of the big institutions.  I don't know much about eye scans, other than they're just a fingerprint substitute, but I'd be paranoid about the facial recognition aspect of it.  But again, that's another thing that's going to be very difficult to keep private.

And as far as giving up either my fingerprints or a retinal scan to some anonymous internet project spouting something about "fair money supply"?  Hell fucking no.  I wouldn't provide you with my hair color, much less any other tool for identity thieves.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Ranly123 on November 29, 2018, 08:39:10 AM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

Yes I would. Since we all are still going to die someday, why won't we try something new for a change of our lives? You shouldn't always believe on those conspiracy theories.

It's your belief. Yes we all are going to die anyway but atleast we will not be robbed because of our hypocracy. Giving out your biometrics is just like letting those scumbags take away your data and even giving them permission to open your accounts which needs your biometrics. Have a s nse of security for your personal datas or else you will lose not just your life but also your belongings.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: TimeBits on November 30, 2018, 05:54:14 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

Yes I would. Since we all are still going to die someday, why won't we try something new for a change of our lives? You shouldn't always believe on those conspiracy theories.

It's your belief. Yes we all are going to die anyway but atleast we will not be robbed because of our hypocracy. Giving out your biometrics is just like letting those scumbags take away your data and even giving them permission to open your accounts which needs your biometrics. Have a s nse of security for your personal datas or else you will lose not just your life but also your belongings.

so you wear a full burka and gloves in public at all times?


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: maxreish on March 16, 2019, 11:33:00 AM
It depends. If both party signed an agreement that the confidentiality should not be shared and executed out and if you will guarantee that you'll be accountable and reaponsible for any unethical acts then, i would agree. I must be wise sharing such personal data as fingerprint or eye scan as it can be use in some awful way.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: talkbitcoin on March 16, 2019, 03:10:51 PM
as for supply if we had no other way of creating a fair amount of it and have control over it then maybe but i would still be hesitant to do something like that. now we already have good ways of controlling the supply, look at bitcoin and how that works.

as for distribution of the supply, the currency should NOT worry about or even be responsible for the distribution of its supply! it is not a charity giving away money to people! everyone has to earn their way.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: finaleshot2016 on March 16, 2019, 04:05:22 PM
Nope, there's new advanced technology that can copy and re-create that unique information from our body. You can create a lot of 'cause because of that, you should embed your personal identity(biometric information) only to trusted agency/government. If that's possible, I can be you, I can create a lot of problems with your name on it and personal identities like your fingerprint.

So it's obviously no.



Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: kodtycoon on March 16, 2019, 04:20:09 PM
that is your right as a gift giver, all rules must be obeyed by all bounty hunters but how the hunter is willing or not. eye scanning I think is too exaggerate if the gift given is very small, well by the way honestly everyone must have their own privacy worried about fear of being misused by irresponsible parties


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: eaLiTy on March 16, 2019, 09:11:59 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account
would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
I would not want to reveal each and every detail of my personal life to anyone let alone to a third party, finger print and eye scan are with any government who have a national ID and from what i understand every major national will be having one and hence no one is excepted from it and if i have to do the same thing i really would not mind as i have given my finger print as part of national security but i do not want any third eye following me because of that. :P


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on March 16, 2019, 09:20:28 PM
Asking for KYC is already to much for most people using exchanges so why do you think someone would offer their fingerprint or eye scan to a company with no legal paperworks behind? Your idea could work maybe in the future but right now this seems to complicated for most people to understand and that's why you will not find enough users to trust you.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Hamphser on March 16, 2019, 10:10:17 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account
would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
I would not want to reveal each and every detail of my personal life to anyone let alone to a third party, finger print and eye scan are with any government who have a national ID and from what i understand every major national will be having one and hence no one is excepted from it and if i have to do the same thing i really would not mind as i have given my finger print as part of national security but i do not want any third eye following me because of that. :P
People do opposes on such idea but without even thinking that fingerprint is already being given out to authorities already with their ID or even just having that
traditional election voting which do required such verification.Talking about an eye following you then it wont be a surprise thing because they do already had such information about you.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: CaVO32 on March 16, 2019, 11:00:25 PM
I wouldn't like to willingly provide fingerprints, but it seems like nowadays government and corporations are requiring them for a lot of things--so it's hard to keep fingerprints out of the hands (no pun intended) of the big institutions.  I don't know much about eye scans, other than they're just a fingerprint substitute, but I'd be paranoid about the facial recognition aspect of it.  But again, that's another thing that's going to be very difficult to keep private.

And as far as giving up either my fingerprints or a retinal scan to some anonymous internet project spouting something about "fair money supply"?  Hell fucking no.  I wouldn't provide you with my hair color, much less any other tool for identity thieves.

absolutely agree with you here! maybe we are giving our fingerprints or eye scans to our government but to an unknown project in cyberspace promising a "fair money supply", of course big NO for my answer! we really don't know his ultimate motive for this kind of procedure and we don't know if this coin will really take off or not. what is his guarantee that this will be of worth in the future? and even if he laid out his detailed plans and all, still i will not be convinced to give the identity that is all i ever have.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: kryptqnick on March 17, 2019, 01:47:28 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency
Wow, I thought the time-based 'money' existed only as fiction in, say, 'In Time' movie. So you are trying to make it updates, perhaps a time-currency blockchain? I would not be too comfortable with an eye scan, because I don't like to see bright light and stuff like that, so I'd avoid additional exposure like this, but fingerprint is a fine way of confirming identity. I wonder how many people are interested in this time distribution conception is general. Are you developing this thing for a specific project or is it more of an experiment?


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Ucy on March 17, 2019, 04:57:32 PM
Depends on what they want to do with my biometrics, who is accessing the biometrics and where they will store it. I dont think i will coporate with people  who store biometrics information on centralized platforms.
 And I will not accept if they have an  agenda that could potentially violate the ideals of cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Btchunter3333 on March 17, 2019, 05:10:30 PM
Depends for how much money, i will give if i think is enough paid, but only if the fingerprint and eye scan will not be used on bad ways, and i will need a guarantee for.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: wuvdoll on March 17, 2019, 05:31:37 PM
I don't understand people who say yes, I mean I don't care about the amount, it could be 1 billion dollars all at once in my bank account very legit, governments and taxes all taken care of, just liquid cash 1 billion dollars in my bank account to spend however I want and I still wouldn't give my fingerprint and eye scan for it.

The reason is not that I am a private person, I can give all that to a friend if he just asks, but giving it for money just implies that they need it for something bad, I mean if its something decent and need data of it than they can collect from around the world for five bucks or something but obviously it will be used for bad stuff and that is why they are paying for it and I would stay away from it and stay away from being connected to people like it.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: daarul50 on March 17, 2019, 06:12:28 PM
I will give the identity of fingerprints and eye detection but can you guarantee the security of the storage because people do not want if one day the identity they give is misused for negative things.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Kakmakr on March 17, 2019, 06:38:54 PM
So your plan is to use Biometric data to verify people's identity, before you grant them a small "faucet" type income? I am just wondering what a criminal might be able to do with that kind of data? Let's say this kind of identification become the norm in the future, to withdraw cash from a wallet or a ATM, would criminals not be able to "'clone" that fingerprint or retina scan to access wallets or coins on ATMs?

Interesting project and a good method to collect biometric data for law enforcement purposes.  ;D


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: DAVETUN on March 19, 2019, 10:13:15 PM
Depending on individual and project developer requesting  for the fingerprint or eye scan,releasing personal data is dependent on how you can trust developer. To avoid  being scam it is better to research before investing.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Bitcoin-Turkiye on March 19, 2019, 11:06:09 PM
 fingerprint or eye scan  a very good thought, thus, theft is minimized.. but how will the exchanges send this coin? will they use eye scan or fingerprint for each process? I think big stock markets can't deal with it.. but a great idea for personal use.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: andriarto on March 20, 2019, 02:14:38 AM
fingerprint or eye scan  a very good thought, thus, theft is minimized.. but how will the exchanges send this coin? will they use eye scan or fingerprint for each process? I think big stock markets can't deal with it.. but a great idea for personal use.
right. the more specific that can be developed so that security is maintained. the presence of fingerprints or eyes certainly makes hackers more difficult to penetrate, so it is expected that the user's wallet security remains safe


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on March 20, 2019, 11:55:19 AM
I don't think this is for me. The article was kinda limited but I'd rather just work for a crypto that appreciates in value so I can eventually spend my time NOT working. Also don't like the biometric part.

How is the hour credit priced and earned anyway? Just work for an hour and get an hour's worth of credit?

Let's say I work an hour transcribing some doctor's recordings and I then get 1 currency (let's call it ChronoCoin for example). Since this coin is in theory worth an hour's service, wouldn't it be unfair if I pay someone 1 ChronoCoin to have someone to clean my house for an hour?


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Vaskiy on March 20, 2019, 12:13:20 PM
Fingerprint and eye scan is the one that provides with the individuality. People who always prefer to be anonymous won't go with this fair money supply. As most of the users mentioned, end of the day what we are looking for is an earning. With this into mind I'll give my fingerprint and eye scan.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: tonyja2017 on March 20, 2019, 01:17:06 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

Yes I would. Since we all are still going to die someday, why won't we try something new for a change of our lives? You shouldn't always believe on those conspiracy theories.
How can you put your trust in him? The decentralized market has many scammers and they can do many ways to steal money or steal your information.
I think you should be alert to such personal demands.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: St4yInTh3D4rk on March 20, 2019, 05:04:59 PM
I am not going to give my individual identity to anyone for the sake of getting some bucks,do you know how much this worse can do for you?

Even you can find your identities selling on the darknet which will be used for crimes so at the end you will be called as criminal eventually so don't do it bro.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: StephenJH on March 20, 2019, 05:06:42 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

Yes I would. Since we all are still going to die someday, why won't we try something new for a change of our lives? You shouldn't always believe on those conspiracy theories.
How can you put your trust in him? The decentralized market has many scammers and they can do many ways to steal money or steal your information.
I think you should be alert to such personal demands.
Darknets are full of such deals about the collection of personal data.  Markets are full of scammers and they are looking for new wise options for scamming more and get rich with selling other's personal data.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Oceat on March 20, 2019, 11:51:05 PM
Why would someone need to give their personal unique identity to someone who's not so reputable and not a well-known company? It's a breach of personal security to give it to someone that doesn't give you a credibility that you can trust them. They need to prove their services first in public before doing so over here. Personal security is something that you have to give assurance to the public that it won't be used against them or any other means of exploiting it.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: orions.belt19 on March 20, 2019, 11:55:51 PM
No, I wouldn't. Bio metrics is crucial and private information. It can be used in criminal ways so I won't be willing to give it away just for some cash. Or any private information for that matter. Your own privacy and security shouldn't be bought so easily. Even when I'm struggling financially, I won't be so willing to give away my finger prints or eye scans just like that even if money was involved. Its like selling your own unique identity. Plus, I find it kind of sketchy since what gain would you get from this information?


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: vintages on March 21, 2019, 02:33:17 AM
fingerprint or eye scan  a very good thought, thus, theft is minimized.. but how will the exchanges send this coin? will they use eye scan or fingerprint for each process? I think big stock markets can't deal with it.. but a great idea for personal use.

I seriously don't think it worth it, its sea too much information to display. To me, even KYC is too much though not to talk of an eye scan and a top print.
Moreover, it makes no sense because it may require every individual to be present there but if they do it on an app or so. There is still Chances the individuals might alter it by using another instead of theirs.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Oasisman on March 21, 2019, 03:04:15 AM
Why would someone need to give their personal unique identity to someone who's not so reputable and not a well-known company? It's a breach of personal security to give it to someone that doesn't give you a credibility that you can trust them. They need to prove their services first in public before doing so over here. Personal security is something that you have to give assurance to the public that it won't be used against them or any other means of exploiting it.

Very well said man! Thats like envading privacy. Service proof first before anything else. In this generation you can trust no one, and your identity would be the most critical once it is stolen.
Even KYC got a lot of complains, how much more if youre asking for finger print and eye scanned or any biometrics.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Polar91 on March 21, 2019, 04:24:59 AM
I wouldn't no matter how big his offfer is. Who would know on where will he/she use it. I don't let someone to use me in doing such shady activity specially when fooling other around. Giving your unique identity to them is like selling yourself to them.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: sana54210 on March 21, 2019, 08:00:07 AM
fingerprint or eye scan  a very good thought, thus, theft is minimized.. but how will the exchanges send this coin? will they use eye scan or fingerprint for each process? I think big stock markets can't deal with it.. but a great idea for personal use.
right. the more specific that can be developed so that security is maintained. the presence of fingerprints or eyes certainly makes hackers more difficult to penetrate, so it is expected that the user's wallet security remains safe
Well I do not know much about eye scanners but for fingerprints, even though it looks effective, it does not mean that it is infallible. They also make mistakes and itís not 100% faultless. Optical scanners will not always be able to differentiate between pictures of a finger and finger itself but captive scanners can be sometimes fooled by a mold of a personís finger. I feel the scanner can be tricked by anyone if they get access to the authorized users print.

Like you mentioned that the wallet would be safe, but I think some hackers can even cut off somebodyís finger just to get pass a security system, though am aware there are scanners that have pulse and heat sensors to detect a living finger but it can still be manipulated by a gelatin print mold. So, itís not even as if it gives 100% security, just that this ones will not be addressed as hackers but robbers, but itís still not that safe because anyone can rob ones wallet that way


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: gabmen on March 21, 2019, 03:55:25 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

Probably no. I like your idea but i think i'd have to compromise a lot in security if i do that. It's not only scary for myself but for my family as well.i'm fairly confident i can provide well when it comes to finances so no.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: mornabo on March 21, 2019, 08:09:17 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

Yes I would. Since we all are still going to die someday, why won't we try something new for a change of our lives? You shouldn't always believe on those conspiracy theories.
Very easy for you to give such a thing? even though in the future all houses, wallets, safety boxes are locked with fingerprint or eyescan so it is safer. I won't do that just because of a bounty, if they want to verify the data because they would like to avoid abusing, then they can try KYC



Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: magneto on March 22, 2019, 11:27:50 PM
Your idea is still not failproof. Also, just because everyone is limited to one address/account doesn't mean that the money supply is fair.

Furthermore, for this idea to ever work, there needs to be a central entity which has to verify the legitimacy of each piece of identity verification. Whether we can trust this central entity to do their job is up to debate.

I simply don't see the benefits of doing this. You are not directly controlling the currency supply, and there is no mechanism in place that could ever control someone having multiple addresses/accounts. Also as I mentioned, the fact that you're essentially discarding the entire idea of decentralisation.

I think BTC's decentralised currency supply is all we need at the moment when it comes to controlling it. There is no need to do anything further than capping the supply at a point and enforcing it in a decentralised manner, so that no one is able to manipulate it.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Pumapipa on June 03, 2019, 09:05:57 AM
By all means no. Security is a big issue for me, that is why I try so much to look for non-kyc companies when it comes to my bounty hunting. I really do not want my identity to be used in various purposes worst, terrorism. Money will come at the time of need but i don't think selling my identity in exchange for money will  be on the list. Of course there are millions of us, but man, protecting your identity should be your priority. Do not conform to what other people do. Let us all be enlightened, ;)


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Gozie51 on June 03, 2019, 01:46:47 PM
I wouldn't do that. It is an identity issue and more to that is the things being asked for are just what you are and not even a KYC thing. This is greater and more revealing than just a name and mere passport.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: BrewMaster on June 03, 2019, 03:50:45 PM
no i would not.
the reason is very simple, it is because we already have alternatives that are much better and provide me a much better privacy without needing me to give you my fingerprint or retina scan!
and what you are forgetting is "fair supply" is meaningless. whereas utility is the only thing that matters and as long as a coin doesn't have that utility, anything else is just a waste of time.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: indrakusumaindra on June 03, 2019, 06:10:34 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

Yes I would. Since we all are still going to die someday, why won't we try something new for a change of our lives? You shouldn't always believe on those conspiracy theories.
well i would do it too if its worthed and there is nothing to lose why not. Kyc is needed to ensure no one cheating and using dual account, so as long as its safe and worthed i think kyc is not a problem at all.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: D3m1r4wanti on June 03, 2019, 06:35:04 PM
I have never given my personal information other than National ID, I do not want to give up my personal data beyond that, especially if I have to submit fingerprint data or eye scan data.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Oilacris on June 03, 2019, 06:40:44 PM
no i would not.
the reason is very simple, it is because we already have alternatives that are much better and provide me a much better privacy without needing me to give you my fingerprint or retina scan!
and what you are forgetting is "fair supply" is meaningless. whereas utility is the only thing that matters and as long as a coin doesn't have that utility, anything else is just a waste of time.
Well said! that fair supply thingy wont really be a big thing yet it wont just focus into this thing but rather to utility.It isn't really needed to come to that

point like retina or fingerprint verification just for the sake of this fair supply thing yet there are more other things which would already be enough and not
coming already into this extent.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Gibreil on June 04, 2019, 04:21:57 AM
No, I wouldn't if I can't trust it hundred percent. I wouldn't dare to take a risk by giving my private data if I have a doubts against it. I should go for further investigation for my own security if I'll try the risk. Why don't they have a super secured transaction then it will not be questionable anymore.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Adriano2010 on June 04, 2019, 07:32:05 AM
I also don't want to give it, i think only the situation if the website is trusted and can't use it without that, but i also don't understand what is fair money supply, this not guarantee that the project is legit and if our sensitive data is protected, but i understand you need to distribute the coin fairly and to only one person to get coins and not get cheated.

Is your project still live?


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: breathlessz on June 04, 2019, 08:14:02 AM
no i would not.
the reason is very simple, it is because we already have alternatives that are much better and provide me a much better privacy without needing me to give you my fingerprint or retina scan!
and what you are forgetting is "fair supply" is meaningless. whereas utility is the only thing that matters and as long as a coin doesn't have that utility, anything else is just a waste of time.
Well said! that fair supply thingy wont really be a big thing yet it wont just focus into this thing but rather to utility.It isn't really needed to come to that

point like retina or fingerprint verification just for the sake of this fair supply thing yet there are more other things which would already be enough and not
coming already into this extent.
right, it doesn't need to be that far for a fair money supply. it is very personal to be a secret document from someone's person. in my mind, I will not give fingerprints or scans to any party



Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: coin-investor on June 04, 2019, 12:48:14 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

It depends on the project if the project is good why not if it has a potential in the market why not, people do not want KYC for the simple reason that the project is gone after several months or cannot keep up with their roadmap, and they are afraid that their information will go to a third party which they do not know.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: iMark on June 04, 2019, 03:00:08 PM
I have never given my personal information other than National ID, I do not want to give up my personal data beyond that, especially if I have to submit fingerprint data or eye scan data.
I will not do that and especialy give it to third parties. we know that third parties are not always safe, they can just sell your personal identity or abuse it? for example if your deposit-box is locked with fingerprints or eyescan, they can rob it with the data they get, don't do it to anyone #imo


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: leavolnhals on June 04, 2019, 04:55:13 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency
I will not do that. I am afraid to sell my information. because my information holders will be able to do other illegal things that I don't know. In the crypto market, we should not provide our personal information for some bad projects. They can sell all our information just to earn more money.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 04, 2019, 05:19:25 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

No, I won't do that because that will give my whole secret identity to you and that will be too dangerous for me. I cannot protect myself from anything if I do that even if that for fair money supply. We don't know how fair that money supply for every people and we don't know what will they do with the verification that we did so it is better that we can prevent that to protect ourselves from any illegal things that might happen to us.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Tylev on June 04, 2019, 06:09:31 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency
If you want to create your own cryptocurrency, what is the need to make sure that the participants on this forum use only one account? Is it vital to create cryptocurrency? I do not think so.
A fingerprint or an eye scan to use a cryptocurrency is hardly worth using. With this method, we will not be able to transfer our wallets to anyone, and we are not eternal, and we need to provide options for events if something happens to us.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: legenduim on June 04, 2019, 06:18:12 PM
By all means no. Security is a big issue for me, that is why I try so much to look for non-kyc companies when it comes to my bounty hunting. I really do not want my identity to be used in various purposes worst, terrorism. Money will come at the time of need but i don't think selling my identity in exchange for money will  be on the list. Of course there are millions of us, but man, protecting your identity should be your priority. Do not conform to what other people do. Let us all be enlightened, ;)

If you did not do anything wrong, you do not have to be afraid of giving fingerprints for these purposes. I am not sure that this data will help terrorist hurt you. If it is needed, I will agree with this procedure.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: CryptoBry on June 05, 2019, 02:52:00 AM
I have never given my personal information other than National ID, I do not want to give up my personal data beyond that, especially if I have to submit fingerprint data or eye scan data.
I will not do that and especialy give it to third parties. we know that third parties are not always safe, they can just sell your personal identity or abuse it? for example if your deposit-box is locked with fingerprints or eyescan, they can rob it with the data they get, don't do it to anyone #imo

Yes, this can be the problem. Usually we don't and will not trust third-party entities to handle these sensitive data and they can just be abused like being used in tracking someone that may not agree with the agreement or can even be use as a bait for someone to do something against his own will...in other words the information gained can use to control people. It does not matter if the present people managing the system can be good or not because later then they can be replace and the risks can be too much. It is enough that we have a good system that can check people who are doing illegal things. Ideas like this should be thoroughly vetted before being implemented.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: emmybd on June 05, 2019, 05:27:26 AM
I am not going to give my fingerprint or eye scan to any non-government private firm. I simply don't trust them, as I believe my identity is more important than any fair amount of money.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: BitcoinPanther on June 05, 2019, 07:56:27 AM
I voted no but this depends on the amount I have to get from this thing.  Most of people in  my country would give in to this offer since it will enable them to have a supply just by doing so.  Aside from that, in a developing country many people would do anything just to get an income.  But since I am ok with regards to meeting day to day needs, I think I'll pass until the situation gets dire.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Kimonoe on June 05, 2019, 03:57:13 PM
I voted no but this depends on the amount I have to get from this thing.  Most of people in  my country would give in to this offer since it will enable them to have a supply just by doing so.  Aside from that, in a developing country many people would do anything just to get an income.  But since I am ok with regards to meeting day to day needs, I think I'll pass until the situation gets dire.
terrible at the end is probably the right word. Hopefully we are not pressed for the situation and do not take this path to get supplies. As for this activity, it is valid because of a frustration


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: ricardobs on June 06, 2019, 09:29:24 AM
I think this is the first time I'm seeing anything as time based money. Okay from what I read on the wiki page if the average hourly rate is $20/hour, then a commodity valued at $20 in the national currency would be equivalent to 1 hour, So does that mean that this time money you're talking about can as well be exchanged for fiat just like we do with bitcoin and other cryptos? And how much will someone be getting paid and  how exactly is someone giving out their fingerprint/eye scan?  I don't understand a thing about this.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: beerlover on June 06, 2019, 11:36:42 AM
What is the "fair money supply" that we are talking about. And while we are at it who am I giving it to?

If I am going to give it to something shady then I would not accept it and even if it was something as big as apple or Microsoft and all that I would have to report it to authorities about me giving them my finger print.

I am not even using iphones finger print knowing unlocking thingy. Hence I would accept it in theoretical sense but I need to know more information. For example if it is a big huge corporation like a big bank or apple and what not and they give me enough money with inflation adjusted every year forever and helps me not work ever again in my life, why wouldn't I accept but why would apple give me that much money until I die for just my eye scan and fingerprint?


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Genemind on June 06, 2019, 03:39:41 PM
I think that's too much. We're already submitting some documents to comply with the requirements of Kyc and I guess providing our own fingerprint and eye scan is too much.
I won't risk that information for any money supply. What if hackers would use that information in fraud? As for me, KYC is enough.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: rizkyhiw on June 06, 2019, 04:08:20 PM
Will that happen? I am sure most people do not support that by providing more detailed and more important personal data only for a fair supply of money, it will never be comparable to me it can be misused at other times and their interests, do not let this work because of my KYC don't like a little but many people send KYC just to get coins that aren't necessarily good and real.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Mahanton on June 06, 2019, 04:48:25 PM
Fair money supply?No it wont happen.

The entire globe do have different sets of type of government and its impossible on having such coordination on such decision yet
there would be always those people who would have take the lead rather than agreeing on a fair supply or distribution of funds.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: cryptoknightt on June 06, 2019, 06:19:19 PM
Will that happen? I am sure most people do not support that by providing more detailed and more important personal data only for a fair supply of money, it will never be comparable to me it can be misused at other times and their interests, do not let this work because of my KYC don't like a little but many people send KYC just to get coins that aren't necessarily good and real.
well, there are a lot of people like that, examples of cases like those that happened on blockchain and coinbase, there they can get additional trading capital when they have done KYC and the price they pay only for $25 in my opinion is very valuable because your identity can be sold at a price higher than just $25.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: mersal on June 07, 2019, 06:53:23 AM
No,It is not advisable to give our unique identity to anyone because even for the twins it won't be same finger prints so its only for you and use for your personal needs,just verifying using is simply throwing that identity for money which can be abused and you may need to face the consequences later of your life.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: South Park on June 07, 2019, 05:00:30 PM
I think that's too much. We're already submitting some documents to comply with the requirements of Kyc and I guess providing our own fingerprint and eye scan is too much.
I won't risk that information for any money supply. What if hackers would use that information in fraud? As for me, KYC is enough.
KYC in this market is bad enough, bitcoin and all this market was created so we did not had to comply with that kind of invasion to our privacy, many people have been so influenced by the media that they think that if you do not have anything to hide then you should reveal everything, and that is not true, there are people out there that value their privacy and that do not post everything they do in facebook, so I will never give away such private information for the illusion of a fair money supply, and I say illusion because such coin will have to be centralized and we know what happens to centralized coins.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: guoyu78 on June 08, 2019, 05:41:54 AM
By all means no. Security is a big issue for me, that is why I try so much to look for non-kyc companies when it comes to my bounty hunting. I really do not want my identity to be used in various purposes worst, terrorism. Money will come at the time of need but i don't think selling my identity in exchange for money will  be on the list. Of course there are millions of us, but man, protecting your identity should be your priority. Do not conform to what other people do. Let us all be enlightened, ;)
If I am to self myself out through my identity, let it even be for very high amount of money and not these token the they are requesting one identity for, to me, it is really an insult, one of them came up recently and promised to give $40 for the KYC, why would I give own my data to such little token, when they know what the worth of the info I am giving is.

If the information is not going to be changed to money by them as they claim, why are they also offering money for it? So we really need to be careful and know that some of them are even selling our data out for various purposes against our knowledge.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Mike Mayor on June 08, 2019, 06:46:24 PM
Will that happen? I am sure most people do not support that by providing more detailed and more important personal data only for a fair supply of money, it will never be comparable to me it can be misused at other times and their interests, do not let this work because of my KYC don't like a little but many people send KYC just to get coins that aren't necessarily good and real.
well, there are a lot of people like that, examples of cases like those that happened on blockchain and coinbase, there they can get additional trading capital when they have done KYC and the price they pay only for $25 in my opinion is very valuable because your identity can be sold at a price higher than just $25.

Exactly thank you very much!! xD

Here is why KYC is total crap.

Mr scammer is lazy and wants to make a lot of money very quickly to live his fast and uncaring life style. Mr scammer thinks very hard of what to do. Mr scammer remembers the threads and forums he was visiting to learn the latest scams and ways to be a dirty thief. Mr scammer find a black market someone recommended to him. Mr scammer notices person ID being sold for $50-$150. Mr scammers rubs his hands together and decides this will be very easy because Mr scammer knows that bitcointalk is full of idiots giving away their KYC.

Mr scammers takes 5 minutes to make an airdrop that asks for KYC and offers $200 each sign up. 10 people sign up and mr scammer sells those ID/KYC and goes on a trip.


Advanced Mr scammer wants to make more then Mr scammer so advanced mister scammer creates a fake coin to sell at a fake ICO and gets the ID/KYC by asking for it in order to invest in mr advanced scammers fake coins. Mr advanced scammer knows if he goes on about crime and AML and other bs he can scare people into giving KYC. Now Mr advanced scammer gets the ICO money and the dumps all coins on the exchange and makes even more. Not to talk about the KYC profits.

I would not be surprised of many people here have had their KYC sold.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: South Park on June 12, 2019, 04:09:45 PM
If I am to self myself out through my identity, let it even be for very high amount of money and not these token the they are requesting one identity for, to me, it is really an insult, one of them came up recently and promised to give $40 for the KYC, why would I give own my data to such little token, when they know what the worth of the info I am giving is.

If the information is not going to be changed to money by them as they claim, why are they also offering money for it? So we really need to be careful and know that some of them are even selling our data out for various purposes against our knowledge.
Correct, bounty hunters are so desperate to make money that they will give their identity away to anyone that ask, scammers know this and they are offering that amount of money on tokens that we know will not have that value when they hit the market, so this is perfect for scammers, they get the identity of thousands of people for tokens they created out of thin air and that will never have any value while bounty hunters do not receive anything for their most important information in the world.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Boh manok on June 12, 2019, 04:42:44 PM
Whatever it is I will think about before submitting my scans or fingerprints, I will understand what it was before I joined him, so I was very difficult to submit my fingerprints and scans so I, whether it was profitable for me or could be able to  endanger me going forward


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: smyslov on June 12, 2019, 05:56:38 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

I would not do that because you are not a company or even compliant with any government, if you can show us that you are a legit company and very much compliant and guarantee that our information will not be solved to a third party, why not but if you cannot show us then I have to decline.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: congresowoman on June 12, 2019, 09:55:28 PM
It is a hard decision to make as this will serve as a threat to the privacy of an individual. Maybe I will say yes provided that there is an assurance of fire my data will be stored and utilized. Nowadays you really can't tell because hackers always find a way to hack into the system and steak those data.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: tippytoes on June 12, 2019, 10:12:50 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

I would not do that because you are not a company or even compliant with any government, if you can show us that you are a legit company and very much compliant and guarantee that our information will not be solved to a third party, why not but if you cannot show us then I have to decline.

No, I won't. We have the same answer on this one. Are you going to trust an unknown person from the net with your identity? Fingerprint or eye scan is all you have if all your material possessions are gone. And you are going to risk the only identity you have? I don't think so. He can say all the good things to his creation, but who are going to assess its value? There's no guarantee that it will even hit the market, but wait, you already sent your identity to him... Opppssss


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: MidKnight on June 13, 2019, 01:10:20 AM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency


I just felt much more danger with that process. I've seen many heist movies or robbery movies and they all did the same thing with that security feature, which is they killed the guy and place his head to match his eye for the security access or cut the finger right away. Forget it and it will never happen. Fair money supply won't exist because greed will always destroy that process.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: EdenHazard on June 13, 2019, 03:26:12 AM
Whatever it is I will think about before submitting my scans or fingerprints, I will understand what it was before I joined him, so I was very difficult to submit my fingerprints and scans so I, whether it was profitable for me or could be able to  endanger me going forward
What makes you feel benefited? Money? How much money that you hope for your personal identity? It's so risky when you put your personal identity on the internet thing. You will loss your asset if later there is an exchange that need a fingerprint to access your wallet. But I won't do it with how much money that will earn from an event, it will be good if you gain money from your skill such as trading and find signature campaign that earn btc comparing to earn money through your personal identity.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: fortunecrypto on June 13, 2019, 06:04:48 AM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency
unlikely I'm a big fan of decentralization, and all my information are mine and mine alone I cannot even prove that you'll have a project that will have a potential in the future, the worse thing is, you have one of my information and I have your tokens which have no value at all only a promise coming from you that it will soon have a value.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: beerlover on June 14, 2019, 07:33:40 AM
Shouldn't it depend on the money? I mean we all know we are talking about a potential ICO here with the information given with the funding and in return we are getting a certain amount of money most likely not enough to worth it. However if we are going to just assume any amount then I am sure we can find a right amount.

Some people would be willing to give their information for 1000 dollars, some people would be willing to do it for 50 thousand dollars, some may request a lot more, maybe we need a monthly thing or maybe we need one time big thing.

Basically I am sure you can find people that will accept it for a certain amount, its just the question of how much. I am sure if this idea turned out to be real and you did it for 50 thousand dollars per person you can find thousands of people sending their ID easily. However, if you ask them they will say no while if you offer them they will say yes.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Kakmakr on June 14, 2019, 07:52:24 AM
Will that happen? I am sure most people do not support that by providing more detailed and more important personal data only for a fair supply of money, it will never be comparable to me it can be misused at other times and their interests, do not let this work because of my KYC don't like a little but many people send KYC just to get coins that aren't necessarily good and real.
well, there are a lot of people like that, examples of cases like those that happened on blockchain and coinbase, there they can get additional trading capital when they have done KYC and the price they pay only for $25 in my opinion is very valuable because your identity can be sold at a price higher than just $25.

Exactly thank you very much!! xD

Here is why KYC is total crap.

Mr scammer is lazy and wants to make a lot of money very quickly to live his fast and uncaring life style. Mr scammer thinks very hard of what to do. Mr scammer remembers the threads and forums he was visiting to learn the latest scams and ways to be a dirty thief. Mr scammer find a black market someone recommended to him. Mr scammer notices person ID being sold for $50-$150. Mr scammers rubs his hands together and decides this will be very easy because Mr scammer knows that bitcointalk is full of idiots giving away their KYC.

Mr scammers takes 5 minutes to make an airdrop that asks for KYC and offers $200 each sign up. 10 people sign up and mr scammer sells those ID/KYC and goes on a trip.


Advanced Mr scammer wants to make more then Mr scammer so advanced mister scammer creates a fake coin to sell at a fake ICO and gets the ID/KYC by asking for it in order to invest in mr advanced scammers fake coins. Mr advanced scammer knows if he goes on about crime and AML and other bs he can scare people into giving KYC. Now Mr advanced scammer gets the ICO money and the dumps all coins on the exchange and makes even more. Not to talk about the KYC profits.

I would not be surprised of many people here have had their KYC sold.



I wonder how many of these smaller exchanges are doing the exact same thing? I always "watermark" my ID documents with the site or exchange name written on the photocopied document, so that I can source the leak if someone used my ID documents to signup for some other service.

I have not had one instance where the exchange or service did not want to accept the "water marked" documents, because they know why people are doing this. It also keeps them on their toes, because they know they will be blamed if that information is used and traced back to them.  :P


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Janation on June 14, 2019, 10:41:05 AM
Whatever it is I will think about before submitting my scans or fingerprints, I will understand what it was before I joined him, so I was very difficult to submit my fingerprints and scans so I, whether it was profitable for me or could be able to  endanger me going forward

We should really be careful with these.

Giving off your personal address, your phone number or your card number is bad but giving off your eye scans and fingerprints is much worst. Giving off your personal information is dangerous since bad people might go to your place and do bad things but in terms of giving off your scans and fingerprints, that is like giving off your identity to them and I see that as the worst unless you know what you are doing and you know what that company's goal is.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: zikzag on June 14, 2019, 11:30:19 AM
Not. Would not give a fingerprint or an eye scan. I do not want me to be added to the database for registration.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: whyrqa-1 on June 14, 2019, 06:16:19 PM
It seems to me that initially all the activities in the cryptocurrency market need to be put in order, so that there is no abuse and fraud, because each of us is already worried about the frequent requirements to provide passport data.  When and when a request for a fingerprint or retina comes, then your personal data will always be threatened, since you do not know to whom you are transmitting it.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Tigerw on June 14, 2019, 07:27:26 PM
It seems to me that initially all the activities in the cryptocurrency market need to be put in order, so that there is no abuse and fraud, because each of us is already worried about the frequent requirements to provide passport data.  When and when a request for a fingerprint or retina comes, then your personal data will always be threatened, since you do not know to whom you are transmitting it.
Until recently, users of cryptocurrency were outraged by the fact that they are beginning to demand that they provide KYC in order to have access to their rewards, earnings and funds.  We were all outraged, but still provided passport information.  Then we resented the confirmation of our identity through video.  Nevertheless, they fulfilled this condition.  Thus, there will not be much surrender regarding the requirements of a fingerprint, but nevertheless everyone will even fulfill such conditions.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Shenzou on June 14, 2019, 08:13:08 PM
Giving a fingerprint to some random will surely get you in trouble, just thinking about they could easily put it on a crime seance and accuse of murder or theft, but giving an eye scan does not sound that big of a deal because there will be no use for it, unless you are the president or some owner of the a secret vault they can't use it, so i don't see a harm in giving an eye scan for money for the time being, but i am still against giving crucial personal details that are not already public.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: sana54210 on June 17, 2019, 08:05:03 AM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency
unlikely I'm a big fan of decentralization, and all my information are mine and mine alone I cannot even prove that you'll have a project that will have a potential in the future, the worse thing is, you have one of my information and I have your tokens which have no value at all only a promise coming from you that it will soon have a value.
LOL, this is the best way to really handle some of these projects developers that are feeling like they do investors or hunter favor with their projects and still demand for unnecessary document from them to the extent of imposing it. People are still fighting KYC so hard and scared of it being used against them by fraudsters and terrorist, why would any project now go to the extent of demanding for finger print which is the worst of it all.

Just has you have mentioned, why would I also do that for a token without value, even if they are paying me so much to do so, such project must really proof to me why it is so important for it to have access to such vital information.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: South Park on June 18, 2019, 05:28:09 PM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency

I would not do that because you are not a company or even compliant with any government, if you can show us that you are a legit company and very much compliant and guarantee that our information will not be solved to a third party, why not but if you cannot show us then I have to decline.

No, I won't. We have the same answer on this one. Are you going to trust an unknown person from the net with your identity? Fingerprint or eye scan is all you have if all your material possessions are gone. And you are going to risk the only identity you have? I don't think so. He can say all the good things to his creation, but who are going to assess its value? There's no guarantee that it will even hit the market, but wait, you already sent your identity to him... Opppssss
Not only that, we do not really need a currency that promises us to offer a fair money supply when we already have bitcoin that offer that to us, in a way the coin that he is proposing runs contrary to what bitcoin is trying to achieve, a currency that only allows you to have one address and that requires such an extreme form of KYC means that the creator of such coin will know not only every transaction that ever happened but he will also know who was responsible for such transaction, so such coin offers nothing that bitcoin does not already offer with the added advantage that you do not need to supply any information to open a bitcoin wallet and have as many addresses as you want.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: microbb8 on June 18, 2019, 06:19:57 PM
I would not give my details. Personally, I do not like. I donít like to transfer data in the 21st century. It is not safe. I think many people will agree with me.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Moshaid on June 18, 2019, 06:59:30 PM
I will, only if it's a legit scheme or organization in charge of such program, this is not the first time most of us are giving out our personal details in the crypto space and outside the crypto space but one thing we all must consider is to always do a depth research about such agency before submitting our personal details. There's hardly any piravcy in anything we do online but if an organisation promise 100% privacy of our data and we later find out our details are used for other things without our consent then we can take things up against that organisation. Which why it's important we know about the organisation we're submitting our details to.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: armarsterling7 on June 19, 2019, 03:27:50 AM
I am creating a money supply which distributes duration to addresses but need a way to verify each person has only one account

would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency
No, I never did that even if the reward was $ 50 or $ 100. For me, I was afraid that my personal information would be sent everywhere and bad people would use my information to do bad things.
I don't want my future to be in jail. Sorry for not being able to help you.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: RealMalatesta on June 19, 2019, 05:23:08 AM
Shouldn't it depend on the money? I mean we all know we are talking about a potential ICO here with the information given with the funding and in return we are getting a certain amount of money most likely not enough to worth it. However if we are going to just assume any amount then I am sure we can find a right amount.

Some people would be willing to give their information for 1000 dollars, some people would be willing to do it for 50 thousand dollars, some may request a lot more, maybe we need a monthly thing or maybe we need one time big thing.

Basically I am sure you can find people that will accept it for a certain amount, its just the question of how much. I am sure if this idea turned out to be real and you did it for 50 thousand dollars per person you can find thousands of people sending their ID easily. However, if you ask them they will say no while if you offer them they will say yes.
You sound like you can easily sell out your birth right for money. There are so many things that one really needs to guide against and everything should really not be about money. Damaged reputation is too difficult to regain when being lost than to regain money, and no matter the money you get, it will not stay for life.

You talked about potential ICO, what is the guarantee you really have that the ICO in question really has the potential, have you not seen lots of ICOs in the past that you believed to be potential, and yet turn out to be a shitcoins later in future?So KYC should not be about the money, but we need to be sure it will not cost damage to our reputation.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: Cnut237 on June 19, 2019, 09:10:19 AM
We absolutely should not surrender valuable personal information such as this. I am glad that many on here seem to share my opinion that personal data is valuable and should not just be handed out for free. If a company wanted my fingerprint or eye scan, how could I trust them not to sell this data on to a third party?

Personal data is a huge and lucrative market, and there is a lot of money changing hands as information is passed to advertisers and more nefarious parties. Even if the company has genuine noble aims, there is always that incentive to sell the data, and even if they don't there is the possibility of hacking once it's known that a company holds vast tranches of this data. Information such as this really is digital gold. Everyone wants some, and you shouldn't give it away or allow it to become vulnerable to theft.

Your personal data is yours and should remain yours. Guard it well.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: mazdafunsun on June 20, 2019, 03:16:11 PM
It is dependent on how you would treat my data. How safe it would be ?

Recently i joined a gym and the gym had a fingerprint scanner and was used for opening the doors there, I did not feel comfortable with that. I would rather not give out my fingerprint to random organization.


Title: Re: would you give your fingerprint or eye scan for a fair money supply?
Post by: shulc7 on June 20, 2019, 09:03:49 PM
I would not give my details. Personally, I do not like. I donít like to transfer data in the 21st century. It is not safe. I think many people will agree with me.

I do not care much about these things, although, here some guys say negatively about fingerprints. In the USA, all people leave their fingerprints in a base and take it easy. If something like this is needed, I'll agree.