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Read the Bitcoin "investors" in this forum and you always see them say the same: "I believe..."

- I believe Bitcoin will go up
- I believe HODL is good
- I believe we will see adoption
- I believe it will go to the moon

and so and...and so on.... and so on

You have no understanding - only belief

Therefore Bitcoin for many people in here is a religion - it is about belief and not about facts and understanding

And religion is an extremely poor investment strategy

This is so so true! You got me on this! Most of us in the community only believe! And to be sincere- is making folks not to think critically! But i have observed for the past few months my paradigm has shifted greatly! I currently focus more on the technology than the markets!

I think it's more of a term they generally use for anything, they also use a lot of "i think", but I see you don't mention it, believing is something innate in humanity, but I can't deny that a lot of people see bitcoin as the second coming of Jesus Christ transformed into a digital currency...

It's a little exaggerated. Yes, we all believe in Bitcoin, but I guess we don't have to go that far. Pleases calm down and relax :)

my belief in god is only one but I pray to God that bitcoin is given a smooth and easy way, which is getting better prices, avoiding bad people given the ease in mining bitcoin

You do know you will lose your money - don't you?

It is very interesting point and, frankly speaking, true. Some people just flock after a new technology or trend without getting in details.

Bitcoin a religion? God you're talking... How can you combine spiritual (Church) faith and hope that the price of bitcoin will grow? This is bullshit!
Your understanding of religion is very incomprehensible, or you just decided to write some nonsense!

I think you are not referring to actual religion but the meaning of religion. Yes, religion is something that we strongly believe and I think as an investor we believe that bitcoin can overcome this falldown. But the wrong is that we dont usually understand the real meaning behind it.

The term "I believe" does not necessarily indicate a religious zeal, it is merely a form of words-they could as easily said "I expect" or "I think".
Indeed I think Bitcoin will recover and I expect this recovery to continue over a long period of time, I don't believe or expect that Bitcoin to die anytime soon. This is not based on religious fervor but on looking at the data available and then making a judgement based on that data.

There is no place for sentiment in business, especially when it comes to money.   

Is better than a religion because it's real...

And if you see a lot of people believing, let me introduce you to speculation, that's when people aren't sure what will happen but they bases in some factors on the environment to predict the future. But that doesn't mean is an absolute truth, is just speculation.

With the same logic you bring us today, we could say religion is a science, lol.

what? believe in bitcoin is religion..you misinterpret a word, 'believe' is widely used in the world that is believing something is not just for bitcoin, maybe you are not ready to lose in this war, you are so stressed because you lose a lot of money your speech is uncontrolled so you cannot distinguish the path of a sentence word

Of course, bitcoin is a religion for all crypto enthusiasts especially those who believe in the philosophy of bitcoin. It is that belief that gives us the confidence that bitcoin really has a very bright future and it is the hope that it would happen sooner than later.

Yeah, that's true we must believe in bitcoin that it will recover and give us more profit. Be optimistic to your investment it gain more profit and be calm down when the price value go down.

Why not start yourself
Show us the negatives in crypto
This is practical thinking
I agree that some here are not familiar with the technical aspect
There is nothing wrong with this,
 knowledge of the fundamentals of crypto it is enough

I feel you are overdoing something.

I think we must not overthink that if we believe that something we can say that it is religion. Yes we have different beliefs and i do respect it.

I think it’s more a symptom of this website which places a premium on continuous relatively redundant banter or “talk” rather than of bitcoin itself.  The most interesting and informative content on this forum was posted years ago when the community was less about making profits and more about using computers in a new and cool way.  

Bitcointalk will always have a place in history but I just don’t see real utility anymore.  Hopefully they won’t do an ico ;)

haha.. I agree! Enthusiasm is always good, but Bitcoin is nothing to be religious about.

Exactly, Joe mis-spoke, he meant that BITCOIN is a cult, to call bitcoin a religion is to offend all religions, bitcoin is a like scientology, its just a scam, to separate morons from their money.

I think it's safe to say that those who support XRP are orders of magnitude worse than the group you are referring to. It's mind boggling how upset people get if you even dare to point them at XRPs shortcomings.

It has gone so far, that crypto "influencers" on social media carefully choose their words and think it through twice before actually saying something about XRP. Not sure how they got so involved, but it's interesting nonetheless.

They keep pointing at banks coming in and the utility, yet no one of them actually used it for anything, neither do they know if banks are actually planning to use it in the future.....

Sorry, but what's a crypto influencer?  Is that like some dude or chick who is desperate to sell me a bag of their shit coins at a 'discount' if I agree to subscribe to their daily or hourly news-letter?

I think its like penny stock, where the salesman gets 50% commission.

Everything about bitcoin smells like a penny stock factory, especially the bullshit about HODL,

In bitcoin the influencer is an 'evangelist', because bitcoin is a cult, it needs people on the sidewalks bringing in new suckers

Ah, I get it.  I’ve watched a number of YouTube videos and while some of these “evangelists” are just plain are funny, others can appear impossibly earnest, bitcoin-obsessed and totally submissive towards their favorite shit coin developers who in turn are all paid sponsors of their content. 

I’m sure most of them are also super-wealthy now after selling me their bags at all time high prices last January...No more cool aid ;)

 so ridiculously earnest in their beliefs that it’s @a bit creepy (and funny). 

I believe what you have said in this tgread except that bitcoin is a religion. Bitcoin is a digital currency that is too far to be praised off in what you called a religion. Even if it has the most valued coin of all in the cryptocurrency market, still we cannot say its religion literally.

Bitcoin is still a bitcoin that makes transaction tools, not religion, religion cannot be used for transactions. I have a view that bitcoin is indeed valuable by looking at the data and the market that continues to run. While religion is our belief that cannot be bought with anything and remains eternal. The belief in bitcoin is only for the future in terms of sufficient life.

How can this be a religion? Those who really believe in Bitcoin will not say those.
Only those speculators will be crazy about advocating bitcoin. For those who really love Bitcoin, you only need to introduce to people next to you what Bitcoin is enough, and you don’t need to suggest someone else to buy

A side understanding how the p2p technology works, what other details do you think you can get from bitcoin as it relates to it price since the market is unpredictable and highly volatile. So all we need do is to stay positive and in doing that we have to operate on faith and when you dig down faith operate with believe, but the ops saying bitcoin is now a religion because of the use of the `word` believe is totally wrong.

I think george carlin said "Its called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to make it real"

Whenever somebody tells you to "Have Faith, and HODL" run like hell, hide the children, and lock your doors.

It's hardly P2P when BITMAIN in China OWNS 90% of the mining platforms that  control the paradigm. A scientist would call that centralization, a village moron would call it p2p, or a circle-jerk.

BITCOIN being day-traded by a bunch of buffoons has nothing to do with technology or peer2peer networking.

Idiots accept "FAITH", all else demand CASH in hand or gold.

I am 100% guilty of the charges. But what else can we do?

YOU issue the "HODL-er" Mantra, ...

"SIR MAY I HAVE ANOTHER" - "Animal House"

Then OPs religion must be strong, because he believes :

- Bitcoin will fail.
- All Bitcoiners are dumb and ignorant
- Bitcoin is only for believers
- Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme

This is the kind of drivel threads that he is posting every day, in the hope that Bitcoiners will lose their hope and dreams for this technology.

We have a false prophet in our mist, with a bag full of hidden agendas. Just click the ignore button and build your dreams, because nobody should influence your decision to do what you want with your money. <not even if the advice is coming from a Bitcoin believer>

Hahaha. This is very true. It's quite like a religion. So many people believe without facts, and their belief is not strong. They only praise Bitcoin and other crypto when the price goes up but ignores and mocks it when it dumps even if there are so many use cases for the said coin.They only care about the short term price and does not believe that it will go up in the future because of its potential.

Why not ? you will say those things because you believe on bitcoin and it is already proven and tested that bitcoin will always work that way  but bitcoin in reality is not really a relegion because it is a currency ( cryptocurrency ) although it can be considered as a relegion because we do believe on what it can do and we have a faith on it .

You have been misunderstanding the people who are into bitcoin.

Calling investors to believers and the whole community as a religion. You don't have to go that far..

Do you believe in money and all that it can gives you? do you believe in love and how it can make you happy and make you complete? do you believe in education? do you believe in any products you're using? if YES is your answer, then next question is that do you think those I mentioned above are religion? Absolutely not.
Fiat and cryptocurrency is the same. It's use for exchange of service and commodity.
What am I saying? try to learn more about cryptocurrency specially bitcoin. Then check out eco 101 or business 101. Also try to research history of money. You do know that in ancient time there's no money right?!
With bearish market we tend to overthink and over react. cool, chill and relax..this too shall pass

I think that there are people who believe in Bitcoin more than anything.

It's easy to get sucked in once you learn how great bitcoin is. Also it is infectious so more and more people will join in and be a part of the future. Let's see how it develops next year

Religious people are strange, I had a conversation with a jehovah's witness last month and he insisted that  all other religions were false and his was the only true one.

It must be something in the way our brains work, you get a similar thing with people convinced about jfk and 911 conspiracy theories. No matter what evidence you thrust in front of them, they are 100% convinced that black is white.

and so it is with most bitcoin hodlers.

For the record.

God Does not exist.
911 + JFK are not conspiracies
We did go to the moon
Cryptocurrencies (including btc) are doomed

God is Dead, Nieztsche said so in the 1700's

911 was an Israel job orchestrated to blame Saudi-Arabia, but Iraq was punished

JFK was murdered by Israel because he wanted to designate them a foreign-lobby, and he didn't want them getting nukes ( which they did after killing him ), dozens of books were written how Israel used Meyer Lansky who ran the Vegas mob at the time to murder JFK.

Well PUTIN says the USA didn't go to the moon, who are we to believe? PUTIN or Trump? PUTIN also say's that GOOGLE is NSA, that means that BITCOIN is Google.

Crypto is what it is, a NSA-CIA-BIS NWO payment system to control world population.

I find it fascinating that both BITCOIN & SCIENTOLOGY are orchestrated by CIA, L-Ron-Hubbard was a CIA case officer who didn't write "Dianetics" until he retired from CIA early 1940's. Satoshi is BIS/NSA, but they handed BTC over to CIA about 2010. The white-paper came from BIS, and all math, algo's in BITCOIN came from NSA.

Believe in bitcoin and believe in religion is not the same issue bro you cannot mix with each other. If you want to make money by investing in a specific thing you need to believe in that specific thing. So investor strongly believes that bitcoin will fight back soon that's why they still investing in bitcoin.

Fortune all has been determined by the will of God, investment, business, trade, etc., all human lives have been regulated, whether it is good or bad?
bitcoin goes up or down all by the will of God, the point is, all Bitcoin users try their best about prices by what is said what God must have heard, slow or fast if God wants all the problems either, Bitcoin, and other things will happen anyway optimistic and praying for Bircoin this year will improve about the price.

First of all, bitcoin is not a religion second of all bitcoin should not be treated as religion both belief is different. Bitcoin has huge popularity and potential among the users whatever is going on with bitcoin it doesn't matter as they believe in bitcoin because they know bitcoin could be in the driving seat very soon and will make a profit again.

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exactly the software is not a religion,

but the bitcoin HODL'ers are religious basket cases, that ignore reality and believe that tooth-fairys will send bitcoin to the moon,

satoshi is ghost, jesus was a ghost

believers must have faith, because their ideas are backed by nothing

bitcoin hysteria is a religion, but its a cult religion, meaning that the religious leaders are nuts

bitcoin buying is speculative gambling, investing means to purchase valuable assets and let them appreciate, purchasing bitcoin is the greater-fool-theory, people are hoping that others are stupider than them

HODL-ers are left holding the bag, as they be greatest fools

Is not God good, he gives you to believe in whatever you want :D

But I still rather believe in God, because I know bitcoin will be mooning at least once, after that we will see, because war, recession and rus can ez turn off electricity to any nation. So get your HardWallets proof against EMP if you live in usa. But it's in no much of use, since you have all the words on paper, so you're just protecting that usb/HW. :)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/68inc2/protect_your_btc_from_emp_attack/

Believing that bitcoin will go up, believing that hodling is a good idea, believing that it will get adopted by large corporations, and believing that it will skyrocket to the moon, does not make you have any right that other people consider it as a religion. And that doesn't make an intellectual in cryptocurrency related things and doese not mean you have a better understanding. Even the richest people here are just speculating and does not claim that they will be 100% correct all the time.

Bitcoin is a religion as much as any other form of money. Btc is no different in this sense!

Richest people have money managers that plan out 2-10 generations in the futures, these familys make wars and decides who dies, and who lives, they decide which country's turn to be the reserve currency.

Little people just trade pet-rocks.

Speculation is a gamble.

RICHEST people don't gamble, they plan, connive, and orchestrate wars, and overthrow governments

Rothschilds, Getty's, Mellons, ... have been planning out 4-10 generations for 100's of years to make sure they're heirs inherit the earth.

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Little people need religion, so BIS-NSA created BITCOIN, and CIA spoon-feeds it via they're controlled media outlets.

Well lots of people worship money, do doubt, and historically seashells have been money.

But JP-Morgan said "Only gold is money, everything else is credit"

We really don't know what BITCOIN is, but I would liken it to the "Little Prince" and the accountant who owned the star's because he had them in his book.

It has nothing to do with religion, this is investment and business do not worship Bitcoin and connect it as your religion, it's a plain and simple investment, only fools will worship Bitcoin and the love of money is the root of all evil so better check your motivation and do not treat your investment as your God.

If You focus more on technology, then You have probably also been wondering, what if crytos are not meant to be scaling after all and we are dealing with historic scams. Right?
Or You are blindfocused and see only promises about lightning network and other cool sounding promises?

For some people, Bitcoin is a religion, for some it's a cult, for some it's good investment, for some its just a bad investment, for some it's just another currency - everyone has a unique viewpoint from their own perspective.

You are taking the words out of the context. When one says 'I believe that the value of the BTC will go up', it is usually backed up by comments about the previous drop of the price or one quotes a text he/she read somewhere or some smart guy that said so or something. So, comparing sentences 'I believe in God' and 'I believe in BTC' is ridiculous. Believing in BTC is usually justified by a statement, a fact that was read somewhere or someone's opinion. And every single investor or potential investor forms opinion based on the capacity and information. It doesn't come as a surprise to me that there are people investing in BTC like playing rullet, they think of it as a gamble so it is completely reasonable that they need to have faith in it :)

Bitcoin is not a religion we're just believed on it that bitcoin is save us in any situation especially to financial, we don't need to be rage or should i say we must focus on a positive way not to be a negative. just calm down and don't let your emotion kill you.

I can see that you support and love bitcoin, that is okay. And you want to Hodl, it is ok too. You can loose or win it is your own business. But the bitcoin is not a religion. There are more important think then bitcoin in the life. Think about your family, is bitcoin more important? Obsession is something very dangerous be careful..

"bitcoin is a scam, to separate morons from their money " - that is the best quote posted in this site in a long time !!

we have left belief only and i cant see anything bad about it.if we lose faith on bitcoin, what are we doing here?
or this is because of hunger of tech and rotten of current system

We believe that bitcoin will do all we hoped that it can do, because of the nature of online trading of cryptocurrency which is speculative and news carrier. The  news carrying capacity of the cryptocurrency makes it possible for any price in the market at any time. The market may open in the morning and will be low but before the middle of the trading day the price will change and goes up. That is why we are more of believing than understanding.

religion is a form of core belief that is not centered on a form that cannot be determined. they come spiritually and clearly this cannot be equated with an economic perspective especially bitcoin.

I always see the development of the current situation and find many arguments and even sentiments that can always be fundamentally accountable.

If you equate this perspective with people who really only see passively, I am sure that is true, but I will also believe if they will eventually learn more using logic analysis that has a clearer form.

Anyone still investing in Bitcoin clearly does not have the ability to use logic analysis

I partly agree about it. Many people believe on bitcoin and what is promised from it. Yes, profits. People are attracted to get lots of profits and hope to become rich by investing in bitcoin. But, I think that's OK, their belief is what makes people stay and it's not too much. Even so, people still lack of ability to analyze the situation logically. 

I don't see bitcoin as a religion, for one to believe on technology doesn't mean he/she hold it as a religion but as a true technology striving to the top in short time. The technology behind bitcoin is the tech that brought us into this industry and will keep us till its world wide accepted and adopted. I wholeheartedly believe on religion and equally believe on Bitcoin existence.

The time is to relax and enjoy

First of all, you need to think when you invest and I fully agree with the author that many on this forum just blindly believe in Bitcoin

I've never come across anyone that does not believe in whatever he's into, let alone investment. Thus having believe in Bitcoin isn't a bad thing as been posted. Most people are very optimistic their investment goes smoothly.

In my opinion. there is no connection between bitcoin and religion. we here only believe if bitcoin will recover and we will hold assets as long as possible because if we release assets then we will experience even greater losses. we just convince ourselves and raise our soul to be able to accept the market conditions that are currently happening.

Well, I think the beliefs of Bitcoin and Religion is different. Its really a big diffefent, Religion means you are patrionate something like anito, statue and something that you beliefs is a god and bring you a luck. Beliefs in Bitcoin is a thing that you are hoping to happened in the near future. We are not patronizing Bitcoin we are hoping for its success in the future. 

And that's   the only thing   we need  to do  right  now is to  believe that  Bitcoin will  go up this  coming year  and  HOdl  :)  Many  of us  believe   because they  have  this  analysis  or technical analysis  of Bitcoin. 

This is so funny that bitcoin  is a religion  but this is absolutely  right and I admitted also that I've  always saying this kind of words. Specially  this time of dumping/falling the value of bitcoin that we are now taking a risk for us to earn when the value rise up again. We always saying this time that we are believing that bitcoin value was rise and we need to hold.

yes, we believe that BTC will create more bullishness, and BTC also has a good future, but BTC is not the same as religion, because religion is not for predicted.

now, we only speculate on a chart that has no definite value. and trust is part of our loyalty to BTC.

hmm, you are right, but maybe from their speculation is bitcoin will increase, so they talk believe in their word. maybe believe in bitcoin is not good. maybe they can use another word.

in the crypto world we are only required to be confident and trusting ... without it all it is impossible for people to invest in bitcoin ... but you are very wrong if judging bitcoin is a religion ... understanding of a religion is very different from bitcoin

Bitcoin is far from being a religion, bitcoin is a crypto currency, they say i believe becouse some people say if you put some thing in the universe it comes true.They want the price of bitcoin to grow,when they say i believe HOLD is good they do not mean like its a religion its just their thought.

I will admit that I make that mistake from time to time as well, instead of showing the evidence of why I think bitcoin will go up in price or why I think a particular positive scenario is going to play out in the future for bitcoin I use expressions like the ones that you mentioned but that is because sometimes I forget that there are many people that do not share the same views that I have.

You exaggerate by calling bitcoin a religion. Not at all. But without faith in the success and prospects of bitcoin, you are unlikely to achieve success in investing.

We just have nothing left but faith in bitcoin, especially when the price fluctuates so much. Especially if you are investing in the long term, then you should be confident in bitcoin and continue to support it with your faith in its future success.

In fact, sometimes I jokingly think so. Now we have to strongly believe in the prospect of bitcoin both as an investment and as a currency. Otherwise, I would have just sold my coins.

There is a believe in bitcoin by almost all member on this forum. Bitcoin and cryptocurrency is all about speculation and it only believe that makes it as a religion by its members having faith in it.

Joe, why do you even buy into the language of these 'cultists', Bitcoin was never an 'investment', it was always speculative gambling, a 50/50 roll of the dice, which by definition is a fools game.

Even Satoshi's own white paper uses the rule of 51% F=2*P-1, where P is probability of a win, when it's 0.5 you bet zero, any other bet is a moron bet. Satoshi, uses the same 'law of large numbers', to prove that if 51% of a group are 'good' then the 'virtual currency' can be trusted, and that's fine and dandy, but long ago BITMAIN became 99% principal producer of mining hw, and thus 51% is just another urban-myth that is kept alive in the minds of the flock.

Investing is getting sure thing ROI on your money.

Back in the day MINING bitcoin was ok, but that game is long over, in fact the entire crypto space now no longer makes money mining, so now the only game for the exchanges and other leaders of this cult to fleece the flock is to get them to BUY VIRTUAL-CURRENCY, which can only be spent in Heaven, as they MUST wait to spend their VC and HODL.

I agree, I think you are lack of knowledge about religion. Your proof was not acceptable to compare bitcoin into a religion. They are too far from each other. Just because people or investors only beliefs that something good will happen to bitcoin that doesn't mean that they treat it as a religion. Maybe they just have faith on bitcoin and trust on it. But that doesn't be consider as a religion.

it is not belief, and it is not religion. but that is strategy and speculation. the stock market is always synonymous with such a strategy.

trust is only a small part that can make us calm and not panic.

Bitcoin is a not a religion and not because people have beliefs on it you can compare it already to religion because they are different. Yes bitcoin makes one person believe on something which is not already happening but not all beliefs can be consider in a field of religion. Religion has its own concept as well as the bitcoin too.

Bitcoin is a digital currency, which is a currency but uses it digitally. So there must be devices such as smart phones or computers and the internet. Bitcoin users are people who have confidence that bitcoin can increase their income so that their lives get better. Having confidence here is believing not religion.

Confusing ???. I don't understand why Bitcoin must be associated with religion? I think it is only a form of hope or prediction and is manifested in writing. In my opinion, bitcoin should not be associated with religion. :'(

It also seems so strange for me when somebody says that Bitcoin can be a religion. People, who believe in God can be offended, and the atheists will not like it as for them, all religions are blind while BTC is always the knowledge.

Maybe it's true.  ??? Bitcoin is a religion. It has it's own big community, God - Satoshi Nakamoto, miners are clerics and believers are all holders. Maybe this religion will be the most famouse in the nearest years.

Maybe not a religion, but Bitcoin is certainly revolutionary.

Jesus was truly a revolutionary. They tried to crucify Jesus and failed.

The current powers at be wanna crucify Bitcoin.

Bitcoin keeps getting the resurrection action.

Sorry to say, yes, it is, Bitcoin is like a cult for a lot of people.

the most important thing is trust, we should all believe that bitcoin will rise again and that will make us more calm at work. and I am sure that the bounty will rise again.

The purpose of the word "believe" is not only fixed on religion, if you only have such understanding it seems that your understanding in a sentence or word is very narrow. Because the word "believe" can be meant for many things. For example, you want to fight in a competition, but on the other hand your competitors are very difficult, then you convince yourself by saying "I believe I can" etc. So, is the word "believe" religion? I don't think so, because it's just an expression to strengthen yourself to be consistent.

Yeah confidence in the future of bitcoin. cannot be interpreted as a belief in religion. yeah both of them are mandatory. but religion is not supposed to be linked to investment. you're right we have to believe in bitcoin so that we won't panic easily

Bitcoin is an appreciation of humans who are able to provide convenience in desires, bitcoin and religion have many differences and do not equate.
Indeed, the word "confident" here gives an opinion to encourage yourself and colleagues to continue to prejudice both in every speculation that occurs.

You really don't understand about what is the meaning of religion, I don't ask anything to bitcoin, even my bitcoin is in my control, if you don't believe that bitcoin price will go up then why you still spend your time here? What do you want? Bitcoin is the matter of thrust, I thrust bitcoin more than bank although people said that bank is agen of thrust but in the fact there are many case that the customers loss their money in bank because the bank is bankrupt and cannot give their customers money back, bank save their customers money and then lend 90% of it so actually there are only a small percentage of the customers money that still in bank, there is also a risk if you save your money in bank. As agen of thrust bank was make many people disappointed, do you think that people don't look for a way out of this problem? I believe that people will leave bank and save their money in their own bank which is cryptocurrency wallet. If you has studied about macro economy then you will understand about it.

Bitcoin and Religion obviously very much different, do not equate Bitcoin with Religion, because Bitcoin is only worldly which clearly has a lot of controversy in it. The use of the word "I am sure" "I think" is in my opinion just a prediction that is commonly done by all humans.

You can be right. However, we have to remember that we are talking here of ordinary guys and girls who can even be newbies in investing and they do not rely so much on technicalities but rather what they can be feeling. And indeed, emotions can be the poorest factor when it comes to investment and trading for that matter. People were burned in 2017 all because of blind speculation (the assumption that the price will continue to go up without stopping). This is one area that cryptocurrency is very much known...the whole thing democratize access to investment but at the same time this very thing has become its weakness. Ironic, isn't it?

Then, if you do not believe, you don't need to invest in cryptocurrency at all.

Bitcoin is really a belief and many of us believe in the future of cryptocurrencies and bitcoin. I think we are at the time when blockchain technology is one of the things people, companies and governments debate the most. I seriously think that bitcoin might become religious to some people in future but not all the investors as many of us has understanding on the state of cryptocurrencies investment and investments in general.

Yep, most people do that. However, not all. There is faith, but there is knowledge. For example, I do not believe that Bitcoin will grow, I know that, since many facts speak about it. But yes, 90% of people simply believe and rely on the opinions of others. This is not the right strategy if you want to make a profit.

Yes , bitcoin might be near to religion only that in relugion we believe in Gods , but in bitcoin we believe it can really change the life of the individual ,but only if you work hard for your investments and and have the attitude of a very patience and do not need a very immediate effect, that others want to be a fast richness in life.

In religion there is no doubt that will be questioned, but the habit of bitcoin investors is not like that. Their trust is only limited to expectations, not a certainty. Mereks is only able to predict the price of bitcoin based on the history that has occurred and they believe in the potential that bitcoin will give to everyone.

What for make bitcoin is religion, just hold is not have faith for bitcoin, you can understand many people only give lucky time with holder of bitcoin because the future of bitcoin is good and have higher price, not as religion for bitcoin.

Bitcoin should not be compared with the religion,as Bitcoin deals with the external materialistic world where money is involved and loss and profit are the rules of the game whereas , religion is dealing with person internal world where love blossom compassion feelings take better shapes.So it would be better if we restrict our discussion to the Bitcoin only.

Gold is a religion

When I was thinking this post, I saw your point because in a religious is is focusing on the faith, and faith means believing in to something that we did not see, and same here n the bitcoin world we expect and we believe to something will happen even we did not see something.

If the "cult of Bitcoin" has signs of religion, then only negative and extreme signs. Bitcoin, like the financial sector, should have nothing to do with the religion at all. This happens only because of people's ignorance and unwillingness to understand the subject themselves, when people start to just believe in something and rely on others. Does this make any sense? In my opinion, Bitcoin should be a financial tool for profit, but not a religion.

I do not agree if bitcoin is equated with religion. but many people agreed. they are lali with his religion. so they consider bitcoin as a religion. bitcoin is not a religion but bitcoin is a cash that can make money. and many people believe in religion.

Stupid ,how did you say that religion is only a belief?theres a bible or scriptures that can prove things happen in past so thats not just a believing but a reality,everything that God and Jesus does is written in tablets and scroll so you have no rights tl say or compared this to cryptocurrency because it doesnt even relevant

Who said belief means religion?

Just replace Believe with Hope from all your statemtns then it will become an investment,because investments are made with the hope of prices will increase in the future.So its actually okay to hope and invest on it.

It is not appropriate to think that bitcoin is a religion, even though you consider trust as the basis of these two things, but actually the beliefs in question are very different.
You say that all bitcoin investors have the same trust, but I see that is not true, because there are actually many who try to leave Bitcoin, and investors who are still sure they will always try to convince others to stay.

Yes, it's true, religion and Bitcoin are very different, maybe here believing in Bitcoin is not believing in worshiping, but only limited to believing in the potential of Bitcoin in the future. It is clear that Bitcoin is something that does not belong to a belief such as believing in Religion.

everything in life takes faith. you could not even accomplish anything on your own if you don't believe in your self. whatever one believes in it is from his heart and nobody can take it away from him. facts that we see and know right now regarding bitcoin are just facts, and achievers and more successful people in life first picture it in their mind and believe it in their hearts and it happened. every successful inventions, the inventors first conceived them in their mind and believed they are going to make it with out seeing anything at first.

There might be a bitcoin fanatics or avid followers but it is not necessarily a religion because this people are not worshipping it. They only believe in bitcoin's ability to help them financially but not to save their life. Those people who always thinking that bitcoin will go up again in the future are merely speculating but not praying. Religion involves life while bitcoin counts only money.

Yes, that's right, I'm here believing in Bitcoin's ability to make people rich because bitcoin can increase prices, but we don't worship Bitcoin like worshiping Religion, so start thinking sane. Because Bitcoin is a tool for profit, while Religion is our savior for provisions in the hereafter.

No. Just no.

*Praise be

Bitcoin is a digital currency, so it is related to material. While religion is related to the creator, so that  bitcoin is not a religion.
Bitcoin is a business that deals with profit or loss, depending on the results of trade or investment.

metaphorically, it can be argued, but is it really so, I doubt it, because this coin does not fill us spiritually, it makes it possible to be financially filled, people believe, and want to get a lot of money due to the growth of Bitcoin, but they do not express those emotions that would usually express when praying to God. Faith - but artificial, because I really want to .... but prickly.

Religion lol. new comers like me, may be. you should see BTC  vs BCH lovers fighting eachother over any discussion. for them its more than religion lol but on a serious note for early adopters its pretty simple, they believe in Math.

Bitcoin as a religion seems to me to be too far-reaching statement. However, the fact is that people often use the term "believe", but probably not in the category of faith. Although probably some of these people treat cryptocurrencies as a religion. It seems to be a mistake, because if someone engages in investing in currency based only on faith, he makes a very big mistake, which can be very expensive.

there are some people who are acting as a cult member and spreading some believe thing about BTC, but BTC is not a cult or religion, there are a lot of other people who are thinking BTC as investment, or thinking BTC as scam, or thinking BTC as a currency - you cant insult their concept by tagging BTC with some cult freaks.

Bitcoin is like a belief with the Bitcoiner. They are people who believe in Bitcoin that can change the economy and the trend of using money in the future. Many people who are crazy about Bitcoin by always talking about good things to Bitcoin but pulling others into the market even when the bear market appears.

Yes, many market participants don't understand Bitcoin, but simply worship it. I think this is the result of a lack of education among investors. Many of the small investors just want to make money as quickly as possible, so none of them even tries to understand the essence.
Unfortunately, this attitude leads to the fact that during times of rising prices for Bitcoin, the crowds of its worshipers begin to shout that "Bitcoin is perfect", and during the fall of its price, "Bitcoin died, everything was gone."
In order to minimize this phenomenon, we need to talk more about Bitcoin and about technology. Over time, this will lead to more educated investors.

Bitcoin is clearly not a religion because it is related to money, namely digital currency designed to be used throughout the world, with a peer to peer system and decentralized so it is very efficient because it does not involve banks.
The thinking of bitcoin is that religion is very stupid, does not use logic and always assumes that what is believed is religion. With this it is clear that bitcoin is bitcoin which is digital money.

Lol - Religion is a poor investment strategy  ??? 

Na, not at all... You need to believe in what your investing in - otherwise your just a shmuck.

And typically - people are obsessed with making money. I don't think it needs to be a religion type deal to want to "Believe" your investment will pay off

It isn't fair to limit bitcoin and relate with bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies. From my understanding some used to segregate and stay away.

There were users who have questioned is bitcoin halal or not. It is upto them, when something is used for good there is nothing to complicate it relating with unwanted controversial links.

Bitcoin is not religion, about many people keep trusting bitcoin will be on higher price is not the same with faith or your religion, just optimist and hope bitcoin could growing up to higher price because have at the higher position about last two years.

In reality, those elements that you consider proper to a religion are no more than properties common to all human beings, when they cling to the fact that things can be better in adverse times.

There is a natural tendency in humans to cling to hope and become a defender of their positions, even if reality shows that things go in an opposite direction, and this also applies to many bitcoiners.

Bitcoin can indeed provide a very useful advantage for changing financial conditions for the better, indeed from the benefits it can provide pleasure but if you consider it a religion it will be very excessive.

In my opinion "bitcoin" contain many liberal ideals and for this reason it is becoming a symbol of the future, of "tothemoon" and of hope.  ;D

That's exactly right, it's too much when we consider bitcoin as a religion. bitcoin is a financial system that has a level of digitalization that is so sophisticated, we use bitcoin to facilitate financial transactions every day. Bitcoin will continue to grow and will have a huge market share. Bitcoin is a revolutionary in the financial system in the world, let's use bitcoin together and we will feel the benefits when the price of bitcoin continues to increase.

Bitcoin is not a religion if are in your mind it's of obvious bitcoin is the form of money lol, people say I believe or what so ever because they trust the pwoer and capability of bitcoin as a new currency.

Well all I can say about this is that, Bitcoin is same as with the concept of a religion but we cannot totally say Bitcoin is a religion, just the concept alone. Religions believes in a certain god they have in, but bitcoin are believing that it will change to a much more better crypto market status and will eventually be used globally world widely.

other will agree on this when they dont know what good thing about bitcoin
if they dont know the potential and the adoption happening in bitcoin

I think it just about profitable investment. Investor must be want to make profits from their investment and always optimistic in the future. Investor just want the best for his investment and i dont think bitcoin is religion because its not cult

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Actually, from the religious side, it is not recommended to invest in something that is not clear (understandable) because it will make us lose because we cannot understand everything, so if we do not understand the opportunities and risks of investing it is better not to do so because it will bear bad things .

Many discussions around encrypted currencies and related block chains have become increasingly toxic, and it is increasingly impossible for well-meaning people to have technical discussions without being attacked. With the discussion of real flaws, it has become a common practice for those flaws destined to fail in other environments to be immediately judged as heretical without any factual analysis, and the participation of well-meaning people becomes extremely expensive. At least some people are aware of extremely serious security vulnerabilities, and they choose to remain silent because of the highly toxic environment.

What used to be driven by curiosity, expectations of learning and improvement, creative feasibility, is now driven by blind greed, religious fanaticism, self-righteousness and self-expansion.

I don't have much hope for the future of projects inspired by this fanaticism, and its continued spread may damage real researchers in this field for many years. Among these technology projects, some have succeeded and some have failed - that's how technology evolves. The people who design these systems have shortcomings just like you and me, as well as these projects. Some projects are very suitable for some usage scenarios but not for others. Some projects are not suitable for any usage scenarios, and none of them is suitable for all usage scenarios. Discussions on these projects should focus on Technology in order to develop the field of research; the inclusion of religious fanaticism in these projects will certainly harm everyone.

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It depends on what religion your in,because we have our own beliefs and teachings ,but for me better learn firs everytime that money is involved for safe keeping

Bitcoin remains a digital asset and investment is not a belief or a religion. stupid people who understand that bitcoin is included because this time bitcoin itself is already well known as an investment

This is too strong comparison. Although at the begininig when Bitcoin first appeared some users had the strong belief and Bitcoin was much more then just the new technology and digital currency, it was morw about the way of life and new way of thinking. But today many see it only as a profit and way how to ger the money so I wouldn't compare it with religion.

Not to offend anybody but the way religion is put into this analogy is quite a bit exaggerated. Religion is more than anything, people die because of faith. Who else would want to die for bitcoin? Religion to many have been something so important and not materialistic on most case except for some may be like when religion is focused on worldly material. Bitcoin is different. It is something not to be regarded as religion, it is technology that people would want to use because of its utility. I think it is a misconception to connect bitcoin belief with religion. Not because you believe on it that you have faith. Religions needs faith not belief alone. Belief is just a matter of accepting the truth. And nobody could ever accept that bitcoin is going down or is a poor investment because they have seen how it made the lives of people comfortable and easy.

Come on, people believe in bitcoin doesn't mean they make bitcoin a religion? they believe in the future of bitcoin,
the concept carried by blockchain, users don't worship bitcoin? so what is at issue?

yeah, but its not like real religion because of many reason. but, its similar to religion because of believe to something.
for me, i believe in bitcoin but not give all of my time or power to this thing. bitcoin just for additional income even for every one.

In the first place, I don't see the connection of how does bitcoin become a religion?
It doesn't mean we believed in bitcoin its mean it has a connection to religion, I guess you are wrong with this
concepts. If we have a strong belief about in bitcoin, it means its part of our motivation to achieve our goal and target in this
industry.

Interesting suggestion but I don't think so.
We can have faith in bitcoin in the same way as we can have faith in our famous sport club, our partner, country etc.
But, religion is connected with spiritual aspect of our lives only.
Bitcoin is our dream for a better life, let's say but not religion.

I totally got your point in this subject. Knowing that so many people in our community always saying that they are believing but believing is nothing when there is no action. What actions can you do to support anything in the community?
- responding in every post with admirable answer
- following the forum rules
- dont just believe in HOLDing, just do it.

You guys are probably misunderstanding the word "believe" over here. By believing in bitcoin or crypto currency, they mean that they "trusts" the potential of the crypto currencies. They trust that the currency is the future based on facts and proof.
Do you really hold bitcoin just randomly? Or do you hold it because you trust (read believe) that the price will eventually rise?

Haha I've never heard it framed in that way

I totally disagree with you, you point isn't vibrant enough at all

Bitcoin isn't a religion surely, when we see some people using the sentence "I believe" about something, this doesn't mean that this thing is a religion, it simply means that these people have some faith or prediction positively in this thing. Bitcoin is a currency and an asset, it is in fact money, and people treat it this way; like treating fiat currencies, for example.

well so many people fail to really understand bitcoin and the blockchain technology and its working principles. They are just after making profit, thus they believe anything related to it as long as it gives them that hope of making profit soonest. Believing bitcoin is not bad for it as it goes to show they trust it.

Because the growth of the price of bitcoin itself is very dependent on the trust of its users, if the price of bitcoin continues to rise, rises and rises, then there is a believe that bitcoin will be very profitable, and they usually make purchases. What's meant by believing here is not Religion, because we are all here not only doing worship or prayer, except making purchases, sales, hodl, analysis of the rise and fall of the price of bitcoin. So, It's natural if they have opinions in such a way because we are big fans of bitcoin.
Then, what do you believe in bitcoin?
Do you believe in the popularity of bitcoin?

for the fact that people use the statement I believe in terms of bitcoin does not mean its a religion. They only believe its a technology which has so much to offer and they fully believe in everything that has to do with it. Remember there are lots of people who dont even want to hear about it.

I totally agree, indeed everything is true, I am careful and observe that, and it is very good about bitcoin

There is no causal connection between the fact that members of this forum use the phrases "I think," "I think," and religion. This is simply expressed its subjective point of view. We do not discuss technical and other problems that require actual confirmation of what was said. We at this forum express our opinions and discuss the opinions of others. It is not logical to compare it with religion and belief in the super-natural.

Because even if you have understanding you can't predict price because of too many factors.
So you know technology is revolutionary in bitcoin, its best invention in many many many years but still it can fail in terms of people/bug/politics.
Thats why people believing in price increase or not.

sadly, your statement is true about a huge number of people, the kinda worship Bitcoin as a god or religion or a cult.

I think you misunderstood something, people like to use Bitcoin because it's easy to used and it's decentralized, people like to invest in Bitcoin because it can give them big profit, look at the chart you will see how many times the Bitcoin had already multiply since it was created,there is no religion connected, Bitcoin gives hope for better life

Whatever the religion might be, finally what it insist is love and peace. Here cryptocurrency too is doing the same, and upon the same I we can say it is a religion because it has been developing peace and providing humanity among the common people who were part of the network.

This is a poor extrapolation, the opinion of a few does not make a technology a religion. Just like your hate does not represent everyone else's opinion.

Bitcoin is an experiment in game theory and economics, based in math and logic. Do your own research

I have different impression about crypto world :)
It looks that most people here are because of money or material wealth, not to share or give love or peace.
I don't see such values in the crypto world, specially if you read crypro forums like Bitcointalk.
I see a lot fights here, personal attacks even hate sometimes but maybe if BTC price start to grow again, we will see more happy and peaceful people here.

If people are so greedy, they won't be happy anyway because they just want to make and make a lot of money. That's why scammers are born to take advantage of the naive and ignorant people. If someone has the knowledge to make money in a good way, he might have to share it to his closest friends and relatives but not with anybody who he didn't trust at all. And this is how most people are fighting just for the sake of cryptocurrency. Money creates chaos and can create chaos.