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Title: Biggest question
Post by: TrezorMade on December 07, 2018, 05:44:05 PM
Most forums have chatbox but bitcointalk doesn't.... What do you guys think, does this forum need a chatbox or not? In my opinion it would make things much cooler  8)


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: Potato Chips on December 07, 2018, 05:51:41 PM
Chatbox for what? If someone has any question or sth to say, they can just post here. I don't see any significant reason on why is it needed. Its just another clutter and work for the mods. The positive effect should always outweigh the amount of work invested, imo

If you want a cryptocurrency related group chat, there's a lot in discord and telegram.



Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: dothebeats on December 07, 2018, 05:58:00 PM
This should be in Meta.

The idea of this forum is to post things related to bitcoin and/or developments made in the said crypto. Though this was somewhat becoming a hub for social interactions nowadays, I feel that it will lose its identity of being an old-looking forum if we had added that said feature here. It's fine as it is, and people can share ideas and whatnot on the boards (albeit the excessive spam, but whatever) so why add something that is not-so-important and does the same job as to what's currently existing now?


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: kabum21 on December 07, 2018, 06:00:38 PM
I also like a bit the idea of a chatbox, but this forum is not about such a simple topic or niche for it to be done, we would have thousands of people talking in that chatbox doing any kind of things that needed more moderation, and I think the team already has enough work for now.


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: bitart on December 07, 2018, 07:34:16 PM
The chatbox would be just a sandbox for trolls, scam coin advertisers and similar ones. The normal users would not benefit from it, moderating a chatbox is much harder and requires much more resources to be effective.
My opinion is that we can live without it...


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: SimpleCurrency on December 07, 2018, 07:36:36 PM
The chatbox would be just a sandbox for trolls, scam coin advertisers and similar ones. The normal users would not benefit from it, moderating a chatbox is much harder and requires much more resources to be effective.
My opinion is that we can live without it...

And because bitcointalk is the biggest Crypto related Forum with many user each day... I would say that the chat box will also be overloaded.


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: Kopyleft on December 07, 2018, 07:50:25 PM
Most forums have chatbox but bitcointalk doesn't....

Well, most forums having it doesn't make it relevant or necessary. It's possible to send a direct message to any user on the forum (as long as your rank is not restricted). And you can 'chat' through that means.


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: veleten on December 07, 2018, 07:57:19 PM
Most forums have chatbox but bitcointalk doesn't.... What do you guys think, does this forum need a chatbox or not? In my opinion it would make things much cooler  8)

Bitcointalk is called a forum for a reason
why would you need a chatbox is beyond me- to read various unrelated spam messages and to give mods more work than they can handle already?
if anything you can private message when you feel like chatting to someone, it provides plenty of functionality


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: pixie85 on December 07, 2018, 08:27:41 PM
What is the special feature that chats have over the forum? They allow people to write short messages fast, but you don't need that here. What are you going to write there? Hi everyone? Bitcoin is falling, look! I'm new here! How can I get merit and trust?

Chatbox needs constant moderation or it turns into trollbox with people writing profanities and spamming referrals and scam links to be annoying to others. It's much harder to spam when you have to write a post and more time passes before the link is clicked by a lot of people. Who is going to pay people to moderate it?



Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: franky1 on December 07, 2018, 10:04:08 PM
Most forums have chatbox but bitcointalk doesn't.... What do you guys think, does this forum need a chatbox or not? In my opinion it would make things much cooler  8)

what can be done is just make a IRC freenode link.
EG
webchat.freenode.net?channels=chatbox

then for any topic you create you can just change the bits after ? = to customise a room for specific topics


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 07, 2018, 10:28:40 PM
Some months ago, somebody brought this up before--that bitcointalk would somehow be made better by having a chat/trollbox, and the responses were overwhelmingly negative if I remember correctly.  I was one of the members against it.

I'm sure some people would use it, but I really think it would end up getting abused by scammers and spammers looking to promote their projects.  Plus it would need some sort of moderation, and with Theymos basically doing nothing (except the merit system and the most recent adjustment to it) about the spam in the important sections like Bitcoin Discussion, I highly doubt he'd be willing to hire a moderator for a trollbox.  Nor do I think a chatbox is what bitcointalk is lacking right now.  The forum very badly needs help in a lot of areas, and a spambox is so low on the priority list that I would suggest that it's not even on anybody's list of priorities right now.


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: TrezorMade on December 07, 2018, 11:46:40 PM
What is the special feature that chats have over the forum? They allow people to write short messages fast, but you don't need that here. What are you going to write there? Hi everyone? Bitcoin is falling, look! I'm new here! How can I get merit and trust?

Chatbox needs constant moderation or it turns into trollbox with people writing profanities and spamming referrals and scam links to be annoying to others. It's much harder to spam when you have to write a post and more time passes before the link is clicked by a lot of people. Who is going to pay people to moderate it?


The team has enough money to pay people, they are just lazy. They have received 8,247.73 BTC from donations and currently only 266.43 BTC left. They are literally rich as f-ck


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: Marshall14 on December 08, 2018, 04:20:57 AM
The team has enough money to pay people, they are just lazy. They have received 8,247.73 BTC from donations and currently only 266.43 BTC left. They are literally rich as f-ck
It's not about how wealthy the forum is,definitely we all know the forum is doing well financially and can cope with any little or major alteration,and your proposal is one of'em

It's simply basically about it(your suggestion)being unnecessary and in no way do I see it developing the forum,it'll just be used for the wrong reasons why the spammers really.
It's definitely not the "worst suggestion in the world",but we're not in dire need of this at the moment


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on December 08, 2018, 06:09:06 AM

It's definitely not the "worst suggestion in the world"

If this is what you think then I don't think you truly understand what a chat/troll box can do to a forum or site when used wrongly, for better understanding register an account or visit MERCATOX EXCHANGE to see for yourself how the chat/troll box is been misused by both scammers, spammer to pass wrong information creating fud and most disturbing, paid campaigns are been carried out by project deserving the masses of what a great project they're offering all in the name of marketing for selling worthless tokens.
The suggestion above is the worst idea I have come across, reading the replies above will make you understand why it's the worst.


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: mdayonliner on December 08, 2018, 12:53:33 PM
Most forums have chatbox but bitcointalk doesn't.... What do you guys think, does this forum need a chatbox or not? In my opinion it would make things much cooler  8)
As the title says "(The) Biggest question" - I thought it really is a BIG one LOL

Anyway, I guess we have talked about it several times. It's a forum not a social media. Why would I bother to chat with people where I can create a topic to ask whatever I want to?


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: bitart on December 08, 2018, 02:41:50 PM
It seems that the biggest question has been answered (again), so OP can lock the topic before it becomes a spamfest... or someone else, a mod or anyone


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: Pmalek on December 08, 2018, 03:13:00 PM
A chat is not needed here at all. I am also against this idea not only due to the big amount of spam and malware that could be posted in the chat. But also because that might mean that some quality discussions and posts could be transferred to the chat instead of being discussed here on the forum because it is easier to post it in the chat instead of opening a thread or writing in an already created thread about it.


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: The Cryptovator on December 08, 2018, 04:33:08 PM
This forum is chatbox itself, why need another? You can ask question and discuss openly, also chatting each other by quote. In a result you can see all the previous discussion. But if open chat system peoples will spam and you will not get appropriate answer. Especially this is bitcoin related forum, peoples will try to spam as you can see on telegram how peoples are spamming. Even we don't know who adding which group. So I am not really fan of this.


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: sudeshkumar on December 08, 2018, 04:39:59 PM
I personally feel that this forum provides enough liberty to post high quality views and discussions are also available so another chatbox will be an extra unwanted activity.


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: jeromix on December 08, 2018, 04:48:56 PM
Yes it would be better to have a chat box so that we can have a good live conversation. Hopefully in the new forum this will be implemented. It sounds great but still it should have a moderator to ban unwanted users that are good for.nothing scammer and hackers spamming malware like those in the telegram channels. Almost in a group that had a user used to spam malware and not only one but more than 5 user.


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: theymos on December 08, 2018, 05:32:27 PM
I don't have any interest in a stupid little trollbox thing, though maybe it'd be cool to run and slightly integrate an end-to-end-encrypted real-time-chat server. Has anyone looked into Matrix (https://matrix.org)?


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: Quickfant on December 09, 2018, 01:11:09 AM
I don't have any interest in a stupid little trollbox thing, though maybe it'd be cool to run and slightly integrate an end-to-end-encrypted real-time-chat server. Has anyone looked into Matrix (https://matrix.org)?

I don't see the need of it honestly. If people want to talk among themselves then they can just use private messages. If they want it encrypted then they can encrypt it themselves with PGP. I don't want this site to become one of these forums with flashy texts and stupid chatboxes which only hinder the information on the site and causes drama among users.

Chatboxes are a breeding ground for immaturity and drama because of the lack of thinking time people have. On this forum it normally takes people to discuss things a long time due to other things on the forum but I guarantee a chatbox would just lead to arguments. Especially because we have the trust system and everyone would be calling each other scammers it would literally be hell for the real users of the forum. I don't want this forum to become a playground.

Matrix is an interesting project and a unique take on chatting. I like that they aren't looking to make an exclusive app and are looking to make it as accessible as possible for everyone. I followed XMPP before as they had similar objectives but I just felt that they fall short. Seems that Matrix acknowledges this and is willing to take XMPPs shortcomings and improve on them.


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: MainIbem on December 09, 2018, 09:27:38 AM
Most forums have chatbox but bitcointalk doesn't.... What do you guys think, does this forum need a chatbox or not? In my opinion it would make things much cooler  8)
You may have noticed the button PM. That is a chat box. Every member account has it and it is the channel to chat with any member you wish to. Kindly utilize the PM button it is bitcointalk's style of a chatbox. IMO!  :P


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: ahmedarafat on December 10, 2018, 07:41:33 AM
I think bitcointalk forum open  a new discord channel  then it's very useful for new member.
They chat easily high rank member and high rank member helps new member for different question.


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: gogrowglow on December 11, 2018, 08:39:06 AM
No need for it, it would just be  redundant because we are doing it  here already in this forum, it will just add more clutters  here.  Anyway if you need more informations or questions regarding Bitcoin or this forum, you can  read or research it from other sources, so as not to add more works for the people here.  Mostly FAQ are already answered just researched it, that way, along the way, you will learn more about Bitcoin and crytocurrency in general.


Title: Re: Biggest question
Post by: Onuohakk on December 11, 2018, 09:41:20 AM
You must probably be getting something twisted

It's bitcointalk forum not bitcointalk chat

This is not a dating site or the rest of them...   

And beside on everyone profile there is an option to message them although some has restrictions to those who can message them.

Or better still drop your issue as a topic and you would get reply