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There are 100s of managers competing each other and maintaining a service topic by regularly bumping it. But, at the same time there are campaigns which are being managed by owners as part time. If a campaign goes without any issues like having measures for fighting against spammers and alt accounts abusers, we do not need to concern them.

I like to suggest;
Why not few managers to come forward to manage a small campaign for very less fee or even for free of cost.
Why owners are not ready to accept the fact that a proper manager is essential for maintaining the healthy balance of this community. (They must understand that improper campaign management may end of supporting spammer and may not produce the expected results when they hire alt accounts).

I agree every campaign owner will not prefer wasting their money by having inefficient participants. Still, they want to save the money which is supposed to be spent for the mangers. (I am not seeing any other reason for not hiring a proper manager for a campaign, or else they must be over confident on their managing skills :P, I am sorry in that case as that will work anywhere else too).

In recent times, I have seen a lots of drama in a signature campaign along with lots of managers are still trying to find their opportunity to prove themselves. Why not this community take steps to meet these two ends effectively.

There nothing the community can do about the managers situations because we know the proper which will believed in their work and level of maturity but the project owners are the one that need to do an investigation before hiring a manager for their project in other for them to have the right result.

Respect to Mr Yahoo62278 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1704638.0) and Hhampuz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4873710.0)  for their awesome job in terms of managing.

The rule is simple: Forum should have their own set of dedicated campaign managers who are allowed to manage a campaign. Any rank below Hero member should be restricted from managing campaigns.

There definitely are people offering campaign management for extremely cheap or free in the Services section- you'll just have to dig a bit deep. Most people aren't willing to manage large campaigns for free or cheap as proper management can be a bit of a time-consuming activity depending on how many people are in a campaign, and most people who offer their services for cheap are usually members who aren't extremely reputable, but there are people who offer campaign management services cheaply out there.

Most Bitcoin paying campaigns have a manager and there's only a few that manage their own campaign. In bounty campaigns it's worse from what i've seen several bounties that have a manager doesn't even care about what you post.

Every manager has a different fee for their service because it depends on the amount of people they're going to manage and how long the campaign would last. If all managers offer they same low fee then most campaigns would probably hire that one manager who's got a lot of experience over the others.  Managers that offer free services are mostly new and doesn't have any experience.

As what suzanne said. The community can't stop these problems from happening because we're not the one behind these campaigns. We can't stop campaign owners from hiring any campaign manager and we can't stop managers from being incompetent.

If we don't have proper manager to manage the campaign then shit posters will got selected which make no effect on the advertisement,the reason why the owners don't want to spend extra money on the campaign manager is they don't care about the quality,all they just want is quantity so forum need to have some rules to be followed to become manager to reduce spams in future.

Who is going to manage a campaign for free? Have you been a campaign manager before? It might sound easy, but it is a lot

of work and a lot of drama. Sorting through 1000s of posts to calculate the qualifying posts and also having the huge

responsibility to safeguard the owners funds, is not an easy task. Quality managers come at a price, because they add a lot

of value to a campaign.  ;)

I think someone who's starting to gain experience as a manager to be added for his portfolio. I've seen some of did this before and pretty sure lately they've been hired for a bounty project.

There will be managers that are likely to accept campaigns to be managed for lesser fee but the effort would be minimal. The logic applies, what you pay is what you get.

Those who are the people who never managed any campaign yet so they were trying to get into their foot as manager by providing offer as manage first three weeks for free or just completely for the campaign period but as you said who never have any experience yet can't provide their best as manager even though they are very good poster.

It would be easier if you provide some real scenarios to understand your concern better.

I guess a case-study on real problems will do better job on what you wished for this community. I have seen many discussions on effective campaign and bounty management but no one is taking them into action. I guess yours is the latest one. Put more efforts to make your concerns into action by spearing awareness and need of that to this community.

The signature campaigns are getting deteriorate day by day,so we don't need any more new campaign managers and the current best managers are very free at their management services for now.

We just need the managers who can completely avoid spams but most of the bounty managers allows that to happens so having new one will make the conditions more worse.

Not really. The signature campaigns are still going on in full swing and there is a lack of good managers especially in the AltCoin signature campaigns. Those campaigns aren't considered as good but they posters their still affect the forum's quality standards and hence, they need to be controlled by the good campaign managers.

That's what I'm talking about.

Don't say not really,its just happening these days.No ICO based signature campaign is running most of them were gambling related bitcoin signature campaigns that is why people choosing bounties where managers have no rules for posting they just need quantity of advertisement.

Maybe the bounty signature campaign also have restrictions for number of participants can join this make the managers to control spams if they want too.But we can't have any rule like you mentioned.

I think as pointed out above, the only real campaigns still sustaining are observeably just industries that are already running. Products with established userbase amd providing real services for real needs. Hence gambling and mixer services, and a few exchange services.

Everything else ICO related can't sustain itself, good management may delay the inevitable but can't prevent that. They can bring value though, that's well recognised.

I agree that only managers approved by forum staff should be allowed to manage campaigns. But I'm not sure that users below Hero rank should be permitted from managing campaigns.
You're probably right if you talk about Bitcoin paying campaigns. Number of Bitcoin paying campaigns are getting smaller and smaller eventually. New campaigns appears rarely and it runs for short time only. There are several long term campaigns left which are running for years. Probably such type of advertising isn't that effective, considrring big expenses. Especially when you can pay for advertising with tokens made from thin air.
Now there are enough professional managers and way too many "managers". The problem that mostly ICO projects prefere to hire "managers", probably because their services are cheaper. But it's likely that in future they will lose this job - we see number of ICO's getting smaller every month, and there are less money collected in these ICO's. But I wouldn't be surprised if ICO markets will revive if new bitcoin bull run will begin.

Definitely the bull run will also increase the number of signature campaigns running since most of the ICOs were paused and postponed their sales for now so they will be relaunching their campaigns soon when the market gets healthier to collect some funds at early stages.

In the first place mate, being a campaign Manager is not an easy job, especially if you are managing the campaign. Because each BM I believed had their own team who will manage the bounty project. Though it is true that there are lot of BM out there, but not giving a chance to manage one ico project most of it who had a project most are the one who are the old BM here who build good reputation in the forum and good experienced in managing bounty. In short, having a portfolio in bounty campaign management is an advantage.

Being the proper campaign manager is not an easy job,if someone thinks that managing stakes and calculating post is their job then they are not good managers,they need to find the spammers and scammers and help the forum keep clean will be the good reputed ones.