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Title: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: mikeywith on December 13, 2018, 01:40:51 AM
 

  The best to not be very disappointed is by actually being prepared for the worst. if you know what could and may happen then you will be less vulnerable.


Many people are losing their minds and money over this bearish trend, the problem with average Joe is that they usually enter the market at the very wrong time, and leave it in the worst time .


Crypto market just as in every other market is nothing but how W.buffet defined it  "a mechanism for the transfer of wealth from the impatient to the paitient"

what you need to understand that every market consist of 3 main phases that must repeat every now and then.


Bull period :  > could be the worst time to enter aka people who bought for 19k last year

This is something like 2017 where price moved from around 900$ to 20,000$ in a year gaining around 2000%
it's also something similar to Sep 2013 to  Dec 2013 when price moved from 95$ to 1100$ in 4 months


Bear period: > a better time to enter
From end 2013 to Jan 2015 price entered a bear market from 1170 to 160$ ( lasted almost a year)
From Dec 2017 to present !

Sideways : > the best time to enter

From Jan 2015 to Nov 2015 price remained in a sideways market for almost a year  before starting a new bull run,
expected to begin around Q1 2019
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in fact if you open any stock chart that has a data of say 30-50-70 years and watch it closely, it will look very similar to bitcoin chart, these market cycles are a MUST.

the only thing that may change is the length of each of these periods, the current bear market does not have to exactly last the same as the 2013-2015 bear market, it could be longer or shorter , but rest assure that as soon as we stop making new lower lows, we will not go back to ATH the next month of two, the sideways market has to come before that.

the good thing about crypto being still a small market , is that even in it's sideways market it can still do 50-100% moves, so for those who trade they can still find positions to enter, but for the holders, really sorry there is nothing much you can do beside being prepared for the average scenario which is based on the crypto history with estimate figures tells us this.

a bear market continues to 2019 Jan, with small corrections to the upside before making new lows.
Q1,Q2,Q3 of 2019 are nothing but a side way market where price will keep bouncing from whichever the bottom will be which according to history repeating itself is anywhere from 1 to 3k, and then Q4 2019 or Q1 2020 a new bull run takes place.

make no mistake this is crypto ( a very small market cap ) a rally of 100% to 6k now MEANS NOTHING , every rally up will be sold out as long as we do not hit a quite long sideways market.


this is the average scenario of history repeating itself. which IMO is very likely to play out. so as a holder who do not know how to sell/buy what you should do is simply invest only what you can afford to lose, and be prepared for a scenario that says the price you bough for is never going to show up until 2020, so if you bough for 9k and now you don't know what to do, i suggest you get busy with something else and only check once in a few months, other wise you will give in and trust me the moment you do , the bull market will start.

now indeed this is not a financial advice what so ever, but I know that once you are prepared for what could possibly happen, you will avoid disappointments.

Good luck.








Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: coinplus on December 13, 2018, 03:53:45 PM
That's why people always say diversify your investments. Even the stock market could collapse as you can see and there is nothing you can do to actually stop the bleeding in crypto yourself hence even investing into those two won't be enough in days like these. Hence when you are investing remember that there are other options than just stocks and crypto, diversify all of them at once and get into more stuff.

For example, if you are investing into stocks do that with 10+ stocks, when you are investing into crypto do that with 5+ crypto currencies but also have some gold aside, if you can invest into some real estate projects, put money into bonds and many more stuff like that. If you do that than in return you will have a safer option and even if all of them drop at the same time at least you will know that economy can't continue to drop all the time.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: mikeywith on December 13, 2018, 05:14:43 PM
That's why people always say diversify your investments. Even the stock market could collapse as you can see and there is nothing you can do to actually stop the bleeding in crypto yourself hence even investing into those two won't be enough in days like these. Hence when you are investing remember that there are other options than just stocks and crypto, diversify all of them at once and get into more stuff.

For example, if you are investing into stocks do that with 10+ stocks, when you are investing into crypto do that with 5+ crypto currencies but also have some gold aside, if you can invest into some real estate projects, put money into bonds and many more stuff like that. If you do that than in return you will have a safer option and even if all of them drop at the same time at least you will know that economy can't continue to drop all the time.


100% agree with diversity. also some times not investing in anything is the best investment. honestly the whole stock market is setting up for a massive dip based on charts, 2019 is not going to be kind to most people in my opinion.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: exstasie on December 13, 2018, 05:45:08 PM
That's why people always say diversify your investments. Even the stock market could collapse as you can see and there is nothing you can do to actually stop the bleeding in crypto yourself hence even investing into those two won't be enough in days like these. Hence when you are investing remember that there are other options than just stocks and crypto, diversify all of them at once and get into more stuff.

For example, if you are investing into stocks do that with 10+ stocks, when you are investing into crypto do that with 5+ crypto currencies but also have some gold aside, if you can invest into some real estate projects, put money into bonds and many more stuff like that. If you do that than in return you will have a safer option and even if all of them drop at the same time at least you will know that economy can't continue to drop all the time.

100% agree with diversity. also some times not investing in anything is the best investment. honestly the whole stock market is setting up for a massive dip based on charts, 2019 is not going to be kind to most people in my opinion.

I'd give it a month before making any grand assumptions. We're heading into the holidays; volume should drop a lot and things will probably stay quiet through year end. At a crucial juncture like this (where we could be at either a swing low or on the edge of a cliff), the first few weeks of the year are the most important.

I have a feeling this stock market correction may end up looking like 2015-2016.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: dothebeats on December 13, 2018, 05:58:04 PM
We're heading into the holidays; volume should drop a lot and things will probably stay quiet through year end. At a crucial juncture like this (where we could be at either a swing low or on the edge of a cliff), the first few weeks of the year are the most important.

This is also one thing I noticed when bitcoin is opening its doors to a new year: price tends to be somewhat stagnant as most traders are still in the holiday hangover and a lot are still returning from vacations. Should the first few weeks of the year turn out to be positive, it's a great indicator that the market is in for the greens, though this should not always be taken religiously as we all know that the bitcoin market is so weird and is entirely different from the stock markets that we are so familiar with.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: ngusmin on December 13, 2018, 06:28:52 PM
Disappointment cannot be eliminated because of poor crypto conditions, but we can lighten our disappointment a little by staying calm and believing that the market will grow.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: clrpod on December 13, 2018, 07:08:17 PM
Disappointment is an interpretation of your reality, it is not your actual reality. Therefore everything is always up to your own mind to decide. Some people may lose everything they have and be distraught, others may shrug it off as a life lesson. You can minimize negative situations in your life but you'll always be faced with some and the only way to not be disappointed in those times is to learn how to handle negativity and turn it in to positivity.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: shield132 on December 13, 2018, 08:20:45 PM
It's hard to determine best time to buy bitcoin, especially when you are new. From my view, I think scenario always shows you best time. Lately price was stable between 6-7K usd, then it felt to 4K, now we have 3K. I think this 3K is a new limit (under this price won't fall or at least won't be under 2K again) and bitcoin won't fall much, it will simply destroy coin and I highly believe it won't happen.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: harizen on December 13, 2018, 08:56:15 PM
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Bull period :  > could be the worst time to enter aka people who bought for 19k last year

This is something like 2017 where price moved from around 900$ to 20,000$ in a year gaining around 2000%
it's also something similar to Sep 2013 to  Dec 2013 when price moved from 95$ to 1100$ in 4 months

There are lots of advantages that can be get even by riding the bull trend. Strategy wise.

Others just says the 2017 is a worst time because we already know what happened next. If you are on the situation that day, who will taught that btc will be as much as down today? What if the other way around happened? And even history will repeat, surely majority will still buy at the peak because no one knows what will happened tomorrow.

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Bear period: > a better time to enter
From end 2013 to Jan 2015 price entered a bear market from 1170 to 160$ ( lasted almost a year)
From Dec 2017 to present !

Just like above, since we already know what happened, we now conclude that their is really a best time to enter which is should;.



The bottom line: as long as people understand the risks once they put money on crypto, there is no such thing as "exact best time" to execute something. They should understand how volatile crypto is so in the time where bull and bear are actively and forcely dominating the market, they should have some sort of plan to deal on it or else, they will be wrecked.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: davis196 on December 14, 2018, 06:59:28 AM
If you can't handle the disappointments when investing in BTC,just focus on your job and forget about investing in crypto.In trading(this includes crypto trading as well) the disappointments will be way more than the happy moments(even if you make big profits).If you are not prepared for that,just don't trade.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: teilwalL05 on December 14, 2018, 08:48:01 AM
An Unpredictable word that is how we can describe bitcoin, A total unknown to people that are just starting to ride it, We can never know when is the start of the bull and bear run may be, And both Runs have an audience that is very disappointed with each situation just like when we are in the Bullish Market people didn't expect the wild pump on bitcoin that day and they wouldn't know if they can still enter the ride or not and disappointed that they didn't catch up with the pump, And in the Bearish Market people that have entered their investment in 2017 have failed to sell some bitcoin to gain profit right now they didn't expect the total value of bitcoin now and they didn't expect the price will drop this much, I really think in both markets there are disappointments it is on your will and determination if you have the guts to continue or not and if you can decide to enter or not.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: Kemarit on December 14, 2018, 11:03:08 AM


  The best to not be very disappointed is by actually being prepared for the worst. if you know what could and may happen then you will be less vulnerable.



Of course not just in crypto but in other markets you should always be prepared. The problem with most investors is that they don't know the risk, or at least mitigate it. They think that the price will go on parabolic rise specially the peak last December. A lot of irrational buyers thought that the price would like to go above the $20,000 mark. They kept on buying at the top and selling at the dip, wherein it should be the other way around. Now they got burned and totally blamed the market. Also they don't know that bitcoin is good as a long term investment, so instead of selling off, they should be accumulating at this point and wait for the next coming months or years to be able to get a good ROI.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: sorrysteve1 on December 14, 2018, 12:21:52 PM
The biggest thing is to understand your decision and the inherent risk, too many people get caught up in the potential upside that they seem to neglect that a negative outcome is also a possibility. If you make informed decisions based on research and not emotion then you should be able to limit disappointments.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: clrpod on December 14, 2018, 12:31:41 PM


  The best to not be very disappointed is by actually being prepared for the worst. if you know what could and may happen then you will be less vulnerable.



Of course not just in crypto but in other markets you should always be prepared. The problem with most investors is that they don't know the risk, or at least mitigate it. They think that the price will go on parabolic rise specially the peak last December. A lot of irrational buyers thought that the price would like to go above the $20,000 mark. They kept on buying at the top and selling at the dip, wherein it should be the other way around. Now they got burned and totally blamed the market. Also they don't know that bitcoin is good as a long term investment, so instead of selling off, they should be accumulating at this point and wait for the next coming months or years to be able to get a good ROI.

Even people making wise decisions will be faced with disappointment. And those making foolish decisions can still learn to deal with their disappointment. We do not live in a world of perfect foresight so it is inevitable that people will make incorrect decisions. The difference between the wise people and the unwise is that the wise are aware of this and therefore they are not disappointment in themselves and their actions.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: lelylely on December 14, 2018, 05:31:08 PM
Disappointment is human nature if what is targeted is not achieved, such as the crypto market is getting down and it makes a lot of people disappointed. To avoid disappointment in crypto investment is to invest as much as we can to lose, crypto is risky and if it cannot accept losses, then do not over-invest.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: jrrsparkles on December 14, 2018, 05:47:10 PM
If someone want to make money from bitcoin investments then they should need to wait for their time to come,if they enters at bull and selling at bear will be the worst place for an investor to be and most of the investors are facing this currently.Bitcoin charts maybe similar to chart but we still don't have enough data to analyse this is following the chart or not so don't invest based on chart in my opinion.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: gabmen on December 15, 2018, 03:59:05 PM
Disappointment is human nature if what is targeted is not achieved, such as the crypto market is getting down and it makes a lot of people disappointed. To avoid disappointment in crypto investment is to invest as much as we can to lose, crypto is risky and if it cannot accept losses, then do not over-invest.

These happen when expectations are not met. If you're not expecting a bull run any time soon, then an extended bear market wouldn't have come as that much of a surprise. And you could've in a way prepared for it as well. Managing expectations avoid disappointments most of the time.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: okala on December 15, 2018, 06:08:44 PM
Thank you so much for this write up and if I have merits I could have give one to this post.  Cryptocurrencies investments and bitcoin trading is simple very risky venture but few people look at fact and figure before investing into it.  I could remember that many people that lose money in trading in both forex,  Cryptocoins and stock market do so for lack of knowledge on how the stock market work.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: coinluisa on December 15, 2018, 11:28:10 PM
How to avoid disappointment?dont expect anything but study and learn it so you will not be disappointed to what you invest. Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies is risky so iys up to you how to manage and handle it.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: mikeywith on December 16, 2018, 01:28:26 AM
Disappointment is human nature if what is targeted is not achieved, such as the crypto market is getting down and it makes a lot of people disappointed. To avoid disappointment in crypto investment is to invest as much as we can to lose, crypto is risky and if it cannot accept losses, then do not over-invest.

These happen when expectations are not met. If you're not expecting a bull run any time soon, then an extended bear market wouldn't have come as that much of a surprise. And you could've in a way prepared for it as well. Managing expectations avoid disappointments most of the time.

you summarized everything i had to say, i would have given you a 100 merit if i had them  ;D


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: liuqi on December 16, 2018, 11:25:54 AM
How to avoid disappointment?dont expect anything but study and learn it so you will not be disappointed to what you invest. Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies is risky so iys up to you how to manage and handle it.
All the investments are risky so we should not blame the Bitcoin and altcoin, stock investment and forex trading also difficult to predict so experience is the only key of any industry and If they confident in crypto platform surely anyone makes profit. I hope next year everyone believe this platform.


Title: Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC.
Post by: bitbunnny on December 16, 2018, 01:30:52 PM
First of all you have to avoid the idea that Bitcoin will make you rich and that in relatively short period of time. Also, you have to be aware of price volatility and risk that investment bring with itself. For me these are the main points to avoid disappointment.
Just remember that the price goes up and down and that you might face the loss too. Also don't expect too much even if you gain profit, don't forget that situation could easily change.
Bitcoin is not some kind of magic that will make you rich over night, be realistic.