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Title: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: Marina5 on December 15, 2018, 06:02:56 PM
Now a days newbies are trying to convince high ranking's people to get at least 1 Merit because they are unable to join bounty/other campaigns. I think some high ranked persons are helping those newbies who don't deserve Merit. Where Merit is not needed, we are seeing that there Merit has been given. Hopefully authority will take action against such kind of people who are using Merit unnecessarily.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: dogtana on December 15, 2018, 06:07:44 PM
Thank you for this really insightful and useful post, you bring on a completely new persepctive (not).


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: suchmoon on December 15, 2018, 06:12:05 PM
Hopefully authority will take action against such kind of people who are using Merit unnecessarily.

Have you reported this to the police?


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: mdayonliner on December 15, 2018, 06:13:55 PM
Merit has been given. Hopefully authority will take action against such kind of people who are using Merit unnecessarily.
Now a days forum members really don't care much about merit abusing (I guess). If you spot a post which was not merit worthy then bring it in public, tell us why do you think it's wrong. Don't expect any result though.

PS: Avoid forum politics by the way.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: Coyster on December 15, 2018, 06:16:51 PM
Now a days newbies are trying to convince high ranking's people to get at least 1 Merit because they are unavailable to join bounty/other campaigns
Exactly the same way you're trying to convince us to give you merits in disguise of being helpful and being concerned with what you claim is merits being used for the wrong purpose
. I think some high ranked persons are helping those newbies who don't deserve Merit
If you have found or come across a case of blatant merit abuse,fell free to post/report such users, but apparently you haven't cos you make this statement with no evidence,not even a link
Hopefully authority will take action against such kind of people who are using Merit unnecessarily.
The forum/moderators have been doing such already,as they get tagged by DT members.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: Marina5 on December 15, 2018, 06:17:04 PM
Hopefully authority will take action against such kind of people who are using Merit unnecessarily.

Have you reported this to the police?
No need. I am only concerning the authority who are able to take good decision through online. I just want to see the forum clean and good uses of Merit.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: Marina5 on December 15, 2018, 06:24:08 PM
Exactly the same way you're trying to convince us to give you merits in disguise of being helpful and being concerned with what you claim is merits being used for the wrong purpose
I am not searching for Merit. I am sharing my opinion just. But in reality, everyone wants benefits.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: Jet Cash on December 15, 2018, 06:25:11 PM
Now a days newbies are trying to convince high ranking's people to give at least 1 Merit because they are unavailable to join bounty/other campaigns.

They are doing this by creating redundant threads, and they are often just repeats of previous topics. It doesn't seem to earn them any merits, and it often gets them onto the ignore lists of the merit awarders.

It would help if they took some trouble to improve their English as well.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: bones261 on December 15, 2018, 06:25:58 PM
This basically sums up what the administration is going to do concerning giving merits away to "unworthy" posts:


If they complain about amounts, tell them to complain to me. It's best if sources try to exhaust their source allocations, even if it means giving posts higher amounts than is typical. If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire. That way there are more people capable of sending merit, and the "merit economy" is less top-down.

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

Aside from that, if people complain about whether things deserve merit at all, then that's something to perhaps think about, but if you conclude that they're wrong, then that's that. You don't need to stress about it or defend yourself constantly. It's conceivable that someday you and I will end up disagreeing too much about this stuff and I'll remove your source status, but it's really not a big deal.

The topsendban list is just a first indication of abuse, and many excellent people are on it. Your place on there acts as a sort of benchmark: eg. chandra12 has a similar score there, but whereas you are an extremely active merit-giver with a diverse selection of posts merited (most of which anyone would agree with), chandra12 only has two large merit sends. His behavior in comparison to yours while having a similar topsendban score is what creates a strong abuse impression.

I appreciate the work of you and other sources who take it seriously!

If you have specific complaints about how someone is dispensing the merit, simply start a thread in the Reputation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0) board. If your gripe has any merit, Theymos will most likely take notice and take the appropriate action.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: bitart on December 15, 2018, 07:09:56 PM
Hopefully authority will take action against such kind of people who are using Merit unnecessarily.

Have you reported this to the police?
No need. I am only concerning the authority who are able to take good decision through online. I just want to see the forum clean and good uses of Merit.

Exactly the same way you're trying to convince us to give you merits in disguise of being helpful and being concerned with what you claim is merits being used for the wrong purpose
I am not searching for Merit. I am sharing my opinion just. But in reality, everyone wants benefits.

You have posted these posts just one following the other, check the rules, you'd be better to try to combine your posts into one if you want to reply to more posts.

There are specific topics for reporting merit abuse, you can check there maybe someone have already reported the strange things you are talking about, and if nobody has reported it, report it.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: pugman on December 15, 2018, 07:11:53 PM
Bitch shut the fuck up


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: Kopyleft on December 15, 2018, 08:11:07 PM
Now a days forum members really don't care much about merit abusing (I guess). If you spot a post which was not merit worthy then bring it in public, tell us why do you think it's wrong. Don't expect any result though..

The reason for that is because quality and the worth of a  post is subjective and opinions can be very diverse with no laid down procedure to follow. Regulating merits in any way and taking strict actions may just reduce the flow of merits.
Theymos is of the opinion that if they aren't merit sources then the abuse is very insignificant and does not count for much.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: The Cryptovator on December 15, 2018, 08:15:00 PM
Why we need to convince them? Actually we are responsible for the market condition. If we try to control the market, mostly it is possible.
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Sorry mate, you should receive too much merit on above post but I don't have. Really I did not want to bother reply on this thread, but can you explain briefly below quote ?
I think some high ranked persons are helping those newbies who don't deserve Merit. Where Merit is not needed, we are seeing that there Merit has been given
Make a list of merited post who do not deserve merit and explain why you think they do not deserve. Better send PM to Admin about your problem.
If they complain about amounts, tell them to complain to me.

Wondering you just woke up and complain about merit and higher rank.



Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: jackg on December 15, 2018, 08:20:29 PM
Exactly the same way you're trying to convince us to give you merits in disguise of being helpful and being concerned with what you claim is merits being used for the wrong purpose
I am not searching for Merit. I am sharing my opinion just. But in reality, everyone wants benefits.

To me this means: "I'm not searching for merits, but I'd like some" which is essentially the question being asked before...

TBH, I'd like to see a lot of members giving newbies their first merit, even if they don't deserve it at all (it might give them to kick to want to try to get more)... Also, if you earnt a merit when you came here originally and have made another 1000+ posts and not earnt another, I think you'd be more likely to give up than not getting a merit at all. (I have to say I have given merits before and thought "they don't deserve that merit" - but the merit system is irreversible for a reason, the admin want even accidental merits to stay as they don't make too much of a difference).


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 15, 2018, 08:46:06 PM
Now a days newbies are trying to convince high ranking's people to get at least 1 Merit because they are unable to join bounty/other campaigns.
This sentence doesn't even make sense.  It's the Newbies who need 1 merit to rank up, and I'm not sure who you think is trying to convince someone to do something.  What I think is that you haven't been here long enough to start running your lips about the merit system and what you think of it being abused.  If you'd been here long enough you'd know most merit abuse goes unpunished but not unnoticed.  So don't you worry your pretty little head about it.  *Edit* I misread the year OP registered.  Now I'm fairly certain this is an alt account that he's trying to rank up.

PS: Avoid forum politics by the way.
That's a good idea in general, but is a solid piece of advice for a member who hasn't been here long and doesn't understand the system and abuse thereof he's trying to talk about.

To me this means: "I'm not searching for merits, but I'd like some" which is essentially the question being asked before...
Of course that's what it means.  Any time you see a noob starting a thread in Meta about merits, he's looking to get merited.  OP struggles with English, and I highly doubt he's going to be earning merits if he keeps trying to post in that language.  Best bet would be to try the local boards and hope there's one that fits and that there's a merit source lurking about.

Bitch shut the fuck up
I'd probably have said exactly that if I wasn't trying to be less abrasive.  Trying.  I'm not 100% sure it's going to work out.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: yahoo62278 on December 15, 2018, 08:55:44 PM
Bitch shut the fuck up
Best response I've seen all month


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: Gvanca24 on December 15, 2018, 09:28:01 PM
Now a days newbies are trying to convince high ranking's people to get at least 1 Merit because they are unable to join bounty/other campaigns. I think some high ranked persons are helping those newbies who don't deserve Merit. Where Merit is not needed, we are seeing that there Merit has been given. Hopefully authority will take action against such kind of people who are using Merit unnecessarily.

i havenot merit now, but check my history, i havenot problem about join in bounty.

i think you make post becouse you want merits :)

yeah, i want merit to. but i know, for merits, i want make good and helpfull posts. make some good post, helpfull, and trusted newss.

and maby you will got some merits.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: Findingnemo on December 15, 2018, 09:46:18 PM
i havenot merit now, but check my history, i havenot problem about join in bounty.

i think you make post becouse you want merits :)

yeah, i want merit to. but i know, for merits, i want make good and helpfull posts. make some good post, helpfull, and trusted newss.

and maby you will got some merits.
If you want to join on signature bounties you need atleast 1 merits to be a Jr.rank member which allows you to wear signature.

P.S:If you really want to have merit then you need to built your English grammar little bit more atleast to level of creating constructive statements.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: SportbetMaster on December 15, 2018, 09:56:03 PM
Bitch shut the fuck up
Best response I've seen all month

what if this response was given from an other forum member; will you have the same attitude than this one?


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 15, 2018, 09:57:51 PM
Bitch shut the fuck up
Best response I've seen all month

what if this response was given from an other forum member; will you have the same attitude than this one?
Probably not IMO, but in this case it was completely appropriate--and you're an idiot for giving OP a merit.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: bones261 on December 15, 2018, 09:58:00 PM
i havenot merit now, but check my history, i havenot problem about join in bounty.

i think you make post becouse you want merits :)

yeah, i want merit to. but i know, for merits, i want make good and helpfull posts. make some good post, helpfull, and trusted newss.

and maby you will got some merits.
If you want to join on signature bounties you need atleast 1 merits to be a Jr.rank member which allows you to wear signature.

P.S:If you really want to have merit then you need to built your English grammar little bit more atleast to level of creating constructive statements.

You can also wear a signature by purchasing a copper membership. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote)


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: SportbetMaster on December 15, 2018, 10:09:21 PM
Bitch shut the fuck up
Best response I've seen all month

what if this response was given from an other forum member; will you have the same attitude than this one?
Probably not IMO, but in this case it was completely appropriate--and you're an idiot for giving OP a merit.

if others member receive merits by treating innocent people by b ***; I don't find any opposition that OP receives one.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: Gvanca24 on December 15, 2018, 10:13:45 PM
i havenot merit now, but check my history, i havenot problem about join in bounty.

i think you make post becouse you want merits :)

yeah, i want merit to. but i know, for merits, i want make good and helpfull posts. make some good post, helpfull, and trusted newss.

and maby you will got some merits.
If you want to join on signature bounties you need atleast 1 merits to be a Jr.rank member which allows you to wear signature.

P.S:If you really want to have merit then you need to built your English grammar little bit more atleast to level of creating constructive statements.

You can also wear a signature by purchasing a copper membership. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote)


yeah, and now BTC is down,  and you can buy with -10-15$, and its good then Jr. member. becouse some bounty have copper member and Member rank - same points :)

and last. why i havenot Copper membership? :D


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: Gvanca24 on December 15, 2018, 10:18:50 PM
Now a days newbies are trying to convince high ranking's people to get at least 1 Merit because they are unable to join bounty/other campaigns. I think some high ranked persons are helping those newbies who don't deserve Merit. Where Merit is not needed, we are seeing that there Merit has been given. Hopefully authority will take action against such kind of people who are using Merit unnecessarily.


and now, you have 1 merit, but you are newbie :) you cant use signature before Jr.Member.
if i got 1 merit, i will Jr.Member.  good luck !


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 15, 2018, 10:22:45 PM
But @yahoo62278 isn't an idiot for giving @pugman 5 merits for a single one line abusive,unhelpful,vulgar comment.
I didn't say that was a good thing, that's you putting words in my mouth.

I bet you if it was the OP who said"Bitch shut the fuck up on another thread',you'll hit the report to moderator button asap,and the post would be thrashed.
Actually I wouldn't report that kind of post to the mods as long as it made sense in the context of the thread.  This is you making assumptions about what I'd do.  What I did say is that OP did not deserve the merit he got for the shitty shitpost he made here, which was an obvious merit-begging attempt, and I stand by that.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: yahoo62278 on December 15, 2018, 10:27:53 PM
and you're an idiot for giving OP a merit.
But @yahoo62278 isn't an idiot for giving @pugman 5 merits for a single one line abusive,unhelpful,vulgar comment.
C'mon to what level can you take your hypocrisy to,jeez,to the extent of even defending what you fucking know is wrong
I bet you if it was the OP who said"Bitch shut the fuck up on another thread',you'll hit the report to moderator button asap,and the post would be thrashed.
You need to listen to yourself sometimes really

I gave 5 merits due to the topic at hand. I thought we were looking for unnecessary uses for our merit haha.

Let's be real for a second. If this was a genuine user with a genuine need for help I wouldn't think the response was hysterical.

This obviously isnt a thread looking for help. It's someone crying about freaking merits once again. A topic that is becoming old really fast.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: Gvanca24 on December 15, 2018, 10:31:01 PM
Bitch shut the fuck up


this is post with 5 merit?
haha, on forum are so many member with normal posts and without merits, and  member - with  Legendary ACC  (cant update rank) have 5 merit with this bullshit?


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: bones261 on December 15, 2018, 10:38:35 PM
Bitch shut the fuck up


this is post with 5 merit?
haha, on forum are so many member with normal posts and without merits, and  member - with  Legendary ACC  (cant update rank) have 5 merit with this bullshit?

It's funny. I would probably have given it merit if I had budgeted my smerits better. Gee whiz, I'm the democrat and I'm supposed to be the PC snowflake/SJW around here.  ::)


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: yahoo62278 on December 15, 2018, 10:39:59 PM
Bitch shut the fuck up


this is post with 5 merit?
haha, on forum are so many member with normal posts and without merits, and  member - with  Legendary ACC  (cant update rank) have 5 merit with this bullshit?
The post made me laugh if you want me to be honest. Again I say if this was a genuine user looking for help then I would find the response not so appropriate.

I'm sorry some of you are having a hard time getting merits and then you see me give away 5 for such a short and demeaning response.

You guys shouldn't be looking to start vs drama over who got merits and who didnt. You will get your merits for your bounty campaigns at some point if you keep trying


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: Gvanca24 on December 15, 2018, 10:41:09 PM
Bitch shut the fuck up


this is post with 5 merit?
haha, on forum are so many member with normal posts and without merits, and  member - with  Legendary ACC  (cant update rank) have 5 merit with this bullshit?

It's funny. I would probably have given it merit if I had budgeted my smerits better. Gee whiz, I'm the democrat and I'm supposed to be the PC snowflake/SJW around here.  ::)


yeah, i can write this to :D but no1 willnot send me merit :(

Bitch shut the fuck up


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: kvipcn on December 15, 2018, 11:25:03 PM
Bitch shut the fuck up
I believe in a decentralized ecosystem everybody is entitle to his/her own opinions but i don't think this is the best way to address someone's statement if you don't agree with them. I'm quiet surprised that a legendary member merited this post with 5 merits, meaning this member support foul languages being  used on this forum. Its quiet sad and pathetic to see such act.  ??? ??? :-\ :-\


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: yahoo62278 on December 15, 2018, 11:32:49 PM
Bitch shut the fuck up
I believe in a decentralized ecosystem everybody is entitle to his/her own opinions but i don't think this is the best way to address someone's statement if you don't agree with them. I'm quiet surprised that a legendary member merited this post with 5 merits, meaning this member support foul languages being  used on this forum. Its quiet sad and pathetic to see such act.  ??? ??? :-\ :-\
yes I'm terrible, let's lynch me. C'mon man wake up


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: suchmoon on December 15, 2018, 11:45:49 PM
Bitch shut the fuck up
I believe in a decentralized ecosystem everybody is entitle to his/her own opinions but i don't think this is the best way to address someone's statement if you don't agree with them. I'm quiet surprised that a legendary member merited this post with 5 merits, meaning this member support foul languages being  used on this forum. Its quiet sad and pathetic to see such act.  ??? ??? :-\ :-\

Context matters. In the context of a whining bitching thread you shouldn't be surprised that some members decide to call it what it is. There is nothing to agree or disagree with, the OP is a shitpost that accidentally leaked into Meta.


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: jackg on December 16, 2018, 01:05:20 AM
Bitch shut the fuck up
I believe in a decentralized ecosystem everybody is entitle to his/her own opinions but i don't think this is the best way to address someone's statement if you don't agree with them. I'm quiet surprised that a legendary member merited this post with 5 merits, meaning this member support foul languages being  used on this forum. Its quiet sad and pathetic to see such act.  ??? ??? :-\ :-\

I think the five merits are uncalled for. I also think the moaning is uncalled for and so I will retract my first statement ;D.

It’s a shame as I’d like to award merit to some newbies but the moaning is just annoying...(obviously if you’re a bounty spammer then I would’ve checked first but I’d like to offload some merits on good contributions to discussion).


Title: Re: Unnecessary uses of Merit!!
Post by: Marina5 on December 16, 2018, 01:58:20 AM
Sorry to all. I know I'm not much good in English. I created my account before Merit system but I was busy with my personal work and I know well what merit is. Really, I wanted to concern people but it was my fault that I created this thread. I have no intention to gain 1 or 2 merit by creating a thread. But you guys who are treating me, thanks to you.