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Could it be possible that Heitler Jesse is Satoshi Nakamoto since he is the one who registered bitcoin.com, one year before the release of the "Bitcoin- A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System" whitepaper (3/01/2009) and 8 months before the creation of the bitcoin.org domain (August 2008) ? Satoshi mentioned he started to work on bitcoin's code mid-2007.

https://i.redd.it/9vnykn8pig621.png
img: ownership of bitcoin.com registered in january 2008

H.J is from the UK and the first block mined includes the following text "The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks" (headline of the Times : UK newspaper). Moreover, the written english used by Satoshi in his posts and writtings is said to have british structure/words. Heitler studied computer science in Yalle University from which he graduated in 1997 and has been working with code since then. He has a very entreprenarial profile.

Besides, Satoshi's contribution and involvement in bitcoin seems to stop in mid-2010 and according to HJ's linkedin profile:

https://i.redd.it/r88oqoj3lg621.png

In April 2011, Nakamoto communicated with a bitcoin contributor, saying that he had "moved on to other things" (Wikipedia)

What is the real relationship between Heitler and bitcoin, if no coincidence?

Best,

Agiravax

Not a chance. Bitcoin.com was first registered in 2000 (https://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/04/22/bitbeat-the-men-who-owned-bitcoin-com/).

What a way to kick off your bitcointalk forum process. Just curious did you open this account for this or have you been here before?  
 That aside the identity of satoshi should not be anyone's major headache excerpt you are a secret agent on a mission.
Bitcoin is there for you to invest or trade,  the market is also there for you to check an do your evaluation, the forum is here for you to assist you when you encounter challenges

kopipe: Does the article give the identity of the first owners of the domain? (I do not have a membership for WSJ and do not plan to).

kingpin4321: I do not consider btc just as a financial tool to eventually make money but mostly as a technological breakthrough.
It is way more fascinating for being what it is than for his intrinsic/market value...
Previous attempts as Hcash (1997) or bitgold (1998) using PoW are also precursors to what is btc and probably have strongly influenced its creation.

If you believe it doesn't matters to know who are the great scientists that have shaped this world, this very own opinion is up to you.
 

There's a lot of people who are eve claiming that they are the real satoshi.
The question is, is that really necessary? Well for me it's not , it would be exciting if satoshi will remain anonymous, besides
his technology is here and it's open source so anyone can benefit on it.

I also think that if he will reveal his name, he will not anymore leave a normal life, that's why he remains to be anonymous,  I guess.

Interesting analysis but I don't think this person is Satoshi. I believe the development of Bitcoin was not done by one person, it was done a group of people.  Please enough with this false speculations, the bitcoin space don't need this kind of speculations.

who the hell is "heitler"

There is a ton of people out there who can write British English & study computer science.


For someone who loves to be anonymous to the core, it's pretty weird to see that "Satoshi" explicitly told his involvement. I'm pretty sure he won't do that. So no, this guy is not Satoshi I believe.

Why are you so interested with Satoshi? So finding him will not give you anything, in the conterary will take your time.
On the other hand even if you find who he is, nobody will not believe you.

Satoshi flitted between US and UK English. It's easily done, mostly just drop or add a few u's in to a few words.

As for Satoshi's true identity, I really do believe it is one of those things we'll never know.


Whoever Satoshi is clearly went to a lot of trouble to conceal they're identity, so while it may matter to you, clearly they think it does not matter.

for me it doesn't need to know who the real satoshi is, let him be a secret forever, the important thing is that we enjoy the technology now it's more than enough than looking for that has no benefit at all.

My point is: Is it pure coincidence that this guy registered bitcoin.com + a company called bitcoin Ltd, officially for the same exact purpose and at the exact same period considering that nobody knew what btc will be back then ? After he and his team failed to raise fundings, he closed the company and moved on to something else, at the same time period than S.N. actually did.

I rose the question because I usually don't really believe in coincidences, and this one is quite particular...

Registered a company? Is there any valid proof that there is a company registered? How come satoshi will register a company for bitcoin whereas it's a p2p payment network that is powered by its users without central entity.

And it's said that satoshi created the site bitcoin.org not the .com domain.

Its true, he wouldn't leave a normal life anymore after it.
It would be interesting to know who he is but I also don't want him to be revealed. Probably if I just knew him, make him prove by signing the message I think its would be enough for me. I can't promise not to reveal him though but I will definitely try not to. :)

He did register the company "Bitcoin Ltd" along with 2 other people but in February 2009 (bitcoin.com in Jan 08):

https://companycheck.co.uk/company/06831070/BITCOIN-LTD/companies-house-data

What a load of crap...

And besides, why are you people even looking at the identity of Sathoshi? He used a nickname for a reason and just let him be. Why does it even matter what his real name is?

Satoshi disowned Bitcoin dot com here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88.msg806#msg806 He sounds a bit defensive with the post. as if to say "we didn't copy Bitcoin from the website"  


I have a feeling he didnt plan to be anonymous.
Anything is possible though.
Sometimes his writing looks like that of a well known person who still use this forum

But I find this company is unrelated to the bitcoin itself if it's not owned by satoshi. And based on the thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88.msg806#msg806) linked above then it's totally different.

I wonder if the purpose of that company is the same with the purpose of the current bitcoin.com as their descendants with ver lmao.

I think some of us here are really interested with the true identity of Satoshi but is it really important that we must know the true identity of the creator of Bitcoin? There are some concepts that are invented and yet, the true creator of that concept didn't find any information about him/her. I think what is important now is Satoshi created a digital currency that can change the monetary system of the whole world :).

Since nobody know who is satoshi yet...

As mentioned in the thread, Heitler describe Bitcoin Ltd's activity on his linkedin profile starting as follow:
"The original concept for bitcoin was to create a more efficient payment system for the web [..]"

In my opinion, many are curious about the identity of Satoshi, but until now there has been no clarity about who Satoshi really is. Many people who want to know more about Satoshi and want to increase knowledge about bitcoin business to be successful like him.

This is nothing but speculations. The real Satoshi I think will either be some companies or government secret service agent. Anyone can try to claim to be the real Satoshi.

While posterity and curiosity will always ensure, at least in our lifetimes, that Satoshi's identity will be raised every now and then, it's a matter of zero consequence by now. It might have been cause for concern in the early days, I think Bitcoin would never have progressed in the direction it has had the person(s) behind it been revealed. But we've all moved beyond Satoshi to a point that his identity, if ever revealed, or his appearance, would do nothing to affect Bitcoin's direction, either in terms of technological progress or market movement.

Maybe that 1 million or so coins could have an impact, but all negligibly swallowed by the passage of time.

There are so many theories about who Satoshi Nakamoto really is, and each one is like the truth. I think that if need be he would show his face.

Why use an alias in the first place if you do not plan to be anonymous? Some part of him must have always knew it would be a potential option. I find it a more interesting question to consider if he's anonymous for his own good or for the good of bitcoin?

People from the internet are already concerned of privacy long before BItcoin existed and Satoshi is just one. There are more of these people here in the forum today, some are just buying paypal accounts and upwork accounts so they can hide identities. If he really wants to reveal himself he can do it but I'm sure he prefer to stay private and unknown. Leave it that way.

Precisely, it was intended all along. I think at this stage, with years behind us of people trying to figure out Satoshi's true identity the only way it will be revealed is if he or she decides to do so. There's clearly no trail which will conclusively lead to a name. The only proof is a signed address.

Bitcoin is so complicated that it can't be made by one person, I think it's done by a group of people, so I'm not sure he's the person (Heitler Jesse)

Great article.

Bitcoin is just a name that make sense. And it was a great opportunity to register the domain .com. I still think incredible as no one has until today found great evidence about who Satashi was. 

Its best for everyone that we never know. I can imagine the mess it would cause to disclose this...

It might have been made by a single person or a group, as Bitcoin is borrowing on previous ideas, but it had to come in a way that couldn't be hampered or destroyed somehow, and he/she/they made it.

As with any good free open source project, it has carried on without the original author. We should be thankful of the spirit of the free open source software community, that had kept this going on and keep improving it for the future of humanity.

On the one hand, it is interesting to find out who it really is! And on the other hand, what a difference! After all, our revenues, our earnings on stock exchanges are important. Why think about the stars? ???

Right, no one can identify Satoshi Nakamoto so mysterious and you need lot's of time to find him and  even you know him now no one can believe you cause many people didn't know who really his and no one can  know if it's group of person or not.

I believe that there are people who know who this Mr. Satoshi is but for obvious reasons they arent coming out.
These people are probably sitting on a small fortune so why take the risk of having to surrender funds or be subjected to criminal charges.
There would be loads of people lining up claiming they were defrauded from Mr. Satoshi.   
If I were him then I would be doing the same thing and to stay out of public.