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Here's what I really don't like about ICOs and why they're dead to me:

1. "After ICO, the token's rate would be $X.XX per coin/token"

Excuse me? Really? Yeah we know the hype, right? Been there already. Most ICOs don't live up to their promise that their rate in exchanges would be that high amount. For example, there's an ICO whose token is worth $0.01 and claims that when it hits exchanges, they will be worth at least $0.20. But hell no!!! The reality is that when it hits exchanges, the rates are way below the ICO price!

So ICOs, don't make promises you can't keep, especially claiming that the amount will be huge when it hits exchanges coz' it mostly likely not gonna happen. Sad reality. Nothing but hype!

2. "We're pausing the campaign until further notice"

What kind of f***ing excuse is that? I know most of their fucking delay strategies just to let their community think that they should trust them no matter what. They keep motivating them on Telegram, Facebook, Twitter or so, but in the end, they would silently abandon their project without announcing to the public. Worst of all, they're taking the investors' money away and hide in their private luxurious islands, yachts or so. Bear market? Naaahhh not a valid excuse you morons! You're just using that term to your advantage just to make the community believe in you until you silently run away with our hard-earned funds!

3. "We're focusing on the project's development before we hit exchanges."

Sorry to say that the truth is that they're doing that because of not having enough money to list in exchanges. Whaaaaaat? I can say that it's one of the worst, worst, worst, worst, worst excuses that ICOs are addressing their respective communities. F*** there are some exchanges that are free to get listed such as IDEX, MetaMorph Pro or so, and you can't even have time for the token to get listed? I don't have a f***ing problem when it comes to project development. However, just don't say that you can't get listed in an exchange which is fucking easy on the free ones.

4. "Tokens will be locked for a certain period of time to avoid mass dumping."

For me, this is not fucking true at all. Even if you do that, the market would still be dumping. I've experienced that with a couple of tokens (Seal and Gamestars). As I remembered, Seal locked our tokens for 6 months to avoid dumping. However, after 6 months, when they unlocked it, the price already dumped too hard. The same thing with Gamestars, in which they're giving tokens to bounty hunters batch by batch for like every 3-4 days. The sad reality is that this strategy is old and won't work anymore.

I don't know if you guys felt the same way like I do towards s***ty ICOs! Therefore, I can say that ICOs are a thing in the past. I would root for STOs this time, because they're regulated.

All these examples are just excuses for new projects that could not raise enough money. but I think some projects have true statements.

I would not say dead but definitely it is very slow nowadays and i will put the blame to some scammers and also the overall bearish market from so many months, people are not  making money from this market so they are not investing in new icos but we have to see the things in larger prospective there are always slow times and fast times in almost every business so definitely we are going to see business back on track for crypto markets as well we should stay positive and take this bearish phase as slow business and wait for recovery.

I think it differs from situation to situation, granted many of the ico's are scams but there are some legit ones that don't over promise and stay true to the game. But it's hard to tell which ones are for real and which ones are scam, it would be nice to have a 3rd party who could give a sort of insurance on our investments into ico's it would bring in more safety to investors (but I have no idea how the 3rd party insurer will do that)

i know, all of these sucks, but i think the worst part is when, after the end of the ico, even if softcap was reached, the team disappear and no one can know anything else about how the project is going..

I come to the same conclusion. Although I have not been here for a long time, I already see many problems. The first open problem. I see people leaving this forum. Why do they leave him? Because ICO No longer makes a profit for both investors and the hunter. I think this is the last year of the industry.

And at the end of story the transparency should become the main concern, but they are thinking if they listing their coin this time and then their token will be easily get dumped.
They are taking the market trend seriously.

I don't think ICOs will as profitable as way back in 2017 when Cryptos boomed almost all the ICOs then hit Hard Cap and Soft Cap and I belief the overall market conditions now (bearish) has taken its toll on the ICOs market however the tone might change if there is turn around of the market (bullish) else when any token is listed on an exchange its value will remain worthless and almost a fail project.

I think their are still good ICO's that has great Concept, I think in the coming  ETH hard fork and Update it will change the market again

I think that ICO's projects from the past years were more profitable and really helped the investors to raise money, now i've seen that it's very hard to find ICO projects that are good enough to raise back the money you invested in the project.Besides that there are a lot of scams and people are becoming more and more mediocre and stop the project right in the middle of it.

yes totally agree with every word you said, people are just blinded by hope of ICO's. they like the fairy tale rather than reality, the dream of landing on the next BTC seems too good to be true, ah maybe im just too skeptical but better safe than sorry.

ICOs in 2017 are not comparable to those held in 2018. In 2017 it was enough to say a bold statement like "we build a fast browser with CC-integration" and money got thrown at. Nowadays, only true project with a real purpose are capable of reaching their softcap, mostly because of private investors and not due to the ICO to be honest.

Believe me, there are very few such projects. All that is described above is true in 95% of cases, unfortunately. These are the current realities of the ICO market. This is the end.

Icos looking like dead i must agree. Maybe stos can turn the table or crowdfunding with crypto can be a thing from the future.

We will see in future.

This is true.  Now everything is exactly what is happening, but nevertheless it is impossible to say that all ICOs make promises and do not keep them, this is not so!

I actually feel the same way you do to these kind of ICO!  Why don't they just be honest and bring back the money of their investors but they still chooses the dark path and fool everyone around them. Shame on these kind of people.

that's the reason we meet most often, they try to convince all participants that their ico is fine but not all of them, for example when their tokens have not entered the market or exchangers, there are some who say they focus on developing projects and that is true because in addition to developing projects they are also waiting for the right time to register their tokens on the market, especially when the bear market is so many developers who deliberately delay the entry of their tokens on the market

at the moment yes they are dead but trust my experience if investors return to the market everything will come to life again

1. I never believe any promises about the price of coins from project team. And It seems these project are scam or become scam after months.

2. This is a trick to trap investor's money in their project or even scam bounty hunters. I joined some bounty campaigns like that.

3. Hmm. I think this is not a bad move. But it seems to be bad with bounty hunters  :D

4. This often applies for bonus coins, includes bounty rewards. I think this is not bad too.

this is no longer a secret. many people have said that ICO is no longer a place to make a profit. whatever the way you invest in the ICO project in the end you won't get anything.

this is not the wrong project but because investors are tired of all the fraud problems that exist in the ICO.

Sure, I also believe that the ICO is really dead and no one dares to invest in ICO again. ICO according to my review is a scam. In 2019, perhaps STO will be a much safer way of raising capital

You have a point, But I think ICO's is not dead and it needs to be regulated in order to be great again! Because the scammers are using ICO's for their own sake and people the investors is robbed that easy as you think because of this Shady ICO's that hide in Anonymity thats why it needs to be regulated for the sake of the crypto-community.

dead, it doesn't seem right. because currently there are still many projects running ico to collect funding. this sees only all setbacks, there are times when something is popular and there are times when they are dim. it's only a matter of time until ico returns to popular.

Yes, I thought ICO was dead in October, and too many projects were similar to the new technical ICO. And this has caused a large number of investors to leave the ICO. In the future, only regulation can change ICO.

almost everything you explain, I also experienced it.
but I am not really sure that ICO will die, because there are also ICO that succeed and get large exchange places, even if only a small part, of the many ICOs that exist.
because the market is very bearish so it is difficult to get investors for now, but when the market has switched bull run maybe ICO will return to what happened in 2017.

Unfortunately a lot of ICO are still running, and there are still more coming, but I have not yet to see STO or participating one I would love to see STO and see if this is the one thing we need to replace bad ICO in the market, everything that can get the crowdfunding right again, we need to support it.

Main reason for the decrease of  token price is the  dumping of bounty tokens . There is no use in holding or locking the bounty tokens for 6 months or one year. Once the tokens are released, definitely bounty hunters will dump it in any exchange. To avoid that situation, in my opinion , bounty hunters should be paid in eth. By doing this, there wont be any dumping of ico tokens.

I admit that the ICO market is gradually losing investors due to the increase in scams. I believe that if the ICO market is still not effectively regulated or improved in 2019, the ICO market and activities will face death.

You are right, I sometimes don’t understand some of the actions of the project teams, much less see how they can help the project!

The excuses given by some project in selling or returning investors fund may be legit. The cryptocurrency market is bearish and value can be easily eroded regardless of the quality if any project. So, it is better to postpone than having a failed project because of the market condition.

My opinion about the death of the ICO is most likely negative. I think that now many investors have begun to thoroughly understand what to invest in. Today, projects do not collect anything, but there is a reason for this, because most of the projects are scam projects.

That's right, investors see that the market is easily manipulated and now the market is at the bottom, so very few people decide to invest their money in any project, it is better to wait a moment and then buy tokens for a penny on the exchange.

Actually you pointed out a lot in this post. Some team members do not really understand that updates, good listing, good strategies like buy back policy are important for a healthy Token price. Imagine a team delaying listing for a long time, forcing investors to trade first at very low prices on say forkdelta, even when the tokens hit exchange, price dips like crazy. Well, some projects have outstanding team with good strategies. Also, I'll recommend that projects in future should pay airdrop and bounty hunters in a stable coin like USDT, and not their official token, it will go a long way to reduce dumping.

Yes you are telling the truth, it is very bad bad big true! After ICO's finishes and goes to the exchanges, you can buy the projects coin with price of 1/10 . So why would we invest in ICO's?? If they can't handle this situation the ICO's wouldn't survive.

When the market is bleeding, investors are afraid of risking their money, that is normal.
Also, some project were able to raise their targeted amount but when it hits in the exchange, price will dump, it's normal again.
You cannot expect a positive result in the bloody market, so it's better for them to postpone a bit or relax and wait until the market will start to recover.

I know it feels, and I also always see that words for every ICO that fails, and  I agree with you ICO is dead right now, but I still hope that this year there will be some good and better ICOs
I am as a bounty hunter has wasted a lot of time due to joining fail ICOs :(

Current situation on the market regarding ICOs looks really bad. It's like an ice age of ICOs. There are dozens of hundreds ICOs around that don't even get to exchanges after the money rising. So much scams, bounties don't execute their obligations. I hope that the age of STOs will be the game changer.

Every time I visit those ICO rating websites, I no longer see any unique and potential ICO. Their website and team members were a trash where they were unable to show their faces on a video about the project. Unfortunately, most ICO nowadays are dead and that will be a bad news for us hunters. Even they reached the softcap, they either pause or extend the bounty or even not continuing the ICO and decided to refund the investors.

There are couple of problems with that statement. First of all in order to say ICOs are dead we need to assume there are no more people investing into that kind of stuff but even at the late stage of 2018 there was a lot of ICOs that are getting funded, maybe not as much as the late 2017 era but they were at least fully funded which is all they need. November was a big month with 330 of them published and 400 million collected in total.

People think bitcointalk is the only place these companies focus on and when they don't see it they think they are gone but ICOs are smarter now and getting funding from even companies at this stage. While yes last year around this time ICOs collected about 2 billion dollars a month it has dropped to about 300 million dollars instead, it is still very much going on.

And for the fraud ones, yes some of them are really frauds but do not mistake the incompetently run bankrupt ones with fraud ones, they are vastly different.

Perhaps the ICO is standing on the brink of death, because there are so many scam ICOs. Many development teams are only interested in filling their pockets, they neglect investors and products.

ICO's will thrive again in the next bull run

2018 was a bad year for the market in general and for ICO in particular. Hopefully in 2019 there will be more investors come back and the market will recover.

I agree, before any shit, I collected money. Now they are collecting only truly worthy projects.

That is the reality, bubble burts. People realize that there are no free money and that not every coin could go to the moon, now they are more careful with the investment. Less money for ICOs, less progress.

I am afraid that we soon loose the opportunity to join bounty campaigns. As soon as ICOs will become unpopular and investors will stop investing into this asset.
I hope that bull run will come soon and everything will change.

Ico is not dead , quanitity ico very reduce on bear market, probably when market will be grow ico also be active.

All these excuses are because of the unsuccessful ICOs in most cases. They simply don't get funds according to their plans and that's why token price is also below crowdsale price after hitting exchanges. Let's hope 2019 brings positive changes to the Crypto market.

ICOs won't die, they have the firepower to live, and yes it is frustrating when ICOs PAUSE or even just make this an excuse on getting away with their participants' profits, I see a lot of ICOs do this kind of scheme but not all, there are ICOs out there that can be reliable and trusted, and because of this I don't think that ICOs will die.

Almost all the ICO of nowadays go below their ICO when launched in the exchange. There is nothing appoint other than this. Investors are alway track by this.

Nothing will loss to people who want to start an ICO, if they won't raise money then would be alright with them.
The risk are on investors, but these people with brilliant idea will not give up on the market, they will still run an ICO regardless of the outcome and if investors are smart, they will see the potential of the project being launch, and they will invest.

We may have a declining no. of ICO but this will change soon.

There is one way how to fight with it! Buy back tokens by ICO creators with money they raised. They will buy coins from those people who not believe in the project and it will cause another price growth (FOMO effect).

Not every ICO is fake or dead. Only 1% of the IOCs are not as much as perfect and emerging project that could sustain longer so, these ICO become demand less hence the coin go dead or not in use. If you go dated back to the three years back Ethereum came by this route of ICO and see today what the demand for this coin and everyday the trading volume is increasing. In the last bull of 2017 the ETH price was touched more than $3000. So, now the bear market is running hence the after finish of ICO the market situation is reflected in the particular coin. So, do not loose faith upon the ICOs.

only investors alone ? What about bounty hunters ? They also loose here because most of the times they are not being paid by an ico or a bounty campaign .

Ico arent also declining or dying but actually there are more growing and multiplying despite the scammings and market condition .  they didnt care for these factors because they think only about the profit . if they fool some inoscent people  to join their club  .We must need a new rule on this forum in regards to ico and bounty start ups .  so that we can somehow minimize the risks  .

How can investors return to investing in ICO if there are too many scams. Of course it cannot happen, if there is a rule that can protect investors' interests, it is likely that it will help the market ico recover.

All of this negativity about ICOs are just the effects of the downfall of the crypto market. Yeah I knew some were performing good during the bearish but they were waiting for market recovery before get on exchanges. I'm still optimistic that this bad market will end this year and those ICOs will be back on track to fulfill their projects in cryptocurrency.

ICOs are not dead. The down market last year only helped us to realized that opportunists take advantage of huge money involve in ICOs are not good. Year 2018 helped us to filter the list and continuing to reject those nos-sense projects.

That's right, not all ICO are fake. There are some which offer their project to have a real usage and has a real working platforms. We just not generalize ICO as scam or fake so that people will not think of it as dead.

I agree that these excuses makes me disappoint, but not all ICO's are dead I believe that there are some ICOs are good hopefully this year will be more good ICOs.

But, this forum is the major platform for most of the crypto related stuff and no once could ignore that. When ICOs are not gaining good reputation from here then I believe they might be ruining their future on themselves. As per many people's opinion, ICOs are no more preferred method for multiplying your money.

But, we cannot differentiate them by where the actual problem and what causes them to get failed. From a common investors, all are same just because they did not keep their words up. That's all.

I believe that ICO is not dead, just people have learned to distinguish Scams from a good project. If the project is strong and interesting, it will be invested and it will bring profit when listing. The problem is that 80% of the ICO initially SCAM.

It is a very bad thing to know, but unfortunately, it is true. Well, we can see how the price of ICOs after in the market always drops drastically. We can say that most of ICOs are collapsing after on the market. However, some good ICOs will be able to survive and then after one or two years at least, they can grow and increase for better price.

Yes, things today with ICO are not as good as we would like, but still today there are really cool opportunities to start working on destroying scam projects. I think this is a big deal, but here you need to motivate people to do it.

ico is not dead yet, there are projects that are worth paying attention to, and many people have begun to better recognize scammers

Yes, these are all developer tricks. When I see such excuses, I forget about such projects forever. They have no chance. At the moment, half of the projects from TOP-100 do not have a normal useful product for society. The time of hype is still not over. This is a wild market.

I found this topic interesting yet I don't agree on some statements.
For #1, once a project promises that their token would price at a certain amount upon listing, then that should be your sign not to inveat on it because it is always not true. If you fall on this trap, then you also have a fault on it.
For #2,  I also hate it.
For #3, There may be free exchanges but hat we mostly need are good exchange like binance which, as far as I know, has a high liating fee too. It doesn't also help if you just list it anywhere where the listing fee is free but the volume is too low.
For #4, it also doesn't make sense to me. It is still the same thing. After unlocking, everyone will then  dump and much worse when it happens during a bera market

I couldn't agree more, the reason you listed about you don't like ICOS is what I think. In my opinion, the rhetoric (excuses) of these ICO teams is simply a bunch of shit, and now these excuses are outdated.
For STO, it is not common now. I can't say for sure whether this will be better than ICO. At least STO is regulated by law, but you have to believe that any law will still have loopholes and may be used by STO scammer.

Maybe STO is a bit better than ICO, there will be laws to join and protect participants. I have not seen any projects that are actually using STO to raise capital, it is too vague and difficult to use STO

I almost feel bad for people losing their time in this. In today's world it is so easy to manipulate people.
It happened too many times.
But indeed ICOs are almost dead, good news.

Just look at the number of pages daily on this forum, it has decreased since the start of year 2018. Less and less people fall for these fishy ICOs.

ICO is still a good thing to run and can give you good thing. However, it is when compared to the previous time then ICO first more visible both from at the moment. of course, this does not also loose-leaf current ICO from gets worse because of a lot of scams. In addition, the quality of the project there is pretty bad and there are only a few that felt good to follow.

I am now interested to ask, why do we need additional tokens on the market now? Is it possible that everyone lacks such a quantity that there is for choosing. Yes, and most of them are just clones and do not carry any innovations, so you need to reduce the investment in them.

I don't think ICO is dead because I personally can still get a good ICO project until now. And it's just that with the decline in Bitcoin prices it has a tremendous impact on Altcoin. Many ICOs failed and ICO coins did not immediately enter the exchange market. In choosing ICO you must be smart and careful.

This idea I think depends on whether the crypto market is good or bad will affect the ICOS campaign. This happened in 2018 some of the campaigns became unsuccessful. Because they have a lot of money, they still get over difficulty when the crypto become bad. I hope the ICOS campaign will be good in 2019.

for me, icos are not quite dead, but close to it. i also know the excuses from the list and have heard them already. but there are still some good projects that do what they promise.

I have been a bounty hunter for almost 2 years. What you said above is absolutely right. I participated in a 5-month project and had to wait another 3 months for calculating and distributing rewards. But in the end they still lacked payment. Its value is thousands of times lower than the price of ICOs. (From $ 1 to $ 0.00x). I wasted 8 months to receive nothing.  :'(

I agree all your points, that's not important the project success raised funds or not, all of the lost a lot of value from their ICO price, most of them said that current focus on project development and token price will increase later. But when my investment funds from $3000 become $30, did they know our feeling? I don't think ICO are dead, but we need to find out potential project to gain profit.

I guess you are ranting because you haven't  made a lot from ico. No doubt we've had scam ICOs, still legit ICOs came through. The hype Has only gone down but you can't really declare them dead.  

To see the truth, yeah, it is happening. Unfortunately, we can find many ICOs are failed and dead during 2018. They cannot reach its softcap, they cannot maintain their price on the market and then down  and very dropped, they cannot control how the coins will be in the future. But, I'm sure that there are also still many ICOs that are legit, with the great team, maintain to make their coins survive.

Legitimate ICOs are hurt by reputation ICOs, and many legitimate ICOs have failed to raise capital, which makes me feel most sorry for them in 2018. In 2019 I think There will still be new ICOs to appear, but they will not receive interest from the community

Failure of ICOs to reach their set targets is not only down to the project not being good enough, but also for the fact that good project or bad a lot of investors are noobs and don't understand the a lot of tech talk.
So most investors just wants to wait  out the bad market condition since they can still buy into the coin when the market is better.

I agree now, many investors are watching each other and see that many do not invest , I think when Ethereum and bitcoin will go up and the ico market will also go

That is true for the fact that capital mobilization is difficult from the public in the past year. Now a truly quality project will have to target large VC, where they can seek funding for themselves.

Decreasing market prices certainly affects all ICO developments. It is true that the point you mentioned is because some ICOs failed and ICO was only a fraud. And of course, when we get it it's very disappointed that the work we do is very bad. But in 2019 I think there will be more good projects.

not the least of which is the rate that the ICO was bad, dying, risky and others. one thing I know is, ICO is a test a test of patience, because it required a little extra patience, even to wait come sold in the market with a good price. still many are involved in ICO.

well mostly ICO do that, i say mostly since not all ICO was a scam. and keep their words to bounty participant and investor.
When you file paperwork with any authority, you are removing your decentralization. The authority has control over everything you doas an individual. It has to be done in line with the laws and rules of that country.
This means that, as well as passing over all of your information, you are also allowing the governing body to get information on all of your participants, whom will then be subject to taxes, laws, rules and controls of that country. It kind of removes the spirit of true decentralization, doesn’t it?

Some ICOs are really trying their best to maintain their project in a good way even though the market is at its worst. We can't really blame them every time.

Yep there is big problem with ICO es but dont think ICO es are DEAD but we havent so much ICO as before and it has its own reasons 1.Many scamers leaved us which is good, 2.2017 was somthing like Hype as everyone started ICO even didnt know what is that,so i think 2018 was one of baddest but from other side it was good as more profs. joined and scamers leaved.

yes I also think so, the thing that I am most worried about when that happens is because I have experienced it like that. but what else should I do, only luck can get a good ICO when the market is down.

I agree with all your points. They are very valid and are the regular excuses we, the bounty hunters, has to face. The project when making these statements means that they are abandoning the project.

In any case, if the team does not abandon the idea of ​​developing their project, then this should not alarm the participants. In any case, one way or another there will be results. Although, in the current state of the cryptocurrency market, a lot of time has to be expected for a positive result.

It is true that most of the ICO in 2018 was failed. There are many reasons behind it. The most important reason is the price fallen of crypto. Because of decreasing the price of crypto, people lose their encourage to invest in crypto and that is why most of the ICO are unsuccessful. But  I don't think ICOs are dead. Because if the crypto market starts to increase again then people will surely invest in ICOs.

They are not dead. Due to the market situation it is getting almost impossible to collect good money in this industry, because people are holding their coins. As soon as the market recovers, we would see another bullish trend.

I think ICO isn't dead, it's just that it's not profitable anymore. we have to admit, ico is still the best way to raise funds from the crypto community. many quality projects that are running ico. but because of the many problems that occur at ICO, no one has noticed this.

please do not bother wasting money on any new ICO's
fucking garbage.

it became not beneficial only to bad projects. good projects still collect a large amount of money during the sales

All things have two opposing characteristics that are bad and good, ICO is a place where project projects have different objectives in terms of products or managers who determine their quality. Most people participate in projects that fail or cheat and we don't get rewarded after work or loss.
There are many factors that drive a failed project, we must be careful and hopefully this will build their mindset to be more serious in building the project.

The ICO is not dead.  If you have the mindset that put closure to ICO investing,  I will bet you will miss out on very good project that has lots of potential to be successfully funded and possibly get to create great value for investors!

Most investors are not in a better situation right now. All their investments have fallen in price and they cannot afford to invest in new projects because they have little money left.

Dear, you just revealed the bitter truth of ICOs! I have stopped investing in ICOs since Monetoken ICO, just promoting projects by doing their bounty campaign! Almost every ICOs are garbage now, they are just showing fake millions of the raised bar to attract investors! Your all of points are right in my view but there have some good ICOs too. So, I would not say ICO is totally dead!

But the real problem is identifying the very good projects. Instead of struggling with scams, I am also thinking many times just to stay away from contributing for ICOs. Because, that would be an easier way to solve lot of hassles. Instead of spending and then settling with ICOs, I believe many people will choose to stay away from ICOs if there is no regulation will be conducted.

I mean to say this community must go for an initiative to regulate ICOs so that we can have healthy environment where god projects will be finding right investors and it will make beneficial for both the parties.

I support your opinion. Until there is an ICO regulation, investors will not invest in projects. The situation recurs, as was the case with Internet projects in 2000, everything is spiraling. Scams ICO and scammers will leave this market in the near future.

All the reasons that you applied are bad advertisement for ICOs generally. I know that this kind of things are happening and people lose their faith, are not willing to be part of it. There are good, legit projects, but in the sea of all the ICOs, you can never be sure. If there is no support of the community, there is no project at all. We will see what future carries...

too much fraud in ico, normal if many think ico is dead. but we have to see that there are still many quality new projects. so there is no harm in investing in one project that has potential in the future.

at the moment they are really dead but I do not think that a similar situation will be exactly the same in the future

some icos still alive and are also halfway successful. even if there are only a few. icos may die out in 2019, but they still live... more or less. still a pity to see how the icos comes to an end...  :(

With ICO projects really going on a complete mess. Therefore, they do not collect a soft Cup, because case is not a bear market, and that investors do not want to be deceived. But despite all this, I believe that there are still conscientious projects and these problems with the ICO can be solved in the future.

This is right as I agree with OP. Many ICO's this days like about their Softcap as well as hardcap. They couldn't raise the prospose money and hence they lie about it to either look for a cheaper exchange. They do this to keep Investors and Bounty participants hope alive. I know of some many projects who claim to have raise $55 million and can't afford to list in even IDEX till date all we keep hearing is the f**king project developments for over 4 Months now.

I think you're right that ICO is dead. First, the popularity of cryptocurrency has fallen. Secondly, investors try to invest more competently. But I believe that good projects will launch.

dead is not but that trusts against ico are now down. so it's a possibility indeed now people avoid investing in ico because they have suffered a lot of big losses

It is true that many projects do this, a lot of fraud. But I think that we will still see many interesting and useful projects that have high-quality development.

I see this year 2019 as a real test for ICO projects. If they can succeed this year despite all the criticisms, them we may have them around for more years in the crypto space.

All the arguments that the author of this topic leads certainly deserve a lot of attention, but in fact I think that ICO as a way to promote projects is a fairly optimal option and it is the most acceptable and inexpensive for new projects, therefore this method will again be actively used when the bitcoin again will up to 12-15,000.

I believe it will because nothing will change in this market, people come and go and that's it.
When bitcoin rises to that level, FOMO will again go inside their head and once correction again happen, they'll start blaming.

You nailed it! Those points you drop are for shit projects that couldn't raise the softcap not to talk of hardcap so thongs will surely go wrong ,ICOs are not dead yet ,only bad projects gets trampled on

Ico isn't dead yet, in my opinion ico is still in 2018, yesterday ico is in a bad condition, but certainly not always like that, in this new year, hopefully there will be improvements for ico to develop better and hopefully the team involved in ico is really a professional person

Other than that the ICO projects were being replaced by STO (Security Token Offerings). Basing on a post somewhere I have read that the American government registered STO projects to avoid getting fraud and scam projects. This will ensure security on the investors money after investing in a project. This is better than ICO for sure.

If it is said to be dead, I don't agree. All you have to say is that there is some truth, but let's look at it all, regardless of the situation of the falling crypto market. Some ICOs are indeed fraudulent, some other ICOs are seriously built by the developer but external conditions cannot be released

it really sad if we said ico dead only by looking cryptocurrency price.most un-educate investors to easy said this, in my opinion they didnt prepare their self with knowledge.so when market crashing they trying to blamed market.

No ICO where can promise at the time. many of the existing ICO thus contains a scam and also the crypto is not worth even satisfying. Thus it is natural if it is precisely the time for many have the opinion that ICO dead because it felt right when it was not able to give satisfactory results.

Unfortunately i can only agree, because icos are really dead.
I can hardly find a good project on the market.
Icos will certainly get the death shock in 2019.  >:(

The tokens just have a lockup period which is only applicable to investors and not bounty participants, though, that might not be enough reason to say that ICOS are dead in some ways, there's still some ICO's that is achieving success.

I think the ICO is not dead. just find a decent to follow ICO is not an easy thing to do. many of the ICO fails arose and this certainly makes investors becoming increasingly bosa. plus the price is not in accordance with the wishes of the early also makes the result of ICO for the worse and felt like it already does not have hope again.

decided to invest in ico projects really bad decision.all of us already know how dangerous investing in  ico, we've seen investors scammed by fake developers team or maybe they ico coin/token worthless when selling in market.but it doesnt mean ico was dead.maybe the correct word just lack of investors.

In my opinion ICO market still high demand because some ICO successfully raised alot of fund  above soft cap target. The team of the project should have program how to protect their investor like offer refund program or buy back program. Investor need more secure and safety when make invest in ICO. ICO market should have regulation to attrack new more investor and to avoid fraud.

I doubt how true are those projects who raised big amount even during the red market. I am thinking some of them are just manipulating the sales to attract investors.

it would be better if it was already in the market even though the exchange rate was low. all the tokens that I hold right now have not been pointed at the market exchanger, it will be more tiring because it's almost 1 year. but this year ico will be back on track, believe me.

It is totally dead after the people or investors has gone mad with so many projects that are scam. As we all know that it was being tag that 80-90% of the ICO project were scam. It is better for the ICO to be dead than letting other users or investoes getting scam. Anyway, STO will going to replace ICO. This is way better because it is a security token offering where it will be regulated or registered in a certain government for adaptation to its users.

I fully agree with and and would like to take this opportunity to advise all friends here that they should be very watchful of the ICOs they partake in of late. most of this projects of late are organized by some hungry guys who are always in search of quick money from crypto noobs.

It is difficult not to agree with your arguments, it is necessary to score on investments in ICO for a long time, at least until there is a certain cardinal turn in terms of security for investors

We can agree that those type of situation is familiar within the majority of cryptocurrencies project.  That kind of behavior is a bit smell like scam potential. ICO investment is indeed an effective way to collect fund for the company. But Cryttocurrencies project mostly is created in the spirit of scam, they all make a utopian scenario, and has no real life value.

How many times can you ask the same question? You can't see the topic you had open previously? No one can tell you exactly this information because no one is sure how the cryptocurrency market will develop this year. I am sure that the bounty program will evolve and will not remain in the old structure.

Too many more talks comes from project teams these days. They start coming up with stories after investors must have put their Fiat into the project, thats not so cool.

I have encountered all of those excuses before but the one that really bothers me is number three since the developers of a coin in which I invested applied that strategy for over a year and no one could move their coins for that time because there was simply not a single exchange where we could trade our coins so if you ever see that excuse sell your coins and be happy with whatever you can get out of them.

I strongly disagree with you. I hope that ICO will now really rise in demand, because it is a process that is created by nature itself. This is crowdfunding. Therefore, this process as a whole needs a little refinement.

No wonder, no one believes in the success of ICO anymore, this is a result of the fact that a huge amount of investment was lost in the depths of unsuccessful and fraudulent ICO projects. This is extremely sad, because it is this money that should move the market forward.

There are projects that are truly masking impacts and succeeding in the crypto space. That some or that you have seen lots of ICOs fail, does not mean that every other ICO will follow suit. I think you need to see how successful Hetachain is. The coin listing is not going to be delayed and developments are ongoing. So everything is set to set the ball rolling on exchange.
Some of these coins from ICO will be on their own platform. That is, different blockchain.

I think it is no secret to anyone. Too many problems now on the markets. So the ICO theme is dying. And looking at the market, it is clear that the cryptocurrency is completely on the verge of disappearing. Thousands of projects that do not go anywhere. Constant feed.

This things happen most of the time. I don't even understand why some are even pushing the idea that their ICOs are doing great when in fact they even hardly meet the soft cap. So with these scenario they would often say the things mentioned by the OP. It wad really hard for the bounty hunters like us. Hope things will change for the better.

The situations you mentioned, or what you call "excuses", are simply ways to survive the bear market. I think that if the project is good and the dev team develops it as planned and according to promises, then the price should be defended by itself, so any delays are unnecessary.
I think all these "excuses" are simply prophylactic in order to protect the project.

The number of posts on this forum has really decreased noticeably, and in the few ICO bounty campaigns there are also very few signatories to join the campaign. Only a few, as a rule, short and promising ICO projects gather many participants. Yes, now it has become unprofitable to work as a headhunter. Only those who still have enough time are still working. Many members of this forum just have a rest, using the difficult position in the cryptocurrency market and ICO. However, I do not think that ICO projects have died. The situation will change for the better, then good ICO projects will appear, and a significant part of the participants of this forum will return.

This is not always the same for every ICO. There are just some unique ones that re ready to deliver. They are ready to solve real time and real world problems. Some of them are already being implemented, which shows to us that that we still have hope of some good ICOs.
I will not nullify the fact that there are more scam ICOs, but it is now left those those who are interested in ICO to ensure they do their research before investing.

for now I also do not blame if there are people who do not trust ICO anymore but I do not think it will last forever because if ICO has started to improve, people will come back to trust to invest in ICO.
but unfortunately, somehow that will really happen where ICO can be very trusted.

I think we may have seen the last of ICOs, it does take a lot currently for any ICO to raise as much as $1m. People have become uninterested coupled with the free fall market, it remains to be seen what STOs will bring.

I have not watched the video for a long time. The fact that the big exchanges have problems with listing tokens. Because no one wants to pay for placement on normal exchanges. And this leads to the fact that investors in the totals lose their money. Yes, I think ICO is living out the last year.

although the conditions are like this but I don't think that ico will die, I'm sure no one is ready for that as well as investors, everyone likes crypto and ico is crypto so I'm sure that there will be parties who will make solutions to all these problems and now I'm waiting for that solution and I hope it's not long

All of your statement was true and correct, it is obviously that they didn't raise enough fund for their project. And yet the worst things happen was they will extend their bounty campaign but they never give any additional budget for it. But they extend the task requirements but the rewards is not which I think too unfair for their participants.

No they not. But now it's much hareder to choose the correct one. You have to investigate a lot about a team, history of a project. A lot of different things. But there are good at market. The best example for me is Huobi Russia. They have team with a big expirience. They have a supprot from Huobi Global. It's means a lot. So who search will always find a good one.

Even so, in fact there are several tokens that succeed listing in large exchange places and their token exchange volume is rises. I think the listing in exchange is about the cost problem, because if the problem is smooth everything can happen, the exchange maybe will think about it.

if ico is dead then why are there still many new projects that do ico. we might think ico is over because we see a lot of projects that failed in ico's time. but what about quality projects, even they can still get hardcap.

in my opinion, ico is currently only experiencing a difficult time, due to fraud problems, falling markets and regulations. if these problems can be resolved, I'm sure ICO will be one of the best places to collect funding.

There is no reason to run a public ICO during this bear market, investors are not interested in buying tokens that have unknown future, but that does not mean we will not see new ICOs. When the market turns around, we will see a lot of ICOs and STOs. With more regulation, I think future ICOs will be serious and committed to deliver their promises.

Indeed, the variety of different token sales methods drive us all crazy. Some methods are not even moral, so we should stay away.

In my opinion listing an ICO token in the exchange - IDEX it's not such a bad thing. Look how much volume have got some tokens, even if you don't know anything about the project you can find it by IDEX listing.

We are experiencing many issues related to ICO processes. I totally agree with your ideas. Almost all ICOs fail and investors are unhappy. I wish that would change  :-\

1. Ever thought about why the token prices collapse like that? It is not the ICO investors who sell at a loss, it's most of the time because of Bounty Hunters who dump their coins at a fraction of the ICO price ...

2. Yup that sucks, but it tells me that the team itself isn't even convinced that they're collecting the targeted funds. Here I agree with you, I also think that the current market situation is no excuse.

3. Why should I as an investor want the coin to be listed on an exchange as soon as possible? Or why should the team pay millions to be listed on an Exchange? The only thing that counts for me as an investor is development. If you are a bounty participant and want to dump your coins it looks of course a llittle different  ;)

4. So you say "as soon as they unlocked the tokens, the price dumped". Maybe you can already see a certain pattern.  ;)

So what I'm trying to say is: Maybe the Bounty participants shouldn't dump the coins immediately.

Or even better: Bounty participants should only be paid in BTC or ETH.

During last months i saw just few ICO projects that reached softcap. And even less - projects that made all payments and hit exchanges. ICO industry looks so sad.

now it is very difficult to find a really good ico but that does not mean that ico is dead, only dying because if he dies it will not be able to live and grow again but if only dying then the ico can still rise
why am I sure that ico is just dying? because when the crypto value rises again, there will be many successful ico, because there are many bad ico because the crypto value drops so many ico cannot get their sales target even when they have sold a lot of coins because the coins they sell are very cheap they want to sell ico coins at high prices when the market is bearish

I think the ICO age will end soon. But I can't say it has ended yet. Market conditions are very bad. We couldn't expect them to show any improvement in this environment.

The examples you mentioned above are very correct in this downtrend market, because the ETH and BTC prices are quite low so they don't have the cost of maintaining the project, and also because many people have lost confidence in crypto. But not all are dead. There are still successful projects even in the downtrend, its price is still several times with ICO price, but the problem it takes time.

This is why we need ICOs to be regulated. I have faced all the mentioned situations plus some ICOs after collecting the funds
decide not to pay the hunters at all or pay them half a year later than they were supposed to pay.

I felt indeed current ICO does not mean anything. any results from crypto could not even speak a lot on the market. There are no longer enough where innovative ICO and could give encouraging results. many may be initiated to hold results of crypto ICO that they did in the hope it will get better. but in the long run also even not necessarily it's going uphill or could be quite inferior to other new ICO and the increasingly tight market competition.

That's correct, regulation will solve a lot of problems and one good thing it will make is it will attract the investors again because investors
are confident they will not be scam anymore as there is a law that will protect them. At this current situation, the government are still in the process of crafting a good law on ICO and I hope they will release it soon.

Indeed, many ICOs have failed so that the OP says the ICO is dead, and indeed a sluggish market cannot give hope to any ICO. ICO needs a hard struggle to succeed and get a more trendy market. Hoping ICO will return to exist and potentially.

Been involved with a lot of projects that hit the rocks along the way. Painful indeed it usually was but I think usually understand with them because if money is not raised how do you sustain a project

I don't understand ICOs anymore ,I can see is always about the money ,funds,if you select a ICO to invest in you have to start worrying ad praying they meet there softcap and hardcap ,that's the only way they can stay around ,this is so wrong I think security tokens will be better

Only few project are good at the present time, its because there are so many scammers doing their fake project to earn money and that`s the reason why new project now is worthless and not enough for our handwork.

ICO has indeed lost a lot of investor confidence so that by 2018 many ICO have failed and fraud projects have also increased. However, when entering 2019 this new hope arises. Because market conditions are also starting to rise and I'm sure by 2019 there will be more changes.

At present, crypto's condition seems sluggish but for ICO it will certainly be more varied, but there is still a scam. By researching well, this year's ICO began to develop and stayed in choosing projects that were more worthy of value.

ICO's are not dead! This sphere is just being transformed at the moment. The hype is gone and that is awesome! All the scam is leaving the market now but true projects appear and develop. You just need to know how to choose good ICO in order not to lose your funds. There are lots of such projects, just open your eyes and turn on the brain.

At the current market, really very rare ICOs have courage to launch their tokens, almost every successful token which launched this past year, 2018, down to at least 10 or 20 times at current. Not all ICOs are dead, but can say yest 90% are dead or scammed.

ICO is not dead but underperforming I will say,many of them don't count the cost before coming up.I think it is high time developers and teams begin to count the cost before running and ICO.

The past 9 months have been really diffucult for ICO's but I know of 2 projects that ran in the summer and autumn that I am really comfortable having taken part with as they are backing real world products. SHR from ShareRing and WOLLO from Pigzbe. In general it makes sense for any companies contemplating launching funding to pause until market conditions improve.

Yes, this makes the surrounding mission market embarrassing. STO can't change the market, and now the IEO started in Korea may change the entire ICO market. If the financing cannot go smoothly, the cryptocurrency bull market will not come.

there are so many ico tokens that enter the market but not all are good and it won't affect ico to grow again, so in my opinion ico won't die and continue to grow in the future, even on the cmc site there are many new tokens that appear and still exist until now too. even though it has no value.

Those lists showing the evidence that most of ICO's currently failed and i think they only can't says the truth that they have failed and indeed i have to says ICO's almost be dead and everyday we are see there are large number of ICO's cannot reach hardcap or even soft cap

yes ,I agree your point .ICO's are going to dead this is the time Security token offering i mean STO . This year according to my prediction lot STO project will lunch .I hope this will make some huge changes in crypto industry .

I agree with you on some points. The last year was not so easy for the crypto currencies market as well as for ICOs. But if you investigate the project, you still have a chance to get profit even on the falling market, you just need to make a deep research of every project/coin.

Hopefully the ico market will change into something positive and will not die completely, but as in 2018, hopefully it will not continue. Although i am hoping for a positive development, i am afraid that ico could completely die in 2019.

Man, don't be so sad about ICOs. I have a belief that after certain period of time there might be a rebounce! We just need growth in market cap and situation will go to the better! Even now there are some good ICOs like bittorrent and lto

 I think not dead, but soon will be.STOs are the new players in the ground. The main in the ICO market is the transparency between the investors and the project.The investors will look their benefit in the project but if they dont get that , there will be no response in the future.

And that's why we still support bounty of the projects. Yes we can say some projects are scam but please do not generalize the whole market and projects as it becomes FUD in the perspective of an investors to avoid ICOS.

I think ICO is not dead, maybe it is just a strategy for the one who rule the network. Ico is a big investment so it is not easy for ICO to be down. There are lots of investors, there are projects are good. Maybe you can say that ICO is dead because there are some investors are get into scams. For me ICO is not dead, it is alive.

Unfortunately, I've heard these excuses many times. Almost all ICOs are dumping at the listing in this bearish market... but  among them, there are also good projects that I think will recover in the future.

Rather, the bounty of the company is dead, and ICO is still feeling okay and alive, but at the end. This year, most likely, all ICO will be transformed.

On my own side, I perceived greatness in the cryptocurrency market his year, the beginning right be bearish though but greatness will show up at last.

All the excuses you listed does not in anyway confirm your dead claim for ICO. Such excuses has always been and would continue to be. It is common in projects that are not viable and run by weak and perhaps insincere team.

It sounds heavy but I think so too. Feel like every year there will be a new trend.

now and bounty campaigns are also starting to appear. since the beginning of this year, several promising bounty has already appeared

I agree with you. But even at the end of 2018, it was possible to find a lot of good bounty campaigns which was collected very large soft cap. I personally took part in one campaign and I already received tokens for the signature campaign

This is because people are tired of the numerous scams and fake projects in this industry. Every Tom, dick and Harry just wants to float an ICO offering basically nothing but looking to swindle money from unsuspecting investors. At the end of the day, investors enrich some dubious people who cunningly get hold of their investments and disappear. This has been seen in this industry lately and we are at a crossroad. Everyone is beginning to get wiser now.

yes in ourdays the number of ico is reduced dramatically and this is good due ti the lack of regulation in the space but in the near future we will see a real increase of the number of sto

Truth be told, since the last quarter of last year, ICOs have lost the buzz leading to a massive loss of interest from investors. This has been made possible as a result of the continuous fall in prices and the bearish nature of the crypto market. Everyone is scared of losing money since it is almost certain that once project is done with its ico and tokens get listed, there is always an epic dump in ICO prices. Nobody likes losing and this is evident in the withdrawal of investors from ICOs.

Agree with you on all the points especially on the first one.
That is really ridiculous when the ICO gives price promises in pre - sale, before the coin get listed on the exchanges and than we have situations that after listing the coin drops 95% and nobody is taking responsibility for it.
Therefore the market is the only place which will determine the price.

In 2018, most projects did not produce the desired result. I am fully confident that this is due to the general decline in the cryptocurrency market. But I believe in growth, which means I believe in the ICO industry.

for now, yes, but suspended animation. which means that whenever it can rise again, it's like a snow princess who slept for a long time before finally being awakened by the prince. ico is the same, this time when the crypto market rises to the moon, ico will also wake up.

A lot of scam projects are live at the moment, but if you would check them, you would not say that they are completely dead. There are still some awesome projects left on the market, you just need to search better.

Of course, we can say that the market for ICO projects is dead, and the factors indicated in this topic are quite relevant. But I believe that this is not the end of the era of crypto-currencies and projects, and when this cycle ends, the trend will change - crypto-currencies will again attract the attention of many investors.

True, if the ICO continues to go in this direction, then soon they will simply die. It's time to solve this problem and try to regulate this process. I think that in the future, certain rules will be introduced for projects, so that if not to remove completely, then at least to minimize the number of scams among ICO.

of all the opinions on this thread all are very true, the opinions that I hate are numbers 1 & 3, usually the projects that do it mostly end up unclear and many ends up being failed projects

Yes. I totally agree. Although ICO's were able to sell thousands of coins and earn millions, it is more likely to be a scam than legit. Unfortunately for me, I have a lot of ICO's last year and lost a lot of money. I only have 10% success rate on ICO's as I have been scammed multiple times. I have learned a lesson and will not join any for now. I am focusing on trading established coins.

The crypto-currency space is an all comers affair, no restrictions no regulation, that openness has contributed immensely to the dearth of hood projects. Most of available icos are thrash with no use case backing their concept. I think this space need done regulation and control to weed out meaningless icos

In such a form as now they are certainly dead and for me too, I do not see any sense to risk much with investments, the future of the ICO is extremely muddy

Yup that is totally right,though there are many ICOs in which turns into scamming,some didn’t even hit a softcap that pushes them to Stop or Pause the project still there some who is continuing and trying their best to progress.
So what i am seeing here is that these percentages will soon comes to success,but ofcourse we need to support and help them spread the word

So far, ICON are not dead, they are still working and I am sure that some projects will be of real use!

You did take effort in researching about the negative impact of the ICO phenomenon in 2017! Indeed there are a lot of ICO that were scams that just vanish because of their bad intention in taking advantage to people who are new in the cryptocurrency. I hope you create more topics that will give more know how on the new cryptocurrency enthusiast.

last year ico died, but this year ico will rise from his death and will be more tough and fly high. if last year there were no paid ico, this year it's time for all ico to be paid a high rating.

i hope that what you say will really happen this year, indeed i am a little pessimistic because until now there is still no good development from ico.

but i will wait, hopefully this year ico will develop better than the previous year and also i really hope the ico scam project will be destroyed this year.

Yeah STOs going to be the next big thing for sure. But current ICOs can also gain huge Profits if they can survive till the next rally of Bitcoin. STOs will bring traditionals Investors into the Crypto market which is really good.

Most ico founder don't even know what blockchain is all about.from your conclusion you are obviously right. Even when they raise funds from their ico they don't know  what to do with. They keep on complaining about market is not stable. The market is not stable , unknowning to that the instability and fluctuation of the market is where long and short crypto traders make their profit from . Until there is regulations on ico there will be trust on investing in ico , although there are few genuine project but because of the rate of scam ico most investors are scared .

ICO projects are going through a very difficult time, but they are not dead. While the cryptocurrency market is in long-term stagnation, ICO projects will also experience great difficulties. However, they have not yet exhausted themselves. The market will recover, ICO projects will also grow. Now there is a very big problem with the level of fraud in ICO projects, but this problem is temporary. It can be eliminated by government regulation.

Reasons you said are about scam ICOs and you got to stay away from it, most legit ICOs don't do these things.

you are right. some people affected by the ICO were scam, saying that the ICO would die. well, but right, maybe people like that are better off staying away from ICO, because there are still many ICOs who are really serious about running the project. this certainly can be an anxiety for people who want to join a good ICO.

I think what you say does not suggest that Crypto is dead. indeed was in a bad condition but slowly it will begin to improve when back there is momentum from crypto to escalate. from the results of a low current ICO will be able to be sweet if you want to hold it for some time.

Almost! We still have very very little good ICO that can survive in this time. Looking for a good ICO now be like treating gold in sand, seems impossible to find a good ICO, but if we look carefully. we will find one, or more.

Most of those are happening because of the current market status. In a market like this, a dump can easily make a project dead. For example, talk about Vena, I think it's a good project and they have locked the coin for 3 months after listing. Now if they distribute now and bounty hunters dump, project will be dead.

Scam has become a common phenomenon in ICOS. If only a few projects are scams, then we will continue to believe in ICO, but now ICO is almost equal to scam, so people can no longer believe ICO, ICO can be considered dead.

The present situation of the market does not denote or connote that ICOs  are dead. This is a general situation of the market and it does not exempt ICOs.
All coins listed have plunged, so there is every possibility that a newly listed coin will also drop in price when listed. So, to avoid unnecessary or extreme dump, the project might want to pause, until it has attained am acceptable developmental stage.

I can only say one thing. Do not participate in ICO if you have so much negativity to new projects.
There have always been projects that caused losses or deceived their investors. Now there are more of them. This makes us take a more responsible approach to choosing a new project. Or even refuse to invest in new projects.

market sentiment was very bad in present time.we have to understand about it, most of investors prefer to hold their asset in fiat than crypto.maybe they quit from market to find best moment buying coins or investing in ico.

 Yes recently there have been lots of such notifications about projects with their excuses but still not all projects are dead there are still genuine projects but we have to take our time to look out for them thanks

I agree with you. Everything you wrote is the reality of our daily life. Cheating and empty promises are already fed up. The fact of the matter is that ICO is a very young and as yet insufficiently adjustable instrument. Thus, at the moment there is a huge market and investment potential, as well as a place for non-professionals and fraudsters.

i don't think ICO is dead. some ICOs have succeeded , In the field of services and utilities. i think ICO will still live. In the real world, many real companies will enter the ICO market. they will make the ICO develop soundly.

ICO is going through a difficult period. But this is not a reason to think that everything is so hopeless for them. It is fair to say that those projects that did not fail will gain an advantage over the rest.

Yes, many people suffered big losses from an investment in the ICO. I think this industry is indeed in decline now.

Yes and yes
Everybody knows that ICO are dead but I will also say that, when a good ICO will come and pass us by, nobody will know.