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Title: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: jeromix on January 24, 2019, 10:05:49 AM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: IlVeroNico on January 24, 2019, 10:14:26 AM
You didn't even give links to check, how is people supposed to give you an answer?


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: shirackjs on January 24, 2019, 10:14:43 AM
It is hard to tell whether the project is scam by reading your post. Listing in an exchange take time, I believe 3 months is still alright. In this bear market, many projects are wary to list coins in exchanges since most coins depreciate in values.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: joniboini on January 24, 2019, 10:19:46 AM
On another perspective, I think it's a good strategy. You know what happens when there's no product and you list your token on the market? Straight dump. Instead of demanding to list on exchange asap, you should demand them to work on their product and see the progress. There's no need to rush listing on any exchange when the demand for the token is nonexistent. On top of that, I believe some people will eventually cry when they see the price fell really hard because of dumpers.

I can name a few if you want: Arround, XBASE, Essentia, etc.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: bitcoinst on January 24, 2019, 10:30:55 AM
If the project has really collected the stated amount of funds, then I guess you should not worry. Entering the current market will necessarily be accompanied by a fall in the price of the token, which means this will affect the finances of the project. However, you did not give any additional information in order to be able to answer in more detail.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: lifesgood10 on January 24, 2019, 10:33:39 AM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

alot of projects are refraining from listing on exchanges in this bearish condition of the market, so if you want us to help check if the project is functional, you can provide their website link, or telegram link.

Then chat up the admins, after verifying their roadmap.
we cannot help you by just reading your  comments, so give a link soon


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: beehimneff on January 24, 2019, 10:39:17 AM
It is difficult to say for sure, we can only assume. Perhaps the team is telling the truth and the token is slowly being prepared for the bear market. But it is possible that the project team blatantly lying and just stalling.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: semobo on January 24, 2019, 10:48:40 AM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.
When a project not listed on exchanges for long term doesn't mean they were scammers if they are keep developing their project and keep updating to the investors.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: therhslv on January 24, 2019, 10:52:34 AM
Usually what i do is just check Etherscan with the project token name and check how many holders they got . Even sometimes check the holders wallets , if there is some tokens in wallet allong with Ethereum then its possible thats the investor . If there is just project tokens you was searching for and no history in wallet , then probably thats a trick to attract investors by telling they are close to hardcap and that you got few hours to invest =] First thing to do is check contract adress , how many ETH they collected . If they trying to hide contract adress , then probably its fishy project :)


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Alluro on January 24, 2019, 11:00:40 AM
With the market condition, some ICOs take a long time to list on exchanges. We cannot get an idea about that ICO is a scam or not with it. You have to check out the team is legit or not before invest that ICO. You can check out future updates about that project and ask about exchange listing from the team.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Mr.grin on January 24, 2019, 11:17:26 AM
I think that would be a scam if it didn't match their whitepaper. however, if it is one of the roadmaps they make, it is normal. sometimes they develop the project first, and do various kinds of tests before putting it in the market so that everyone who has the token feels the function of the tokens they have. but if this has been for months, I think you should suspect it and keep monitoring the project.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: herfianto on January 24, 2019, 11:20:32 AM
If you can, which ICO project do you mean?
maybe that is the strategy of the ICO project itself. Doing a listing is currently very risky for a project, their prices will dump quickly depend current market situation .


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: JuggSlash on January 24, 2019, 11:31:30 AM
I can expect if they were on the period where they cannot take a risk of dump on their tokens once they hit an exchange. Most probably they were submitting to exchange once crypto goin' to a bullish pattern.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: raidarksword on January 24, 2019, 12:07:59 PM
Maybe it's best to provide more info about the project you have mentioned in your post so that everyone can decide whether it's scam or not. Having reached the hardcap in a project was already an achievement and you should be proud because you are part of that success.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: darkangel on January 24, 2019, 12:11:00 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.
Definitely. Since October 2018 I have participated in a few bounties of some projects, They have completed and reach hardcap from $ 30-40 million but until now they are still silent and not listed at any wherever, all become scam


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: judeafante on January 24, 2019, 12:21:03 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

You should not protect their reputation because they are not doing the right thing of listing their coins in the market, so investors can see and trade right away this is one of the reasons why investors are losing interest because of too long waiting to get it in the market.
I hope you can edit your post and name the ICO.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: moynul2050 on January 24, 2019, 12:21:13 PM
do not rush to determine a decision and even accuse the project of being a scam project. maybe their roadmap has determined the time for their coins to be listed on an exchanger, or maybe the exchanger hasn't approved the coin listing on their exchanger. therefore it would be better if you gather information and evidence about the clarity of the project.
via telegram group, ANN, bounty Manager or their other social media accounts to support your suspicion.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: baigreen on January 24, 2019, 12:50:45 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

I think I know what project is being discussed. But let's look from the other side. Now the market is very bad. And no one wants to take part in it. All projects are pulled with the exchange. It is a fact. Everyone wants to make a profit. If they come to the market now and do not give a price to them, there will also be many questions. I think this is not a scam. Just a strategy.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: caffu chino on January 24, 2019, 12:55:10 PM
not all projects that don't have a market are scams. want each development team to have their own ways to make the project grow. some are more focused on developing and some want to market their tokens.

as long as the project does have a good progress in the development phase, I don't think it's a problem for the tokens they have the market or not. at present many projects are directly listing their tokens but the price is destroyed. maybe that is one of the considerations, why is the team not too focused on listing tokens.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: billy.ryoko on January 24, 2019, 01:09:08 PM
Due to the highest listing now in the exchange, it is normal if the ICO finished only 3 month, if you have any question, better to join their official telegram and ask about the question.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: tamango on January 24, 2019, 01:12:02 PM
What is that project? can you give us link so that we can check too?
No listing does not automatically means scam but it's strange that a project with hardcap reached of 50m is not listed anywhere...


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Stervyatnik on January 24, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
It depends on the project.  Now a lot of projects do not list their tokens to the stock exchange due to what is happening on the market now!


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: SaRmY on January 24, 2019, 03:02:15 PM
Well, I think they are trying to give the price of a coin. If the project has a prototype, then when entering the stock exchange, the price of the token can grow. I also think that no one wants to enter the bear market. Perhaps they do not want to discourage investors with a low price of a token. Therefore, waiting for the market to become stable.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: CTO@MyBitMine on January 24, 2019, 03:05:55 PM
It depends from many factors dude, about what exactly ICO are you talking about? I've already met ICO's whin reached hardcap and not listen just coz they not planned it. You should read whitepaper one more time and ask team about it.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: salad daging on January 24, 2019, 03:11:49 PM
sometimes we really have to want to wait and leave everything to the project team because not all of them just give promises, there are some teams that provide evidence only they need time to prove it because not everything goes according to what they schedule therefore sometimes we have to be patient when there is a delay or when there is a delay for example is the entry of their coins on the exchange


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: pundit on January 24, 2019, 03:19:31 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

I do not think its s a scam if team is working hard to develop the product, organizing events etc. Listing on an exchange does make the project successful always, some good projects need time to finalize their launch as there are many hit and trail before launching real product in the maket. Just wait for its launch, some time even team is not able to answer the query of participants/investors in such scenario due to their busy schedule.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Altcoinboss on January 24, 2019, 03:21:20 PM
As for me I cannot say not listing on exchange 3 month after ICO is a scam. I have different altcoins that reached their hard cap since last year and they are not scam because they do update investors via telagram groups on the stage of their various projects.

So I will advice you to join their telegram to get the latest information about the project.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: joromz1226 on January 24, 2019, 03:54:41 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

What project are you talking about? We don't have any clear answer, it is because there's no link which is supposed to be have here, so that we can give our assessment to your statement. But since that there is no link, this means your stories was remain just as hearsay or gossip only, sorry mate no offense.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: masterrex on January 24, 2019, 03:58:08 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.
I think i was able to guess? that so called project that sold all its token during the crowdsale and reaching its hardcap $50 Million Dollars. I frequently visiting in there telegram chat and yes its true that they are not listing yet its token on any exchange! only (*DEX for now) because of the following reason. Working and focus on the development of the platform. and working on regulation about the platform liscence, 3 months is not that long to complain. its the best strategy to create demand and utilization. for me thats a wise move. Its a sports Betting Platform if my guess was right. Its a sports related plaftform thats why its very promising since sports are here to stay.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: #Darren on January 24, 2019, 03:58:43 PM
It is not a scam and I have faced a lot of projects that have collected their hard cap during 2018 and are still not live on exchanges. They are just waiting for the better market conditions to launch their tokens.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: nreal on January 24, 2019, 04:07:53 PM
I'm not sure if the project you mentioned is a Scam project, but for now, there are a few projects that are inflating the money they raise.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Geenstijl on January 24, 2019, 04:36:40 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

Most probably all their decisions based on the current state of the market. Currently almost any project that's being listed at exchange experiences a huge dump and falls much lower than ICO price. But we should understand that the probability of scam is very high anyway.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: @Hakermania@ on January 24, 2019, 04:50:55 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

If a project does not list its coin (immediately or in the immediate future) it does not imply that it is scam .. this correlation does not exist. There are ICOs who have listed their coin after several months as for example in the case of IOTA.
Are other the alarm bells of a scam project.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: mlsbd on January 24, 2019, 05:01:55 PM
Now we can't detect to this project SCAM for exchange listing issue. If team promised will be reach exchange within 3 months, just wait and see until their time frame. In the bearing market a lot of project development disagree to listing because they worried about perfect value.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: rosezionjohn on January 24, 2019, 05:17:20 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

They probably learned from the past ICOs. Maybe they just do not want the tokens to get dumped after being listed. My question to you is, have you not known this even before you joined the campaign? Was the period of exchange listing not in their roadmap?


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: levyashin on January 24, 2019, 05:20:38 PM
It can be a scam or legit.

I think you need to say which one is it for us to make better guessing.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Cyptobonds1 on January 24, 2019, 05:41:28 PM
They might have seen some amount of money but might not be urge to that extent so don't be move by the sold out price, most this project are just being so dramatic sometimes they just post those prices to convince people to buy their coin


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: dakiller on January 24, 2019, 05:47:43 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.
Take a little more clear, buddy.
Looks like you're talking about DARCMATTER ico?


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: LordShanken on January 24, 2019, 05:48:09 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

The market situation is very bad, and practically all tokens that are listed on the exchange now lose their value, so their explanation is true.
However, without a more detailed analysis of the project, we are not able to say whether the project is fake or not.
You do not accuse anyone, you only ask for a project analysis. Give us the name and then we'll be able to check it more closely.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: dakiller on January 24, 2019, 05:49:54 PM
Now we can't detect to this project SCAM for exchange listing issue. If team promised will be reach exchange within 3 months, just wait and see until their time frame. In the bearing market a lot of project development disagree to listing because they worried about perfect value.
Yes.
To be honest, investors certainly do not want the bad results when list exchange at this time.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: lapyshka on January 24, 2019, 05:51:32 PM
I can not say whether the project is fraud. I believe that 3 months is not a long time.   Many projects are afraid to place their coins on the stock exchanges. In this difficult time you need to wait a little


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: AristoteI on January 24, 2019, 05:53:03 PM
A project that has collected 50,000,000 over the past few months ??? Do you think that I will believe that this can be a reality? Most likely these are numbers that have no relation to reality. This is a fraudulent scheme, the purpose of which is to create the illusion that you are dealing with a successful project. In fact, of course it is not.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: target on January 24, 2019, 06:00:57 PM

$50M is huge. Some projects today can't even collect $5M, its either the project concept is really good or the marketing involves celebs.

If they have 50M USD, it would make sense if they list it right a head so those token sold are going to be bought back by the team at a cheaper price. Every team right now with an advisor that will analyze the bear market will eventually come up with a solution to buy back the tokens being sold for the team's profit. If they do have $50M and didn't thought of how economics works they might not have worse advisor.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: jt byte on January 24, 2019, 06:04:40 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.
You didnīt specify the name of the project. If they raised 50 million dollars, then it should be really revolutionary blockchain project, maybe they are going to invest their money somewhere else and not in listing. Do you know how much does it cost? A lot!


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Aleksandra Gurskaya on January 24, 2019, 06:06:40 PM
It is difficult to understand what project you are talking about, and accordingly it is difficult to make a conclusion about it. But in fact, many projects having collected large sums do not go to the stock exchange, they wait several months or a year. I understand that now is a difficult time, but it is very difficult to wait ...


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: mickey_miner on January 24, 2019, 07:21:24 PM
Considering the current state of the market, it is very reasonable not to list the project on the stock exchange, because the price will collapse dramatically - this is not beneficial for anyone.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: disconnectme on January 24, 2019, 07:38:06 PM
I don't know if you understand how the market works, Filecoin, Blockstack and some few projects raised more than $50 million and some even more than $100 million and are yet to be listed on exchanges, there are several reasons they have not, some because of regulations and want to have a working products instead of people speculating on a tokens with no use-case and some because of the market trend which might impact the price, a good example of this is GoNetwork which raised $50 million in their ICO and have less than $2 million in Marketcap now. Patience is Key here.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: kindbtc on January 24, 2019, 07:41:14 PM
Atleast provide the name of the project without telling the details how can you ask for the opinion of the others, i think due to such confusions and accusations ico market is on the decline and the way out is properly registered and licensed stos.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: letyouearn on January 24, 2019, 07:42:51 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

Well, this can be truth, many teams are waiting with listings now. They are afraid that their token price would be dumped because the market phase is not very bullish lately :) Delaying listings now is normal I think.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Stradivarioos on January 24, 2019, 08:56:37 PM
I think that now it is very difficult to achieve such an indicator in the ICO and either this is a very good project, or these figures were simply drawn, so I tend to think that this is a Scam.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Absolutep on January 24, 2019, 08:58:19 PM
Since you claimed that the project sponsor something big room recently, then it may not be a scam,it takes time list on exchange in bear market because of the fear of dump.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: PuertoLibre on January 24, 2019, 09:01:29 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.
I also have tokens of such projects that bought during pre-ico. They mainlt blame market conditions for not applying to known exchanges so they look for exhcanges which have small volume. Liquidity is big problem at small exchanges especially i can consider buyer side of trades. Sellers are listing their offer to lowest points but buyers are not still interested with this offer due to unknown exchange. Scam is not case here.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: khufuking on January 24, 2019, 09:09:29 PM
You have to name the project you are talking about, I joined a project in 2017 and they claim that they raised $175M and they did distribute the tokens just 3 months ago and until this moment they are not listed in any exchange but that is only because they are developing their own one and they have a real partnership so I really doubt that they are a scam. Not getting listed in this market condition might be a wise move and it does not mean that they are a scam, there is a lot of other factors to look into before start pointing fingers and shout scam you really need to provide more information or provide the project name to allow us to find this information ourselves if you want a valid opinion.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: qwerty1337 on January 24, 2019, 09:16:39 PM
The project should devote as much time as possible to its platform, make a quality product, and then bring it to the exchange. I am familiar with the cases where the developers said they collected 5-10 million, but in the end it turned out that this is not true.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: invincible49 on January 25, 2019, 05:41:55 PM
Many projects have launched with large initial gains only to fail. Others start shit and only shine later. In this market, a bad start is almost guaranteed unless you get some great publicity somehow. Since you have not mentioned the name of the respective ICO project's name then it is not question about the price of their token, it is more of a question of whether they mentioned that there wouldn't be any exchange listing for this longer. If they said it during the ICO then investors are inclined to accept this issue rather accusing it as scam.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Sanford on January 25, 2019, 05:59:08 PM
 ;D It does not matter how much the project has assembled. Here is an example.

 Neluns Scam.
 Stole guys $ 135 M.  Began to sell their coins on the fraudulent exchange. To steal even more. They also asked the bountists to pay for transactions. Also stole about $ 1000. I think no matter what project. If he does not follow the roadmap. Do not communicate with investors, this is a scam.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: cryptolord2077 on January 25, 2019, 06:06:17 PM
I agree that this is suspicious, because having such a number of funds at your disposal, you can hold several listings on large stock exchanges, which may well give rise to a coin growth.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Bonwin on January 25, 2019, 07:17:32 PM
I think you need to ask the team questions of this nature on theor social media handle, such as telegram if the have one. Just as them politely, without being rude and i believe the will give you the appropriate answer.
So do not conclude yet, until you are able to confirm from them.
I have seen similar projects like that, that are still genuine.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Mr.Spreadthehamster on January 26, 2019, 09:34:35 PM
It is fair to say that 3 months is not the limit even for an experienced team at the bear market stage. Despite the lack of sufficient demand for a token, the company does not need to hurry with the listing. It is important that they inform investors about all this.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: jupppo on January 26, 2019, 10:11:58 PM
Do you know for sure that they have raised 50 million? Or it's just a number from their website? I think that if the project has raised these funds for real, you need to wait some time and they will make listing of their token.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Eildosa on January 26, 2019, 10:20:26 PM
Of course it is difficult to judge the project, because you have given little information about it. But the fact that the team does not list tokens to the exchange does not mean that the project Scam. After all, this is not the main thing that shows the success of the project. The main thing is for the team to work on their platform. This is the main indicator. Also, many are waiting for the market to recover, because it is difficult to keep a good price for the coin in such a market.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: youdacapt on January 26, 2019, 10:48:06 PM
I want to know what the project is so we can monitor together but read everything for the reputation of the project, so I can only analyze what you say, of course we cannot judge projects with scam projects, maybe developers and teams want good conditions when their coins enter the market, even if they see the results they get, it's very easy for them to place their tokens on a large market, but can only token listings attract investors on the market? maybe just waiting a few months or just asking important questions to the developer if they answer well then just wait.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Perfect35 on January 27, 2019, 12:05:56 AM
I think you are not yet sure of what is happening to the project.
You can just make your findings as regards the latest or the stand point of things.
The amount realised is very huge and it might be expected of them to speed up things, but a delay that is beyond their control may likely be the problem.
Contact them and confirm before labelling them as scam.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: converting on January 27, 2019, 12:28:00 AM
No links, no names, no nothing but they "claim" to have raised 50 million from ICO. This is like "How to get scammed 101"


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: sherenikaw on January 27, 2019, 12:58:08 AM
If the team has announced that it reached hardcap, it is one of the good news for you.
But then, to ensure that it is not scam, you must be active in the telegram group too monitor whether the team is still active and controlling or not. Additionally, sometimes, some ICO will list their coins after several months or until waiting for the better market condition. There is no need for a worthy project born in this bearish market and then will have the down price after listing. Just monitor the news in their social media or telegram.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: aryaadikariyansyahsuwarto on January 27, 2019, 01:07:31 AM
it is one of the many fraudsters here, they always make convincing statements, even though they always deny it, you should not be too hopeful there, it will make you disappointed.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Nasonn on January 27, 2019, 01:12:39 AM
Sadly it is one of the most absurd strategies being employed by many ICOs, many claim that the market is down and they're focused on developing the project than listing on an exchange. It's really bad of such projects.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: SamboNZ on January 27, 2019, 07:28:11 AM
It's really hard to tell whether it's a scam or not, projects are waiting for bullrun or a good market in order to survive this market. I'm also waiting for my bounty to be given and to be available in exchanges. I'm almost waiting for a year now though.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: ccsang on January 27, 2019, 10:48:07 AM
I think you should let us know that project name, let us easy to told that it's a scam project or not, Example neluns project claims that they raised more than 100M, but how about now, check the scam accusations thread then you will know that what's going on, we can't fully trust the project owner, for other project maybe current not a best time listed on exchange, so just keep watching their project development update.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: bitcoin31 on January 27, 2019, 11:28:35 AM
You can wait more months before that if there still no progress you or maybe you should wait atleast 1 year maximum . Listing coin or token in the exchanges site have progress and you need to wait. But until now we cannot know if the project is scam or legit. Maybe you will be patient for that. 50 million collected funds is very big and if will be listed it will have good price for sure but let see what happen.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: mrkavasaki on January 27, 2019, 11:55:23 AM
Do you know for sure that they have raised 50 million? Or it's just a number from their website? I think that if the project has raised these funds for real, you need to wait some time and they will make listing of their token.

Now that projects get investment from private investment funds, they don't receive that money through the blockchain. So I find it quite difficult to determine whether they have a scam or not based on listing exchange after raising $ 50 million


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Malamok101 on January 27, 2019, 11:59:53 AM
Well, this moves of a project will depend's on Roadmap also and see the outcome of the ICO but patiently those ICO that reach their hardcap and softcap will list on good exchanges and CMC.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on January 27, 2019, 12:00:59 PM
Do you know for sure that they have raised 50 million? Or it's just a number from their website? I think that if the project has raised these funds for real, you need to wait some time and they will make listing of their token.

Now that projects get investment from private investment funds, they don't receive that money through the blockchain. So I find it quite difficult to determine whether they have a scam or not based on listing exchange after raising $ 50 million
That means if this project can't be trusted at all. in fact, these projects are lack of transparency and i think that we must need to put our main concern in this way. In fact that you must see about the fact that not so many people are able to get the information regarding private sales and this is not good at all.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: jaywizzy on January 27, 2019, 12:14:49 PM
No one can tell if the project is scan, I think that three month is not much for project to be listening on exchange. All you have to do is to do more findings on the project and exercise patient for that three month.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: LUGHUL on January 27, 2019, 12:16:09 PM
Yes, some ICOs are more focused on their projects and not exchange. But that does not mean they will not register their tokens to exchange, they only need time after their project is finished. And they think of listing their tokens in the best exchange.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: tranthiky on January 27, 2019, 12:29:03 PM
You need to read their roadmap. You will see when they will have a plan listed in an exchange. If the project does not go on schedule, it will have some explanation for everyone. We cannot say that they are scams because their projects are still active. Please wait


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: vujackie on January 27, 2019, 12:32:07 PM
i got another ico its NLS nelus same problem there


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: chriseasan on January 27, 2019, 12:47:37 PM
They are just waiting for a great point to enter the market. It would not make any sense to go live on exchanges on current market conditions, because the price would fall hard. Wait for the better market and they will get listed asap.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: perla on January 27, 2019, 12:52:12 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.
This problem is what everyone should aware. Not by project that not success in their sale, but project that already success but not really profited for investor like this. In other hand, we as investor must know that if we already put a money in someone, we can't do nothing about it. Actually it is bad if some project not listed their tokens in market after ICO.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: ceetoo224 on January 27, 2019, 01:36:40 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

Why there's too many people here just reacting like Scam projects are those that are not yet listed on their respective exchange? Does the market do not give them hint about the situation? Please put yourself first to their situation in order to know why they are still not listed.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: shadowdio on January 27, 2019, 02:18:38 PM
really? they claimed that they reached 50 million hard cap with this condition of the market? I think it could be scam, but try to wait some more time keep updated with their telegram.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: LordShanken on January 28, 2019, 02:57:05 PM
really? they claimed that they reached 50 million hard cap with this condition of the market? I think it could be scam, but try to wait some more time keep updated with their telegram.

Currently, the market situation is very bad, but OP did not say when the ICO was taking place. If the token sale was in Q4 2017, it is very likely that the amount of $ 50M was collected.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: killerfrost on January 28, 2019, 03:29:16 PM
Maybe they are waiting for the good market to be able to list their tokens better. I've seen a lot of projects waiting for better market to public sale or listing exchanges. It is best to wait and regularly check their activities during this period


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: harrypotpot on January 28, 2019, 04:36:45 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

Not I guess, if they did not really list their token for almost a year. That I can say that they are scam but with 4 months and less, still their reason is acceptable for the bear market situation.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Ferris419 on January 28, 2019, 05:50:21 PM
It is hard to tell whether the project is scam by reading your post. Listing in an exchange take time, I believe 3 months is still alright. In this bear market, many projects are wary to list coins in exchanges since most coins depreciate in values.

Yes, but is any project get 50 Million USD then he should list any exchange at list within one month is better. But as only for the listing matter we can not say for a scam. Scam project team members are so lazy and they think always negative. Also, they do not work properly on social sites.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: ataki on January 28, 2019, 08:32:11 PM
There is not much sense to list a token without a working platform. It has sense to develop the product first ( functionality) and then list it on exchanges. I think you are talking about Bitgoals project. They did not raised $55 million, they sold 55 million tokens. The final price was $1 but in pre-sale the price was $0.5 and the ICO has finished half a year ago. They are suspicious as the progress of the development is very slow and they do not care too much for their investors and community.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: el_lobo on January 28, 2019, 08:44:46 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.
It could be a scam, but it does not necessarily have to be one.
Since the crypto market is currently not looking good, devs might not want the listing on an exchange right now.
It is really hard to guess if we have so little information about it.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Hivalley on January 28, 2019, 08:53:35 PM
Anything could be possible scam or else. I know a project, ICO completed Q2 2018 but still doesn't listed exchange and waiting for Q1 2019.
What you should understand is that it takes time for a coin to be listed on an exchange,it takes time and for the fact that a coin doesn't list immediately on an exchange doesn't mean such coin is a scam,the OP should just remain patient and watch out for future announcements from the project,most times patience is highly needed


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Huntler1993 on January 28, 2019, 09:39:39 PM
Well it will be hard to tell since all you will know something is in the pipeline for token holder. Patience is really keen here so just belief what they are saying and watch their Way's before being judgemental.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Christinebeauty on January 28, 2019, 10:56:46 PM
The team not listing the coin on an exchange for 3 months is not a good reason to tag them as scam or not. I also invested in a certain ICO which ended in about 6 month ago but has not been listed yet due to the current market situation, though the team keeps updating the community frequently


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: kidbounty on January 29, 2019, 03:25:36 AM
not really, maybe the team thinks it's better to focus on development, rather than speeding up listings but making the price of coins destroyed. as long as the team always notifies all updates at any time, it doesn't seem to matter whether there is or no market before their platform is released. if you are not ready to accept something like this it is better not to join. remember there is nothing instant in this world, it needs a process to succeed.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Little Mouse on January 29, 2019, 03:29:40 AM
This project may be scam or may not be a scam. Buidling a project takes time. It's 3 months only as per your opinion. I think it takes more time. In my opinion, it is not a scam project if ico team is in contact. Ask them how much time will it take.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Ozero on January 29, 2019, 03:38:47 AM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.
This may be a good project, and fraud. On the one hand, the fact that the ICO team claims that they raised 50 million dollars during the ICO may not be true. On the other hand, the current situation in the cryptocurrency market is very complicated and many projects simply do not want to pay off investors and headhunters and transfer their tokens to the stock exchange so as not to degrade its price. Therefore, they delay time in the hope of a favorable change in the market situation. Basically, it makes sense. However, many ICO fraudulent projects also take advantage of this. Therefore, it will be known only after a certain time.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: tokoorochan on January 29, 2019, 03:49:36 AM
The team not listing the coin on an exchange for 3 months is not a good reason to tag them as scam or not. I also invested in a certain ICO which ended in about 6 month ago but has not been listed yet due to the current market situation, though the team keeps updating the community frequently
i see many ico projects that postponed their listing in market due several reason.maybe the market condition could be main reason for this.they worry if listing price dumped and they could not give their investors.personally i will agree with their decision.but they have to still active communicate with their investors.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: vickykashan101 on January 29, 2019, 04:16:42 AM
I guess the project being discussed here is CREDITS. Right?


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: tterrorpipa on January 30, 2019, 01:16:48 AM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.
If the team have reached its hard cap but still not listed on the exchange, but with a valid reason for like that, I think you should respect their decision. Let me ask you something, why are you in a hurry on the exchange. Are you selling all?


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: ansarose1 on January 30, 2019, 01:24:16 AM
I think it's not. Since listing of a coin in an exchange tooks long time, it's a long process. Maybe you should wait for your projects get be listed in exchanges, it's not just because it reached its hard cap then it would suddenly listed on exchanges.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: FUD Expert on January 30, 2019, 02:08:33 AM
I could say it's a 50/50 chance. If only we are not in a long bear period and that happens then I will conclude that they are a scam. But because of the market state, we can't be so sure at all. But with that money, they should be able to use some of it to quickly list on top 10 exchanges like in bittrex today.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: voltesbit777 on January 31, 2019, 01:32:39 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

May we know what ICO project is that mate, you didn't mention the name. It very seldom for the project to hit that target 50M$ if ever there is its only few of them. We can only say that is scam if they never give any updates about their project and they abandon it.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: valek.bruno on February 03, 2019, 02:56:24 PM
There is an opinion that this is really a scam project. As I recall, many projects that now have time to collect normal funds actually turn out to be scam projects, which in the end simply disappear. It is sad.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: neli234 on February 03, 2019, 03:01:32 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.
This may be a good project, and fraud. On the one hand, the fact that the ICO team claims that they raised 50 million dollars during the ICO may not be true. On the other hand, the current situation in the cryptocurrency market is very complicated and many projects simply do not want to pay off investors and headhunters and transfer their tokens to the stock exchange so as not to degrade its price. Therefore, they delay time in the hope of a favorable change in the market situation. Basically, it makes sense. However, many ICO fraudulent projects also take advantage of this. Therefore, it will be known only after a certain time.

totally agree with you, the current ICO projects are popular with using some tricks such as gaining softcap, raising a large amount of capital from private sale. Maybe they are not really bad, but I always ask the team about their ICO wallet address


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: judeafante on February 03, 2019, 03:21:52 PM
You didn't even give links to check, how is people supposed to give you an answer?

You are right we cannot give him an exact answer, maybe you are just protecting your stakes because you are one of the participants on their bounty campaign, I understand that but my guess is this is Bitmillex, they have not given their bounty and they are not listed in any exchange even though they have reached their cap.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: ynclksnr321 on February 03, 2019, 03:35:58 PM
I don't think that the project that has received 50 million investments will be a scam. Only the team is waiting for the market's poor conditions to improve. If the market gets a little better, everything will be fine.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: arjuna BTC on February 03, 2019, 03:40:32 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

sometimes the team member from the project give a fake informations abot how much money collected from the crowdsale,,
why they do this,, because they want to create a huge hype in their project,,
because, if they really collected about 50M USD,, is not too hard for their project to be listed on major exchange


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: magicrypto on February 03, 2019, 03:48:18 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.
Dont think so, 80% of projects dont list their tokens fast because of market conditions we got today. Even big and wellknown project can delay the listing for 6 months or even a year, its not mean that the project is scam, its just todays reality.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: trobbert on February 03, 2019, 03:52:00 PM
Please, tell me more about ICo you mean.Without any information I won't be able to give you answer.
As for me some ICOs just blatanly lie about amount collected and simply draw these collections without any proofs


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: saycryptohello on February 03, 2019, 03:58:32 PM
And this project accurately collected the named amount? Projects sometimes overestimate the funds invested in them in order to attract more attention.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Genemind on February 03, 2019, 04:03:04 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

Well, getting listed in an exchange after an ICO is not really healthy for a project. We all know that there are  a lot of people, not just bounty hunters, but also investors who dump their tokens just right after it gets listed to get all the money they can. It's good if the project is holding that event to happen, and focusing on the product it self.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: burky156 on February 03, 2019, 04:07:15 PM
You have to give link for us to check your situation, otherwise how could we know what is the name of the project? I also want to tell you that after the ICO time the projects need to prepare for the next steps and that would need some time. So three months not a such a long time, you need to give them more time unless they are not scammer. Scamming problem is everywhere in blockchain system and i wish that it would stay away from all of us..


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: jademaxxiss012 on February 03, 2019, 04:19:48 PM
You have to give link for us to check your situation, otherwise how could we know what is the name of the project? I also want to tell you that after the ICO time the projects need to prepare for the next steps and that would need some time. So three months not a such a long time, you need to give them more time unless they are not scammer. Scamming problem is everywhere in blockchain system and i wish that it would stay away from all of us..
That will going to identify the projects name and will be compromise.their reputation so probably OP does not want to give a link as to avoid any conflicts in regards with the team and how they managed their project.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: umar22pk on February 03, 2019, 04:22:58 PM
If a project achieved hard cap than it mean project have a potential & a good sound. You have to check their road map might possible they are touch in any exchanges regarding listing of tokens.

So you have to wait for positive response.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Muzika on February 03, 2019, 04:53:53 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

Maybe you better sight the ICO so that people know and can give you a good advise if you will just create a story regarding the ICO. And let us say it happened, yes it might be a scam due to the success of ICO and the time lapse for 3 months and they dont give a good reason.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Jack_Sin on February 03, 2019, 05:38:28 PM
if there are projects that claim to reach hardcap with fantastic value of up to $ 50 million or more but not listed on the stock exchange after a few months the ICO ends, it is worth suspecting that the listing fee is only 2-3% of ICO but not doing so, just because the reason is still platform development


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: PattersonRaquel on February 03, 2019, 05:57:59 PM
They are preparing it in the next 3 months. So wait to know what they will do next. You should see their roadmap and find the plan to list token on exchange. They cannot list tokens after reaching hardcap . they are scammers to make money.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: bitcoinmar on February 03, 2019, 06:09:16 PM
if there are projects that claim to reach hardcap with fantastic value of up to $ 50 million or more but not listed on the stock exchange after a few months the ICO ends, it is worth suspecting that the listing fee is only 2-3% of ICO but not doing so, just because the reason is still platform development

But if that money comes mostly from big investors, they don't need it to be listed on exchange. What they need is to set goals and achieve to make the project bigger and bigger. But does anyone tell me what the project is?


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: ableh on February 03, 2019, 06:17:22 PM
This year is different from before, although an ICO can collect more funds than expected but this cannot guarantee to quick listed in exchange. So as long as all their social media accounts remain active and responsive I think this is not a scam.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: marados on February 03, 2019, 06:29:13 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.

Seems like a lot of projects out there currently are just presenting their investors with big and shiny words like they will do that, they are doing this... bla bla bla. That's why it is always mandatory to do thorough research before investing your money or time (through bounty campaigns). And if something feels fishy it definitely is, and keep away from those kind of projects. Also, I'm sorry to hear if that turns out to be a scam.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: harapan on February 03, 2019, 08:06:48 PM
I also participated with a project that did the same thing. but it is difficult to say that the project is a scam, because until now the telegram is still active, moreover the project team is still there. maybe they are still developing for the platform or something, as long as the project team continues to be active I think the project is not fraud I don't know that's just my assumption.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: vickykashan101 on February 07, 2019, 06:31:25 AM
I am sure it is a scam. But remember getting listed on exchange is not the criteria that the project isn't scam.

Take the example of CREDITS (CS). They have raised a lot of money through ICO and it looks like their telegram is still active. But

- The same group of people of around 20 marketing team members are there who keep changing their names and it looks like they are very active
- They release the tokens without informing others and selling the supply and whales earning big chunk of money like that.
- Not listed on even a single big exchange.


So in my view even if a project is listed on an exchange, still it doesn't guarantee the credibility of it.

And the scenario that you gave, it looks like it is a pure scam.



Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: starblocks on February 14, 2019, 01:28:48 AM
There are quite a few large crowdsales that raised significant amounts of capital but have yet to list on a secondary market and this can be for various reasons including the current market conditions or not having a working product ready yet but if the team is communicative and demonstrating solid progress then it's unlikely it's an outright scam and some projects offer refunds if there are unforeseen delays or regulatory issues


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Abal Abal on February 14, 2019, 02:32:45 AM
when a project has received 50 million dollars and it has been proven that they have promoted their project at an event, I don't think you need to doubt their project anymore. and most projects that already have large funds they will work optimally so that their project is known to the world.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: chipzeru on February 14, 2019, 02:57:56 AM
Op, can you name the project you're talking about? I can't tell if the project is scam or not but it might be their strategy not to list the token on exchange when the product is not ready in order to prevent big dump.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: libert19 on February 14, 2019, 04:12:21 AM
Don't believe what their team 'claims', there must be token contract address where all funds would have been sent and tokens would have been generated, check it. If it seems fishy then it probably is.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: traderethereum on February 14, 2019, 06:52:57 AM
I believe there are too many projects that say they still develop the project and run every step in their roadmap, but without getting a list in exchange, they cannot prove to the investor and the bounty participants that their tokens are worth. They can say they have reached the soft cap and hard cap, but if they are not listed in any exchanges, then they need to explain those things to every people. Don't expecting too much with the projects in these situations because everything can happen so better you be careful.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: clonely on February 14, 2019, 06:59:08 AM
I believe there are too many projects that say they still develop the project and run every step in their roadmap, but without getting a list in exchange, they cannot prove to the investor and the bounty participants that their tokens are worth. They can say they have reached the soft cap and hard cap, but if they are not listed in any exchanges, then they need to explain those things to every people. Don't expecting too much with the projects in these situations because everything can happen so better you be careful.

I think it is about to bear market. I know some project started their ICO's when Ethereum price over 500 USD. And their economic plans has to be changed. Ethereum has lost a lot of value and not easy to start their ideas with this new value...


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Sacramentus on February 14, 2019, 07:00:45 AM
It doesn't mean they are scammers,  I know a project that has been on development for 6months now and have not listed on any exchange.  The team hasn't given you any reason to show they are scam, not listing on an exchange asap is not a reason


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: thesmallgod on February 14, 2019, 07:24:48 AM
You do not have enough reasons to call the project a Scam. Is the project having roadmap, if they do, then that will give you an indication of when the project will be listed if they do not have setback. Listing a project in good exchange take time and for the project, it is very good to first build a working product before listing because if they rush to listing the project, it might get dumped and not recover again. I participated in a project called Buzzshow a year ago and up till now, they are still delaying the listing.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: shinratensei_ on February 14, 2019, 07:31:09 AM
I believe there are too many projects that say they still develop the project and run every step in their roadmap, but without getting a list in exchange, they cannot prove to the investor and the bounty participants that their tokens are worth. They can say they have reached the soft cap and hard cap, but if they are not listed in any exchanges, then they need to explain those things to every people. Don't expecting too much with the projects in these situations because everything can happen so better you be careful.

I think it is about to bear market. I know some project started their ICO's when Ethereum price over 500 USD. And their economic plans has to be changed. Ethereum has lost a lot of value and not easy to start their ideas with this new value...
The plan must be changed and you can see how some big platforms are out of the development funds and they have canceled all of the further development progress. To be listed on exchange site needs a lot of money (Major exchange). Small exchange doesn't give a lot of impact on the platform.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: wuvdoll on February 14, 2019, 07:31:56 AM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos.
Listing into exchange has nothing to do with development of portal/platform. Because, even their tokens will get dumped due to on-going progress of of platform, they will be getting golden opportunity to buy their own tokens cheaper than ICO prices. This way I suspect their credibility as delaying for exchange listing may not have enough reasons.

Is it possible that the team is telling the truth?
I am surely doubting on this. Like, how we can believe that they really raised 50 million dollars ? That also could be another well-planned bait to keep you invest more. Staying per-coustious is always recommended as there are only 50% chances for them to be legit.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: OrangeII on February 14, 2019, 09:07:36 AM
Don't believe what their team 'claims', there must be token contract address where all funds would have been sent and tokens would have been generated, check it. If it seems fishy then it probably is.
contract addresses are very important in this regard. anyone can say that they have raised a lot of money, but in the end it's just words. most important of all, there is a contract address shown. there are even a number of projects that I know that even the production is under $ 10 million, but has entered into several markets


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Suwycu on February 14, 2019, 09:19:55 AM
I do not think that projects really collect the sums they talk about, sometimes they are content with the minimum that they manage to collect, but which they do not disclose!


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: dcomomal on February 14, 2019, 09:22:54 AM
I think it is, because I have also seen some projects that have not even distributed their tokens and the TGE was around 6 months ago. They are always saying that they are waiting for the better market conditions, but it can be postponed for years.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: as9ardia on February 14, 2019, 10:06:44 AM
how we can judge that project if u didn't give us materials, at least link to the project.

Exchange is not always project goal. some project not placing exchange in a top priority


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Johnzky on February 14, 2019, 10:19:42 AM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.
You should have asked the team regarding this matter,and if they are not answering your inquiries then better put here the links regarding to that specific project so we can check on it,and may the DTs look unto deeper side of the said project for the benefits of bounty hunters and investors because in scam section we can find false adds of some team about the collected funds and some are the dev also bought the tokens to looks like legits but the truth are scamming


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: spike420211 on February 14, 2019, 01:28:11 PM

So in my view even if a project is listed on an exchange, still it doesn't guarantee the credibility of it.

And the scenario that you gave, it looks like it is a pure scam.



Totally agree with you. Each case must be considered separately, each case is unique. But as a rule, these large fees and too slow development of the project speaks about scam.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Pffrt on February 14, 2019, 01:30:05 PM
Not sure because listing in the current market can destroy the whole market you know it's a bear market. I will be better to wait for the next few months and in a Bullrun, they should launch. It will be the best idea and that's what the team is doing possibly.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: inanilujimi on February 14, 2019, 01:39:50 PM
not all tokens must be quickly registered on the exchange.
if with the current market conditions they prioritize the quality of their products is a good thing that we must support.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Google+ on February 15, 2019, 06:10:04 AM
Don't believe what their team 'claims', there must be token contract address where all funds would have been sent and tokens would have been generated, check it. If it seems fishy then it probably is.
it often happens like that, they see on the ICO website that it has reached a hard stamp and that the funds raised have reached 50 million but you have to make sure that the collected funds are that much? and the best method might be to look at the available road map and try to ask in their telegram group.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: chichidori on February 15, 2019, 06:18:05 AM
If they have raised 50 Mil they should be transparent about it and show some proof that they did in fact collected it if its just a word of mouth then there is a big chance that is a scam, seen a lot of project boosting there sale but in truth they have sold close to none.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: sssergy on February 15, 2019, 06:22:39 AM
Listed in several good exchange this is not enough for decide good project or scam project. I did experienced a campaign after 1.3 years get listed although 50M lots of fund.


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: tins on February 17, 2019, 07:48:56 PM
I think it is normal, as you look at the DFINITY project, they only sell pre-sale and have earned nearly $ 200 million. However, at the moment they are not listed in any exchange


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: Nggedebus on February 17, 2019, 07:54:33 PM
I have join a project to which it claims that the team was able to collect 50M in USD but until now they could not be able to list the token in an exchange. Their reason was the team were preparing the platform for almost 3 mos. now. I am starting to believe it when they show something great after sponsoring a certain event to which the name of the project was being flashed in the screen. Is it possible that the team is telling the truth? They want to bring a project with demand so that the token will not be undervalued. What do you think of this project scam or not? I could not name the project for now to protect their reputation.
I still not quite sure if the project is a scam or not, cause sometimes a project taking  a long time for them to get the tokens listed in an exchange.
Has the team announce any further about their project listing in an exchange?


Title: Re: ICO reached hard cap - 50 MILLION- not listed in an exchange - SCAM?
Post by: red4slash on February 17, 2019, 07:57:02 PM
not all tokens must be quickly registered on the exchange.
if with the current market conditions they prioritize the quality of their products is a good thing that we must support.
maybe you are right there are some projects that have big goals for the market but it will take a long and tedious time for the owner of the token. so I think for the market it might be better to gradually move from a small to large market