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This is just a normal 1month chart of Bitcoin.
No indicators are being used.

I’ve been trading for almost 2years now and I can say, I can now trade by just looking at the chart without using any indicators, i don’t know why I was able to do this but I think this is normal after reading a lot of books, watching youtube tutorials about trading and so many failed trades.

This post is not to bragged anyone, this is meant to inspire people not to give up on trading or not to depend to anyone. If you really want to know more about trading, then you should take more effort. I didn’t learn trading overnight it took me almost 2years before I can confidently trade. Always start with a small step and in time, you can also trade without using any indicators.

Exactly we need to it by ourselves and that's why I'm trying to learn trading properly and I hope I will learn it within next 5 months.

All you said was correct and that is how it should be to avoid loss.

They all want that rush profit in just a manner of time which is incorrect. It will just lead to a hellish ending.
I do look at a weekly basis of charts and not for months. I guess that is how it is with altcoins out there specially the ERC20 ones.
When they are new in exchanges the fluctuations are too deep or too high.

There is a reason why people say trading is gambling.  You an have all the past charts laid out and be analyzing patterns that happen but you never truly know what will happen.  Crypto markets are like stocks on s teroids and trying to day trade is extremely risky.  I always advice newbies to hold and never go short or long with high leverage.

Holding is the most risky strategy. Especialy for newbie.

I described it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4456137.msg39881422#msg39881422

Daytrading is the safest way to earn on this market. When you are experienced trader you know how big risk you are taking. Simply when you put 1000$ with 1% stoploss you are risking 10$. After 10 waste trades you can stop, change strategy and you wasted 100$. You know exacly where you are, what risk you take and you can stop every moment. If you are unexpirienced trader you can start with lowest bet (~4 $ on binance). What can go wrong? In worst case you will close trade after few hours with 3,6$ wasting 0.40$. Its cheapest way to learn trading.

While in hodling strategy you opened 1 trade and after 2 months you are 80% loss. Because whole market went down/ you choose wrong coin due to wrong research/ you did your job good but the team scamed you. You lost your money and didnt learn anything. Is there any worst strategy?

I would want to no how effective and successful you have been when trading with out the use of trading indicators

It's not just all about saying you trade with out the use of an indicator it's also about how many times have you ran a profit or a loss

Seeing what you say is that experience becomes your best teacher as long as you learn about how to trade well, I also do the same thing as you are learning from every trade mistake to get a better experience, at least I can get a fixed profit without having to look an indicator

There is no indicator can be used to find the perfect trades,it all just for indication so doing trades without it also okay as long as you are able to hit the right track but doing this kind of trading may not work always unless you are doing some strategies on it.

Without indicators it was always possible to trade and now so many people trade. The goal is always the same-to follow a certain strategy and put stop-loss. This strategy is almost always winning, the only problem is that 99% of the players DO not have a strategy and therefore people lose money!.
Seeing the growth of the token, everyone starts to rush to this asset and buy, so they usually lose money..

Personally, the more indicators one person use, the more noise he will gather on a chart, which to me doesn't sound like helping at all. On the other hand, trading without guidelines is like trading blindly, only relying on intuition and knowledge that may fail since every market scenario is different from one another. I applaud you for doing this, though I don't think you're profiting much compared to when using some indicators, but then again to each his own.

For me, trading without indicators it looks like getting lost in a forest without carrying a compass :v
Do with your own style and keep trading

I don't exactly agree with you. Because if you have been so busy with the graphs, just looking to it is enough when picture is in front of you. This may not always be the case, but is often the case for simple graphics.

No problem ;)

Everyone has their own way when trading
Because my style doesn't have to be like as your

Exactly, even if we use so many indicators if its not meant to be it will not happen, especially in cryptomarket where volatility is very high. It will not always work but it is more effective to me than to stress myself using indicators.


Yes, do the things that is more comportable with you. If you think using indicators can make you more effective do it, as long as you make profit it is still good. Just don’t trade without the right knowledge because its too risky.

Indicators are just there to help you about your decision in trading.  I think we are not going to succeed in trade by just looking at the chart without indicators as most of the high volume trading bots are build base on one indicators or another and when trading set up is about to happen you will not no.

Works for me too.  The most important thing is to observe the trend and buy when it dips and sell when it's goes up. Not as simple as this though but it works majority of the time.

Trade without indicators is too difficult for me, im not expert in trading and dont have much experience there. If I try to trading with your style, I'll just get big loss.

chart reading comes from experience by watching charts and candles once we get hang of what movements effects the trend we can easily predict the next move videos and books can give idea but only self learning and implementing helps a lot

trading with indicators blindly is also harmful , you should have some idea to judge whether the indication signals are correct or not if you just trade based on crossovers , overbought and oversold and ets it will be kill your capital

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532063983704866818/538805050156384256/Capture.PNG
c how many trade opportunity we can find, when we staart to draw and analyze its easy to predict

I don't think right now with that exact daily volume and volatility crypto are like stocks on steroids. Day-trading on cryptocurrency are same risky as stocks or forex.

Even as a beginner with no experience in trading,i would not still advice one to trade using trading signals,such signals could really be deceptive and misleading atimes,and could lead to huge losses
Instead of trading indicators,its best one learns the various trading strategies and analysis closely and put them into practice,and with time you'll learn the ropes and be able to trade without them.
Trading is very delicate,closely checking the pros and cons of every technique uses is vital

The most trusted indicator is the "Eye". If you understand what I mean. This should be complimented with the fundamentals. Otherwise, you're just gambling and it's a matter of time before you're burnt.

Previously find out the meaning of the indicator word first, An indicator is something that can be a clue, maybe without you realizing that the graph is actually also an indicator, I do not believe that traders who are adept at using blind trade.. actually all trading indicators are charts that are changed in different forms, but the point is the same to read and know the market situation.

Yes, Profit is the point
If you can make a profit without indicators, so there is no need to try another way ;)

Satisfaction is very important. Trades at your comfortable zone and your own strategies, if you'll be in the good play then there is no need to change it. The most important is it result beneficial to us, in fact our own instinct will simply add to it. If you are in trading, you should be in focus in order to understand fully the chart, don't trade if you're not reading cause it only end up badly.

You may not be expert right now but soon if you just continue to work on that one.
I’m not saying to trade with my style, what I mean is that I’ve got this skills through hard work and for almost two years of learning, so this mean trading is not easy just like what others thought and if you just work hard on this, you will enjoy this kind of skills in the future.

You are a good example for this topic .  trade without indicators is the same as trading randomly or blindly , thats why even a newbie and uneducated person can do this effortly. Though in my case id rather play gambling because i can won larger amounts when compared to trading while the market is still in dump state  because i cannot really earn enough knowing that i wont use indicators .

People will find their way to make money and many people still not found it because not believe their skill or depending their decisions into bot/ public opinion. When people can take lesson from their experience it will create new person with old method, the person have different mindset & calculation but not the method. I hope your post can give others new side of trading world, just never give up.

I make 95% and more of my trades without using any indicators because almost all indicators are made for regular markets. Bitcoin is not a regular market, because rates could be manipulated with just few millions or even less. It's impossible to do the same on FX markets with so small amounts. And I could say I'm doing good at my eyes.

Yeah, I know. You have created this thread was not for suggesting others to use the same style in trading like you. You created it just for inspiring and share your experiences in trading to others.

Trading without using any Indicators is called naked trading, although without indicator we can still determine support and resistance by to see price pattern, and to be more easy to know suport and resistance area we can use only trend line. Good analysis in trading is not to understand how to use many different indicator but to understand the trend and price action. Naked trading can be work better if we using daily time frame for swing trading.

Well indicators could help you to see the reversal and when the trend is going to change, there are traders that trade without indicator, they used price action, if you are really good in price action then you can know the market movement without indicator, but its still recommended to learn about indicators, it is really useful to combine price action and indicators

The blank chart I mean Price Action trading one of most effective trading strategy, Indicator help traders finding out the major trend, an indicator not a bad thing.

I agree with that. People just rely too much on trading indicators, preductions, charts and analysis and sometimes even follow them without any thinking. And that often don't bring you profit but losses..
The only way you will come successful trader is your own experience. I'm not saying that you don't need any knowledge and basic information, strategy and plan, but time spent on the market and learning on your own experience and results will give you the best guidelines how to behave as a trader.

the problem with signals when you blindly follow them is the managing of the trade when it doesnt go according to the original plan.

I sometimes do use them for confirmation of my own bias though.

Practice makes you really perfect in that field. After all of those failed attempts, you are now in a different level of traders in the market. Hard works really pay off at the end of the day. I wonder if you could make a lot of fortune now since you can trade without any indicators. So what is the difference of your profit when you are not using indicator vs using some indicator?

Trading without using indicator is like guessing price like gambling
The function of indicator is prevent major loss and control your trading management.

But in crypto , everything is more risky because the value is volatile ( depend on supply and demand )

You are right there, you can use indicator as a reference guide when are in trading but always remember don't stick on the indicator much better if you have your own research on choosing the right coins in trading. Since cryptocurrencies is a highly volatile there's no reason you can't earn a profit even you use indicators or not.

Everyone has different style in trading and if that works for you then you have to be thankful as life is easier for you as a trader.

Some has to have a lot of sources to analyze the price before making a decision and it does not even guarantee them to guess the right price movement.
Watching videos are reading books really helps a lot, it does not need to follow the basic in terms on how to analyze because what's important is to come up with a profit, regardless of our strategy, you are one of the genius in trading mate, good luck on your journey.

technical indicators should combine with support and resistance technique.usually big players use this strategy to maximize their best position to enter market.

I think I have done this before with commodities only.
But with crypto, I always use the indicators. Thanks for sharing though.

It might be because of your experience and that is why you can do it all without even having a difficult time. When you are already used to what you have been doing, it doesnt matter anymore where the indicators at. Just like you said, the chart can tell it all. ;D

Experienced is the best teacher you can be effecient ij your trading career by just reading and watching video tutorials. You need to do it by yourself  personally and apply what have you learned from the books and at the end of the day your day to day experienced will help you mold to become an expert trader.

Even I would able to trade without indicators with just having to spot out a particular time frame.In all of our experience specially if we did try in the past using some
indicators you would really come to a point on where even you wont set out technical tools with your eyes can already identify. Just using support and resistance on imaginary phase
will already give you the hint. Even forming triangle set-up will easy to spot out.

With 2 years of involvement on the market there is no doubt you can trade whenever you want and you can time your selling on high point area. When beginning on this kind of industry we are entitled to commit mistakes of course no one becomes a master in one try thus we are gaining experiences to it. I'm trading for about 3 years now and my market instinct is as good as professionals.

The secret to got success in trading specially now the condition of crypto crisis situation is patience set aside the feelings during monitoring the chart and your thought is the plus factor to become    successful in trading, never give up and surrender until can't achieve the goals.

You are a veteran and what you are using is technical analysis by observation. Though you may have been doing well with this system, this will ruin any newbie who tried to copy you. Hope you will not ask any to follow your strategy.

I think a newbie can figure by just understanding buy low sell high. I'm not an expert so I don't also know what other traders do but moving averages doesn't help me. RSI however are the ones that tells when to sell and when to buy, this only works to some tokens though. 

This is what I believe mate. I do not understand why people fall for those telegram groups with someone giving them fake signals all the time. I do not understand why people depend on someone else with their hard earned money while they should be doing the trading as per their own analysis. Everything takes time and so does trading. Investing the money in a random coin won't help, all you gotta do is learn and improvise.
Once we start to do it, I am sure that we will be able to trade independently. We might loose in the beginning but the victory is for sure in the long run.

if you practice too often with technical analysis and also remember that in the past 2 years you have experienced many chart patterns that were not exist in the past 1 month. So I think if there are some people who also try to learn like that but don't experience the same market conditions, it will take even longer

There is no need of any indicators in trading. Following some indicators and if the user experience a loss he cannot accept it. If the same is done on his own, he'll have the mind to accept it. In this way analyzing ourselves and getting into trade will let the user gain good experience rather than studying someone's trading practice.

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Even then if he has a lot of experience but the market is always unpredictable, i wonder how many losses he took over the past 2 years. If people want to experience like that, they need more money to survive in the market like that.
Trading is not that easy as you think, look OP how he got his position right now, it took him 2 years and too many losses until he became professional in his career as long as he never give up.

Newbie should understand trading first, buy low sell high is a good starting point but you have to improve it later on. Some indicators doesn’t work to me as well, and since cryptocurrency is super volatile sometimes your strategy will become different so it should be more flexible that is more related to the trend.

good analysis yes as ypu said if we decide to draw zone we can understand chart better

People will success if they can find their character and use it on the right time ( moment ), for this method only can do by people who have dedication and high knowledge. This is not new method but most people who use it is silent trader, so for this one we can't have any information about. Thank you for sharing this and I hope many people will share their experience for us.

Sometimes difficult to determine support and resistance if we dont use any indicator in trading, in my opinion we have to use minimum 1 indicator and maximum 3 different indicators. Moving average, Bolinger band and trendline is easy indicator to use and to understanding.

usually naked trader using no indicators in their chart to determine support and resistance level they only use line and trend line.but it will take long time to understand identifying this level.

Experience is indeed a thing that can make us easier to trade. But an indicator is important.
We must be able to make the best decisions so that data indicators from various analyzes and experiences will determine what we will get.
This is not entirely a benchmark, but this will help us to get closer to success.

Horizontal resistance.
Trendlines.
Fibonacci tool.

Three simple tools and no indicators needed.

You're right,  it takes more time to understand that but it surely give you a good insights what kind of strategies you might have in the future. 
I also do trading with my own market understanding and so I have to believe my self cause anything happen with it,  I'll just blame my self, nothing more.

By studying every pattern that exists on a graph I think that is enough for you to trade with high self confidence, learning something cannot be done quickly and we definitely need a long time with all the experience we will get from analyzing and learn it. So anything can be achieved if you do have high intention and confidence to continue to strive for your dreams for great success in the future.

Different people have different skills so there is not much importance for the indicators as long as people using strategic trading,only blind trading without any indicators will leads to us like gambling.Anyway trading is also like a form of gambling highly depends on luck even if we are skillful.

you dont have to know every pattern. You need to get used to trading certain setups. Even if you only know how to trade one setup, you can be a profitable trading. Know the setup and how to trade it,so you know when to execute the trade. And use proper risk management. Dont over trade.

There are thousands of indicators and strategies available but learning few and making use of them effectively is more important rather than what OP is suggesting. I mean to say indicators are here just for helping us to have easy and time-efficient trading and ignoring them is not a good way of trading in my opinion.

Trading through naked chart is some kind of art and it will not be possible for all the experienced traders. For this type of trading, you need to listen your inner thoughts so that you can derive trading signals. This must be another professional way of trading and it will not be feasible for everyone. I believe instead of looking for learning some unique way of trading, we must focus on general and easy way of strategies for making profits in trading.

Of course, that's very simple because it's only spoken
it would be better if you can explain the functions of these tools
speaking is easier than implementing :v

Hello friends, mainly my decision making when doing trading obeys Wyckoff, because the market must be understood, we can not force with triangles or indicators, because everything is supply-demand, the market is often moved by the emotions of the operators , only by looking at the graph and the volume due to a certain time can we realize what is the meaning of it.

I also having a hard time on implementing these tools so I choose not to use it at all. Simple MA can make a big difference. When you used to trade, your eyes can easily the possible reversal and of course the support and resistance level which allow you to trade while looking at the plain chart.

Hello everyone, here I put my analysis based on Wyckoff, as you can see, I only identify the phase and sub phase of Spring, I only use Elliot for trends ... it is a trade without any indicators or EMA, only volume, and we know that the Volume is not an indicator, we must see the volume if it is not the consolidated one.

Everyone has his own method of trading some trading with indicators and some people are trading w/o indicators with good success rate. It depends which method suits you. Some people also trades based on levels successfully. Actually it depends upon individuals mindset, I have seen many people trading one method successfully but when others try to trade the same way it lead to losses. Trading is not bounded to some fixed rules, even some people trade successfully with market sentiments analysis, the more you practice trading more successful you will be in it.

Actually, there is no such a big difference between trading and gambling. Both of this things are connected with risks and management of them. We have a deal with possibilities: in one hand I make a bet on red and in the other one I sell coins. And one more thing: gambling doesn't mean that you are gonna loose your money. Some people earn money regularly in that way. Of course there are not many of them, but remember that only 5% out of all traders are profitable.

That's amazing and I need how to get that skill, so tired with indicator and sometimes make me confuse because market always change. This is good method for people who doesn't have high education but mostly have a lot of experience. Learn from this person is very good to keep our strategy stay on the track because we see big picture not pieces. Let's make time and learn something to change our life.

I don't think how indicators works in trading, Isn't bad if you used indicators as long as you have done also research on how to be a good trader, indicators for me is just like a reference which you might be looked out if you want to have a comparison. Deeply research, analysis, fundamental skills, indicators and references, those are tools in trading not rely on one source. For me, if you are in trading without any indicators you just like expecting a piece of luck nor worst like gambling.

I think it is true that you are able to trade without indicators. You have gain experience over the past 2 years and you actually gain knowledge by studying trading.

Honestly I've been checking all these indicators but probably it is not my thing I just buy the crypto and sell it for fiat and then back on DEX exchanges it is easy to do. Firstly I was using EtherDelta now I like iDEX as well 8) there's also a new dex platform coming DexAge if I'm not mistaken they are using integrated indicators charts from TradingView inside their market something like HitBTC does maybe it is convenient for some people who are into indicators :)

Sometimes the success associated with luck too so trading is like gambling done with some basic level knowledge.So if still people can make profits without any indicators then may not be doing trading as the profession just from their understanding and part time job to make some profits.Use indicators and understand the market well and decide what we need to next.

in fact every information that can be read in the trading terminal is an indicator, price, volume, even the graph itself is an indicator, unless you trade without looking at the market..

Every market trades differently.

When I used to trade stocks, I used the VWAP and the moving averages alot. With Crypto I find moving averages on small timescales not very reliable.

Also I've never had success with Fibonacci with Crypto. Sometimes when it actually presented a good trade it was usually for other reasons like a support/resistance area at the same level or some round whole number.

Right now the best is simply head/shoulders and basic support/resistance patterns, which works well since we are in a mostly sideways market since last Summer 2018.

For me,  it is impossible to win in trading without using indicators. I am sure that you are just lucky because your guess are always correct. It is better if we will use indicators in trading for us to know when is the right time to enter and to exit in trading.

You can only invest without using indicators, if you are trading like daily and do not use indicators you will be hurt and lose money since they are the only things that shows the direction of bitcoin in short span of time. You can always disregard indicators and buy something for future profits in a long term (over 6 months) period but that is investing and not trading, if you hold something for months and then sell it you can't call it trading.

Use indicators if you want short quick span trading because it is the only way, only disregard it if you are going to hodl the coin you buy. Indicators do not always work and sometimes fail to predict things but usually they are still better than just a gut feeling of buying and selling something since indicators even tough wrong sometimes are still better than your emotions.

The whole trading is taking your time to know what system works for you better I think the more you stick to your routine the more effective you become there will be moment where you can just tell the direction of things by mere looking but you have to put in the effort

I'm using MA as only indicator during my day trades + volumes on the two sides of the book. It's working good for most alts if you don't do stupid moves.
This is for crypto tradings. For Forex I'm using over 10 indicators because they are much more relevant there.

preferably if we want to get results, then use all available assistance including trade indicators, if we use various means of assistance in trading then we can indirectly avoid large losses that could have happened. so there is no need to hesitate to use all kinds of trade aids if you need to use trade simulations, this aims to train us to face real trading.

Indicators are there to help us, It really works of course. Your trading style will depend on you and your knowledge, if you want to trade using more indicators its possible and no one can stop you from that. Don't hesitate to use it, let's all win in trading.

Yes, forex and stocks are moving more of the pattern so indicators really needed on that. In cryptomarket you just need to know what is the best indicators to use for.

I think only expert trader that can make analysis the market without using indicator. I personallly use minimum 1 indicator to know where the support and resistance. Indicator will help to determine support and resistance area, and also will help to predict the trend and price action.

Sometimes, I don't use any indicators to trade too, but still, it's very difficult if we don't use any indicators. You are done good work to trade without using indicators, and I hope you can always make a profit by watching the chart only. It will need time before we can master and know where the trends to go. But still be careful when you want to decide the price to buy and sell.

Its good for you if you have some reference to predict the market,even experts will use the indicators when they are day trading so people who were doing trading without indicators are just like gambling with their money.

Everyone without exception can make analysis
beginner trader: they only see percentage changes in 24h, when the market is in the "red" condition they will preparing to buy (not at all)
the difference between experts and beginners is the accuracy of analysis ;)

I envy your skills in reading charts without even using such indicators. This is so inspiring, i can say that you are a great experienced trader now. I hope i can learn also all what you've learned and will also come to a point that I can still tradr by just looking at the chart. I admit that I cannot proceed with my trading without indicators that is why i was really shocked when I've read your thread.

Being a professional and a beginner would always be different yet we do know the experience and the knowledge and each decision would really
matter yet the one who do have knowledge on how this market works would really have that kind of edge.Trading without indicators and basing up with
your guts,intuition is easy but it vary on what kind of trader you are.

Most of the day traders are doing this. :)

Just buying and selling crypto currencies with the intention of making money but not always this will work since we just believe on our luck.

Then you are not doing trading but rather you are doing gambling. Not all day traders are doing this yet most of the time,relying on indicators is common on these short time frame trades.

With trading very few were lucky to get big in short time period. It is not that easy to earn big with trading, one need to learn more about the strategies and the way one can make profit. This is possible through small scale investing and experimenting. In most of the case users profit when they keep hold of the cryptocurrencies for long term.

I am not doing day trading either,all I want to say that people who were just new to the crypto trading were doing like that.

Well said. I myself has still a lot of knowledge to learn when it comes to making good trades. I used indicators so it could atleast guide me along the way. But, what the OP said is very possible for me and for everyone. Experience will teach us how to turn our hundreds of failures into a million success.

Nah, I wouldn't go that strategy. Just buying and then off-loading them later? What if the coins they bought didn't have a good pump? Then they are already in the loss. That's not how a trading should look at. Of course they can trade without indications but it's not a good practice. It's like listening to troll box and just believing every word those speculators are saying. If you are not ready for trading here, then stop and study and learn first, otherwise you will just be swept by a lot of speculators and FUD going around and it will result to a massive lost on your end.

Exactly,when we are supposed to do something then we have to make it perfect by learning all the things before starting to workout on it.

If sooner the coins isn't pumped, I just have to wait til price rise up. I usually just buy coins from the exchange but at least I will try to see the coin dips first before buying. Selling after seeing few bucks of profit isn't a good strategy but will be if you just have to keep hopping from one coin to another. Checking which coins has lesser transaction fees while doing it.

MA indicator are good in term of altcoin but only traders that careful and smart can profitable trade altcoin. Like the topic says ones can actually trade without the use of indicators by using a genuine and active price alert app which was the best way of trading on the go.

It depends on how much yor profit margin was,I am expecting you are a short tem or long term trader so those few buck won't convince you to sell your holding but there are some people will set their target as 1% or even less so they will ready to use even if the price dump or bump is small.

But I personally feel it is safer to use indicators all the times to avoid learning through the hard way.
I am not bragging about this but all the years I have been trading has been through indicator and I have never lost so much.

I learnt trading for almost a year through forex before getting into cryptocurrency trading, if you don’t use indicator, one will lose several times though it is sure that one will learn through this way, but it is not every trader that can risk losing any of their investment several times before getting it right, the op must have counted over twenty consecutive losses before he became perfect but how many of us can even afford to lose three times before going bankrupt.

You were learning trading for two years .You got a good experience on trading .Now you are able to get the movement of chart without indicator .Its your strategy and skill that's make you sense where need to buy .However I am not so experienced on trading .I need indicator or tools to understand the momentum of chart .Its my strategy to trade on the market .

Once you are already engage into a thing for a long time you would definitely done the things without the need of indicators since you can able to draw those lines within your mind or shall we say imaginary
indicators which your mind is already got used to for the long time you have been using it.Your mind is previewing automatically even these indicators isn't really applied.

If we already understanding about price action will be not necesary to use indicator because from the historycal price we can decide which support and resistance area. I have seen many professional trader just use 1 indicator only for trading, the more important thing is knowledge about how to read price pattern.

See ? Pro traders also use indicator . so why we shouldnt be ?  When indicators are a good way to aid us on our trading career  . skills cant and experience are not enough to predict the outcome of the coins due to the changing nature of cryptos  but at the end of the day ,  indications cant still guarantee you a secure profit because luck will still matter the most  .

trading without indicators needs lot of practice and experience if we practice then we cann make profits without depending on any indicator   

We can't deny that it's still better to use indicators though we say that we are professional for better retracement of market movement. If we'll just trading without indicators, our guts might be fault thus can result can be more errors.

right, that what is called Experience  :)
still, I guess you combine it with news

For new people who are in trading, they better to learn about the indicators. As time goes, they will get more experience, and they can start to not depends on the indicators but still, it needs time before we can understand. Maybe the OP wants to open short course for us and teach us about how he can determine the trend movements ;D

We need to use the feeling too to determine the price and the trend movements so we can decide to buy or to sell. But the first time we don't use the indicators, maybe we will make a mistake which will make us learn more about watching the line that is at the market.

For the short term, maybe the indicator is not really needed because you only need a candle on the chart. but for the long term
certainly indicators are very important to determine when you have to buy and sell

I agree with you, we don’t have to take everything we see or read on the internet, I know we are all opened to learning but we need to be careful not to learn what will make us make a costly mistake that we will end up regretting for the rest of our lives.

If you don’t trade without indicators, you are either trading with emotion or intuition, which emotional trading is very bad for the business while we can still manage intuition but I has to be mixed with strategy which should come through the trading analysis tools available for us to use.  For me, I will stick with my indicators and not dare try what the OP said because I cannot afford to risk any of my trade, I have passed that testing stage.

If trading for some chances and taking the risk in this short term opportunities, indicators are needed in order to make some good assessment,
knowing the right pattern and observed it well to make sure that you are following the graph correctly, most traders still doing and using this
factors in order to make a possible advantages.

Having such indicators can still be good of course it is our guide but sometimes traders are usually too lazy to draw lines so i guess they are just using their eyes and their minds will work hard for them to see the pattern. It requires time and patience and errors will still happen even if you do trading for years now.

Traders must think that learning trading is not overnight. I agree with what you said OP.
The materials you used to learn trading is very helpful and traders must do it too. Learn everything, watch tutorial videos, read books, find a mentor. This things will help you if you really want to become a successful trader.
For me, I'm still a newbie so I rely most of the time to the indicators :D.

I just think that trading without using Indicators is just another way of gambling technique  :-\
Well for me, that was a bad way to start getting profit, Even use or not use indicators still count on how luck we are in trading. Its just how some people comfortable with this

New traders or old, even normal or professional traders all need to spend a lot of time analyzing and observing market indicators because this is the best way for us to predict and catch what will happen to the market, increase accuracy in decision making and improve our chances of success in investment. If we don't use indicators, we're just gambling, what we're doing is just trading instinctively, and the risk from this method is probably one thing that all common people warn, is very high and we will almost lose a lot of money when we fail.

In cryptocurrency trading, indicators don't often work, by looking at the chart daily you would gain a lot of experience that would be very useful in deciding when to buy and when to get out of the market.

I am an investor usually engaged in trading without considering any auxiliary tools or investment advice. I cannot always say that I have earned a profit or profit margin, but I would like to say that if I generalize on a monthly basis, I am constantly increasing my capital at the end of each month. I think the only secret of this success is that it should not be a panic. In the case of panic, it is very important to close the process screen and not make wrong decisions. Of course, these tools used will certainly benefit us, but as I said, I do many successful operations without using any auxiliary tools.

Crypto market preferably works on fundamentals rather than on technical analysis if the developments or events effort on the market then we will see price growth

In my own opinion and knowledge, it doesn't matter if you use indicators or not. I saw there are lot of traders out there got their profit in it without using indicators. All they have was they knew the basic knowledge about it, and some are known also how to analyze to read the candlestick in the chart to find out if the price will pump or dump.

For the traders who are familiar with technical analysis, they will still use the indicator as a reference to entry
whether it is for the short term or the long term

This is really going to be difficult without any indication but i will follow this for a while to see how things actually go but is really a risk that can hurt one really bad

Wow. That’s really nice that you can trade without any indicators. I think we all can but you just look at the price action. In any exchange, you could just have a chance of 50/50 towards how you can see the market, it’s either you go Long or Short with your trades. It’s just that easy. I love to use indicators like MACD, RSI and EMA. It’s used to be a confirming indicator if the trades would be good to go whether over bought or over sold. I use that also in my Gunbot (https://gunbot.ph/gunbot-features).

Yes, it is possible to trading without using the indicator. I saw some traders who did not use any indicator while trading. Even if they did not ask someone trade expert once in the trade. They trade only by seeing the price rise and down chart. Even if they could tell any cryptocurrency they would increase in the future. They could say the future of any cryptocurrency. I think they and you are very skilled at trading.

Thank you

Both people who use indicator or not can be professional, because using indicator not means that people have no skill. But sometime out there who not use indicator only speculate in market and then buy and sell his coin according to price only.

Today, the majority of traders who receive income from daily trading work in this way. With the current state of the cryptocurrency market there is no reason to delve into the trade to use indicators .