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Bitcoin, ethereum and some other cryptocurrencies  will hit all-time-high again. But up till now, there's no clear technical or fundamental indications that this will even in the next two years.

Technicely, the second half of 2019 would even be more boring than that of 2018. Markets will be slow, volatility will be slim... traders wouldn't make much at that period.

Which brings me to the topic - why 60% OF CURRENT CRYPTO HOLDERS MIGHT NOT CATCH THE NEXT BULL RUN

The answer to this question Is straight forward:
over 60% of cryptpholders are newbies...because market will be flat in it's low for over 11 months... this period of flat market movements is enough to burn those 60% out... particularly those who went all-in

WHAT CAN BE DONE TO AVOID THIS?

Well, the only thing that can be done to avoid this, is to prepare for a long boring market. Investing what you know you wouldn't need to touch for years. Have something that would sustain you, such that you don't go broke, hence having to tap into your crypto-portfolio.

Simply find a small job to do, while the market flattens out. Hold your portfolio at the bottom, and the markets will thank you at the top😎

Keep patient waiting for next bull market is key to recover loss and make some profit. While waiting for that, we can learn more about the mistake before and will never do it the same mistake again. With low capitalization of crypto , market bull market will be coming for sure and by keep patient waiting for we will catch it.

I don't know how long this "crypto winter" will last, but I'm still more confident than you. However, in the worse case scenario indeed more and more will become "weak hands".
What to do? Help people keep believing in the coins they invested in. Help them not despair. Keep explaining the wisdom behind the words "if you didn't sell you didn't lose".

Yes, to hold and leave it untouchable for years would be better option to pick! I mean don't look at our portfolio for years. Because some will panic or other needs will persuade us to sell our cryptos while the bull doesn't come yet. It's very difficult not to touch our coins if we keep remembering or watching over our portfolio regularly.

bitcoin will because it is useful and it has a cap.
but a coin like ethereum will never be able to reach its ATH simply because the only usage of it is to be an ICO platform which is dying, and it doesn't have a cap. it already is unlimited so it can not rise in the long run even though it will see pump and dumps.

there is nothing boring about a stable price, at least not for bitcoin. and as for altcoins not all of them are stable. we already have a lot of pump and dumps going on which if you were a trader you could make a lot of profit from.

both of these statements are your guess and you never explained why you think that way. for example why do you think that rises are going to take 2 full years (starting from the beginning of the drop until next 11 months)? that simply is impossible, it is too long.

weak hand newbies are already flushes out. so your logic doesn't make much sense to me.

Where is that number coming from ? How do we know 60% of the crypto people are newbies ? What data suggests anything like that? What is the reasonable time to call someone new ? Is it 3 months ? Is it 6 months ? Is it 5 years ? There are soooo many open to suggestion things on this topic that I can say 60% of what you said is wrong.

No there are no newbies at that level you think, most people are people who have been here ever since the peak or before and that makes it over a year of experience or more. Hence we can't call them newbies anymore. They know whats up and they know bitcoin works in trends and they know if bitcoin prices start to go up they will buy some to catch the waves of a next bull and be part of it.

Do not make stuff up yourself and present it like it is proper data.

The next bull run is actually going to take many people and holders with surprise.  The way this market is behaving I think we are going to see some evidence of this bullish trend this year but the really bull run may start next year.

I do not know where you got that number but I agree, the majority of investors in crypto will not see the next bull market, in fact many of those that invested in the market at the end of 2017 are probably already out of the market and the only ones that remain are the ones that invested after the crash in 2018 and those that invested way before that time.

At first people must know before invest in something is keep to use money that we really not used. Even loss or hold or profit will be no matter for us. I am fully agree with your opinion because it is always said by people in this forum.

Do you mean 60% of cryptocurrencies is held by newbies or 60% of holders of cryptocurrencies are newbies? Whichever way, there is no way that verify that number and no tools with which to arrive at that inference. This post is just an opinion and there are no facts to it.

Actually depends on the trader himself, whether he is willing to wait for the right moment. Because traders usually have a lot of planning before actually selling or buying. Unless they are careless traders and want to take instant profits, I think they will go away.

It's true that most of new traders are in loss. Because of market conditions and their patience. Usually new traders will panic due to market volatility and they might loss patience. In a result they will sell on loss and may be leave trading. That's the reason they might miss next bull run. But we really don't know when it will happen. That's why I always tell, don't depend on online earning like trading or others platform. Keep your hob or business as main profession and don't sell on loss. Just hold until you got few profit.

In this case where the next movement is not known, not only new ones, but most investors lose. Even the holding is likely to lose (but in long-term profit rates can change). It may be good to move away from until the situation gonna be better, and move to other sides to trade.

First question.

Where did you get that 60% of crypto people are newbies? Well, theres no need to answer it up but we can really presume that majority
are those people who drooled when they saw that 2017 bull run. They believe that they would be getting rich in no time which in results
for doing all in with their money.

I cant really argue nor oppose that we might see even more a boring market of this year.If there are no news or fundamentals that would
spark up the entire market then we should expect the same situation on what we saw on 2018.

It seems that we already entered a long, boring bear market and the newbies may have already given up on their hopes of making it big. These are mostly the people who came in to the party when everything is at its highest, which absolutely isn't a good idea considering how steep the fall was. I can say that this is all the fault of mainstream media which covered the unbelievable rise day in, day out, luring the unknowing people that bitcoin is due to pop at any second. In the end, people are blaming bitcoin for its complete failure though the blame should always be in themselves as they haven't gauge whether this rise will still continue or not.

Anyhow, it seems that I'll be leaving the exchanges for another year or so, as I have completely halted buying and am just waiting for any development on the prices.

Actually I dont believe now in any technical/fundamentals indications they are talking about its not really helpful, No one can correctly predict what will happen in the crypto market this year like in 2017 no one anticipated a bull run it might happen after 2-3 years again or might happen in the next year 2020 this is pure speculation, those who will catch the bull run are those who buy coins in this bear market and continue holding until this day happens. 

I think we already lost too many investors over the year so if we are still losing means we are not going to see the future for cryptocurrencies but I don't think we are not losing investors since market already got stabled.

Patience is the only key to bear in the market, most of us lose some money and I know that it can make you feel bad but somehow we also need to realized that losing is part of this and it is one of the risky thing that we might experience in order to be successful. Its really sad that many of crypto holders choose to stop investing and I can't blame them so if you have some goal or objectives then you have to keep patient because it takes time and we all know that its worth the wait.

I kind of agree on this one with the newbie investors we have on the market, you can really tell on how the market booms last year. The market was hyped by new comers whose only to intention is to make profit in no time and this results to market great inflation. But assuming that new investors are 60% on the market is kind of miscalculation since every experienced trader knows also that market is expanding that time so putting more money would really give huge profit.

Love to see how you come up with the 60% of the investors being newbie, as I haven't seen any reading material about that. And from what I know the newbies who have entered last December 2017 have all cut their losses by now when they see that BTC started falling so what it seems to me is that the ones who are still left holding their BTC are the ones who have it before the bull run even started, so these newbies you are referring to have left the market a long time ago, maybe only a few of them are left. But really the only ones who are staying in the market right now are the ones who have faith with their investments.

it's true that in my opinion, like you, it depends on the merchant himself to use it, because if you are patient, waiting until the bull run market will definitely get a big profit, if the traders are careless and don't want to be patient, wait to get the desired profit That will never happen

Yep I wonder how he come up with the percentage. It he also said something that's an eye opener here. If you haven't dump all you had since the bull run, you must have regret by now. More than 120K USD worth of BTC is going get you calmer for 2 years til the market bounce back. If you have no funds right now, you'd have no option but to find a job to support yourself.

People who are long term investor will be a huge gainer in long term and this has being proven even in the stock market provided you have the right coins with you which will grow once the bull run begins which will lead to higher demand of that coin as well. So mostly short term investor or daily trader will lose out this opportunity if not stayed invested.

I do believe that there is no single coin which can guarantee us about its hikes even though there are big developments are on going. Current scenario is like "Crypto in Sleeping Pod". There is no way they are hiking whatsoever is the amount of investment. There are only two things, either you pile up what you believe in and/or you take a break from the crypto to go away with the flow.

How you can state "60% holders are newbies"? Are you got the information from a certain source or you did a research? Actually I agree if there are many newbies but I am not sure to determine the number or percentage.  ???


If they do panicking selling, then yes 60% will be burned. But since there are many suggestion to hold than to sell in decline cycle, I think newbies will consider holding as the best way. It is too early claiming if 11 months will burn those 60% out.     

Some trader and investor maybe thinking bull market will never come again and crypto is over, so they decided to sell in big loss and never again to enter to crypto market.  They decided it because afraid with more loss and finally they loss and can not recover it. 

The only things we can do if the bull run is not happening in this year is to keep patient and to wait for the time to comes. We don't know when the bull market will happen, but we know that we have a chance to make a profit in this year and that hope will bigger when the price can increase double than the last price. I don't know what will happen with the crypto market, but I still believe that the bull market will come to, no matter soon if it needs more than a year or less than a year to increase.

I agree on that! And before that happened, you have to keep in mind that you have to be ready losing. Here in trading, crypto or not, invest only if you can afford to lose it. And hey,  don't let your losses compound and keep listening to charts and news. Just a small advice to a small trader. ;)

There are some basic principles and rules that will make you successful trading regardless of what you trade. It doesn’t matter what you trade, it’s how you trade that makes you successful or not. Always follow your trading plan. Being lost = lost money. Listen to the stats, charts and other information, related or not, in your project. Keep learning everyday - study your wins and losses and never ever bet on something you can't afford to lose.

Not everyone will have that patience to HODL many have already sold at loss, the market is definitely not good and we keep hearing and hoping for the bull to come. In crypto patience is just the hallmark to everything.

Some traders and hodlers enthusiasm  towards cryptos had began to wane and showing lack of interest while selling off their portfolio at a loss the price of Cryptos had been red for a very long period  and quite a numbers of hodlers had sold off their Cryptos asset but their numbers are unquantified, as it is now as the price continues to drop many hodlers are jittery and scared however the market turning bullish will surely come to pass when any investors had already quit.

what surprising things might happen? Will the bull run begin this year and reach its peak next year?
I have read posts like this in the past year, as if they were very confident that a bull run would occur in Quarter 1 of this year, but what really happened? there is no sign of a bull run this year.

Its not that they can't catch the next bull run. As far as I know as long as you're  not selling your coins instead your holding it more, surely
you can recover you're loss were you think you've loss it but is not. Just be a bullish and not be impatience mate.

This is where you might be going wrong. There will be no technical tool available to predict the mentality of investors and traders like when they will start rushing towards buying bitcoin because just a positive news is more than enough to trigger them.

I do not need to say that technical analysis will get failed against news and events because news and events are the big factors which will be inducing sudden fluctuations and only fundamental things will win at the end of any sudden market conditions. This way we cannot predict what is going to happen in the second half of 2019.

when in January 2017 the price was  $800, nobody would imagine that in December 2017 the price would reach $20,000... Not even the greatest genius in the world would imagine that this would be possible. 2 years is a lot of time and it will be enough time to see a possible recovery of the price


Day trade makes profits, everything need to know is the right time to buy and the right time to sell.


I would tell people to take advantage of every price drop and buy more bitcoins and hold for the next 2 to 5 years

Accepting the current situation and worse means accepting the cryptocurrency and the road to the big profit goes through this. We all know that those who took risk in right time became the Bitcoin millionaire and the money deposited on time was probably not more than $1000. As you said, there is no indicator to describe the blooming of the market, but I can tell you that the day is not far away.

I agree with you that the Prices of Cryptocurrencies that made it through the bear market would survive. But where I don't agree with you, Is the fact where you talked about how the market would be at a standstill in the second half of 2019. I don't know if It's your personal opinion but if it is, then it is wrong. No one really knows the direction the market would be heading to in the months to come even though everyone is expecting a bull run anytime soon.