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Title: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: mosprognoz on February 08, 2019, 04:08:05 PM
One of my friends launched a project and of course the bounty campaign was started too. After checking statistic via google analytics I found out that traffic coming from  Twitter + Instagram + Facebook = less than 3 % of total traffic.. I decided to try scammers method myself. Here is what I did.

1. Bought Twitter account with 2 000 followers for $ 10 (https://accsmarket.com/en/catalog/twitter/boosted) I was sure that twitter Audit will be less than 50% because followers are mainly bots. But twitter audit showed 87% and that was more than enough to enter any bounty campaign here on bitcointalk.

2. Same thing with Instagram. Account with 5 000 followers for  $10

3. Same with Facebook account.

4. Bought BTK account (member) for $50 (A lot of Russian scammers are selling accounts in the Russian board called "Baraholka" ) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=236.0 Prices are starting from $10 for Jr account and $800 for Legendary.


Do not buy accounts from the sources that I mentioned, because it is illegal.

As you can see, I could enter any bounty campaign, having all accounts mentioned above.

I'm sure that more than 50% of bounty participants are using the same scam scheme, for cheating. All this means, that a lot of  bounty campaign participants are advertising your project to bots... How is it possible that you have about 1000 participants in each bounty campaign.(about 3 000 in total) and you get less than 3% of the traffic to your project website ? And registered users are less than 0.5% ??? I think it is much more better to allow only full members and above to participate in your campaign and even that will not guarantee you good results. Just 20-30 real account with real followers will do a much more better job.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: ankit10 on February 08, 2019, 04:46:12 PM
For your kind information buying forums account is not allowed and is considered as scam/spam. You can create multiple accounts but you can not use all accounts to join in one campaign.

Bounty campaigns are becoming useless because there are lots of scam project. And sometimes because of BOunty managers. Mostly "good" bounty managers check types of followers participants has.
When campaign asks users to retweet or share or tweet on any social media platform they use "#" like #Crypto. It means tweets are seen or target to crypto users only.
So now if any bounty manager is not checking followers of users or participants then its BM's fault. (they don't need to check all of them just a few of them).

For example, any campaign has 500 social media participants and all of them has 200 followers (average) and they publish 1 post per day and it was seen/impression by 500 people. 200x500= 100,000 impression each day. Now it depends on the project and "#" used.
Only interested people will click on links and open their website.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: ankit10 on February 08, 2019, 04:48:30 PM
4. Bought BTK account (member) for $50 (A lot of Russian scammers are selling accounts in the Russian board called "Baraholka" ) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=236.0 Prices are starting from $10 for Jr account and $800 for Legendary.
Just quoted if any user interested in finding those Bought accounts. You should report this to DT members they will surely
give red trust them and those who bought.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: mosprognoz on February 08, 2019, 04:56:32 PM
For your kind information buying forums account is not allowed and is considered as scam/spam. You can create multiple accounts but you can not use all accounts to join in one campaign.

Really? Thanks a lot for informing me... Dude, I am fighting scams almost two years on this forum, and I know the rules very well. I already warned people to do not buy accounts from the sources mentioned above, because it is illegal. Read the topic more carefully please.

Just quoted if any user interested in finding those Bought accounts. You should report this to DT members they will surely
give red trust them and those who bought.


Almost all account sellers in that board are already tagged. Thank you again for your "suggestions"

So now if any bounty manager is not checking followers of users or participants then its BM's fault.

It is impossible to check if around 1 million followers of bounty participants are real or not. As I mentioned even twitter audit could not determine bots in followers. That is the main problem which I would like to discuss here. Once again. Please read the topic more carefully.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: ovcijisir on February 08, 2019, 05:02:09 PM
One of my friends launched a project and of course the bounty campaign was started too. After checking statistic via google analytics I found out that traffic coming from  Twitter + Instagram + Facebook = less than 3 % of total traffic.. I decided to try scammers method myself. Here is what I did.

Did you measure the traffic from Bitcointalk?

Did your friend check the accounts that applied to campaign? I believe that bounty managers should be more selective about accepting people in campaigns.

I believe that accounts that have less then 90% of real users on Twitter can be considered low quality accounts.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: mosprognoz on February 08, 2019, 05:05:39 PM
One of my friends launched a project and of course the bounty campaign was started too. After checking statistic via google analytics I found out that traffic coming from  Twitter + Instagram + Facebook = less than 3 % of total traffic.. I decided to try scammers method myself. Here is what I did.

Did you measure the traffic from Bitcointalk?

Did your friend check the accounts that applied to campaign?

I believe that accounts that have less then 90% of real users on Twitter can be considered low quality accounts.

No, we checked the traffic from twitter, Facebook and Instagram. All together are less than 3% of the whole traffic. It was impossible to check almost 3 000 accounts of bounty participants. Some campaigns are accepting twitter audit that is not less than 85%.   


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: ovcijisir on February 08, 2019, 05:10:21 PM
The problem is that usually there is no selection of bounty candidates.

There are huge bot farms that spam useless junk posts and those accounts are getting the same payment as regular / high quality posters.

The impact of bounty campaigns would be bigger if there would be less bounty hunters that have high quality accounts that spread good and useful content.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: mosprognoz on February 08, 2019, 05:12:55 PM
The problem is that usually there is no selection of bounty candidates.

There are huge bot farms that spam useless junk posts and those accounts are getting the same payment as regular / high quality posters.

The impact of bounty campaigns would be bigger if there would be less bounty hunters that have high quality accounts that spread good and useful content.

That's what I'm talking about. Less bounty hunters, but with real followers that are interested in crypto is much more better choice. Merit is coming your way.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: ankit10 on February 08, 2019, 05:17:59 PM
The problem is that usually there is no selection of bounty candidates.

There are huge bot farms that spam useless junk posts and those accounts are getting the same payment as regular / high quality posters.

The impact of bounty campaigns would be bigger if there would be less bounty hunters that have high quality accounts that spread good and useful content.

That's what I'm talking about. Less bounty hunters, but with real followers that are interested in crypto is much more better choice. Merit is coming your way.
Still, bounty managers need to check followers of participants and maybe, mostly bounty managers like yahoo do.
They put requirements like minimum required followers which helps their campaigns too boost.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: ovcijisir on February 08, 2019, 05:21:14 PM
The problem is that usually there is no selection of bounty candidates.

There are huge bot farms that spam useless junk posts and those accounts are getting the same payment as regular / high quality posters.

The impact of bounty campaigns would be bigger if there would be less bounty hunters that have high quality accounts that spread good and useful content.

That's what I'm talking about. Less bounty hunters, but with real followers that are interested in crypto is much more better choice. Merit is coming your way.

Thanks

One more thing I wanted to share - just for you to grasp the scale of the problem look at this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3052935.msg33006318#msg33006318) thread. This address (https://etherscan.io/address/0x9617292336b588b5bb174c5e845455400d907471#tokentxns) gathered over 40000 $ worth of tokens (they sent out some tokens so its less now).

There are some addresses that gain huge profit in bounty campaigns and scammers won't stop until there is profit for them.

I think that bounty managers should have mutual black list of users and accounts and update it regularly.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: mosprognoz on February 08, 2019, 05:27:23 PM
The problem is that usually there is no selection of bounty candidates.

There are huge bot farms that spam useless junk posts and those accounts are getting the same payment as regular / high quality posters.

The impact of bounty campaigns would be bigger if there would be less bounty hunters that have high quality accounts that spread good and useful content.

That's what I'm talking about. Less bounty hunters, but with real followers that are interested in crypto is much more better choice. Merit is coming your way.
Still, bounty managers need to check followers of participants and maybe, mostly bounty managers like yahoo do.
They put requirements like minimum required followers which helps their campaigns too boost.


yahoo62278 is the best and highest paid bounty manager. Not everybody can afford such bounty manager. Anyway, the fact is that paid advertising on LinkedIn and other sources that are still allowing crypto advertising is much more better option I guess.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: mosprognoz on February 08, 2019, 05:30:04 PM
The problem is that usually there is no selection of bounty candidates.

There are huge bot farms that spam useless junk posts and those accounts are getting the same payment as regular / high quality posters.

The impact of bounty campaigns would be bigger if there would be less bounty hunters that have high quality accounts that spread good and useful content.

That's what I'm talking about. Less bounty hunters, but with real followers that are interested in crypto is much more better choice. Merit is coming your way.

Thanks

One more thing I wanted to share - just for you to grasp the scale of the problem look at this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3052935.msg33006318#msg33006318) thread. This address (https://etherscan.io/address/0x9617292336b588b5bb174c5e845455400d907471#tokentxns) gathered over 40000 $ worth of tokens (they sent out some tokens so its less now).

There are some addresses that gain huge profit in bounty campaigns and scammers won't stop until there is profit for them.

I think that bounty managers should have mutual black list of users and accounts and update it regularly.

Yes I know. Some dudes are making a lot of money by cheating bounty campaigns.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Patatas on February 08, 2019, 07:00:45 PM
One of my friends launched a project and of course the bounty campaign was started too. After checking statistic via google analytics I found out that traffic coming from  Twitter + Instagram + Facebook = less than 3 % of total traffic.. I decided to try scammers method myself. Here is what I did.
Doesn't that depend on how effectively your product is promoted on these platforms? I think the chances of your product getting marketed better is by using the sponsored adds.

I'm sure that more than 50% of bounty participants are using the same scam scheme, for cheating. All this means, that a lot of  bounty campaign participants are advertising your project to bots... How is it possible that you have about 1000 participants in each bounty campaign.(about 3 000 in total) and you get less than 3% of the traffic to your project website ? And registered users are less than 0.5% ??? I think it is much more better to allow only full members and above to participate in your campaign and even that will not guarantee you good results. Just 20-30 real account with real followers will do a much more better job.
You're right. There is no such thing as a legit bounty hunter. They simply can't survive from bounties if they just use one account for posting hence they all have a bot army to harness the profits. 90% of the bounty farmers are cheaters and human bots.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: mosprognoz on February 08, 2019, 07:40:19 PM
Doesn't that depend on how effectively your product is promoted on these platforms? I think the chances of your product getting marketed better is by using the sponsored adds.

I'm not sure if Facebook, Twitter and Instagram are still allowing sponsored adds that are related to crypto. As I know, all them including Google and YouTube banned crypto adds. Only LinkedIn, Qzone and Reddit are still OK with it I guess.



Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: stomachgrowls on February 08, 2019, 08:11:55 PM
Since this do talks about bounty campaigns then this would be appropriate to be moved on Altcoin discussions.What yah think?

Im not surprised with this thing since this do already happen when bounty era has started.There would be always a cheater who would done things
as long they do took advantage among others.Buying out accounts is part of that and thats why good and reputable managers should be considered
to handle out some bounty campaigns that do knows how to filter out things,it might not be perfect but somehow it can lessen up abusers.
For results or traffic, each marketing medium wont give you assurance to give positive outcomes.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Patatas on February 08, 2019, 08:33:06 PM
Doesn't that depend on how effectively your product is promoted on these platforms? I think the chances of your product getting marketed better is by using the sponsored adds.

I'm not sure if Facebook, Twitter and Instagram are still allowing sponsored adds that are related to crypto. As I know, all them including Google and YouTube banned crypto adds. Only LinkedIn, Qzone and Reddit are still OK with it I guess.


YouTube is allowing it for sure and so does Facebook as long as the product complies with their terms and conditions. Legit ICO's are still allowed I suppose but I don't know for sure. Reddit is okay with it because they make the least out of all the platforms through adds. It's crazy how facebook doesn't allow ICO adds but it's totally acceptable to share posts regarding the same.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: dropthebomb.io on February 09, 2019, 12:45:19 AM
So far according to our experience, YouTube's traffic is the best. Bounties... well yes. It will not make a big deal for a project.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: elda34b on February 09, 2019, 04:15:36 AM
I think ICO projects know it well and some of them maybe don't care about it at all. They don't give 'real money', just some tokens created out of nowhere. So there's no problem for them even if they give that to bots. But some project that I know of implement a very strict requirement, leaving a very small bounty hunter to get rewards after verification which is good, but not all project did this. Some of them even went as far as accepting plagiarized translation from Google translate. Bleh.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: nutildah on February 09, 2019, 09:37:18 AM
A while back I helped coordinate an ICO and I noticed the same thing:

- hardly any traffic being directed from social media, even less than what you saw
- upon inspection of the social media profiles, 100% of them used fake friend/followers/subscribers/etc
- the bounty campaign manager did an absurdly poor job with quality control and was probably in on trying to milk as many tokens as he could
- the blog posters was an absolute joke: every single one was just a copy/paste job from content on the website or in the white paper

I really don't understand why anybody uses bounty hunters any more. Of course they will insist they are of the utmost importance, but in reality they contribute very little. Needless to say I became even less impressed with the profession than I already was.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Yaunfitda on February 09, 2019, 10:56:22 AM
^^ Exactly. I really don't know when the bounty started with all this social media campaigns because I just know that signature campaigns was one of the most effective tools to market a project.

But it seems you really proves that bounty hunters doesn't have any significant effect to the campaigns and probably 90% are really cheating, using multiple accounts etc. And the OP exposed how the scam actual works so I don't know if ICO or projects can read this board but this should be a eye opener for them.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: semobo on February 09, 2019, 11:52:35 AM
Social media bounty campaigns right? Even if all the accounts were legit the chances of getting more traffic is minimum because what do you think about how many of your friends knkws about cryptos and hiw many of them want to invest money on new projects,it will be bery very less tho.That is why they are having low allocation in the total bounty pool.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: EdenHazard on February 09, 2019, 03:50:37 PM
Everyone will find many ways to get the profit he wants. They do not care about the risks that they will face, they only focus on their willingness and it is associated with capital issued. One side of this forum needs a cleanup, I mean it needs cleaning from some spammers, shitposter or those who have many alt accounts.

Indeed, every time this forum make a new rule is tightened and I think it will succeed in reducing the above problems, nonetheless they will never keep silent to find a way to deceive the new rules. I guess every bounty campaign manager must have a maximum limit for participants on each project, for example, he only limits 100 people per project, and for the participant who will be accept they should do a video call to monitor multiple accounts.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: manishanand on February 09, 2019, 03:55:34 PM
This is why my content rewards are taken by most of the scammers and also true bounty hunters feel the real pain when paid less rewards


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: St4yInTh3D4rk on February 09, 2019, 03:56:33 PM
Indeed, every time this forum make a new rule is tightened and I think it will succeed in reducing the above problems, nonetheless they will never keep silent to find a way to deceive the new rules. I guess every bounty campaign manager must have a maximum limit for participants on each project, for example, he only limits 100 people per project, and for the participant who will be accept they should do a video call to monitor multiple accounts.
Asking for video call doing bounties? Good idea to eliminate altaccounts but it is against the anonymity.

I don't think bounty managers will do that since they were doing bounties to get more exposure of the project so if they were limiting participants means the exposure will get reduced.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: arpon11 on February 09, 2019, 07:25:59 PM
If that is how people buy twitter followers in other to be able to participate in bounties campaigns then the projects owners will only have little benefits from the bounty.  I know of telegram bots and many followers can also be purchased through that.  I believe that this has affected icos market and maybe that is why some projects really lack funding.  Some of us that has been in this cryptocurrencies system for long are seeing the difference of then when bounty was bounty and now when good projects are not been able to rise funds for the development of the projects.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: nutildah on February 10, 2019, 04:32:52 AM
Asking for video call doing bounties? Good idea to eliminate altaccounts but it is against the anonymity.

I don't think bounty managers will do that since they were doing bounties to get more exposure of the project so if they were limiting participants means the exposure will get reduced.

In my experience bounty managers care about the outcome of an ICO just as much as a bounty hunter, which is not at all. They shoot themselves in the foot trying to milk "free" tokens out of it by doing as little actual work as possible, then get disappointed when the ICO is a failure and the tokens fail to achieve value. I hope the practice dies down soon.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: shoreno on February 10, 2019, 08:40:56 AM
In my experience bounty managers care about the outcome of an ICO just as much as a bounty hunter, which is not at all.

no i dont think so .  bounty manager is just like bounty hunter . they only both care about the money  . they even not care if the bounty is scam or not as long as they are being paid , its not really a big deal for them  .


They shoot themselves in the foot trying to milk "free" tokens out of it by doing as little actual work as possible, then get disappointed when the ICO is a failure and the tokens fail to achieve value. I hope the practice dies down soon.

little work huh ?  hell no . doing a bounty is not a piece of cake . its hard to post for 3 and more months without assurance if you will going to get paid or not .  thats the maine reason why they get angry if ever the project becames a failure


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: nutildah on February 10, 2019, 09:09:20 AM
In my experience bounty managers care about the outcome of an ICO just as much as a bounty hunter, which is not at all.

no i dont think so .  bounty manager is just like bounty hunter . they only both care about the money  . they even not care if the bounty is scam or not as long as they are being paid , its not really a big deal for them  .

That's exactly what I just said. Except I added that they only care about the money so much that they don't care if the ICO flops or not, which ironically effects their earnings.

They shoot themselves in the foot trying to milk "free" tokens out of it by doing as little actual work as possible, then get disappointed when the ICO is a failure and the tokens fail to achieve value. I hope the practice dies down soon.

little work huh ?  hell no . doing a bounty is not a piece of cake . its hard to post for 3 and more months without assurance if you will going to get paid or not .  thats the maine reason why they get angry if ever the project becames a failure

Don't post then. Nobody will miss you. You're only clogging up the forum with spam that nobody wants to see. There's a reason why you haven't earned a single merit since the introduction of the merit system.

Your name also sounds suspiciously like that of a well-respected member (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=181801) of this forum.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on February 10, 2019, 11:03:24 AM
I think it is much more better to allow only full members and above to participate in your campaign

When it comes to altcoin bounty campaign I disagree with this suggestion but if it was for paid Bitcoin signatures the n the suggestion is ok and I believe most bounty managers are already using this method.

Restricting altcoin bounty signature participation to full member above will increase the rate of account and merit farming on the forum which will also increase the level of spam therefore it isn't the Best solution to this problem.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: St4yInTh3D4rk on February 10, 2019, 03:07:55 PM
Asking for video call doing bounties? Good idea to eliminate altaccounts but it is against the anonymity.

I don't think bounty managers will do that since they were doing bounties to get more exposure of the project so if they were limiting participants means the exposure will get reduced.

In my experience bounty managers care about the outcome of an ICO just as much as a bounty hunter, which is not at all. They shoot themselves in the foot trying to milk "free" tokens out of it by doing as little actual work as possible, then get disappointed when the ICO is a failure and the tokens fail to achieve value. I hope the practice dies down soon.
Most of the bounties were managed by the project name itself which causes more spam on this forum since later 2017.So they will look for quantity only since they are doing it for making money that is why our forum need to have some guidelines if they want to manage bounties and it should be moderator and havily punished if the rules are broken by them which can kill spam and alt accounts.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: coinlocket$ on February 10, 2019, 04:55:52 PM
The main problem is the bounty manager most of them, not all of them, don't even spend 1 second to check accounts or reports why? because more participants you can guarantee for bounties more money they will get as payment.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: ankit10 on February 10, 2019, 05:02:20 PM
The main problem is the bounty manager most of them, not all of them, don't even spend 1 second to check accounts or reports why? because more participants you can guarantee for bounties more money they will get as payment.
That's the point. You are right. Even they don't care about participants payment. Bounty participants have to wait for months and sometimes year but no payment.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: nutildah on February 10, 2019, 05:13:43 PM
The main problem is the bounty manager most of them, not all of them, don't even spend 1 second to check accounts or reports why? because more participants you can guarantee for bounties more money they will get as payment.

Ironically they are also contributing to the ICO's downfall, just blindly hoping it will succeed. The whole culture needs to come to a stop, and I'm surprised that economic necessity hasn't already dictated this. Even though I am a sig campaigner (pays in BTC mind you), I almost never, ever click on a signature. Maybe like 3-4 times a YEAR. And out of those 4, maybe 1 is an ICO.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Darklinkz on February 11, 2019, 06:43:24 AM
I don't think it's useless because your friend did not realized that he is launching his marketing on a bear period. If you only launch the same campaignback in 2017 then you will get favorable results. But I don't agree that social media is all bots because just think about that at least one  influential twitter account that joined that has thousands of real followers then that is already more than enough.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: ovcijisir on February 12, 2019, 07:26:11 PM
The main problem is the bounty manager most of them, not all of them, don't even spend 1 second to check accounts or reports why? because more participants you can guarantee for bounties more money they will get as payment.

Ironically they are also contributing to the ICO's downfall, just blindly hoping it will succeed. The whole culture needs to come to a stop, and I'm surprised that economic necessity hasn't already dictated this.
The more signature bounty spammers -> the less effective marketing campaign will be -> the less chance the project will get sufficient funding.

The more quality poster bounty hunters -> project gets more visibility and exposure -> the greater chance that project will recieve enough funding.

The only difference and the main responsibility how much spam or quality bounty hunters will be on campaign is on bounty manager.

Also bounty manager is responsible for due dilligence, to check if the project is scam before he/she accepts to manage a bounty.

The only way that I can predict that bounties will survive is that bounty manager gains good reputation of accepting and managing good camapigns and exposing scam projects. Bounty managers like that can have list of good bounty hunters who proved themselves by writing quality posts and give them priority when boarding bounty hunters in new campaign.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: KryptoKai on March 09, 2019, 11:30:28 PM
Almost all ICO's follow the same pattern, it's as if they have the same template for their websites and social media. Makes it more difficult to differentiate the good projects from the bad


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: milewilda on March 10, 2019, 06:35:17 PM
Almost all ICO's follow the same pattern, it's as if they have the same template for their websites and social media. Makes it more difficult to differentiate the good projects from the bad
Most of them do really have that similarities when it comes to pattern due to common creator of designs and banners, so it cant really be avoided and also
legitimacy wont only rely on design but also on the team behind.Finding the best one is just like finding a needle on a haystack considering on lots of scam projects on the market
you would really hardly see the best one.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Ojengonggu on March 10, 2019, 09:11:24 PM
Almost all ICO's follow the same pattern, it's as if they have the same template for their websites and social media. Makes it more difficult to differentiate the good projects from the bad
Most of them do really have that similarities when it comes to pattern due to common creator of designs and banners, so it cant really be avoided and also
legitimacy wont only rely on design but also on the team behind.Finding the best one is just like finding a needle on a haystack considering on lots of scam projects on the market
you would really hardly see the best one.
in essence we have to be careful because projects that are real and fraudulent are very equal and we only depend on the team and the development of the project is clear to distinguish not just seeing ideas and their appearance


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Little Mouse on March 10, 2019, 09:18:17 PM
You are right. Noone get visitors from those facebook, twitter or bitcointalk but you know people feel good when they see you have an active facebook page or active twitter account. That's why ICO owner do that. Nothing else.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: smyslov on March 11, 2019, 05:13:36 AM
^^ Exactly. I really don't know when the bounty started with all this social media campaigns because I just know that signature campaigns was one of the most effective tools to market a project.

But it seems you really proves that bounty hunters doesn't have any significant effect to the campaigns and probably 90% are really cheating, using multiple accounts etc. And the OP exposed how the scam actual works so I don't know if ICO or projects can read this board but this should be a eye opener for them.

I agree signature campaign is the only campaign worth creating this is the reason it has more allocation than the other bounty and will give good results successful projects employ signature campaign to boost their project


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: quality.crypto on March 11, 2019, 05:53:50 AM
Yes, you are right but there are many companies have some potential towards their developments, that's why many people suggest the bounty hunters research before joining any bounty, one thing i can understand from the bounty hunters is that they don't have proper facilities to research about the company.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: bonker on March 11, 2019, 09:18:11 AM
Even new projects are getting worthless so what will bounty can effect on the prices.

Most of the bounty managers won't care about the quality of their bounty participants which causing spams everywhere so it needs to be changed before the next bull run to ring the effectiveness to bitcointalk advertising.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: btcmegastar on March 12, 2019, 05:49:22 AM
Even new projects are getting worthless so what will bounty can effect on the prices.

Most of the bounty managers won't care about the quality of their bounty participants which causing spams everywhere so it needs to be changed before the next bull run to ring the effectiveness to bitcointalk advertising.

It is impossible to find before their crowd sales because everything seems to be very good at the beginning of their crowd sales. So Bounty managers are doing their best to find the best project but the team is cheating the people by not developing the project. So we need to be very careful with the bounty campaigns.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: masterrex on March 12, 2019, 02:59:34 PM
One of my friends launched a project and of course the bounty campaign was started too. After checking statistic via google analytics I found out that traffic coming from  Twitter + Instagram + Facebook = less than 3 % of total traffic.. I decided to try scammers method myself. Here is what I did.

1. Bought Twitter account with 2 000 followers for $ 10 (https://accsmarket.com/en/catalog/twitter/boosted) I was sure that twitter Audit will be less than 50% because followers are mainly bots. But twitter audit showed 87% and that was more than enough to enter any bounty campaign here on bitcointalk.

2. Same thing with Instagram. Account with 5 000 followers for  $10

3. Same with Facebook account.

4. Bought BTK account (member) for $50 (A lot of Russian scammers are selling accounts in the Russian board called "Baraholka" ) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=236.0 Prices are starting from $10 for Jr account and $800 for Legendary.


Do not buy accounts from the sources that I mentioned, because it is illegal.

As you can see, I could enter any bounty campaign, having all accounts mentioned above.

I'm sure that more than 50% of bounty participants are using the same scam scheme, for cheating. All this means, that a lot of  bounty campaign participants are advertising your project to bots... How is it possible that you have about 1000 participants in each bounty campaign.(about 3 000 in total) and you get less than 3% of the traffic to your project website ? And registered users are less than 0.5% ??? I think it is much more better to allow only full members and above to participate in your campaign and even that will not guarantee you good results. Just 20-30 real account with real followers will do a much more better job.
I Agree in some points of your Thread But I disagree with the Title its Negative in form. But in some point you are right lots of scammers are joining the Bounties with multiple accounts they are taking advantage of the Bounty programs.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Flangler on March 23, 2019, 03:18:24 PM
Don't know about twitter and facebook campaigns, but BTT signature and translation bounties can be useful. I have discovered many great projects because of bitcointalk Signatures. Creative bounty(infographics, fanart etc.) or Youtube bounty also can be useful sometimes, hearing the most important info about project you want to invest in your native language can clarify some doubts .  So I do not agree with you good bounty manage by reliable bounty manager is useful.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: pealr12 on March 23, 2019, 03:26:46 PM
Im starting to leave the life of bounty hunting, every campaign that i joined in for the last 8 months i never made even 100$. I am losing hope  because of those scam icos.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: xsantana on March 24, 2019, 11:07:18 AM
for social media campaigns now is not good, there are many jobs that I follow, and there are no results, campaign rules are increasingly complicated, not in accordance with the results obtained.
now a lot of fraud is irresponsible


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: shoreno on March 24, 2019, 12:13:18 PM
for social media campaigns now is not good, there are many jobs that I follow, and there are no results

not only on social media campaign but to the whole bounty campaign as a whole  . with the increasing number of ico frauds , bounty campaigns are also affected with it  . you are lucky if you can still find a bounty that is legit  . nowadays  , bounty hunters will not really care if the coins that the  will be recieving is profitable or not but as long as it has a value or it is already listed they can now be happy and contented with it  .


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: bonker on March 24, 2019, 01:21:12 PM
Even new projects are getting worthless so what will bounty can effect on the prices.

Most of the bounty managers won't care about the quality of their bounty participants which causing spams everywhere so it needs to be changed before the next bull run to ring the effectiveness to bitcointalk advertising.

It is impossible to find before their crowd sales because everything seems to be very good at the beginning of their crowd sales. So Bounty managers are doing their best to find the best project but the team is cheating the people by not developing the project. So we need to be very careful with the bounty campaigns.
When team is legit but they are scamming people means then there is no point on blaming the campaign manager but when a project team created with fake profile means it can be identified by the manager if he can do enough research on it.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Caladonian on March 24, 2019, 03:49:35 PM
for social media campaigns now is not good, there are many jobs that I follow, and there are no results

not only on social media campaign but to the whole bounty campaign as a whole  . with the increasing number of ico frauds , bounty campaigns are also affected with it  . you are lucky if you can still find a bounty that is legit  . nowadays  , bounty hunters will not really care if the coins that the  will be recieving is profitable or not but as long as it has a value or it is already listed they can now be happy and contented with it  .
Sadly right, bounty hunters is no longer interested with development, as long as they seen some value for their rewards they will sell it out without any wait, it's important for them to have some profits than being sorry waiting for nothing, it's a tough pick being lucky to have a bounty project that will deliver with a  lots of incident making icos a scammed business.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: tukagero on March 24, 2019, 04:12:54 PM
Bounty becoming useless because the rate of icos that ending up into scam is increasing. No wonder why few bounty hunters are already quitting on thier job.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Asatur on March 24, 2019, 04:58:54 PM
Unfortunately you are right. Given the number of Scam projects and the low cost of many tokens, the time spent in Bounty could be spent on something else.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Flickkk on March 26, 2019, 06:35:17 AM
Im starting to leave the life of bounty hunting, every campaign that i joined in for the last 8 months i never made even 100$. I am losing hope  because of those scam icos.
Bounty campaigns are nowadays are not that promissing because as you can see almost every crypto currencies are now at their lowest price, that makes evey bounty hunters to loss hope and loss their profit at an instant. As of my experience i would say that there are several cause of these crptocurrencies drop and these are
Popularity- the popularity attracts many people to take interest on it and also are attracts scammers to take advantage of it.
Scammers- having to much scammers ,scamming plenty of users makes the investors to have there negative impression and are avoid investing.
Goverment - being popular as as crytocurrencies and are not a fiat currency, by these way goverment would be alert and  try to regulate the price of it in order to maintain some economic issues.
And by these issues plenty of people will no longer invest nd buy any of these cryptocurrencies that results price drops.
And etc.



Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: zhekinsp on March 26, 2019, 08:09:16 AM
Bounty becoming useless because the rate of icos that ending up into scam is increasing. No wonder why few bounty hunters are already quitting on thier job.
Its not a job,so we don't have to call the people quitting their bounty hunting job.It is the real fact most of the people are making nothing from bounty hunting so better to use the other crypto earning ideas to make money rather than wasting lot of time on doing it again.If all the bounty hunters stop doing bounty hunting then we may see more bitcoin signature campaigns as well.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: dark08 on March 26, 2019, 01:32:19 PM
It sad to think that bounty campaign is becoming useless but this is true day by day more project are being launched in bitcointalk and most of them are useless no real intension to create product and in the end its turn to scam thats why most bountu hunter are quiting to promote their project.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: ifykiki on March 26, 2019, 03:25:32 PM
This is the sad truth, hunters go to extreme lengths in various bounty campaigns and come out with stipends. Makes me wonder that if there are no bounty hunters, how would information spread very fast? It therefore means that bounty hunters are very important to this economy and should be treated right


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Arkham Knight on March 26, 2019, 04:06:39 PM
Your post is somehow going into reality. Not because of scams and they don't contribute much success anymore but because of the new IEO hype. I'm expecting that in the future, the mindset of investors will think that ICO projects here much more likely to be a scam and then we bounty hunters will dump the token so they will totally avoid it and will only consider on IEO.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Lanatsa on March 26, 2019, 07:16:50 PM
It sad to think that bounty campaign is becoming useless but this is true day by day more project are being launched in bitcointalk and most of them are useless no real intension to create product and in the end its turn to scam thats why most bountu hunter are quiting to promote their project.
Normal for bounty hunters to do such thing and if we compared the numbers into previous years then it do really go down drastically but still
there are a few who do remain keep on advertising those non sure projects for the sake of possible money making with not much work.

It is already useless nowadays and i wont be surprised that one day that no bounty hunters will tend to join up their bounty program.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: lepbagong on March 27, 2019, 04:45:25 AM
Bounty becoming useless because the rate of icos that ending up into scam is increasing. No wonder why few bounty hunters are already quitting on thier job.
Now with a sluggish market situation, events like ico that end in fraud are very much happening. indeed, very deep research is needed if you don't want to be fooled by this. but sometimes the goal really does not want fraud to occur because investors do not meet the minimum requirements resulting in also being affected in the direction of becoming a scam.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: panpine on March 27, 2019, 01:53:29 PM
It's awful to have lots of people cheating bonus campaigns. We cannot have fairness in bounty campaigns. How ?s


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: onecall123 on March 27, 2019, 02:24:58 PM
As you have referenced bounty campaign is turning out absolutely useless then join with multiple accounts totally void. In prior days, I eared quite good amount using Bounty campaign, but after facing lots of scam project I simply give up this place. If this tradition goes on bounty campaign, neither work for the project owner nor the participants.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: klaaas on March 28, 2019, 02:04:14 PM
Punishments are hard by most bounty managers and the bar to join them will be higher and tougher when more cheaters get into play.
Sure it will happen but i doubt that a legend for that amount would have the intent to join bounty campaigns to get fast profits.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: yohananaomi on March 28, 2019, 06:50:50 PM
I agree that many who take action are not visited by buying an account that has unclear ownership and activities, but this is difficult to prevent.
but I believe there are still many who can be relied upon by giving the best from the account they made from the beginning as possible. so I believe that and there is no need to fear that all do not do good.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: ruthbabe on March 29, 2019, 05:35:40 AM
for social media campaigns now is not good, there are many jobs that I follow, and there are no results

not only on social media campaign but to the whole bounty campaign as a whole  . with the increasing number of ico frauds , bounty campaigns are also affected with it  . you are lucky if you can still find a bounty that is legit  . nowadays  , bounty hunters will not really care if the coins that the  will be recieving is profitable or not but as long as it has a value or it is already listed they can now be happy and contented with it  .

I guess that the original bounty campaign in this forum is the Signature Campaign, and the social media campaign was adopted only during the birth of altcoins, not sure really. I just based my assumption on this thread, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0 take a look at how they controlled or limit the number of participants. And so, if this system used by the campaign projects and/or the campaign managers can be duplicated in altcoins bounties I think the problems would become lesser.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on March 29, 2019, 07:56:35 AM
Im starting to leave the life of bounty hunting, every campaign that i joined in for the last 8 months i never made even 100$. I am losing hope  because of those scam icos.
Unless you join in the signature campaign that paid with bitcoin, most likely you will earn $100 per week with your rank. I don't even know bounty campaign is really worth to join at this time especially when the prices cryptocurrency fall since 2018 ago. Moreover with the project scam are the part you have to consider, fortunately you won't be paid but if you still promoting the project scam you will get red trust from DT member.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Asatur on April 05, 2019, 05:24:31 AM
A lot of people who break the bankrupt simply by copying other people's work and passing it off as their own. Some managers may see scammers. And if the Bounty manager has no experience, then the fraudster gets a big reward.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: xclusiveguy on April 20, 2019, 04:37:40 PM
Firstly I think the number of participants had increased immensely so thereby reducing the reward abundantly, and again we are in bearish season lots of projects gives out just pennies because they don't reach soft or hard cap


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Ailmand on April 20, 2019, 06:39:32 PM
That has a negative effect on every Ico because spammers could not reach the quality of work that they needed to get endorsed. The number of participants is also increasing. Huge but fake number of followers would not help as well. That's the reason why bounty projects must choose legit participants.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: FistBump on April 20, 2019, 08:42:10 PM
long ago the ppl hasnt take the comunity aspect as work..
but sounds for me that in the past the ppl directly
want big money out of nothing


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: janggernaut on April 21, 2019, 08:33:41 AM
Firstly I think the number of participants had increased immensely so thereby reducing the reward abundantly, and again we are in bearish season lots of projects gives out just pennies because they don't reach soft or hard cap
Many project turned scam and also some even don't want to pay bounty to their participants with token lock or something like that (i'm also the one who doesn't got paid until now).

It's awful to have lots of people cheating bonus campaigns. We cannot have fairness in bounty campaigns. How ?s
Tell and report those cheaters to their campaign manager. How does it?


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Mr.Good on April 21, 2019, 10:29:11 AM
It has long been known that many scammers are involved in social bounty companies.
I do not care. For pennies that pay there, I do not participate in social companies.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: OculusMan on April 21, 2019, 04:05:57 PM
It has long been known that many scammers are involved in social bounty companies.
I do not care. For pennies that pay there, I do not participate in social companies.

Earlier in social networks was possible to earn not less than $ 1000 but now the times have changed and the maximum that it is possible to earn is hemorrhoids


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Mr.Good on April 21, 2019, 04:53:05 PM
It has long been known that many scammers are involved in social bounty companies.
I do not care. For pennies that pay there, I do not participate in social companies.

Earlier in social networks was possible to earn not less than $ 1000 but now the times have changed and the maximum that it is possible to earn is hemorrhoids

This is how many social campaigns need to participate simultaneously to get up to $ 1000 for them?
I really do not remember such earnings.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: bitcoindusts on April 21, 2019, 05:27:02 PM
I’m not saying that you are wrong totally but I think it is not fair to that kind of conclusion since not all social media bounty campaigns participants are using bought accounts. Mine is organic both twitter and Facebook and it took me years to grow my followers in both social medias, not as much followers as you’ve mentioned above though but I don’t think if not be avoided I have bot followers.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Skarner21 on April 21, 2019, 05:56:26 PM
I think their main purposes of using social medias is to rank up only in search engine like google and bing.
In my experience in marketing if you wan to rank up your website like in google you need more signals from twitter, FB, instagram and any social media the more people mention your website or project you are gaining authority that might boost your rankings in google or any search engine.

If it happens the project or the website might rankup and it may pass the other crypto related competitors in google rankings that related in crypto.

Honestly, SEO marketing out there in social media will boost your site traffic. Much better to try it make your own website and find someone to promote your website through social media accounts but make sure that they have different IP's because it may ignore those accounts from adding it as a real user so if they have different IP they are fine.

So for me it's not really useless you will see the result after few months this is SEO strategy that until now working as of now based on my experienced I am not promoting any ICO project but I'm promoting some product and affiliate links before.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: bonker on April 21, 2019, 06:38:27 PM
That has a negative effect on every Ico because spammers could not reach the quality of work that they needed to get endorsed. The number of participants is also increasing. Huge but fake number of followers would not help as well. That's the reason why bounty projects must choose legit participants.
Projects doesn't care about the quality all they were looking for is more exposure about the project that is why they allow more and more people to join on their projects and talk about their project on different platforms as much as they can.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: shoreno on April 21, 2019, 07:30:17 PM
That has a negative effect on every Ico because spammers could not reach the quality of work that they needed to get endorsed. The number of participants is also increasing. Huge but fake number of followers would not help as well. That's the reason why bounty projects must choose legit participants.
Projects doesn't care about the quality all they were looking for is more exposure about the project that is why they allow more and more people to join on their projects and talk about their project on different platforms as much as they can.

good project/campaign will choose thier participants wisely because this gives them an impact  . this affects thier reputation  .   choosing the best candidate for your campaign can guarantee you a better results such as wider exposure and more site traffic than compare to poor quality of participants  . the title of this thread is correct that bounty campaigns are now becoming useless because bounties nowdays are not really profitable anymore  .


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: OculusMan on April 22, 2019, 07:28:41 AM
It has long been known that many scammers are involved in social bounty companies.
I do not care. For pennies that pay there, I do not participate in social companies.

Earlier in social networks was possible to earn not less than $ 1000 but now the times have changed and the maximum that it is possible to earn is hemorrhoids

This is how many social campaigns need to participate simultaneously to get up to $ 1000 for them?
I really do not remember such earnings.

Well, actually I had several accounts in Twitter but with 1 account happened out such a good amount, so it's all real


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Mr.Good on April 22, 2019, 09:56:13 AM
It has long been known that many scammers are involved in social bounty companies.
I do not care. For pennies that pay there, I do not participate in social companies.

Earlier in social networks was possible to earn not less than $ 1000 but now the times have changed and the maximum that it is possible to earn is hemorrhoids

This is how many social campaigns need to participate simultaneously to get up to $ 1000 for them?
I really do not remember such earnings.

Well, actually I had several accounts in Twitter but with 1 account happened out such a good amount, so it's all real

Today, one can only dream of such a salary in social companies.
I believe that with these weekly reports and the final award, it is better not to go to the bounty company on social networks at all.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: bitcoinisbest on April 22, 2019, 11:56:25 AM
As you have referenced bounty campaign is turning out absolutely useless then join with multiple accounts totally void. In prior days, I eared quite good amount using Bounty campaign, but after facing lots of scam project I simply give up this place. If this tradition goes on bounty campaign, neither work for the project owner nor the participants.

The coin itself is not really worth investing this days or the future looks dull due to which may of the projects are failing or coin also does not get listed at times. People have lost their money and now want to stay away from it.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: vango777 on April 25, 2019, 07:52:17 PM
I have been following your discussion in order to help me with a bounty program I am preparing to launch. I would like to know your opinion about how you would structure the ideal bounty program? Would the bounty manager be a part of the integral project team with little bounty experience or a legendary bounty manager? Would you focus more on Telegram / Reddit or Bitcointalk signatures? Limiting the number of participants and seniority has its advantages but what else would you recommend?

thank you in advance for your feedback.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: 96InnIvanova on April 30, 2019, 05:28:21 PM
Hey guys, I suggest you take part in a cool bounty from the Gexan project!
NO KYC! Payments monthly! The GEX coin is being traded on the exchange!
Bounty started yesterday and will run until June 30th.
May 10, 2019 Gexan project will hold IEO on the exchange, which is included in the top 25 Coinmarketcap. Thus, by the end of the award, the GEX coin will be sold on exchanges.
This is a very cool offer!
Sign up for a reward in the bounty thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136521
link to ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136520
Web-wallet Gexan: http://lottery.gexan.io/
Web site: http://gexan.io/


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: futureofeth on May 01, 2019, 05:41:46 AM
Hey guys, I suggest you take part in a cool bounty from the Gexan project!
NO KYC! Payments monthly! The GEX coin is being traded on the exchange!
Bounty started yesterday and will run until June 30th.
May 10, 2019 Gexan project will hold IEO on the exchange, which is included in the top 25 Coinmarketcap. Thus, by the end of the award, the GEX coin will be sold on exchanges.
This is a very cool offer!
Sign up for a reward in the bounty thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136521
link to ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136520
Web-wallet Gexan: http://lottery.gexan.io/
Web site: http://gexan.io/

You said that coin is being traded on the exchanges in which exchange the coin is traded can you share the details with the community? I don't find anything new in this project because why should community show interest towards your project already there are many lottery websites where they are happily making with those websites and why should they concentrate on your project?


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: legendster on May 02, 2019, 03:46:25 PM
You said that coin is being traded on the exchanges in which exchange the coin is traded can you share the details with the community? I don't find anything new in this project because why should community show interest towards your project already there are many lottery websites where they are happily making with those websites and why should they concentrate on your project?

Can we stay on topic please? Its not if we havent had too much shit posting here already.

But yeah, to answer OP, yes bounty campaigns are becoming shit because more and more shit project are turning up. People are joining shit campaigns in hopes that those shitcoins would suddenly spike in value someday and they'd dump their coins.
People need to understand, its not 2017 anymore.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: jvdp on May 02, 2019, 07:15:59 PM
You said that coin is being traded on the exchanges in which exchange the coin is traded can you share the details with the community? I don't find anything new in this project because why should community show interest towards your project already there are many lottery websites where they are happily making with those websites and why should they concentrate on your project?

Can we stay on topic please? Its not if we havent had too much shit posting here already.

But yeah, to answer OP, yes bounty campaigns are becoming shit because more and more shit project are turning up. People are joining shit campaigns in hopes that those shitcoins would suddenly spike in value someday and they'd dump their coins.
People need to understand, its not 2017 anymore.

There are good potential projects even though this is not 2017. We need to give attention to value the ICO whether is worthy to participate or for investing to make money. Many new IEO launchpad is been emerging everyday.
That will captalize the complete crypto market. I am not sure whether the ICO have the market or it will be erased completely.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: adamwong on August 31, 2020, 11:51:47 AM
One of my friends launched a project and of course the bounty campaign was started too. After checking statistic via google analytics I found out that traffic coming from  Twitter + Instagram + Facebook = less than 3 % of total traffic.. I decided to try scammers method myself. Here is what I did.

1. Bought Twitter account with 2 000 followers for $ 10 (https://accsmarket.com/en/catalog/twitter/boosted) I was sure that twitter Audit will be less than 50% because followers are mainly bots. But twitter audit showed 87% and that was more than enough to enter any bounty campaign here on bitcointalk.

2. Same thing with Instagram. Account with 5 000 followers for  $10

3. Same with Facebook account.

4. Bought BTK account (member) for $50 (A lot of Russian scammers are selling accounts in the Russian board called "Baraholka" ) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=236.0 Prices are starting from $10 for Jr account and $800 for Legendary.


Do not buy accounts from the sources that I mentioned, because it is illegal.

As you can see, I could enter any bounty campaign, having all accounts mentioned above.

I'm sure that more than 50% of bounty participants are using the same scam scheme, for cheating. All this means, that a lot of  bounty campaign participants are advertising your project to bots... How is it possible that you have about 1000 participants in each bounty campaign.(about 3 000 in total) and you get less than 3% of the traffic to your project website ? And registered users are less than 0.5% ??? I think it is much more better to allow only full members and above to participate in your campaign and even that will not guarantee you good results. Just 20-30 real account with real followers will do a much more better job.

i know this is old
but i tried to check it as well so I tried to go to the website you mentioned, it is offline?
i checked similar website,
htpps://woorke.com and https://buycheapaccounts.com

do you think its safe to buy accounts? i don't want to give my credit card details. sorry to ask you here , i can't pm yet, i registered just to ask you this. thank you


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: btcltcdigger on August 31, 2020, 02:37:47 PM
One of my friends launched a project and of course the bounty campaign was started too. After checking statistic via google analytics I found out that traffic coming from  Twitter + Instagram + Facebook = less than 3 % of total traffic.. I decided to try scammers method myself. Here is what I did.

1. Bought Twitter account with 2 000 followers for $ 10 (https://accsmarket.com/en/catalog/twitter/boosted) I was sure that twitter Audit will be less than 50% because followers are mainly bots. But twitter audit showed 87% and that was more than enough to enter any bounty campaign here on bitcointalk.

2. Same thing with Instagram. Account with 5 000 followers for  $10

3. Same with Facebook account.

4. Bought BTK account (member) for $50 (A lot of Russian scammers are selling accounts in the Russian board called "Baraholka" ) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=236.0 Prices are starting from $10 for Jr account and $800 for Legendary.


Do not buy accounts from the sources that I mentioned, because it is illegal.

As you can see, I could enter any bounty campaign, having all accounts mentioned above.

I'm sure that more than 50% of bounty participants are using the same scam scheme, for cheating. All this means, that a lot of  bounty campaign participants are advertising your project to bots... How is it possible that you have about 1000 participants in each bounty campaign.(about 3 000 in total) and you get less than 3% of the traffic to your project website ? And registered users are less than 0.5% ??? I think it is much more better to allow only full members and above to participate in your campaign and even that will not guarantee you good results. Just 20-30 real account with real followers will do a much more better job.

I've been preaching this ever since i started running my first bounty.
Social media bounty ,except for maybe increasing number of followers, is useless. Even the 15k+ twitter accounts have less than 10 people actually viewing what they posted.
That's why i always valued article and video campaigns more, where someone has to put a real effort, and not just farm followers on million of such sites


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: pealr12 on September 04, 2020, 11:06:19 AM
For me bounty still worth it, it is only useless when you joined the wrong one,better to have a little knowledge on the campaign you are joining. As long as the campaign is legit and has a working product, does not matter if  you. wait for months for the reward, just have patience.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: nutildah on September 07, 2020, 06:58:07 AM
You can say that but as long as the Chipmixer campaign exists , It is not true, You can get there by being good, no matter how many accounts come every day, no matter how many people buy or sell it , if you are good, getting some noticeable merits, you can be part of good bounties, you can be moderator, or even rent your signature, so stop blaming everything else but you and grow better.

Bruh. You didn't even read anything. First of all, the ChipMixer campaign isn't a bounty, that's a signature campaign. They are completely different things. Second of all, you are replying to a post written over a year and a half ago like it was just written yesterday. Things have changed quite a bit since then.

The OP made a great point initially which is that (back then) bounty hunters contribute very, very little to the overall success of an ICO. Anybody can cheaply fudge having a great-looking account and drive zero actual traffic to the ICO website.

And look at what you're doing... using a bought account to support the newest McAfee scam... People like you have absolutely no ethics and basically just take giant shits on the forum for the sake of raking in a few worthless tokens.

Get lost.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: vaultman on September 07, 2020, 08:53:20 PM
For this reason, I do not participate in social media campaigns. I also think that campaign managers need to raise the level of requirements to participate in such campaigns in order to avoid a huge number of useless participants.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: manfredmann on October 10, 2020, 12:54:41 AM
It is not only becoming but it is already useless if a bounty hunter are looking for profit. Since there are too many bounty hunters in the forum these will result on not getting enough profit and aside from that there are many scam projects that has been introduce in the forum. I have already seen some users that are already stating about it but the forum does not wanting to change the way members are treating the forum as a place for scamming. Sad to say that this forum was created intended for cryptocurrency learning and not for scamming. How could they let this happen?

Anyway, I had seen some users already making a combat on this scam users and are already reporting them to the admin. Somehow the forum no is in the transition of eradicating or minimizing the scam activities by using other users that are willing to help in reporting them for the DT to tag them with red Trust.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: AthenaBanana on October 10, 2020, 02:02:42 AM
I know its being useless and the rewards are getting smaller and smaller the other bounty I receive 2.49$ for a 12 week of work 😂 but I never stop believing in bounties maybe someday I will hit the jackpot ;D


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: pallang on October 10, 2020, 01:18:23 PM
For this reason, I do not participate in social media campaigns. I also think that campaign managers need to raise the level of requirements to participate in such campaigns in order to avoid a huge number of useless participants.
Even i never tried to join on social bounty because at the end you will only get little amount its because of the huge amount of participants who joined on social media bounties.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Quidat on October 10, 2020, 09:59:23 PM
For this reason, I do not participate in social media campaigns. I also think that campaign managers need to raise the level of requirements to participate in such campaigns in order to avoid a huge number of useless participants.
Even i never tried to join on social bounty because at the end you will only get little amount its because of the huge amount of participants who joined on social media bounties.
One of the reasons why people do end up on getting some peanuts due to lots of participants on a bounty campaign and they should at least
limit that out for bounty hunters numbers but we know that they do target out for maximum exposure thats why they dont really mind much
if people are complaining about participants limit.So we do need to deal with it and if you cant accept then youre free not to look back
in bounty hunting.Its indeed useless for most cases but there are still projects who can really give out some good profits but picking the
right project isnt really something easy that someone can choose in thats why research will really matter.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: pallang on October 11, 2020, 01:38:28 AM
For this reason, I do not participate in social media campaigns. I also think that campaign managers need to raise the level of requirements to participate in such campaigns in order to avoid a huge number of useless participants.
Even i never tried to join on social bounty because at the end you will only get little amount its because of the huge amount of participants who joined on social media bounties.
One of the reasons why people do end up on getting some peanuts due to lots of participants on a bounty campaign and they should at least
limit that out for bounty hunters numbers but we know that they do target out for maximum exposure thats why they dont really mind much
if people are complaining about participants limit.So we do need to deal with it and if you cant accept then youre free not to look back
in bounty hunting.Its indeed useless for most cases but there are still projects who can really give out some good profits but picking the
right project isnt really something easy that someone can choose in thats why research will really matter.
That is one good suggestion limiting the amount of participants to get better rewards. So that its worth joining on bounty campaigns.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: pallang on October 12, 2020, 11:27:55 AM
Very little amount for social media campaign so don't buy Twitter Facebook anything account for participating bounty program. I have only one Facebook, Twitter and BTT account so it's enough for me. Really i am comfortable for using it with little amount from bounty.
I dont buy social media accounts its not worth it as reward for social media bounties is low and full of participants, and some of them are only bots.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: vlast01 on October 12, 2020, 04:42:53 PM
For me bounty still worth it,it is only useless when you joined the wrong one

Yes bounty are still worth it, but not as much worth as the previous, imagine the huge decreased on every token allocated on each of every campaigns plus the risk of the project for being a scam.

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better to have a little knowledge on the campaign you are joining.

I may say that little knowledge is not quite enough, On choosing campaign one should research thoroughly to ensure that your effort won't be wasted. If you really want to participate on a legit campaign, you should do a lot of research about the project as well as its ICO's

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As long as the campaign is legit and has a working product, does not matter if  you. wait for months for the reward, just have patience.

Its really are good to taste the fruits of your own efforts.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: stomachgrowls on October 13, 2020, 07:59:19 PM
For this reason, I do not participate in social media campaigns. I also think that campaign managers need to raise the level of requirements to participate in such campaigns in order to avoid a huge number of useless participants.
Even i never tried to join on social bounty because at the end you will only get little amount its because of the huge amount of participants who joined on social media bounties.
One of the reasons why people do end up on getting some peanuts due to lots of participants on a bounty campaign and they should at least
limit that out for bounty hunters numbers but we know that they do target out for maximum exposure thats why they dont really mind much
if people are complaining about participants limit.So we do need to deal with it and if you cant accept then youre free not to look back
in bounty hunting.Its indeed useless for most cases but there are still projects who can really give out some good profits but picking the
right project isnt really something easy that someone can choose in thats why research will really matter.
That is one good suggestion limiting the amount of participants to get better rewards. So that its worth joining on bounty campaigns.
Dont expect for that because they would stick out into their current set up which there would be no limitation when it comes to participant count and as quidat mentioned about maximum exposure which is indeed the truth.

They wont care if bounty hunters will earn much or less as long they do get their goal of advertising to the full extent.Finding good project is really indeed trying to search a needle on a haystack.

Projects become shit and only a few turns out to be good thats why some people do still make a shot and hoping for the best.
Very little amount for social media campaign so don't buy Twitter Facebook anything account for participating bounty program. I have only one Facebook, Twitter and BTT account so it's enough for me. Really i am comfortable for using it with little amount from bounty.
I dont buy social media accounts its not worth it as reward for social media bounties is low and full of participants, and some of them are only bots.
Bots are inevitable and a norm when it comes to twitter but its always been included into their marketing knowing that Twitter do had lots of users and also with Facebook too.

All things that in scope on making such marketing will really be included


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Renampun on October 15, 2020, 08:21:53 AM
I guess! i am very lucky man because i already received a good coin from bounty which is DIA and OKS. With here service provider i work few twitter bounty where there give me weekly btc rewards. I have a Twitter and Facebook account and i work in bounty so much enough for me.
me too, during this time of the outbreak I am grateful to get paid for BTC from the bounty signature campaign...
if anyone still says that bounties are useless then they are people who just want to make quick money without extra work. out there are still many bounties that pay, you must be brave enough to do more research before joining.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: MuffinMaster on October 15, 2020, 09:26:17 AM
I guess! i am very lucky man because i already received a good coin from bounty which is DIA and OKS. With here service provider i work few twitter bounty where there give me weekly btc rewards. I have a Twitter and Facebook account and i work in bounty so much enough for me.
me too, during this time of the outbreak I am grateful to get paid for BTC from the bounty signature campaign...
if anyone still says that bounties are useless then they are people who just want to make quick money without extra work. out there are still many bounties that pay, you must be brave enough to do more research before joining.

"brave enough"?
Either I don't understand something or you used the wrong words ...
I can't imagine joining any bounty campaign without checking the project (usually dev team, whitepaper, roadmap, but sometimes most important is working product). This usually takes a few minutes, because unfortunately most projects looks suspicious right away.
I think spending 2-3 hours thoroughly reviewing the project we want to promote is very little compared to the fact that we can waste a few weeks promoting a project with no perspective, or even worse if turns in to a scam.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: fourpiece on October 15, 2020, 11:00:37 PM
I guess! i am very lucky man because i already received a good coin from bounty which is DIA and OKS. With here service provider i work few twitter bounty where there give me weekly btc rewards. I have a Twitter and Facebook account and i work in bounty so much enough for me.
I joined on oks round 2 bounty but until now no exact information about the distribution, they even said on the bounty thread that distribution will take place 1 week after the final calculation of stake, its already a month since the calculation is done.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Mahanton on October 15, 2020, 11:47:45 PM
I guess! i am very lucky man because i already received a good coin from bounty which is DIA and OKS. With here service provider i work few twitter bounty where there give me weekly btc rewards. I have a Twitter and Facebook account and i work in bounty so much enough for me.
me too, during this time of the outbreak I am grateful to get paid for BTC from the bounty signature campaign...
if anyone still says that bounties are useless then they are people who just want to make quick money without extra work. out there are still many bounties that pay, you must be brave enough to do more research before joining.

"brave enough"?
Either I don't understand something or you used the wrong words ...
I can't imagine joining any bounty campaign without checking the project (usually dev team, whitepaper, roadmap, but sometimes most important is working product). This usually takes a few minutes, because unfortunately most projects looks suspicious right away.
I think spending 2-3 hours thoroughly reviewing the project we want to promote is very little compared to the fact that we can waste a few weeks promoting a project with no perspective, or even worse if turns in to a scam.
Checking everything wont really be enough to consume out only few minutes and if you are really that serious on joining bounties then always choose the best projects out there.
Thing here is that it had already become shit market for people to join up.High chances that you will really chose up a bad project even if you do saw that their WP, team behind were
good but the actual project isnt relevant on what others been looking for or got interested.Bounties had become not too appealing for most people due to ICO market had been
tarnished out by lots of scam project which in result for people not on being paid up and with that reason then its not surprising for them to leave out.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Btc_1856 on October 16, 2020, 06:07:44 AM
I guess! i am very lucky man because i already received a good coin from bounty which is DIA and OKS. With here service provider i work few twitter bounty where there give me weekly btc rewards. I have a Twitter and Facebook account and i work in bounty so much enough for me.

Good, many people are complaining about the bounty because they are not getting payments on time from the bounties they are joining. That's why many people are suggesting them to research about the company before joining any bounty and it will help to make decent profit once we get payment from the bounty we partcipate.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: Malamok101 on October 16, 2020, 08:11:59 AM
I don't think also of that because lot of projects are not same as you will see try to explore new bounty projects that make you real money always check whitepaper to secure it is legit, you can say it also many project are definitely scam.


Title: Re: Bounty campaign is becoming absolutely useless.
Post by: MuffinMaster on October 16, 2020, 08:51:25 AM
I guess! i am very lucky man because i already received a good coin from bounty which is DIA and OKS. With here service provider i work few twitter bounty where there give me weekly btc rewards. I have a Twitter and Facebook account and i work in bounty so much enough for me.
me too, during this time of the outbreak I am grateful to get paid for BTC from the bounty signature campaign...
if anyone still says that bounties are useless then they are people who just want to make quick money without extra work. out there are still many bounties that pay, you must be brave enough to do more research before joining.

"brave enough"?
Either I don't understand something or you used the wrong words ...
I can't imagine joining any bounty campaign without checking the project (usually dev team, whitepaper, roadmap, but sometimes most important is working product). This usually takes a few minutes, because unfortunately most projects looks suspicious right away.
I think spending 2-3 hours thoroughly reviewing the project we want to promote is very little compared to the fact that we can waste a few weeks promoting a project with no perspective, or even worse if turns in to a scam.

Checking everything wont really be enough to consume out only few minutes and if you are really that serious on joining bounties then always choose the best projects out there.


You did not understand me. I wrote that I reject most of them after a few minutes, because that's all I need to find something that completely eliminates the project in my eyes. It takes at least a few hours for a closer research.

Thing here is that it had already become shit market for people to join up.High chances that you will really chose up a bad project even if you do saw that their WP, team behind were
good but the actual project isnt relevant on what others been looking for or got interested.Bounties had become not too appealing for most people due to ICO market had been
tarnished out by lots of scam project which in result for people not on being paid up and with that reason then its not surprising for them to leave out.

Here I fully agree with you. The ICO market collapsed because of a very large amount of scams, but also because people didn't make research about projects at all. They deposited money without checking even the basic information about the project. What happened next was the result of these two things.
There are still investors on the ICO market who are looking for perspective projects. I am also looking for bounty campaigns of good ones.
Of course there is always the risk of missing something or a project simply going to fail. By researching the project, I'm just trying to reduce the risk of that my work and time will be wasted.