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Title: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: suchmoon on February 12, 2019, 05:55:22 PM
Quickseller did some cleanup in this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1614573.0

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This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (28 posts by 13 users with 4 merit deleted.)

Here is the thread before the cleanup: https://archive.fo/yuJyd

Seems like he was attacking multiple users but then decided to focus just on Vod.

And as you can obviously see, whatever accusations I'll come up with as a result of this thread, Quickseller has not denied them so they're all true.



Making this self-moderated due to assholes running around doxing people.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: mikeywith on February 12, 2019, 08:38:19 PM
maybe he wants to move on and not attack everyone who likes/trust Vod just for something Vod said ?

i really hope this is the case and that everybody moves on and leave the past behind, i can't understand how can someone go through this shit for years and never get tired.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: suchmoon on February 12, 2019, 08:45:19 PM
Well, he could just lock the thread. Or do nothing at all. The thread was long forgotten. Instead he deleted all replies including my two posts, and heavily revised the OP.

So I felt compelled to post the archive link just in case any of the other 12 users who got the delete notifications are wondering what happened.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: Vod on February 13, 2019, 06:53:38 AM
If Quickseller would simply take a bullet to the brain, this forum could finally move on.    ;D

But seriously, is he even relevant anymore?


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: Kavelj22 on February 13, 2019, 11:27:42 AM
If Quickseller would simply take a bullet to the brain, this forum could finally move on.    ;D

But seriously, is he even relevant anymore?

@OP why not suggesting to ban him permanently from the forum or locking up his account forever?

Personally, i do really like reading Quickseller's posts, as i really enjoy the logic he uses. (Not in all cases, of course)
I also find it funny how high ranked members (including Mods and DTs) pay a lot of attention about every single act he makes (some record them) and how administration can't lock or ban him despite addmitting (by proofs) that he is untrustworthy.

Am not encouraging anybody to follow him, so just, as a reminder, The basic rule with him is not to make trade deals or any convention (trust based) without trusted known escrows.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on February 13, 2019, 11:41:34 AM
If Quickseller would simply take a bullet to the brain, this forum could finally move on.    ;D

But seriously, is he even relevant anymore?

@OP why not suggesting to ban him permanently from the forum or locking up his account forever?

Personally, i do really like reading Quickseller's posts, as i really enjoy the logic he uses. (Not in all cases, of course)
I also find it funny how high ranked members (including Mods and DTs) pay a lot of attention about every single act he makes (some record them) and how administration can't lock or ban him despite addmitting (by proofs) that he is untrustworthy.

Am not encouraging anybody to follow him, so just, as a reminder, The basic rule with him is not to make trade deals or any convention (trust based) without trusted known escrows.

Being untrustworthy should never be a reason to ban someone.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: Kavelj22 on February 13, 2019, 12:09:12 PM
Being untrustworthy should never be a reason to ban someone.

Yes i know. What i wanted to say is that Quickseller is accumulating RedTrust over and over but no one (from the powerfuls) can stop him using the rule and just can follow his posts and record them.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: Timelord2067 on February 13, 2019, 02:49:31 PM
Actually no,  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1614573.msg49709412#msg49709412

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Quote from: Quickseller on 13 February 2019, 01:12:00
You will have to talk to timelord about bumping the two year old thread. He was the one who bumped it.
I can confirm this.

I didn't bump it, I reposted the part where quickseller had removed from their OP the list of people s/he doesn't trust.  I had seven of my posts removed in one go then my reposting of quickseller's list.

quickseller was the one who provoked the repost by necro deleting his/her posts from three years ago, I just happened to be the first to repost her/his list.





Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: Timelord2067 on February 13, 2019, 02:52:33 PM
In answer to the questions in "the other thread"

Yes, my post eight hours later was deleted:

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Archived for future reference: http://archive.fo/nSkkU

It was somewhat recently (~3 weeks ago) brought to my attention that Vod made an implied death threat against me via the following post:

Quote from: Vod on August 21, 2016, 06:17:11 AM
I think Quickseller really should kill himself.

It was later clarified by Vod that this post was not a joke

Quote from: Vod on August 21, 2016, 08:36:48 PM
I really wish the guy would kill himself already

This statement is fairly clearly an implied threat, and is most likely illegal in Canada.

While these kinds of implied threats are very clearly very wrong, especially when unprovoked, I believe the community as a whole should very strongly condemn this kind of behavior, especially when then author is not simply frustrated with someone, but rather has acknowledged that he really means it when he makes these kinds of statements.

This kind of behavior is so egregious that I believe that anyone supporting, and/or trusting someone who makes these kinds of threats, is himself condoning violence, and as a result I do not think it is a good idea to trade with these people.

I have previously sent a PM to the below list of people advising them of the situation. This list of people only includes those that I am certain received my PM, and those that have discussed the situation with my in one way or another that leads me to believe they do not condone these kinds of threats have not been included in this list.

The below list of people are those that I believe condone threats of violence. It is my opinion that everyone should avoid doing any kind of business with the below people:

Cyrus - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=78147 (staff member)
dooglus - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3420
QuestionAuthority - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=72795
Amitabh S - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=72118
KWH - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=70535
GIANNAT - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=73619
kcud_dab - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=85550 (staff member)
Gws24 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101842
mentalpanda - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=160727
cakir - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205338
Aggressor66 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224500
whywefight - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=289686
micky123 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=327665
mexxer-2 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=341982
Steamingoff - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511296
mr.relax - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=522205

The following companies are advertised by the above users and/or are run by the above users, and as a result I believe you should avoid doing any kind of business with the below companies:

JustDice.com


In the event that corrective action is taken by anyone on the above list and/or anyone on the above list can defend their position to my satisfaction, I will reconsider their position on this list.

Self-moderated thread. Posts that I deem to be trolling and/or off topic will be removed by myself. 

PS everyone reading this, this is what is known in Australia as quickseller taking their bat and ball and going home (http://archive.fo/nSkkU#selection-351.1-351.42)...


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: suchmoon on February 13, 2019, 02:56:41 PM
Being untrustworthy should never be a reason to ban someone.

True. Although QS is also breaking the rules quite often - multi-posting, off-topic spam, doxing - but he seems to have immunity from that. I doubt he'll ever get banned and it wouldn't do much good anyway, what with his army of sockpuppets.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: Lauda on February 13, 2019, 07:40:51 PM
maybe he wants to move on and not attack everyone who likes/trust Vod just for something Vod said ?

i really hope this is the case and that everybody moves on and leave the past behind, i can't understand how can someone go through this shit for years and never get tired.
If he wanted to really move on, then has to clean out and lock many threads. This does not seem to be the case.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: Vod on February 13, 2019, 07:44:46 PM
QS sure tries to come off as a moral person in that thread - stating I am violent (??) because I wish he would kill himself. 

Yet he believes I rape children, and he is OK with that.   

Will take 30 minutes to write a detailed post about my wish, but won't take one min to call the local police service to report me.

It does give me satisfaction to know he still respects what I post, while I couldn't care less if he is still alive.  :)


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: Timelord2067 on February 13, 2019, 10:16:10 PM
just on two weeks ago I commented in a post that hillariousandco has at least two confirmed alts.

(previously I also posted that s/he had taunted me in a PM that their main alt was quickseller)

in the two weeks since I made that comment multiple random posts dating back three years have been deleted by mods without explanation every other day.

That's not including the seven from qs' thread we are discussing here.

Overnight, this was deleted from the thread I started Cryptopia - ONLINE ARTICLES related to hack & theft of funds 2019 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5097916.0

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Police skills in doubt over Cryptopia probe into missing $23m

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/110387805/cryptopia-director-says-technicians-are-helping-police-track-stolen-23m / (Archive (http://archive.fo/MnJme))

Chris Hutching16:34, Feb 05 2019

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An expert in corporate law is questioning whether police have the skills to resolve the $23 million theft from Christchurch-based Cryptopia.

Auckland University associate professor of commercial law, Alex Sims, said information about the investigation had not been handled well and regulatory authorities were "struggling" to deal with cyber theft.

"No one seems to have a clue what's going on. But this hasn't come out of the blue. There has been a lot of dialogue in recent years about the security of cryptocurrency and where to store the digital wallets.

"Cryptocurrency is a legitimate business. It's not a scam. But our regulators are really struggling compared with the US, Japan and European countries which have set up secure custodial services," Sims said.

Cryptopia had held investors' digital wallets, when they should have been held by the investors or with a safe custodial service, and any money kept in trust by the exchange, she said.

 Sims said cryptocurrency and the underlying blockchain technology was here to stay.

"It would be like someone in 1900 saying we should outlaw cars because someone got run over. If you outlawed New Zealand cryptocurrency exchanges people will just use overseas exchanges."

 She made the comment as Cryptopia's sole Christchurch-based director Pete Dawson apologised for his silence because of the risk to the police investigation.

"Our team is giving police technical assistance and their advice to is maintain radio silence in case we inadvertently say something that might interrupt their investigation," Dawson said.

Dawson said the overseas reports had misinterpreted further transfers of some of the stolen cryptocurrencies, which can be traced through different trading exchanges.

Other overseas reports said police had said Cryptopia could be operating again this month, but an official police spokesperson said there had not been any indication of when it might re-start business.

A New York-based analyst, Max Galka of Elementus, said the thieves been busy liquidating the stolen tokens by converting them into other cryptocurrencies via an international exchange called Etherdelta.

Another Christchurch exchange called BitPrime recently assured stakeholders them it did not hold or manage customer funds.

 "Holding customer funds increases the risk, which can turn out disastrously," BitPrime chief executive Ross Carter-Brown said.

"Our own cryptocurrency reserves are held by an institutional custodian in cold storage, with US$100 million worth of insurance coverage.

"If you use a centralised exchange, ensure you withdraw all of your funds to your own wallets as soon as possible. If the coins are not in a wallet that you control the private keys for, in effect, then they're not really your coins."

Another Kiwi exchange called Vimba gave similar advice.

"When you keep crypto on an exchange you don't actually have ownership of those coins. We highly recommend you to move it into a personal wallet that you control."

Ross Carter-Brown said investors would be unable to claim all tax losses losses because until their digital coins were cashed up they could be classed as income.

 He has also written about what may happen when cryptocurrency investors die.

"Traditionally, gaining access to a bank account is relatively straightforward after a family member passes. In the case of Bitcoin, it is much more complicated as there are wallets, passphrases and security boundaries.

"If your family isn't aware of the existence of your crypto holdings, it will be lost forever. Keep your wallet passphrase somewhere secure like a deposit box or a locked safe and provide instructions on how to get to it in your will."




As you can see there is (for the first time) a message
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However if you look at the OP of the thread that *I* started the above has not been merged.

This post is on topic as it concerns a person claiming to be qs in PM (posted previously) and recent unexplained upto three year old posts being necro-deleted.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: Kavelj22 on February 15, 2019, 11:38:40 AM
Being untrustworthy should never be a reason to ban someone.

True. Although QS is also breaking the rules quite often - multi-posting, off-topic spam, doxing - but he seems to have immunity from that. I doubt he'll ever get banned and it wouldn't do much good anyway, what with his army of sockpuppets.

Would you please provide some examples about how QS breack forum rules? As i would also know your explanation why he is not yet banned from using the forum.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: suchmoon on February 15, 2019, 02:25:48 PM
Would you please provide some examples about how QS breack forum rules? As i would also know your explanation why he is not yet banned from using the forum.

He posted owlcatz' location and my name outside of Investigations. Derails threads with his Lauda rants quite often and those rarely get deleted, here's one from last month:

https://i.snag.gy/SeKgTs.jpg

I don't really care about an explanation, as I said I'm quite certain he'd just come back with an army of alts.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: owlcatz on February 15, 2019, 02:28:30 PM
He removed a bunch of stuff from the "extortion thread", particularly a screenshot from Zeroxal stating everything was "fine" and "over with" - I had linked to it in ratings, and saw it was removed so had to redo a few ::)


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: Timelord2067 on February 16, 2019, 12:36:18 AM
I don't really care about an explanation, as I said I'm quite certain he'd just come back with an army of alts.

What is an acceptable way of identifying an alt of quickseller?  By that I mean, put a note on their trust wall (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105851.0)?  Start a thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1687538.msg16938914#msg16938914)?  Post in the known alts thread (http://archive.fo/RnwCT#selection-9179.0-9185.10)?

Or, just swear at them as a way of tagging them as alts? I can't find the example I wanted to use, but this one here (http://archive.fo/b4vz2#selection-533.9-533.44) and here (http://archive.fo/fcuB7#selection-6223.37-6223.64) will do.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: suchmoon on February 16, 2019, 12:50:57 AM
I don't really care about an explanation, as I said I'm quite certain he'd just come back with an army of alts.

What is an acceptable way of identifying an alt of quickseller?  By that I mean, put a note on their trust wall (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105851.0)?  Start a thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1687538.msg16938914#msg16938914)?  Post in the known alts thread (http://archive.fo/RnwCT#selection-9179.0-9185.10)?

Or, just swear at them as a way of tagging them as alts? I can't find the example I wanted to use, but this one here (http://archive.fo/b4vz2#selection-533.9-533.44) and here (http://archive.fo/fcuB7#selection-6223.37-6223.64) will do.

Depends on the strength of the single malt that you're drinking at the time evidence. The stronger the evidence, the stronger the swearing. E.g. accounts registered around the same time barely deserve an angry glance. But blockchain evidence may necessitate an offer to have an intercourse with a bag of nails.

Seriously though, Quicksy is a slippery SOB so it's unlikely that there will be strong proof of his alts. Just tag them neutral and if it turns out to be true you can always say "I told you so".


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: TalkStar on February 16, 2019, 04:51:55 AM
"Quickseller" deleted multiple comments from his thread but its not going to make any difference IMO. On the archive  thread its clear that "quickseller" tried his best to take sympathy from others by shouting that "vod" give him threat. How funny it is that there wasn't anybody there who support him on be half of his claim.

There's no logic there to take vod's word as a threat but he tried there to make it logical. Maybe his realization guiding him to the real scene. That's why trying to erase old fault.



Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: suchmoon on February 16, 2019, 05:03:08 AM
There's no logic there to take vod's word as a threat but he tried there to make it logical. Maybe his realization guiding him to the real scene. That's why trying to erase old fault.

I doubt it. He still kept the claim that Vod is "violent", so I don't think he changed his mind. Probably he's just hoping that other users he had mentioned in the original thread will forget his stupidity now that he removed their names.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: TalkStar on February 16, 2019, 05:16:50 AM

I doubt it. He still kept the claim that Vod is "violent", so I don't think he changed his mind. Probably he's just hoping that other users he had mentioned in the original thread will forget his stupidity now that he removed their names.
Yeah agree with you and that's why i mentioned on my comment that he is trying to erase old fault. Where he knows it better that issues between him and vod is not going solve because his claim against "vod" is meaningless.



Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: AverageGlabella on February 16, 2019, 03:30:43 PM
If Quickseller would simply take a bullet to the brain, this forum could finally move on.    ;D

But seriously, is he even relevant anymore?

Probably very relevant perhaps not by his main account but by the hundreds of alt accounts that he has he probably has more influence on things that we think. The sad thing is due to his exploits and shenanigans he has managed to create himself as a somewhat historic figure of the forum. Probably why he hasn't just ditched the account and moved on with his alt. He loves the attention and his probably happy that he's made such a dent in the forums history. Now I'm all for just forgetting about his account but we continue to bring him up and remind us of an account which has no place in this forums history. Maybe there is something behind this Suchmoon but if we think about the character that Quickseller is he's a rogue that loves the attention that we continually give to him. He knew that you would be notified by personal message that your replies were deleted and he knows that you guys have a massive conflict which has contributed to his fame. Quickseller isn't completely dull he knows how to influence things and I would say that this was another successful attempt at gaining the spotlight. He probably didn't think you would have a archive but I think a lot of us have already archived most of his posts for future reference.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: suchmoon on February 16, 2019, 04:12:15 PM
I guess sarcasm is hard to convey across the intertubes despite the huge "/s" in my sig but this thread is really just mocking Quicksy's random accusations that he loves to throw around. "Pill addiction (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2881533)" is a classic.

Whatever Quicksy was doing with that Vod thread - I'm sure it has meaning to him and probably not so much to anyone else. But since he hasn't denied anything ;) ... everything I can possibly insinuate is true.


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: Kavelj22 on February 16, 2019, 08:54:43 PM
Would you please provide some examples about how QS breack forum rules? As i would also know your explanation why he is not yet banned from using the forum.

He posted owlcatz' location and my name outside of Investigations. Derails threads with his Lauda rants quite often and those rarely get deleted, here's one from last month:

https://i.snag.gy/SeKgTs.jpg

I don't really care about an explanation, as I said I'm quite certain he'd just come back with an army of alts.

I do really care to find an explanation about how a user profile (QS) is breacking forum rules (deserving an urgent ban), as you confirmed, and still active as always. Even it's confirmed that he own an army of alts, this is not a reason to not ban him, because no one leaves the forum for real after being banned, and investigations can be made for every suspicous account to be an alt of a banned user.
What i understand from your post, is that the forum will face big troubles if the administration ban QS. Is this really true?


Title: Re: What is Quickseller trying to hide? Gruesome stuff I'm sure. Hasn't denied it.
Post by: suchmoon on February 17, 2019, 08:23:53 AM
I do really care to find an explanation about how a user profile (QS) is breacking forum rules (deserving an urgent ban), as you confirmed, and still active as always. Even it's confirmed that he own an army of alts, this is not a reason to not ban him, because no one leaves the forum for real after being banned, and investigations can be made for every suspicous account to be an alt of a banned user.
What i understand from your post, is that the forum will face big troubles if the administration ban QS. Is this really true?

I don't think it would be "big troubles" or if that is even a consideration for not deleting those posts and/or not banning him. Moderators have discretion in these decisions and that's generally a good thing, as it also works in favor of more reputable members if they occasionally step over the line.

Quicksy is a sleazebag so he has probably worked out a way to slide just under the moderators' tolerance threshold. He's not the only one. Take cryptohunter for example. Utter troll, derails every discussion with his rants.  The price we pay for free speech is that assholes use it too.