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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: Coolcryptovator on February 17, 2019, 06:18:59 PM



Title: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Coolcryptovator on February 17, 2019, 06:18:59 PM
Recent activity of SteveStake (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2458002) look like encourage spam on the forum (IMO). I had noticed it (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5092506.msg49557823#msg49557823) two weeks ago. However, never mind what is the pay rate, it's depend on them and I don't want to talk about it. I just want to mention how they are encouraging spam. FYI, I had not bothered to apply or I have no problem with them. My intention isn't to tag them or stop them.

I have bothered open this thread because to they have opened another campaign although there is a running campaign and look like they are inviting spammer. Below is their 2 thread;
1. Stake.com - A signature campaign for everyone! Earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.0;all)   (Archived (http://archive.is/BkOJv))
2. Stake.com Signature Campaign - Up to 0.035 BTC a week (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5092506.0;all)   (Archived (http://archive.is/6jVZX))

I will quote below those point is encouraging spammer. (Both signature campaign is running)
Old thread:
After you have made 25 posts you will be paid .0001 BTC per post (caps at 200 posts weekly)
I think this is the one reason of encourage spam. There should be limit of maximum post like 50 or 100. Is it very easy to make 200 post ? Can we expect quality good post if someone made 200 post ?

This campaign is aimed towards Legendary/Hero members, adding Sr and Full is just a small addition. If you don't like the price simply don't join. There's no need to put spam between other people's applications and spread false information confusing people.

So why need encourage spam?
Sr. + Full Members - .0001 BTC per 5 posts
Must make 25 posts minimum per week

On new thread:
20+ characters per post
and
Quote
Constructive posts only (no spamming)
What constructive post he is expecting within 20 words ?

This campaign will promote organic conversations that you actually want to be part of and allow you to effortlessly accumulate high post counts
Look at the bold part, accumulate high post count, he don't need accumulate quality post count.


Anyone who tries to take advantage and spam will be removed and not paid for the week. The main goal of this campaign is to bring more freedom to the people who join by giving them the chance to create higher quality posts through organic conversations in topics they're genuinely interested in.

Answer given by Darkstar, so I don't want to repeat.

I guarantee you that you're only bringing freedom to those who want to be paid for spam, and not get close to creating higher quality posts. Take this guy for example, (https://archive.is/qrq8e) and basically any ANN thread in the gambling section. It's infuriating how basically no one wearing a Stake signature reads the thread before responding.

They had not uploaded participant list/spreadsheet yet, so we can't check their posting quality.

Most likely SteveStake forgot about merit system where most of managers are requiring even 5 earned merit (especially for btc signature).

Do you think he is doing right? What is your opinion ? Do you think they should reconsider their requirement?


Title: Re: Stake.com encourage spam.
Post by: asche on February 17, 2019, 07:05:43 PM
I was actually considering posting something similar.

Big up for doing it.

I guess it is still a bit soon, and we will need to see what the BM considers a constructive post or not.

You are relating the 20 chars & constructive posts as if 20 chars was the max and not he min. You should change your reasoning. It is perfectly possible to be beneficial to a debate or a question by giving a short answer, even if it is unlikely.

My personal opinion is that this will go south very fast.

Edit: They don't have to change their opinion, they just have to thoroughly check the posts. I am not saying that I trust them to do it tho.
They should just increase the payment/post and limit the max post being paid and only accept member that generally post a lot, or just offer a fixed amount/week, with a min posting while chosing big posters.


Title: Re: Stake.com encourage spam.
Post by: DarkStar_ on February 17, 2019, 07:08:08 PM
Some examples of the high quality posting brought to you by the Stake campaign:

More gems:

I don't know if the website issues has been resolved as last that I tried to longin into my account is going?  I have also seeing the signature campaign suspended I hope all is well.
You'll know that by simply accessing their website, and until now it still showed the "404 Not Found"
That simply mean that the site is literally gone and don't expect they'll be back again soon, and if ever they'll comeback, it will be hard for them to gain back the confidence of the gamblers.
So sad to hear that.  Those people who still have funds in that gambling site is unlucky because they did not withdraw their money before the gambling gone. But maybe those people who still have funds in the wallet of everybet.io will waiting to comeback again because they need their money they still have hope for them.

They shut down about 3 weeks before that post and returned all funds to customers by contacting them via various communication channels. Getting all of your funds is hardly "unlucky".

I do rather like to invest my Money in a Bitcoin Gambling site rather than putting my money on a Casino.
The reason is that , some Casino dont provide instant support to their users comparing to Gambling sites. Casinos have plenty of complicated games which make it hard for a Gambler to understand and gamble.
Moreover there are a lot of other trusted Casinos in the market. Why we will choose the following Casino?

Casinos are more complicated than Bitcoin Gambling sites apparently

I think it will be very hard to win on this game, From now I cannot see any lucky winners yet.

Such quality much wow (but hey, it exceeds the 20 character requirement!)

https://www.instagram.com/bigluckyplays/

I like to play for high payouts, let's see if I can continue. More deposits coming soon.

These ones are from Primedice: https://imgur.com/a/IGJG8dw
A very good site that has been active and legit for many years. Stake.com is also good, It is easy to earn there and favorite game is  bitcoin mines,

A very good high quality and constructive post

Went through the casino. You've added most of the games that easily attract the attention of gamblers. In the cryptocurrency community every week new bitcoin accepted casinos were coming into existence. Saw about the campaign in the casino, but more than that a campaign in bitcointalk.org will let you get more users.

High quality post where he states some "facts" and then asks for a signature campaign so he can spam there and possibly earn more

In the list I only kbow sportbet.io because I already tried to play to thar sportd betting and I already and Im still playing. I try to make a research to the list so I can play also in the future if I want to play to other. I play in different gambling site. I hope my other sports betting that I know will be listed in the next update.  It is helpful to know where the player can play because of this.

Anyone want to explain what this means?



Seriously, do your job and stop letting spammers join.



edit: Even worse, you don't have a public list of participants so I can't verify whether you're actually paying the spammers, or check the other participants. Quotes above were from my own experiences browsing the Gambling section and I put basically zero effort in finding them.


Title: Re: Stake.com encourage spam.
Post by: Thule on February 17, 2019, 08:00:15 PM
Funny i just checked today myself for the first time signatur campaigns and realised that no accounts with negative trust are being accepted anymore.
So you can say DT members who are abusing their power or giving false rating on purpose are instantly destroying the possibility to earn some BTC using these signatures.
Seeing also the biggest DT supporters their hunting for these signatures made me laugh.

You destroy legit accounts which created a lot of good content in the past and are getting flooded now with newbie accounts.
Soon there will be no more high ranked accounts without red taggs.

Also the rule if somebody receives a red tagg from a DT member won't get paid is the biggest joke.
Is a DT member playing BOSS deciding who will get paid and who not ?
I think these campaign managers are a little bit to much brain damaged by these DT abusers how else could you explain enforcing such nonsense.

I sent out of interrest some PM's asking if false negative trust is an issue.Will love to see their replies.


Its really funny the people who are yelling the loudest about signature being the biggest shit on this forum are all wearing these nice signatures which is mainly promoting hazard.... which btw is in most countries ilegal (even promoting it).

And since its ilegal am asking myself where are here our honorable DT members protecting our community from scams which are by law ilegal ?


Title: Re: Stake.com encourage spam.
Post by: Coolcryptovator on February 17, 2019, 08:09:29 PM
Its really funny the people who are yelling the loudest about signature being the biggest shit on this forum are all wearing these nice signatures which is mainly promoting hazard.... which btw is in most countries ilegal (even promoting it).

And since its ilegal am asking myself where are here our honorable DT members protecting our community from scams which are by law ilegal ?
Bitcoin is illegal most of country, so we need to stop promoting Bitcoin ? Should we leave this Bitcoin related forum? Did you?


I sent out of interrest some PM's asking if false negative trust is an issue.Will love to see their replies.
No one tagged him yet. My intention isn't tag him, my intention is discourage spam.

Soon there will be no more high ranked accounts without red taggs.
I don't think so.


Is a DT member playing BOSS deciding who will get paid and who not ?
Are DT members deciding who will accept or reject ?

where in western countries is bitcoin ilegal ?
If you make stupid claims at least try to justify them
Is Bitcoin created for only western country ? Has Satoshi Nakamoto told you that Bitcoin created only for western country?  Don't ask stupid questions.

The funny thing about him, no DT member says a thing about his fucked up English and his claims. Probably because DOUBLE STANDARD is all over this place unfortunately. Nothing against him personally as I have never dealt with him nor I had any conversation with him, just stating the fact.
Never mind, red always against DT members.


Title: Re: Stake.com encourage spam.
Post by: asche on February 17, 2019, 08:42:07 PM
The funny thing about him, no DT member says a thing about his fucked up English and his claims. Probably because DOUBLE STANDARD is all over this place unfortunately. Nothing against him personally as I have never dealt with him nor I had any conversation with him, just stating the fact.

So we should start tagging people because they didn't have the chance to be taught english early on, or simply because they have poor knowledge/are stupid?

Seems a bit extreme.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: mikeywith on February 17, 2019, 10:26:35 PM
isn't this what most campaigns do? they all have the word "quality" there and most of them don't seem to follow through. a single test would be counting merit for those people wearing signatures, i am pretty sure the majority of them don't even have a rate of 1 to 10 merit to post ratio, they all seem to post the same shit everyday and since they still get paid, why should they bother?


Title: Re: Stake.com encourage spam.
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 17, 2019, 10:33:42 PM
The funny thing about him, no DT member says a thing about his fucked up English and his claims. Probably because DOUBLE STANDARD is all over this place unfortunately. Nothing against him personally as I have never dealt with him nor I had any conversation with him, just stating the fact.

So we should start tagging people because they didn't have the chance to be taught english early on, or simply because they have poor knowledge/are stupid?

Seems a bit extreme.

 I don't think anyone has been punished around here for not knowing English. Users from non English speaking backgrounds are punished for joining signature campaigns and posting outside of their means. If they cannot make a post(constructive) that makes sense and is on topic in the English boards, then they need to stay in their local boards until they learn the language better. I'm just giving reasons as to why users may get a red tag if English is not a language they know well, not anything about you.



Do you think he is doing right? What is your opinion ? Do you think they should reconsider their requirement?

I was wondering if a thread about this Campaign would be made. As long as this manager keeps an eye on the participants and is strict about the posts, things should be fine. Obviously by seeing the post by Darkstar we can see that users are posting some trash, but we do not know if they are being paid for that trash yet.

We will be able to tell a lot more when we see who is paid and what rate they earn as to whether this Steve guy is doing a good job.

Now more to the point of your questions. Do I think he is doing right? No, I think users will post like crazy to make the campaign worth their time. I think he is tempting users to get banned for spam. I think it's a very bad move on the part of Stake, but that's just my opinion. We, the community has 0 say in what they offer participants as far as payrate goes. That's between the manager and the site they are advertising.(Even if it's an owner of the site on a new account)

You gotta remember a site's main objective is to attract players. They want as many people in the bitcoin world as possible seeing their Advertisement. They could care less who get's banned or whatnot. They want the most bang for their buck. Can you blame them? I understand their stance as well, they just need to come up with a payment option that can best achieve what they want while not making the community go nuts.

We the community do have a choice as to whether or not apply for the campaign. So, if some campaign like this pops up, users should just not join or not fall for temptation. You either can deal with the low rate offered and move on, or join and take your chances at getting banned by spamming. Why risk it? Seems to me the choice should be do not join, and show the company you would rather support the community then make a few dollars and risk being tossed from the community.

I have no issues with Stake or any other site, Just my opinions


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Coolcryptovator on February 18, 2019, 04:06:28 AM
Seems they are going to change few rules as we discussed here and their thread. Just now noticed from their campaign thread. I will take it positively at least they understand that their few rules should be reconsider, that was the reason why I have opened this thread. My intention isn't harass someone, we just need reduce spam from forum. Let's wait what changes they are going to do.


Thanks everyone for taking an interest in the campaign and giving your input on the thread and through pm. I wasn't expecting this campaign to become so massive in just a few days so some changes may be in order to account for its popularity. I will be making a few edits to the campaign based on input from the community such as lowering the amount of posts for the gambling section bonus and raising the character count per post. Edits will be made after the first payout because I don't believe it's fair to suddenly go back on an offer people have already accepted and started working on. I would also like to point out the average gained post count for all people in this campaign is between 9 and 10 after 3 days and this is including the posts of people who have already been kicked from the campaign.

However I will keep open this thread for further discussion.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: LoyceV on February 18, 2019, 07:16:30 AM
I've sent Stunna (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81292) a PM, asking to check this thread.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Thule on February 18, 2019, 07:38:08 AM
Seems they are going to change few rules as we discussed here and their thread. Just now noticed from their campaign thread. I will take it positively at least they understand that their few rules should be reconsider, that was the reason why I have opened this thread. My intention isn't harass someone, we just need reduce spam from forum. Let's wait what changes they are going to do.


Thanks everyone for taking an interest in the campaign and giving your input on the thread and through pm. I wasn't expecting this campaign to become so massive in just a few days so some changes may be in order to account for its popularity. I will be making a few edits to the campaign based on input from the community such as lowering the amount of posts for the gambling section bonus and raising the character count per post. Edits will be made after the first payout because I don't believe it's fair to suddenly go back on an offer people have already accepted and started working on. I would also like to point out the average gained post count for all people in this campaign is between 9 and 10 after 3 days and this is including the posts of people who have already been kicked from the campaign.

However I will keep open this thread for further discussion.



What about promoting harzard to underaged people ?Why don't you need to reduce that too ?


Oh just saw your signatur.Now i know why you don't feel that need


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Stunna on February 18, 2019, 11:30:50 AM
I've sent Stunna (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81292) a PM, asking to check this thread.

I forwarded this to Steve and the rest of the Stake team. Obviously there are some valid points highlighted here, there is no doubt that this is creating a huge amount of spam. Hopefully they can make some changes that the community finds agreeable.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Lucius on February 18, 2019, 11:39:35 AM

They had not uploaded participant list/spreadsheet yet, so we can't check their posting quality.

Most likely SteveStake forgot about merit system where most of managers are requiring even 5 earned merit (especially for btc signature).

Do you think he is doing right? What is your opinion ? Do you think they should reconsider their requirement?

Actually the first campaign have  spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OGQBpBWDy_2N6flWRmeQ3oJbxSvDXD_rpkbPNMVHo7Q/edit#gid=0) so we can see how some users behave when they have the opportunity to post up to 200 posts per week. Most is still below the limit of 50 post per week, but few users post more then 100 post, and one is commend by campaign manager for reaching post cap of 200 posts.

I think they are not doing right this campaign, some basic rules are ignored and many participants have no minimum predisposition to participate in any signature campaign.





Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: actmyname on February 18, 2019, 03:21:07 PM
What about promoting harzard to underaged people ?Why don't you need to reduce that too ?
You should stop promoting cryptocurrency. It's related to illicit activity and you are promoting such a terrible, terrible thing to underage children. How immoral of you :(
I forwarded this to Steve and the rest of the Stake team. Obviously there are some valid points highlighted here, there is no doubt that this is creating a huge amount of spam. Hopefully they can make some changes that the community finds agreeable.
Brilliant. Actual campaign managers that care about rooting out spam will make the forum a better place.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: TalkStar on February 18, 2019, 04:40:35 PM
Honestly i think its not possible to have enough traffic in website by just increasing particapators or post only. Quality post and creative poster make a great impression on visitors mind. That's why its better to highlght quality post rather than shitpost. As an example you can see the original scenario of ChipMixer Signature Campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935179.0) and web traffic (https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/chipmixer.com)

https://i.ibb.co/TgtFYGV/Untitled.png (https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/chipmixer.com)

You can see here on the pic that 58.3% traffic drived from bitcointalk but stake.com haven't got the visibility of bitcointalk traffic yet. Now you can compare it with ChipMixer partipants and IMO obviously they are high quality poster. For that reason they got the high amount of traffic from bitcointalk.

It is to notify that every participator of ChipMixer is high merit earner. So i think its clear to everyone that you will not get traffic if you accept spammer on signature campaign.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Findingnemo on February 18, 2019, 04:49:45 PM
actually crypto is legal in switzerland and the place where i live.
So you should stay away from this forum and just trash all your crypto funds if you have any,be a good citizen bro. ;D

Definitely bitcointalk will miss you.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: DarkStar_ on February 18, 2019, 05:07:42 PM
Kind of disappointing that they seem to be relying on the community to do their job for them. From Telegram:

Quote
Rules
- No spamming on Bitcointalk
- No spamming in Tg
- Report members of this group to us who are hurting the campaign because the better group we form the longer this campaign lasts. Examples include spamming and breaking Bitcointalk rules

@zerosumedge is also managing this group so listen to his requests

All reports, questions and inquiries can be sent to @StephenStake in a direct message (you can use the group chat for questions/messages just don't make it spammy)

(source) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1904684.msg49804288#msg49804288)



@Stake - You should figure out that not all posts are the same. Those that get viewed are infinitely times more valuable than the 200th+ post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5089214.msg49793301#msg49793301) answering (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5041743.msg49786522#msg49786522) a (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4845224.msg49781707#msg49781707) simple  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3349017.msg49799044#msg49799044)question  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034230.msg49779980#msg49779980)which  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1786423.msg49770762#msg49770762)are  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5048060.msg49783692#msg49783692)only  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1919869.msg49782647#msg49782647)read  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5107025.msg49777282#msg49777282)by  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106312.msg49757332#msg49757332)spammers  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2967940.msg49666036#msg49666036)looking  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3076961.msg49665836#msg49665836)to  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047546.msg49797269#msg49797269)paraphrase  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4819273.msg49780348#msg49780348)for  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5101219.msg49732257#msg49732257)their  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4789872.msg49806089#msg49806089)own  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4479318.msg49803919#msg49803919)post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3349017.msg49799044#msg49799044) spam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5099849.msg49805946#msg49805946).

(each word links to an exceptional high quality post by a Stake campaign member that will surely be read many times)


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: actmyname on February 18, 2019, 05:20:44 PM
Kind of disappointing that they seem to be relying on the community to do their job for them. From Telegram:

Quote
Rules
- No spamming on Bitcointalk
- No spamming in Tg
- Report members of this group to us who are hurting the campaign because the better group we form the longer this campaign lasts. Examples include spamming and breaking Bitcointalk rules

@zerosumedge is also managing this group so listen to his requests

All reports, questions and inquiries can be sent to @StephenStake in a direct message (you can use the group chat for questions/messages just don't make it spammy)

(source) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1904684.msg49804288#msg49804288)
I wouldn't say that asking for reports is mutually exclusive to handling of campaign spam by the manager. Given that the campaign is set to take in a large number of users (from what I assume, since there are yet to be actual numbers on the member list), any kind of help should be welcomed.

What I don't like is the "earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly" part of this campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.0). That's a minimum of 990 posts that they'll accept (weekly) and a maximum of 4950 posts.

There is no way a normal person can create that many constructive posts.

Assuming 9 hours of sleep and 15 hours of posting (every single day, without break) that corresponds to one post every 6.4 minutes at the Legendary rank. Or, one post every 1.3 minutes (76 seconds) at Jr. Member rank.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Thule on February 18, 2019, 05:32:25 PM
Honestly i think its not possible to have enough traffic in website by just increasing particapators or post only. Quality post and creative poster make a great impression on visitors mind. That's why its better to highlght quality post rather than shitpost. As an example you can see the original scenario of ChipMixer Signature Campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935179.0) and web traffic (https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/chipmixer.com)

https://i.ibb.co/TgtFYGV/Untitled.png (https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/chipmixer.com)

You can see here on the pic that 58.3% traffic drived from bitcointalk but stake.com haven't got the visibility of bitcointalk traffic yet. Now you can compare it with ChipMixer partipants and IMO obviously they are high quality poster. For that reason they got the high amount of traffic from bitcointalk.

It is to notify that every participator of ChipMixer is high merit earner. So i think its clear to everyone that you will not get traffic if you accept spammer on signature campaign.


Its a numbers game.Quantity will always beat at some stage quality.
If somebody replaces 1 quality posts with 50 shitty posts the quality post will definetly lose that battle.
Legendary/Hero get higher click through rates no question asked but not that they will be able to compete against 10+ shitty posts from regular accounts.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: actmyname on February 18, 2019, 05:38:09 PM
Its a numbers game.Quantity will always beat at some stage quality.
If somebody replaces 1 quality posts with 50 shitty posts the quality post will definetly lose that battle.
Legendary/Hero get higher click through rates no question asked but not that they will be able to compete against 10+ shitty posts from regular accounts.
You say this, but do you know where those shitty posts end up in? Sections that nobody reads. Well, nobody except for other fellow shitposters. And they're too busy shitposting to pay attention to the ads. Oops.

Consider: what is the likelihood of a signature ad reaching users that will actually click in the Altcoin section, or one of the Economics megathreads?


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Thule on February 18, 2019, 05:46:12 PM
Its a numbers game.Quantity will always beat at some stage quality.
If somebody replaces 1 quality posts with 50 shitty posts the quality post will definetly lose that battle.
Legendary/Hero get higher click through rates no question asked but not that they will be able to compete against 10+ shitty posts from regular accounts.
You say this, but do you know where those shitty posts end up in? Sections that nobody reads. Well, nobody except for other fellow shitposters. And they're too busy shitposting to pay attention to the ads. Oops.

Consider: what is the likelihood of a signature ad reaching users that will actually click in the Altcoin section, or one of the Economics megathreads?

Main target are noobs so they will reach them anyway no matter which section.Wouldn't they target noobs they wouldn't use legendaries reputation to increase their own credibility.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: actmyname on February 18, 2019, 05:51:33 PM
Main target are noobs so they will reach them anyway no matter which section.
Even new users to Bitcoin won't scour through the scores of shitty posts that permeate throughout the many Bitcoin Discussion and Economics threads. And I assume most new users would enter those nice-sounding board names... to subsequently exit after they see the nonsense that's spouted by "high-ranking" forum members.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: LoyceV on February 18, 2019, 05:52:36 PM
Assuming 9 hours of sleep and 15 hours of posting (every single day, without break) that corresponds to one post every 6.4 minutes at the Legendary rank. Or, one post every 1.3 minutes (76 seconds) at Jr. Member rank.
Maybe Maggiordomo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2340148) can join :D


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Kurohige on February 20, 2019, 10:37:33 PM
I believed this can be consider as stake.com sig spammer. Deadline is near they have to add some efforts to increase their post counts.

http://archive.is/tpwPi 

Issue: Post time interval


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Lauda on February 20, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
I believed this can be consider as stake.com sig spammer. Deadline is near they have to add some efforts to increase their post counts.

http://archive.is/tpwPi 

Issue: Post time interval
This is what happens when you skip hiring real managers such as Hhampuz or Yahoo, but what do I know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: DarkStar_ on February 21, 2019, 01:10:51 AM
I believed this can be consider as stake.com sig spammer. Deadline is near they have to add some efforts to increase their post counts.

http://archive.is/tpwPi 

Issue: Post time interval


Here's 27 posts from a Stake signature spammer in the short span of 35 minutes

https://archive.is/qQbPg


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: mikeywith on February 21, 2019, 03:23:27 AM

probably the fastest 2$ he has ever earned.


 seven2smoke1  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=926641;sa=showPosts;start=0)  suddenly became very intersted in gambling with 10 posts a day ( previous posts show that he is not active there) but thanks to the .001 BTC bonus. ;D


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Lucius on February 21, 2019, 11:47:27 AM
This is what happens when you skip hiring real managers such as Hhampuz or Yahoo, but what do I know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is true, but if you hire experienced managers then signature campaign must have rules that have been introduced in all sig campaigns. Rules are simple, but stake.com is for some reason allow posting in all boards (who and how check posts in local boards?), without a clear determination what is spam or not, and to all users (DT red tag excluded), but completely ignoring the merit system.

I am sure you, Hhampuz or Yahoo would never agree to run a campaign under these rules.



Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Avirunes on February 21, 2019, 01:47:05 PM
I believed this can be consider as stake.com sig spammer. Deadline is near they have to add some efforts to increase their post counts.

http://archive.is/tpwPi 

Issue: Post time interval


Here's 27 posts from a Stake signature spammer in the short span of 35 minutes

https://archive.is/qQbPg

1st week recently ended and this guy won 1st prize of 100$ in contest that was added to the campaign. I have asked Steve to check the posts again.

There are some who posted more than 100 posts and one even posted 180 posts during the 1st week.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 21, 2019, 05:59:43 PM
Hello everyone, I respect the opinion of all, they are really people who have a lot of experience, I am in the process of applying the stake signature, I have noticed that most of the people that live in the stake have a high IQ, they administer information in all areas and, in fact, they are very kind people and some of the content that they publish in the forum are of high quality, it has helped me because there are many investors, I see their points of view on how they think and how they act. And the importance of everything is that we are many people who want to continue growing in this prestigious forum and Mr. Steve is providing opportunities to very valuable people. This is my humble opinion.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: actmyname on February 21, 2019, 07:39:56 PM
Hello everyone, I respect the opinion of all -nip- And the importance of everything is that we are many people who want to continue growing in this prestigious forum and Mr. Steve is providing opportunities to very valuable people. This is my humble opinion.
I don't understand why you needed to write so much to convey so little. Regardless of your English ability, it should be easy to cut down on irrelevancy and redundancy.
(and I see nothing about confronting spam at all, only "stake is a campaign that allows members to earn bitcoin")


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: LoyceV on February 21, 2019, 08:28:09 PM
I don't understand why you needed to write so much to convey so little.
LUCKMCFLY went from 40 posts in 15 days to 40 posts in 3 days since he joined that campaign. That says it all.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 21, 2019, 08:34:22 PM
Hello everyone, I respect the opinion of all -nip- And the importance of everything is that we are many people who want to continue growing in this prestigious forum and Mr. Steve is providing opportunities to very valuable people. This is my humble opinion.
I don't understand why you needed to write so much to convey so little. Regardless of your English ability, it should be easy to cut down on irrelevancy and redundancy.
(and I see nothing about confronting spam at all, only "stake is a campaign that allows members to earn bitcoin")
I'm sorry, but by stating that there are high quality publications made by most users, I am very emphatic to show that there is no spam, except that in any ecosystem there are people of all types, and those who do spam,
will are at risk of be expelled from the campaign, as it is written in the OP. Also, every day, I work to improve my English, it is not necessary to try to humiliate my lack of capacity.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: actmyname on February 21, 2019, 08:35:55 PM
It is evident that you are using a thesaurus. If you had learned the meaning of those words, you would not use them in such a way. Please do not attempt to use language of which you have little understanding.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 21, 2019, 08:36:59 PM
I don't understand why you needed to write so much to convey so little.
LUCKMCFLY went from 40 posts in 15 days to 40 posts in 3 days since he joined that campaign. That says it all.
Thank you very much, but the truth is that I have not been selected yet, and I have the signature and the Avatar because I am an aspiring participant, and well I like the avatar, but check my publications, I think I have been contributing what little I know.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: mikeywith on February 21, 2019, 11:05:23 PM
Thank you very much, but the truth is that I have not been selected yet

so 40 posts in 3 days is warming up?


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: DarkStar_ on February 21, 2019, 11:13:11 PM
Their new requirements are twice as strict  :o

  • 40+ characters per post


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Patatas on February 21, 2019, 11:52:05 PM
Their new requirements are twice as strict  :o

  • 40+ characters per post
Only if that changed a thing. Cunts here will start writing posts with two keyboards to fill that criterion. This is really easy you see, the reward is great but just needs an additional rule to weed out the shit-posters - Minimum of 100 merits achieved to join the campaign.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Findingnemo on February 22, 2019, 05:33:38 AM
What I had noticed is  Stake.com - A signature campaign for everyone! Earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.0;all) don't even have a public spreadhseet of accepted participants and I think they were maintaining that in their telegram or discord channel so is it okay to deal with outside of the forum about the accepted participants?

If yes then we may going to hear more stories like below when they are started spamming ::)
Thank you very much, but the truth is that I have not been selected yet, and I have the signature and the Avatar because I am an aspiring participant, and well I like the avatar, but check my publications, I think I have been contributing what little I know.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Patatas on February 22, 2019, 09:42:26 PM
What I had noticed is  Stake.com - A signature campaign for everyone! Earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.0;all) don't even have a public spreadhseet of accepted participants and I think they were maintaining that in their telegram or discord channel so is it okay to deal with outside of the forum about the accepted participants?
It should be fine to do that but I wonder how do the participants get to know if they have been accepted or how much posts have been counted and stuff? I public sheet is much better than a telegram channel.
I personally find it very shady if someone wants to hide information as insensitive as this behind a telegram channel.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: vit05 on February 23, 2019, 05:12:49 AM
What I had noticed is  Stake.com - A signature campaign for everyone! Earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.0;all) don't even have a public spreadhseet of accepted participants and I think they were maintaining that in their telegram or discord channel so is it okay to deal with outside of the forum about the accepted participants?



They have this sheet from the other campaign (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OGQBpBWDy_2N6flWRmeQ3oJbxSvDXD_rpkbPNMVHo7Q/edit#gid=0). It is possible to see that  Caladonian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=704041) made 109 posts and received 0.0184BTC.

Stake has also some topics on Local Boards. Stake.com Muita Diversão e Lucros em Um Só Lugar! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2707090.200)
 Primedice - Nº 1 Site de Apostas com BTC! 21 bilhões de Bets, 112+ BTC Jackpot! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2660803.0)

@Adriano, who is the moderator of the Portuguese section, have alerted them that this kind of marketing was not so effective. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2707090.msg28814009#msg28814009)It is just one person posting alone, there isn't any conversation or anything.



Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: SyGambler on February 24, 2019, 07:57:05 PM
it's getting unreal if you usually visit the gambling section , I made a post in sportsbet thread about getting limited and waiting for their support to answer me I got 5 replies with stake signatures and all of them just making guesses about the problem

it looks like they are racing to make posts in the gambling section , even stake thread is full of spam now with their participants talking about V2 without even giving any valid info about what's coming with V2
I usually check the thread just to see if Stake is announcing the launch of the sportsbook but all I find is spam


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: marlboroza on February 25, 2019, 01:01:11 AM
Primedice's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.30160) thread has turned into wall observer thread.
Wherever I click I see Stake. This reminds me of "good old" yobit signature days and 20 posts/day  ::)

Can someone tell me what does this mean:

If you are choosing between the waves and ethereum classic. You will better to choose waves remember ethereum is different to ethereum classic.so for me waves coin is the better to choose compared to ETC that is my opinion and I think it is right base to my research.
I'll give 2 merits to first member (without Stake's signature  :)) who deciphers this.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: actmyname on February 25, 2019, 02:04:55 AM
If you are choosing between the waves and ethereum classic. You will better to choose waves remember ethereum is different to ethereum classic.so for me waves coin is the better to choose compared to ETC that is my opinion and I think it is right base to my research.
I'll give 2 merits to first member (without Stake's signature  :)) who deciphers this.
The choice between Waves and Ethereum Classic boils down to this:

Ethereum is different to Ethereum Classic.
Therefore, Waves is the superior choice.

We have

Code:
foo(firstCoin, secondCoin) {
    if (firstCoin != "Ethereum") return secondCoin;
}

foo("Ethereum Classic", "Waves")


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Coolcryptovator on February 25, 2019, 04:23:47 AM
If you are choosing between the waves and ethereum classic. You will better to choose waves remember ethereum is different to ethereum classic.so for me waves coin is the better to choose compared to ETC that is my opinion and I think it is right base to my research.
I'll give 2 merits to first member (without Stake's signature  :)) who deciphers this.
He exactly want to mean that if someone want to choose between waves and ETC then he should choose waves. ETC is not Ethereum means, ETC is a fork of Ethereum. And I am agree with his statement as well. I am not sure if you know that ETC developers was stopped work (https://kryptomoney.com/bad-news-for-ethereum-classic-etcdevs-shut-downs-operations-due-to-price-cash/) on last December due to financial problems. So we can say dev team isn't strong of ETC, although ETC team changed developers (https://mobile.twitter.com/eth_classic/status/1073903748223647746). But this kind of announcement would break investors trust. So over all we can say waves is better then ETC. And for clear confusion, ETC is not ETH. Both platform is different.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Findingnemo on February 25, 2019, 07:52:14 AM
What I had noticed is  Stake.com - A signature campaign for everyone! Earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.0;all) don't even have a public spreadhseet of accepted participants and I think they were maintaining that in their telegram or discord channel so is it okay to deal with outside of the forum about the accepted participants?

If yes then we may going to hear more stories like below when they are started spamming ::)
Thank you very much, but the truth is that I have not been selected yet, and I have the signature and the Avatar because I am an aspiring participant, and well I like the avatar, but check my publications, I think I have been contributing what little I know.

If a campaign don't have any spreadsheet at public,when the participants found spamming they can easily defend that they kicked out that person or even didn't accept them.

I think we need to force the campaign manager to provide a public spreadsheet.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Crypto-DesignService on February 25, 2019, 09:02:28 AM
If you are choosing between the waves and ethereum classic. You will better to choose waves remember ethereum is different to ethereum classic.so for me waves coin is the better to choose compared to ETC that is my opinion and I think it is right base to my research.
I'll give 2 merits to first member (without Stake's signature  :)) who deciphers this.
Maybe this is what he meant.
https://i.imgur.com/jsq2anO.jpg


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: unibitcoinist on February 25, 2019, 11:11:26 AM
it's getting unreal if you usually visit the gambling section , I made a post in sportsbet thread about getting limited and waiting for their support to answer me I got 5 replies with stake signatures and all of them just making guesses about the problem

it looks like they are racing to make posts in the gambling section , even stake thread is full of spam now with their participants talking about V2 without even giving any valid info about what's coming with V2
I usually check the thread just to see if Stake is announcing the launch of the sportsbook but all I find is spam
3 reasons for which we're observing spam like this.
1. 0.001 BTC bonus for posting in Gambling.
2. 2x merit points in Gambling section.
3. The big one- Competition on first page replies. There is a big competition based on first page reply for which users are replying instantly after a thread being posted.

Can someone tell me what does this mean:

If you are choosing between the waves and ethereum classic. You will better to choose waves remember ethereum is different to ethereum classic.so for me waves coin is the better to choose compared to ETC that is my opinion and I think it is right base to my research.
I'll give 2 merits to first member (without Stake's signature  :)) who deciphers this.
It means Campaign Manager isn't professional  :D


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: SyGambler on February 26, 2019, 01:52:50 PM
here another thread with 9 comments so far , literally all of them with stake signatures
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111649.0

it's funny how they are discussing one of the most popular gambling sites in the market (Betonline) and most of them don't even know that site but yet they are giving their opinions (and guesses )  about it

it explains a lot how most of stake participants are discussing gambling stuffs without even having experience just because there is a bonus for the gambling section


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 27, 2019, 12:27:50 AM
here another thread with 9 comments so far , literally all of them with stake signatures
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111649.0

it's funny how they are discussing one of the most popular gambling sites in the market (Betonline) and most of them don't even know that site but yet they are giving their opinions (and guesses )  about it

it explains a lot how most of stake participants are discussing gambling stuffs without even having experience just because there is a bonus for the gambling section
14/16 replies now Stake.com owned


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: mikeywith on February 27, 2019, 12:56:25 AM
Today's challenge;

Find 10 consecutive posts with no stake signature in the gambling section


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Findingnemo on February 27, 2019, 05:23:53 AM
Today's challenge;

Find 10 consecutive posts with no stake signature in the gambling section
Ohh God,Thats mission impossible. :D

https://media.giphy.com/media/1UNFtwPcLcsoFpCwZy/giphy.gif


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: DarkStar_ on February 27, 2019, 06:06:05 AM
Today's challenge;

Find 10 consecutive posts with no stake signature in the gambling section
Ohh God,Thats mission impossible. :D

Just find my posts  :P


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Findingnemo on February 27, 2019, 06:21:47 AM
Just find my posts  :P

Still not possible to find 10 consecutive posts in any thread without stake signature,not only in gambling section they invaded all the sections of Bitcointalk. :o



Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: bones261 on February 27, 2019, 06:35:09 AM
Just find my posts  :P

Still not possible to find 10 consecutive posts in any thread without stake signature,not only in gambling section they invaded all the sections of Bitcointalk. :o



Even the boards that don't display signatures are not safe due to that ultra-annoying avatar.  I'm glad theymos is going to end the insanity. Actually, I don't mind most of the animated avatars, but something about stake.com really hurts my eyes. >:(


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: The Pharmacist on February 27, 2019, 07:07:21 AM
We had a very long lull there without many bitcoin-paying signature campaigns, and now this one pops up with apparently no quality control, and BAM....we're back to the days of Yobit and Secondstrade.  Crazy how one campaign can lead to so much forum pollution, but there you have it.

We talked about having some sort of minimum standards for campaign managers, but I think we got lulled into thinking we actually started to improve without any restrictions on campaigns--sadly I don't think that's the case.  Imagine if there were multiple campaigns like this running simultaneously.  You know damn well every spammer in the world would have their whole families engaged in writing shitposts.  Just like the bad old days (which weren't even that long ago).


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: asche on February 27, 2019, 08:43:29 AM
Somehow we did manage to get a thread here in reputation without much stake posts :)


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Lucius on February 27, 2019, 11:46:37 AM
~snip!

They (stake.com) are doing what they are allowed to do, and except this thread and few post in their signature threads I do not see that even one DT member marked manager account with red tag for as title say encouraging spam.

YoBit and BitMixer signature campaign are both running with bot, because of that it was not possible to control spam. But then Lauda is took over BitMixer and hilariousandco YoBit (if memory serves me good), and both problems were quickly and efficiently solved.

There is always a way to fix the bad things, but there is not always enough willingness to do that.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: LoyceV on February 27, 2019, 11:53:22 AM
I do not see that even one DT member marked manager account with red tag for as title say encouraging spam.
DT shouldn't tag accounts accounts for things that should be handled by Mods. That's not only spam but also plagiarism, merit abuse and ban evasion, and from what I've seen, most DT members don't tag this anymore.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: morvillz7z on February 27, 2019, 12:19:27 PM
Today's challenge;
Find 10 consecutive posts with no stake signature in the gambling section

Does 'Gambling discussion' count towards their bonus?

If so, I found a topic that has two consecutive pages with zero posts from stake signature related accounts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110454.120  Pages 6 and 7



Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: coinlocket$ on February 27, 2019, 04:41:42 PM
I was thinking to apply there, the payout is very high my in comparison to my actual signature. (I had no luck so far to join good campaigns)

I will wait 2 weeks when I will hit hero rank and I will see.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Coolcryptovator on February 27, 2019, 07:48:06 PM
Intention of my post was to invite them and share our thoughts to prevent spam from forum. At the beginning their response was fine. But its seems they have chosen different way to promote and spam over forum. To be honest their spammy activity increased more than before. They should think again about their promotional strategy. Everyone free to advertise here any valid site, it doesn't mean they are free to encourage spam on this forum.

I would like to suggest them reconsider about their promotional strategy and help build a decent forum. SteveStake should visit this thread once again to make a strong and quality promotion.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: 1miau on February 27, 2019, 11:37:33 PM
I was thinking to apply there, the payout is very high my in comparison to my actual signature. (I had no luck so far to join good campaigns)
Me too, I think if they adjust the campaign a little bit it can get a very good one. Adding 1 required Merit per week to get a payout or limiting the total posts per week would be fine. The spreadsheet is not public, so I don't know how many users were disqualified or not accepted.
They pay up to $100 per week to the most constructive posters and the competition isn't very high to make the first place, but I didn't see the spreadsheet yet. I'll check out their Telegram, have a look at the spreadsheet and give it a try tomorrow.

I will wait 2 weeks when I will hit hero rank and I will see.
I don't know how long they will run the campaign, they have many participants and much to pay. Most likely they won't run it very long because it could be only a temporary promotion for Stake v2.


I would like to suggest them reconsider about their promotional strategy and help build a decent forum. SteveStake should visit this thread once again to make a strong and quality promotion.
Payments per 10 posts could also be done like this: If someone is doing x posts per week, the amount paid in BTC will be lower for every 10 comments the more you post per week. First 50 comments for e.g. Member get .0003 BTC per 10 posts, the next 50 posts get .00015 BTC per 10 posts and so on...


10 - 50 posts per week:

Jr/Member - .0003 BTC per 10 posts
Full/Sr. member - .0008 BTC per 10 post
Hero/Legendary - .0012 BTC per 10 posts

51 - 100 posts per week:

Jr/Member - .00015 BTC per 10 posts
Full/Sr. member - .0004 BTC per 10 post
Hero/Legendary - .008 BTC per 10 posts

100 - 250 posts per week:

Jr/Member - .00005 BTC per 10 posts
Full/Sr. member - .00015 BTC per 10 post
Hero/Legendary - .00025 BTC per 10 posts

More than 250 posts per week won't be paid.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: actmyname on February 28, 2019, 04:59:43 AM
(all calculations assume $4k/BTC for round numbers)

I would not have anything above 100 posts/week, and I personally find that very generous in terms of how many quality posts one can output on a weekly basis.

Unless they're dedicating serious time into the forum to churn out content consistently, it's absolutely insane to assume that the average user is able to create that many quality posts.

Moreover, if they are dedicating such a large amount of their time into it, they wouldn't do it for peanuts (exceptions being forum fanatics). If we assume an average of 10 minutes to construct a quality post, that means that they're getting about $2/hr. (for reference, it took me ~12 focused minutes to do the research and writing of this post)

I don't like to think of signature campaigns as jobs because forced posts decrease quality but this is the only way I can portray the inefficacy of the system.

Quality users won't post for $2/hr.
Shitposters won't, either. Because they can churn out dozens of posts every time they log on by scanning through random general/vague threads, creating some half-assed reply they garner from reading either the thread title or some other shitposter's reply.

Repeating what has already been said or stating some obvious (or even, wrong) conclusion about a general topic adds nothing to the thread... but it's easy to do and it's quick to do. If I were to go down this path, I imagine I could hit at least one post per minute, easy. Incoherent rambling and repetition can pad a reply so even character limits or simple guards against one-liners won't really suffice.

When I factor that amount of time into it, this can easily reach $24/hr. This is nearly double that of the highest minimum wage in the US ($13.25) and is definitely something that people in poorer cultures would love to be a part of.
    
Imagine living in an area where the cost of living for the average person each month is half of what you earn every week ($400). You would be a king with one account, never mind the multiple ones that account farmers surely have in the Stake campaign.

In fact, if you did have multiple accounts and you decided to put in the estimated ~16 hours/week per account into the campaign, you would have an income higher than that of GDP/capita United States with just three thereof. That is, 3 accounts at 50 hours/week nets you $62,400 before tax.

I'm vehemently against using accounts in this way but the reality is that it happens and for good reason: it's "easy money"... to people who don't care about the forum degradation.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Findingnemo on February 28, 2019, 06:28:07 AM
Here is an announcement from stevestake which maybe happening due to this thread?
Some people will be replaced today after payouts for anyone waiting to get in

But I think they need to make adjustments in their requirements to get weekly rewards like having maximum paid post and keep the participants list in public which I am insisting for many times here.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: nutildah on February 28, 2019, 02:19:57 PM
Nobody writes more than 100 quality posts a week -- nobody.

I admit the amount of BTC they pay is compelling but I wouldn't want to be associated with what looks to be an all-you-can spam contest.

For instance, both of these by Tamilson are just awful, I bolded the most telling parts:

I'm a coinomi user since 2017 and got no problem with that, so far. My biggest fund there was around $5k and didn't worry about hacking issue since I have a passphrase. But your story is different from mine since you imported your passphrase from exodus wallet and maybe someone had spotted this since you really have decent amount.

I'm not a techy person so I can't say anything, I just feel sorry for your money that seems no getting back.
And if there will further update what coinomi has to say please keep us posted here.

You probably didn't read my post very well. Coinomi's wallet simply takes your passphrase and spell checks it with a remote server!

Sort of since it's lengthy, lol. Well I really thought that it's exodus the importing that triggered everything, pardon me on that. So earlier, had checked those links in the OP since honestly I'm in coinomi's side ( sorry again ) but upon reading all those links I found out these are all true ( especially those reddit posts ). Maybe I trusted it too much and ain't aware those "backdoors".

I'm having my thoughts right now which wallets are safe since even a hardware wallet can be tampered upon shipping.

He's commenting gibberish over an extremely serious problem (guy lost $60k worth of coins). Then doubled down after the OP corrected him, for the sake of racking up 1 more post.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Lucius on February 28, 2019, 03:41:00 PM
Nobody writes more than 100 quality posts a week -- nobody.

Stake.com is not expressly seeking quality posts, but has a completely different approach how signature campaign should be set up. Just read the introduction from their OP :

Quote
Why this campaign is better than the rest

The most beneficial part of this campaign is we aren't going to limit you on where you can and can't post. Unlike in other campaigns, posts made in all sections of Bitcointalk will be counted! After looking through every signature campaign and managing one myself I've found it can be difficult for people to make high quality posts when they're limited to posting in only a few sections. This results in forced conversation and low quality posts simply because someone has to meet a required post count in a certain section. This campaign will promote organic conversations that you actually want to be part of and allow you to effortlessly accumulate high post counts.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.0

Everything bolded is more than an invitation to spam, with total disregard for Signature Campaign Guidelines (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0), where we can read a lot of useful things, such as this part :

Quote
Signature Campaigns are a great way to introduce your business and advertise your services to the bitcoin ecosystem but this cannot be abused by you paying people to make poor contributions en masse. As a signature campaign operator you will ultimately be held responsible for the quality of posts of users bearing your signature advertisement and you will need to monitor your users closely or it will be quickly abused. If you are running a campaign and it becomes blatantly obvious to Staff that you are doing little to nothing to stop spam on your campaign you will be issued a PM warning by a Global Moderator that you need to make immediate improvements to curb low-quality posts. You will have 7 days to remove low-quality posters and respond to the message detailing what you are going to do to make changes to your campaign to reduce the amount of spam. If improvements are not noticeable within 21 days of that and Staff do not believe you are doing enough to prevent low quality posts your signatures will be blacklisted from the forum by an Admin and you will no longer be permitted to advertise here in such a way.

So we have some rules, and if there is no improvements in the given time, Staff has all the power to close this campaign.



Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: morvillz7z on February 28, 2019, 04:12:21 PM
They also have a merit contest with prizes. Check the last two topics for merit abuse in reputation, seems like they are going against one another:

Quintrix (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115109.0) stake signature
wilburwilbur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114255.0) stake signature. Things backfired against PryptoMontreal (topic starter stake signature)who was caught handing himself merit from an alt account.

Overall, not well thought out campaign with low to zero control that encourages spam and indirectly merit abuse.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: coinlocket$ on February 28, 2019, 04:26:03 PM
They also have a merit contest with prizes. Check the last two topics for merit abuse in reputation, seems like they are going against one another:

Quintrix (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115109.0) stake signature
wilburwilbur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114255.0) stake signature. Things backfired against PryptoMontreal (topic starter stake signature)who was caught handing himself merit from an alt account.

Overall, not well thought out campaign with low to zero control that encourages spam and indirectly merit abuse.


LOL, no comment. He whined about abusers and he also abused it, shall we tag them all?  ???

Should be fun if we can get access to the spreadsheet.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 28, 2019, 08:07:37 PM
This thread has served its purpose as far as being an avenue to discuss the Stake campaign. Further discussion IMO would only be considered signature spam as everything that can be said, pretty much already has been said.

Campaigns like this are the communities fault. The site is not to blame IMO, at least not right out of the gate. You the community have the choice whether or not to join a signature campaign. Well, you have the choice on whether to apply. Most users are looking to make a buck wearing an advertisement, and don't really care about the community or bitcointalk. They want to make money. There's no shame in that, but spitting out 100 posts in 3 days is ridiculous. You the user have the choice on what sort of community member you want to be. A douchebag spammer or a person who takes pride in being a member here.

If the community joined the campaign and did not have the intention of making the max number of weekly accepted posts, then everything would be fine. That's just not how it is though. You have multiple farmers and account buyers who fuck shit up.

I'm not a fan of tagging users for signature spam unless they are blatantly doing it for monetary gain only. This to me is the community and moderators job. We the community should use the report to moderator button and report posts you think are off topic, and moderators will ban the accounts they feel are abusing the system. If we the community
isn't reporting posts, how do we expect the moderators to help out?

At what point is the site or manager to blame?

IMO the manager or site becomes at fault once the problem has been brought to their attention, and they fail to take action.

Here is an announcement from stevestake which maybe happening due to this thread?
Some people will be replaced today after payouts for anyone waiting to get in



Here you clearly see the manager is taking action. What I do not like is the fact that we cannot see who is or who is not in the campaign. I believe that since the campaign is being run on this platform, then the community should have access to see the spreadsheet for the campaign. It should be publicly listed in the campaign thread. That's how it has always been for transparency as well as gives scam hunters a way to see who is breaking rules or cheating campaigns. Some might say that is for the manager to decide, not the community. Obviously my opinion differs.

Why is the spreadsheet not my business? What is it hurting by not being public?

I think by the spreadsheet not being public, Stake/PD (I assume both connected due to same owners/Mods) are putting themselves at risk for being tagged due to running a shady campaign. We the community can see a billion posts with the Stake sig, but we do not know if they are in the Stake campaign. So for all we know, Stake is supporting the spammers. With a public spreadsheet we can decipher who is or isn't in the campaign and tag appropriately.

It's kinda shady to keep everything hidden honestly. I can see not sharing details about the website for the public, but this is a spreadsheet about bitcointalk. Only thing people are going to see is how you manage participants in a signature campaign. Only details we see are stats about bitcointalk users.

Websites may feel this is invasive to en extent, but too bad. You choose to use the bitcointalk community as a platform to advertise, you must adhere to some of the stipulations of using this platform. I like community opinion on this question. Should a spreadsheet being public, be a mandatory requirement? Maybe we need a separate topic for this question alone?

So what do we do now?

Either tag them, or move on. Discussing it for another month is going to achieve nothing. Whether or not you can see a spreadsheet, you can still be reporting posts and letting the chips fall where they may.

This could be 100% users fault here if Steve removes all the spammers that have been accepted. We don't know who is in or who isn't either way, so reporting posts is a must at this point.

This is all i'm going to post for now

Off Topic portion of this post

Poll has been created for users to express opinions  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115487.0



Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Coolcryptovator on February 28, 2019, 09:30:04 PM
I like community opinion on this question. Should a spreadsheet being public, be a mandatory requirement?
Should be, since signature campaign is forum related, spreadsheet should be on public. Never mind if they promote their project on other platform for advertisement like FB and Twitter bounty, that case we should not bother ourselves. But signature campaign is directly on forum and we have right to see their participant.    

Maybe we need a separate topic for this question alone?
Open separate topic with poll would be better option. Feel free to create one if you are not busy.

Either tag them, or move on. Discussing it for another month is going to achieve nothing
I am not agree to tag participant only for spam post if they are not promoting scam. But owner or manager deserve tag in my opinions since they are choosing new way to spam on forum and they keep it hidden.  


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: morvillz7z on February 28, 2019, 09:52:59 PM
I think a link to a public spreadsheet has just been added - here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OGQBpBWDy_2N6flWRmeQ3oJbxSvDXD_rpkbPNMVHo7Q/edit#gid=1373140560)

There seems to be 3x as many people wearing their signatures and not reflected in this table, maybe someone (manager ::)) should tell them they won't be paid so no need to spew 50 posts a day.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on March 01, 2019, 07:17:37 AM
I think a link to a public spreadsheet has just been added - here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OGQBpBWDy_2N6flWRmeQ3oJbxSvDXD_rpkbPNMVHo7Q/edit#gid=1373140560)

There seems to be 3x as many people wearing their signatures and not reflected in this table, maybe someone (manager ::)) should tell them they won't be paid so no need to spew 50 posts a day.

The spreadsheet is the first signature campaign that was made by stake.com https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5092506.0 and recently he closed the signature campaign.

This campaign is currently closed.

But for the new signature campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.0 he hasn't include a spreadsheet.



Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: marlboroza on March 03, 2019, 01:37:16 PM
Anyone likes Ice cream?
My favorite flavor is cookies and cream,
And the most unusual flavor that I heard is chilli flavor but I haven't tried it yet.

This one is even better, 87 posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1569501;sa=showPosts;start=80) yesterday, mostly one liners in local board and only 1 post in gambling section, surprisingly, they are shilling hard for Stake in Stake's thread:
I definitely recommend stake.com. Why ?. Because the prime dice game is great and almost addictive. If you want to have quality and a good time, definitely visit stake.com.
This reminds me of "buy waves because ethereum is different than ethereum classic" post (http://url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111069.msg49906875#msg49906875)  :)


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: deisik on March 03, 2019, 01:46:17 PM
Anyone likes Ice cream?
My favorite flavor is cookies and cream,
And the most unusual flavor that I heard is chilli flavor but I haven't tried it yet.

This one is even better, 87 posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1569501;sa=showPosts;start=80) yesterday, mostly one liners in local board and only 1 post in gambling section

Why do I not see him tagged as a signature spammer yet?


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: asche on March 03, 2019, 01:51:08 PM
Why do I not see him tagged as a signature spammer yet?

Maybe because it is hardly a valid reason to tag someone...

But maybe you are referring to the spreadsheet?


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: morvillz7z on March 03, 2019, 02:11:10 PM
I guess he's angry he got tagged as a sig spammer by Lucius for making huge amount of posts per week.

Obviously, there are much worse spammers out there and no one is tagging them (deisik you can do it yourself) for spamming i.e accounts mentioned by marlboroza.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: marlboroza on March 03, 2019, 02:17:46 PM
Why do I not see him tagged as a signature spammer yet?
Well, xvids's post technically isn't spam because it is posted in Off-Topic in thread about Ice cream (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5078574.0)  ;D

ripplecanavari (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1569501) on the other hand is spamming and this is spam burst:
https://i.imgur.com/vtqvI9r.png
https://i.imgur.com/89bysSE.png
https://i.imgur.com/TuaIdwO.png
https://i.imgur.com/ghAgN5g.png
...and should be handled by moderator.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: asche on March 03, 2019, 02:42:47 PM
Why do I not see him tagged as a signature spammer yet?
Well, xvids's post technically isn't spam because it is posted in Off-Topic in thread about Ice cream (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5078574.0)  ;D

ripplecanavari (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1569501) on the other hand is spamming and this is spam burst:
https://i.imgur.com/vtqvI9r.png
https://i.imgur.com/89bysSE.png
https://i.imgur.com/TuaIdwO.png
https://i.imgur.com/ghAgN5g.png
...and should be handled by moderator.

Reporting these as well. Let's hope they get removed before payday.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: coinlocket$ on April 08, 2019, 05:57:05 PM
Well, I have no comment about this, a scammer opened a thread and right after the spam started I don't know how these users posting without looking Op posthistory and feedbacks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129519.new#new

http://archive.fo/NL6U5


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Quickseller on April 08, 2019, 06:31:50 PM
Well, I have no comment about this, a scammer opened a thread and right after the spam started I don't know how these users posting without looking Op posthistory and feedbacks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129519.new#new

http://archive.fo/NL6U5
The first two guys were warning anyone potentially reading the thread about the dangers of using that link/casino. The third posted what amounts to nonsense.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: marlboroza on May 05, 2019, 09:12:20 AM
How to exactly report spammer?

This person probably forget that they already posted this in "Suggest me some gambling site" thread http://archive.is/AKuvE:

You can find out the good Gambling website by searching Google itself. I think it's just such a poster here fools. You can find yourself a lot of good gambling websites. And there are many types of gambling websites on the internet. You can play gambling at the place you like. You can find out the Gambling website by watching the Gambling website's review. So I think it's better to search for myself.

Thank you

Ok, they got link, so it is better to post it again:

I have given some gambling sites link. Here you will find the top five gambling sites. All these gambling sites are good quality and reputed sites. These sites offer a deposit bonus to their users. If you go to the link given below, you can get all the information about these sites. You can also find a good quality gambling site by searching from Google itself. And you can find out the best gambling site by seeing all the reviews of the site.

https://www.gamblingsites.com/

Damnit, no one probably noticed this so Coin-Desk had to repeat it again:

Now, many gambling sites are available online so you can search google by yourself and find gambling sites. Still, I'm giving some top-rated gambling site links below. From here you can easily choose your favorite gambling site. From this link, you will get all the information that you need. These gambling sites offer bonuses on deposits. Select the link below with your choice.
Thank You

https://www.gamblingsites.com/

This is better, shilling hard for Stake:

I think Stake.com is the best betting site. Stake.com is probably the most popular and secure betting site this period. There are many interesting games here that entertain the player and also work as a good way to earn money. I've been using Stake.com since the beginning and Stake.com is my best experience and the place to enjoy. There are many fun features here, and its graphics have been considered to be of great quality to me. Stake.com also provides the facility with withdrawal and deposit. I think considering all aspects of Stake.com is the best betting site.

Thank You

From my side, Stake.com is the best casino site. I've used many casino sites but I like Stake.com which I'm still using the most. It is most likely the safest site for Casino and popular. I have not encountered any scam till now, from Stake.com. Apart from Casino Games, there are many games at Stake.com that people will get money and entertainment. Considering all aspects, I thought it was best as Stake.com Casino site.

Probably being the best and Fairest online gambling site is Stake.com. I've been using Stake.com for a long time and I have thought this gambling site was the best and fairest. There are many fun games here that can be enjoyed by enjoying entertainment and financially. Besides, I've used other gambling sites but my favorite place is Stake.com. I have never accepted any type of fraud from Stake.com, so the best and fairest gambling site for me is Stake.com.

Thank You

Stake.com is a very good online gambling site. I also use stake.com here as well as many types of games, such as mining, gambling, poker, dice. This is probably the best online gambling site of this period. This site has been very trustworthy because I have used this site for a few days and I never faced any scam here. I have used many gambling sites but my favourite place is Stake.com.

Yes, Stake.com is very popular Bitcoin Casino. This is probably the most popular Bitcoin Casino of this period. Here casino is one of the many games that players can enjoy in entertainment and financially. I played Casino on many sites but my favorite place is stake.com. It is also safe to play a site Casino Games.Stake.com is a well-reputed casino site that offers many benefits to the player and its graphic design is also very good quality.

My favorite poker site is Stake.com. I use this online site. I've used many poker sites but my favorite site is Stake.com. It is most likely a safe site and popular, here too many games are available. Also, the design and technical aspects of this site are well-stocked. Here are the deposit arrangement and quick cash extraction. Considering all aspects, my favorite site is Stake.com. Many may have different looks but my choice is to share.com.

This reminds me of old spammers writing "bitcoin is great because bitcoin is money of the future and in future bitcoin will become bigger and that is why I like bitcoin for future"


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on May 05, 2019, 04:05:00 PM
How to exactly report spammer?

This most likely is an alt account of his : Sent 4 merits (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5081113.msg48495667#msg48495667) to the account for an undeserving replies the OP of that thread that ask for the suggestion isn't ok with. Also alcoholboy is spamming in the same manner with the stake signature and Thank you conclusion.

In my opinion, gambling tactics. The more tactics that can be used in gambling, the more win will be there.
Suppose you take a gamble with Bitcoin, where you win, you get double bit key.
And if you can fit the strategy here, but you can win that gambling.
So gambling is the key strategy.

Thank You

In my opinion, gambling tactics. The more tactics that can be used in gambling, the more win will be there.
Suppose you take a gamble with Bitcoin, where you win, you get double bit key.
And if you can fit the strategy here, but you can win that gambling.
So gambling is the key strategy.

Thank You

In my opinion, you cannot do the right to spend the daily expense by gambling. Because the future of gambling is always uncertain. Sometimes you will win and you can never breath yourself. So I will tell you where there is no future for you, labor is the most futile. And the daily expenses should be far away!

Thank You

Yes course, gambling is entertainment. People enjoy gambling for entertainment. Gambling is just to play for fun. But many people play gambling in earning money. But gambling is not good for earning money. Money is needed to play gambling. However, it is best to invest a little amount of money in gambling. To play gambling for entertainment, invest a small amount of money.

Thank you

Yes, I agree with you on that point Bitcoin is the chain of knowledge. Inspired by Bitcoin, all the other coins came to the market. Bitcoin basically major coins Bitcoin has started earning people through Bitcoin since coming to the market. Bitcoin is the main source of income for many. Bitcoin has created employment for many. So I will say Bitcoin is the real hero

Thank you


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: coinlocket$ on May 05, 2019, 04:15:50 PM
Maybe @suchmoon can scarpe everyone who is wearing the signature and regroup them for them as did with the yobit one?


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: marlboroza on May 05, 2019, 06:33:41 PM
This most likely is an alt account of his : Sent 4 merits (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5081113.msg48495667#msg48495667) to the account for an undeserving replies the OP of that thread that ask for the suggestion isn't ok with. Also alcoholboy is spamming in the same manner with the stake signature and Thank you conclusion.
Unfortunately I don't have too much time to search for more accounts of this abuser, but here is another one:

~
ETH Address:   0x0d460BE45B3c341A654027ca486141F2549088e4

Bitcointalk username: Coin-Desk
Did you join a bounty: Yes
ETH address: 0x0d460BE45B3c341A654027ca486141F2549088e4
Facebook post link : https://www.facebook.com/100031316000886/posts/115147346205798/

And, of course, there is more https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119455.0, Rafie35 is already tagged.

And, of course:
Your channel name /  youtube profil : Mariana White

Channel link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNdC6zI8-6MhTeLv0ZZzzmQ

Your BTC address : 3FN6CCqfSnajqhU1zLxYiZHwdgRK5jGCy2

Done

Your channel link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA0P90ozgX0rxZGJb-OxvpQ
Your BTC address: 34v1LUrkBBwwFjFLBVsHeQa6mTzgtL9Vc9

Alcoholboy is Mariana White while Rafie35 is Alica Brown, I am sure somewhere on the forum there are Joana Black, Sarah Grey and all other generated names.

Reporting alcohol boy as well.

Update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg22334499#msg22334499 more alts  ::)

Update 2:

https://i.imgur.com/2KiBVU5.png

I am not sure why alcoholboy texted me to remove negative tag from account, as I can see account alcoholboy is not tagged (yet)  ;D


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: suchmoon on May 05, 2019, 09:04:52 PM
Maybe @suchmoon can scarpe everyone who is wearing the signature and regroup them for them as did with the yobit one?

Do you mean like this? (trust scores may be out of date - let me know if that's important and I'll re-scrape; post count / length is for the last 7 days)


   #  User                    BPIP Rank       Posts  AvgLen   Merit         DT score 
   1. Adriano2010 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=514126)             BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Adriano2010) Hero         262     227      11 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/514126.html)                  
   2. okala (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1108241)                   BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=okala) Full         222     330       4 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1108241.html)                  
   3. rijaljun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1004807)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=rijaljun) Sr.          199     335       8 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1004807.html)                  
   4. Ailmand (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=770367)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Ailmand) Hero         194     344                          
   5. ripplecanavari (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1569501)          BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=ripplecanavari) Member       194     215      21 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1569501.html)                  
   6. bitcoin31 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=847476)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=bitcoin31) Hero         193     344       4 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/847476.html)                  
   7. Haunebu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=218075)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Haunebu) Hero         180     308      30 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/218075.html)                  
   8. CryptoBry (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=994859)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=CryptoBry) Sr.          148     674      27 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/994859.html)                  
   9. feryjhie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=329895)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=feryjhie) Hero         139     269       8 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/329895.html)                  
  10. Genemind (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=774789)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Genemind) Sr.          139     338       1 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/774789.html)                  
  11. traderethereum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=837151)          BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=traderethereum) Hero         137     498       6 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/837151.html)                  
  12. Catmurs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1817406)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Catmurs) Jr.          135     156       1 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1817406.html)                  
  13. pinoycash (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=369376)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=pinoycash) Hero         135     287      11 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/369376.html)                  
  14. Bitinity (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=449846)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Bitinity) Legendary    131     387      53 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/449846.html)                  
  15. otto_diesel (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951020)             BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=otto_diesel) Sr.          123     339      33 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/951020.html)                  
  16. lossnet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1105358)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=lossnet) Full         122     449      22 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1105358.html)                  
  17. Ximoandali (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2173628)              BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Ximoandali) Jr.          122     159       1 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/2173628.html)                  
  18. blockman (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816893)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=blockman) Hero         121     381       7 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/816893.html)                  
  19. mrdeposit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=77867)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=mrdeposit) Hero         121     213       3 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/77867.html)                  
  20. xvids (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=948175)                   BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=xvids) Sr.          113     326      11 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/948175.html)                  
  21. Danslip (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=338843)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Danslip) Hero          93     178       4 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/338843.html)                  
  22. markstivn98 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2536129)             BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=markstivn98) Member        91     185      13 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/2536129.html)                  
  23. Beerwizzard (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1063803)             BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Beerwizzard) Full          89     445      21 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1063803.html)                  
  24. cryptjh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1188761)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=cryptjh) Full          85     304      14 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1188761.html)                  
  25. jak3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555318)                    BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=jak3) Legendary     85     426       4 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/555318.html)                  
  26. BeGoods (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=452876)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=BeGoods) Legendary     79     301       8 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/452876.html)                  
  27. gospodin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1339358)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=gospodin) Full          78     311     143 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1339358.html)                  
  28. Zythiphill (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2222336)              BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Zythiphill) Jr.           75     157       1 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/2222336.html)                  
  29. Pattart (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=132673)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Pattart) Hero          71     283                          
  30. bitcoin-shark (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=843439)           BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=bitcoin-shark) Hero          65     201       8 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/843439.html)                  
  31. erikalui (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=141005)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=erikalui) Legendary     62     289       1 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/141005.html)      20: -0 / +2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=141005) 
  32. pushups44 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=972961)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=pushups44) Sr.           62     352       6 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/972961.html)                  
  33. pey (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1003871)                     BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=pey) Sr.           60     243       1 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1003871.html)                  
  34. nauane (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=380866)                  BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=nauane) Full          59     316                          
  35. BossMacko (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=544422)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=BossMacko) Hero          58     263       2 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/544422.html)                  
  36. Script3d (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=697888)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Script3d) Hero          58     271       3 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/697888.html)                  
  37. steveabrahams (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=914450)           BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=steveabrahams) Sr.           54     310       2 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/914450.html)                  
  38. coin-investor (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=891131)           BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=coin-investor) Hero          53     335       2 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/891131.html)                  
  39. Daniel91 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=334636)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Daniel91) Legendary     52     351      45 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/334636.html)                  
  40. Yakamoto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=325035)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Yakamoto) Legendary     50     931       6 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/325035.html)                  
  41. edisystem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1041497)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=edisystem) Full          49     315       1 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1041497.html)                  
  42. Landak (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=462517)                  BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Landak) Hero          49     323       3 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/462517.html)                  
  43. Bitcotalk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=757456)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Bitcotalk) Hero          48     468      17 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/757456.html)                  
  44. tsaroz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=198837)                  BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=tsaroz) Legendary     48     316      11 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/198837.html)                  
  45. Astvile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=862738)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Astvile) Sr.           46     276      14 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/862738.html)                  
  46. bhabygrim (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=981553)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=bhabygrim) Sr.           46     262                          
  47. big_daddy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=257004)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=big_daddy) Full          46     286     122 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/257004.html)                  
  48. dark08 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1082374)                  BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=dark08) Full          45     287       4 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1082374.html)                  
  49. jakelyson (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555534)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=jakelyson) Legendary     44     314       4 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/555534.html)                  
  50. Cosbycoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=41735)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Cosbycoin) Hero          43     453       5 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/41735.html)                  
  51. Malsetid (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663142)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Malsetid) Hero          43     386       2 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/663142.html)                  
  52. redsun114 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558226)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=redsun114) Hero          43     446       3 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/558226.html)                  
  53. ricardobs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558313)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=ricardobs) Hero          43     472       4 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/558313.html)                  
  54. Osarman (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=776393)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Osarman) Hero          42     446       3 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/776393.html)                  
  55. Kiweikoo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=152850)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Kiweikoo) Hero          41     447                          
  56. OrangeSeller (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=450617)            BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=OrangeSeller) Hero          41     461       1 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/450617.html)                  
  57. starblocks (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=361524)              BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=starblocks) Hero          41     452       2 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/361524.html)                  
  58. SirLancelot (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525060)             BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=SirLancelot) Hero          40     478       3 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/525060.html)                  
  59. neonshium (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554221)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=neonshium) Hero          39     450      15 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/554221.html)                  
  60. MakeMoneyBtc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=890476)            BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=MakeMoneyBtc) Full          37     395      11 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/890476.html)                  
  61. Alpinat (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=729496)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Alpinat) Sr.           36     284                          
  62. Wakhid Mukti (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=820106)            BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Wakhid Mukti) Full          35     432                          
  63. lyks15 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1126017)                  BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=lyks15) Full          34     344                          
  64. niisarearning (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=988719)           BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=niisarearning) Sr.           34     269       2 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/988719.html)                  
  65. n0ne (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26401)                    BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=n0ne) Hero          31     410       8 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/26401.html)                  
  66. Coin-Desk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2507716)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Coin-Desk) Member        30     444      10 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/2507716.html)                  
  67. yesiam6 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=211163)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=yesiam6) Hero          30     305       5 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/211163.html)                  
  68. YuginKadoya (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=542292)             BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=YuginKadoya) Legendary     29     642      20 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/542292.html)                  
  69. bakasabo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1730428)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=bakasabo) Member        26     536      45 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1730428.html)                  
  70. Akshat21 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1929411)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Akshat21) Jr.           24     220       1 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1929411.html)                  
  71. jakezyrus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1080167)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=jakezyrus) Full          23     479                          
  72. vennali (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=152469)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=vennali) Legendary     23     375       3 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/152469.html)                  
  73. bitbollo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=364070)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=bitbollo) Legendary     22     361      28 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/364070.html)                  
  74. DreamStage (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=389851)              BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=DreamStage) Sr.           22     389       3 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/389851.html)                  
  75. rdbase (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=374628)                  BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=rdbase) Full          22     391      58 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/374628.html)                  
  76. smyslov (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=924304)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=smyslov) Sr.           21     341       1 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/924304.html)                  
  77. Yarex (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1217132)                   BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Yarex) Member        21     238       1 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1217132.html)                  
  78. alcoholboy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2498684)              BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=alcoholboy) Jr.           19     348       4 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/2498684.html)                  
  79. casper77 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=73499)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=casper77) Legendary     19     256       3 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/73499.html)                  
  80. steampunkz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=944644)              BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=steampunkz) Sr.           19     180      18 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/944644.html)                  
  81. MarioV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=866540)                  BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=MarioV) Hero          18     225       9 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/866540.html)                  
  82. rarkenin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=104529)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=rarkenin) Hero          18     207                          
  83. Mike Mayor (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836754)              BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Mike Mayor) Hero          15     380      10 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/836754.html)                  
  84. Symphonized (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1928906)             BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Symphonized) Member        15     893      14 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1928906.html)                  
  85. kurian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1045367)                  BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=kurian) Full          14     308                          
  86. XinXan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=440960)                  BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=XinXan) Hero          14     400       5 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/440960.html)                  
  87. 7788bitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=395871)             BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=7788bitcoin) Legendary     13     430                          
  88. franckuestein (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=225121)           BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=franckuestein) Staff         12     648      62 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/225121.html)      10: -0 / +1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=225121) 
  89. ASHLIUSZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=798271)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=ASHLIUSZ) Hero          11     344       2 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/798271.html)                  
  90. Cent21 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854571)                  BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Cent21) Hero          11     241      22 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/854571.html)                  
  91. pinoyden (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1047959)                BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=pinoyden) Full          11     504       2 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1047959.html)                  
  92. StephenJH (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=86939)               BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=StephenJH) Hero          11     201       1 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/86939.html)                  
  93. Vaskiy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=452049)                  BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Vaskiy) Legendary     11     359       4 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/452049.html)                  
  94. KennyR (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=110570)                  BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=KennyR) Hero          10     346       1 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/110570.html)                  
  95. Nadziratel (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=95619)              BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Nadziratel) Sr.           10     238       6 (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/95619.html)                  
  96. basyang (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=986087)                 BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=basyang) Full           9     356                          
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Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on May 05, 2019, 09:41:58 PM
I am not sure why alcoholboy texted me to remove negative tag from account, as I can see account alcoholboy is not tagged (yet)  ;D
Lol, alcoholboy must be really so drunk to distinguish between his alts right now  ;D


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: coinlocket$ on May 05, 2019, 09:52:48 PM
Maybe @suchmoon can scarpe everyone who is wearing the signature and regroup them for them as did with the yobit one?

Do you mean like this? (trust scores may be out of date - let me know if that's important and I'll re-scrape; post count / length is for the last 7 days)



Ty, this is enough maybe if you can add also their rank is better but if it takes too much don't worry.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: suchmoon on May 05, 2019, 10:05:46 PM
Ty, this is enough maybe if you can add also their rank is better but if it takes too much don't worry.

Updated the list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111069.msg50914222#msg50914222


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: stompix on May 06, 2019, 12:27:21 AM
Is stake.com paying for posts in off-topic?

This guy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2173628) and this one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1817406) seems to post only one-liners in there, joined the campaign one day apart, battling for the lowest word/post average with 156 vs 159 and some very insightful posts like this one.

You need to get the girl invested in you emotionally , do not need to call her make a competition for her , and less love her and show attention

And they both received 1 merit from Cialix (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1947568.html)


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: DarkStar_ on May 06, 2019, 03:01:33 AM
Is stake.com paying for posts in off-topic?

This guy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2173628) and this one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1817406) seems to post only one-liners in there, joined the campaign one day apart, battling for the lowest word/post average with 156 vs 159 and some very insightful posts like this one.

You need to get the girl invested in you emotionally , do not need to call her make a competition for her , and less love her and show attention

And they both received 1 merit from Cialix (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1947568.html)

On a semi-unrelated note, do mods delete 'spam' in off-topic? If so, do short and pointless posts count as spam? I've have 24/24 good reports against Catmurs but I've avoided reporting their off-topic posts.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: LoyceV on May 06, 2019, 12:11:19 PM
On a semi-unrelated note, do mods delete 'spam' in off-topic? If so, do short and pointless posts count as spam?
From what I've seen: yes they delete it, and yes pointless posts are against the rules.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Lucius on May 06, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
Is stake.com paying for posts in off-topic?

The most beneficial part of this campaign is we aren't going to limit you on where you can and can't post. Unlike in other campaigns, posts made in all sections of Bitcointalk will be counted!

As you can see they are paying for everything, and with such big number of users it is quite obvious that they can not control quality of posts, let alone whether something is spam or not. All that goes under the radar of mods is paid, included zero sense / quality posts in off-topic.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: marlboroza on May 06, 2019, 11:15:20 PM
Results of reporting Coin-Desk and alcholboy: 1 post has been removed (Coin-Desk) and one report is unhandled   ::)

In the meantime, our text spinning bot Coin-Desk is looking for someone who can fix up his broken neuro-chip:

Yes I think Blitzmoon.com is probably safe or fair game. I like the graphic design of which is very good quality. And I have not heard any bad complaints about Blitzmoon.com. This is probably one of the most popular sites of this time, which is becoming more and more popular. Many are now using Blitzmoon.com for betting. Considering all aspects, Blitzmoon.com has made me feel safe and fair. But blitzmoon.com seems to have been a delay in the site. It seems they need to make their page updates more powerful.

Yes, I think Blitzmoon.com is probably the Fair Games. I have not heard any bad comments about Blitzmoon.com yet. This is probably the safest and trustworthy online site that tries to give people the best experience. Here are some interesting and interesting features that give the players the joy of the game. Blitzmoon.com is probably one of the popular mediums of this period and earning money. Blitzmoon.com seems to be provably fair game to me.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Coolcryptovator on May 07, 2019, 09:44:05 AM
Maybe @suchmoon can scarpe everyone who is wearing the signature and regroup them for them as did with the yobit one?
Wondering to move the thread on meta or create new thread about spam of stake dot com. I just can't spend much time to find that spammers due busy on real life. Expecting there is lot of spammer on @suchmoon list.  If we can provide valid examples, then may be admin would take action like yobit. I will try to find once I have free time.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Symphonized on May 07, 2019, 07:52:53 PM
Maybe @suchmoon can scarpe everyone who is wearing the signature and regroup them for them as did with the yobit one?

Do you mean like this? (trust scores may be out of date - let me know if that's important and I'll re-scrape; post count / length is for the last 7 days)

(...)

You do understand this doesn't mean everyone in that list is posting in the campaign don't you?
As for instance I am one of the Official Brand Manager for both Primedice and Stake and I have not changed my signature neither my profile message just because i prefer to leave that way. Take that as an example.

And one more thing:
If all of you wanna try to be the good guy and just report Stake's Signature Campaign, well you are doing it wrong, you should be reporting every campaign that is currently active at Bitcointalk since each one of them incentivate spam.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: coinlocket$ on May 07, 2019, 08:23:29 PM
You do understand this doesn't mean everyone in that list is posting in the campaign don't you?
As for instance I am one of the Official Brand Manager for both Primedice and Stake and I have not changed my signature neither my profile message just because i prefer to leave that way. Take that as an example.

And one more thing:
If all of you wanna try to be the good guy and just report Stake's Signature Campaign, well you are doing it wrong, you should be reporting every campaign that is currently active at Bitcointalk since each one of them incentivate spam.

Have I said anything on reporting who wear the signature?
Have I said anything on reading the users' post history?
Have I said anything on who is using the signature?

So don't try to be the good moral guy, I' ve asked the list only to know who can be on the campaign since the spreadsheet is not available.

(be free to check them all if you want to contribute to the forum but I guess you will probably not)


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: suchmoon on May 07, 2019, 08:25:29 PM
You do understand this doesn't mean everyone in that list is posting in the campaign don't you?
As for instance I am one of the Official Brand Manager for both Primedice and Stake and I have not changed my signature neither my profile message just because i prefer to leave that way. Take that as an example.

Salty much? Someone asked for a list users wearing a certain signature. I provided the list. Couldn't care less what your reasons for wearing that signature are.

If all of you wanna try to be the good guy and just report Stake's Signature Campaign, well you are doing it wrong, you should be reporting every campaign that is currently active at Bitcointalk since each one of them incentivate spam.

If you really care about the "brand" perhaps you should rethink your attitude and say "thank you" to all these nice volunteers doing the job that your campaign manager should be doing.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Symphonized on May 07, 2019, 08:47:02 PM
You do understand this doesn't mean everyone in that list is posting in the campaign don't you?
As for instance I am one of the Official Brand Manager for both Primedice and Stake and I have not changed my signature neither my profile message just because i prefer to leave that way. Take that as an example.

Salty much? Someone asked for a list users wearing a certain signature. I provided the list. Couldn't care less what your reasons for wearing that signature are.

If all of you wanna try to be the good guy and just report Stake's Signature Campaign, well you are doing it wrong, you should be reporting every campaign that is currently active at Bitcointalk since each one of them incentivate spam.

If you really care about the "brand" perhaps you should rethink your attitude and say "thank you" to all these nice volunteers doing the job that your campaign manager should be doing.

I have already answered those questions without being salty here, in telegram and everywhere when people ask me. If you think i was salty (not even being to any specific user) maybe you wanna read my words again and interpretate as much as you want.
I just left a heads up to those who don't understand that they can actually end up with invalid conclusions / statements. This conversation is over from my side.

Edit: We do in fact warned them against spam of any kind for Bitcointalk, we also guide people to post meaningful content for Bitcointalk on telegram side and not here :-*


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: stompix on May 07, 2019, 09:05:53 PM
You do understand this doesn't mean everyone in that list is posting in the campaign don't you?

So, is there a list of the people officially accepted in the campaign?
I find it pretty hard to believe people are posting over +200 posts for weeks, not getting paid and still wearing that signature...

Edit: We do in fact warn against spam of any kind, we also guide people to post meaningful content but that's on telegram side and not here :-*

You should have explained this better to them as it seems they have understood they should post meaningful content on telegram and not here  :P



Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Symphonized on May 07, 2019, 09:24:49 PM
You do understand this doesn't mean everyone in that list is posting in the campaign don't you?

So, is there a list of the people officially accepted in the campaign?
I find it pretty hard to believe people are posting over +200 posts for weeks, not getting paid and still wearing that signature...

Edit: We do in fact warn against spam of any kind, we also guide people to post meaningful content but that's on telegram side and not here :-*

You should have explained this better to them as it seems they have understood they should post meaningful content on telegram and not here  :P



I have updated the Edit information with a more understandable explanation.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: suchmoon on May 07, 2019, 10:19:06 PM
Edit: We do in fact warned them against spam of any kind for Bitcointalk, we also guide people to post meaningful content for Bitcointalk on telegram side and not here :-*

Doesn't look like your warning means anything. You can either manage the campaign properly or be rightfully ridiculed for hiring shitposters.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: DarkStar_ on May 07, 2019, 10:45:18 PM
And one more thing:
If all of you wanna try to be the good guy and just report Stake's Signature Campaign, well you are doing it wrong, you should be reporting every campaign that is currently active at Bitcointalk since each one of them incentivate spam.

I'm personally experimenting by targeting one or two posters and seeing if they get banned after they get a significant number of posts deleted. They just happen to be in the Stake campaign at the moment. I've gotten Catmurs up to 87 posts deleted so far. (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Catmurs)

If your campaign is so 'reportable', maybe you should fix that.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Symphonized on May 07, 2019, 10:50:56 PM
Edit: We do in fact warned them against spam of any kind for Bitcointalk, we also guide people to post meaningful content for Bitcointalk on telegram side and not here :-*

Doesn't look like your warning means anything. You can either manage the campaign properly or be rightfully ridiculed for hiring shitposters.

I also agree some do not qualify as quality members (from my opinion).
Still i am not the campaign manager, i'm just helping on informing the users on why they should keep the quality above everything else.
They have also been acknowledged that they will be banned if they keep posting spam and have their posts deleted by the MODs.

Btw some of the deleted posts are related with a topic deletion, let's not forget that.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: RapTarX on May 08, 2019, 06:40:04 AM
I too had participated 5-6 weeks in stake (earned no more than 0.0025 in 5-6 weeks). I once asked Stephen to hire a professional campaign manager here after watching this thread and the other thread by yahoo62278. I guess he thought I was looking for being a campaign manager for them. However, he didn't change his decision. Probably he didn't notice or think it as spam but the truth is some of the campaign members were/are still spamming although Stephen said spam posts will not get paid. There's some good member too. I was asking will I be able to make 0.10/per week by posting as much as needed (I was kidding), some good mates suggest me not to do that because it will be spam certainly. I think they are not spammers.
I had also promoted stake, in some of the weeks, I had posted 5-10 posts only. Most of the weeks no more than 20 posts. That's how a campaign should be run, a poster should act, a campaign manager should encourage, I believe.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: LoyceV on May 08, 2019, 08:02:25 AM
I'm personally experimenting by targeting one or two posters and seeing if they get banned after they get a significant number of posts deleted. They just happen to be in the Stake campaign at the moment. I've gotten Catmurs up to 87 posts deleted so far. (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Catmurs)
Judging by https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=postsdeleted, Mods are very forgiving even after hundreds of posts have been deleted.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: marlboroza on May 09, 2019, 10:59:58 PM
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What we can buy with Bitcoin depends on our country's cryptocurrency rules. America, Canada, the Philippines, Brazil People can buy many things with Bitcoin in many other countries. Bitcoin can pay the ticket, the goods, the bills What we can buy with Bitcoin depends on our country. If our country accepts Bitcoin legally and in many cases the government accepts Bitcoin, then we can buy Bitcoin products that we need.

"In the meantime, while fixing repetitive errors, we are proud to announce that our spambot v1.2 can highlight your gambling site"


To me, TRUE FLIP seems to be a safe and reliable site. There are so many exciting games that entertain the entertainment medium. Apart from entertaining as well as earning money and good ways this TRUE FLIP. I think TRUE FLIP is probably the best and fair site. There are many interesting fun features here. Here also the advantage of the Deposit Bonus for the new participants. Here also the convenience of VIP bonus and Flip bonus is provided. To me, the graphics design of TRUE FLIP has been a lot better. In everything, I think TRUE FLIP is the best.

WINDICE.io is probably one of the most popular crypto dice game sites in this period. I've already heard about WINDICE.io and I used it myself. It has some interesting features that help to increase its popularity. I liked WINDICE.io graphics but it was too late to enter WINDICE.io page. So they should work more on this. Everything else on WINDICE.io seems right to me. Here's a chance to win Jackpot and anyone who can win that can win.

"Anyone who can win that can win 10% discount on our old spambot v1.1 caps-free version"

I think primedice.com is a good gambling site. There are many interesting features here that are a great way to entertain and earn money. I think Primedice.com will become a popular gambling site in the future, and its users will grow more. I have not heard any negative comments about Primedice.com so far. And I think Primedice.com is probably a safe and reliable gambling site.

OneHash.com seemed to me a better betting site. Here are many benefits that will help give the best experience of the players. Also the interesting aspect of this site is that there is no need for registration now. Users can take part without registering here. And the features of OneHash.com, which I think are interesting, are a great way to entertain and earn money.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: coinlocket$ on May 11, 2019, 08:42:12 PM
Seems Coin-desk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2507716;sa=showPosts)/alcoholboy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2498684;sa=showPosts) released new version of spambot (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2499176), it is currently under heavy development and will be released soon. Some inside info from spambot team :



1st probable account bot:

He probably trying to abuse the contest, the coin desk has been paid

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2585516


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: DarkStar_ on May 13, 2019, 03:48:45 AM
I'm personally experimenting by targeting one or two posters and seeing if they get banned after they get a significant number of posts deleted. They just happen to be in the Stake campaign at the moment. I've gotten Catmurs up to 87 posts deleted so far. (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Catmurs)
Judging by https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=postsdeleted, Mods are very forgiving even after hundreds of posts have been deleted.

It seems to have (mostly) worked. 43 good reports against markstivn98 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2536129) on May 7 and May 9 combined and they haven't posted since May 9th. 17 good reports against StephenJH  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=86939)on May 7th and they've logged on, but haven't made any new posts. 89 good reports against Catmurs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1817406) and they haven't made any new posts since May 7th. Either they all suddenly went from 20+ posts a day to 0 or they got a temp ban.

However, I do have 35/36 good reports against Ximoandali (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2173628) and they're still posting, but I'm still leaning to the former getting a temp ban.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: examplens on May 14, 2019, 12:47:26 PM
I'm personally experimenting by targeting one or two posters and seeing if they get banned after they get a significant number of posts deleted. They just happen to be in the Stake campaign at the moment. I've gotten Catmurs up to 87 posts deleted so far. (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Catmurs)
Judging by https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=postsdeleted, Mods are very forgiving even after hundreds of posts have been deleted.

It seems to have (mostly) worked. 43 good reports against markstivn98 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2536129) on May 7 and May 9 combined and they haven't posted since May 9th. 17 good reports against StephenJH  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=86939)on May 7th and they've logged on, but haven't made any new posts. 89 good reports against Catmurs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1817406) and they haven't made any new posts since May 7th. Either they all suddenly went from 20+ posts a day to 0 or they got a temp ban.

However, I do have 35/36 good reports against Ximoandali (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2173628) and they're still posting, but I'm still leaning to the former getting a temp ban.

How much deleted post is necessary to have to be banned? Are there any clear rules about that?
Also whether there is a rule for threads with lots of bump spam posts. There were threads where I report more than 90% of posts in 10 pages, and all of them are deleted but thread still exists.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Coolcryptovator on May 14, 2019, 04:36:02 PM
However, I do have 35/36 good reports against Ximoandali (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2173628) and they're still posting, but I'm still leaning to the former getting a temp ban.
Likely he/she will not get ban for spam. I have previous experience, even reported that kind of amount report and they were mark good but user didn't got ban. So we can't expect ban for spam post.

How much deleted post is necessary to have to be banned? Are there any clear rules about that?
As far as I know, there no any rules about that. Its depend on user and reported post. Its fully depend on moderators and admin they will ban or not for reported spam post. But in addition, you could add note on report page why are you thinking that users should be banned.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: DarkStar_ on May 18, 2019, 05:27:04 PM
17 good reports against StephenJH  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=86939)on May 7th and they've logged on, but haven't made any new posts.

StephenJH came back on May 15th, spammed another 12 posts (all good reports) and now this shows on their profile:
Quote
Banned from displaying signatures until June 01, 2019, 03:57:24 PM

@StephenJH - see you in two weeks  :P


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Coolcryptovator on May 19, 2019, 10:35:15 AM
@StephenJH - see you in two weeks  :P
That means moderators are banning for spam post also I mean for good report. Idea is not bad to prevent spammers ;)

However, I think reporter's hard work will be worthy now.

I mean for good report.

They always have.
No, it wasn't. I have reported lot of post from single user previously but they were not banned.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: asche on May 19, 2019, 11:26:14 AM
I mean for good report.

They always have.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: DarkStar_ on May 21, 2019, 03:49:17 AM
When i was doing signature campaigns for primedice back in 2014 we basically invented signature campaigns on this forum.

Then it was starting to degrade quality of this forum and we decided to stop it.

Now we are back again with stake campaign and we will make it strongest campaign on this forum.

Ironic  ::)


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: hilariousetc on May 21, 2019, 10:44:17 AM
When i was doing signature campaigns for primedice back in 2014 we basically invented signature campaigns on this forum.

Then it was starting to degrade quality of this forum and we decided to stop it.

Now we are back again with stake campaign and we will make it strongest campaign on this forum.

Ironic  ::)

Very. I'd argue that the Stake campaign is the worst on the forum now (wouldn't have been if Yobit was still around).

A glorious Stake-started thread here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190521081654/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134267.0

I'd bet there's some alts in that thread too.

I actually think the Stake spam is worse now than it was back in the PrimeDice day. The worst of the PD spammers were quickly temp banned and most got the message once they did but there's far too many for staff to handle and it's not something we should have to deal with in the first place. There's far more people who have come to this board just for sig campaigns compared to back in the old days where it was mostly just existing users joining them, but I guess PrimeDice was the catalyst in popularising campaigns and once word got out then people flocked to the forum to abuse them and we ended up in the situation we have today where people have farmed accounts on an industrial scale to use just to earn via posting. Because Stake are seemingly accepting anyone and everyone those farmers are going to take advantage of it, especially because there's a lack of other campaigns for them to easily get on these days. All they need to do is do a bit of quality control and there wouldn't be any issues.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Lauda on May 21, 2019, 10:51:24 AM
Could I argue that this spam is scamming my brain and thus properly tag the people behind it? :-\ That would be within the new guidelines.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on May 21, 2019, 03:54:42 PM
Could I argue that this spam is scamming my brain and thus properly tag the people behind it? :-\ That would be within the new guidelines.

That just proves that this forum is going down, so you want to tag the people running this signature, or the ones promoting the signature because these are two different things. Of course you will tag this way only signatures approved by the communists being on DT will be allowed.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: IconFirm on May 22, 2019, 07:44:11 AM
I'd argue that the Stake campaign is the worst on the forum now (wouldn't have been if Yobit was still around).

It's not even an arguement anymore - it is definately the worst. My ignore cell is overflowing with stake.....lol

Seriously though, can something be done apart from constantly hammering the ignore button? For the casual reader who isn't logged in, this forum is just covered in shitposts - it's terrible.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: actmyname on May 22, 2019, 11:38:14 PM
That just proves that this forum is going down, so you want to tag the people running this signature, or the ones promoting the signature because these are two different things. Of course you will tag this way only signatures approved by the communists being on DT will be allowed.
Isn't communist about workers controlling the means of production?
I don't think that signature campaigns that incentivize spam should be allowed to proliferate on the forum. Paying for someone to post up to 1000+ times is certainly not something that benefits the forum... is it?


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: iasenko on May 23, 2019, 01:08:37 PM
I'd argue that the Stake campaign is the worst on the forum now (wouldn't have been if Yobit was still around).
~
Seriously though, can something be done apart from constantly hammering the ignore button? For the casual reader who isn't logged in, this forum is just covered in shitposts - it's terrible.

Instead of hitting the ignore button, hit the report to the mods one and write that it is just a Stake signature spam. Doing so will benefit the others reading the same shit, like you did, don't be selfish and improve your report score :)


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: IconFirm on May 23, 2019, 01:23:08 PM
I'd argue that the Stake campaign is the worst on the forum now (wouldn't have been if Yobit was still around).
~
Seriously though, can something be done apart from constantly hammering the ignore button? For the casual reader who isn't logged in, this forum is just covered in shitposts - it's terrible.

Instead of hitting the ignore button, hit the report to the mods one and write that it is just a Stake signature spam. Doing so will benefit the others reading the same shit, like you did, don't be selfish and improve your report score :)

Haha!  I usually report posts if it's just one liners or incoherant babble, but many or most of these stake post spammers are entire paragraphs so I'm a bit cautious about weather to report them or not - even if they are mindless ramblings stating the blatantly obvious. I've got a 98% reporting rate, so I guess I'm getting it mostly right.....


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: actmyname on May 24, 2019, 02:11:03 AM
many or most of these stake post spammers are entire paragraphs so I'm a bit cautious about weather to report them or not - even if they are mindless ramblings stating the blatantly obvious. I've got a 98% reporting rate, so I guess I'm getting it mostly right.....
Insubstantial posts include those that are general, repeated, vague statements extended/padded out with inner repetitions or pointless words jammed in there, or perhaps some run-on sentences that seem like they add something of worth (perhaps not much but enough to perform outside the definition of spam) yet in reality are just sentences that restate the previously-discussed information.

Above is an example of a post that can be shortened thusly: Spam posts contain general, repeated, and/or vague statements to pad for extra length.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: aioc on May 25, 2019, 02:05:17 PM
Latest update on this campaign is, they lowered the rate, from Bitcoin payment they've made it to dollar equal payment 
now the participants are receiving 3 times less than they were receiving when the campaign started when Bitcoin was trading at $4000 level
nice tricks.


Pay rates

Hero/Legendary - $3 per 10 posts

Sr. member - $2 per 10 posts

Full member - $1 per 10 posts

Jr/Member - 50¢ per 10 posts


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: eaLiTy on May 25, 2019, 02:43:02 PM
Latest update on this campaign is, they lowered the rate, from Bitcoin payment they've made it to dollar equal payment 
now the participants are receiving 3 times less than they were receiving when the campaign started when Bitcoin was trading at $4000 level
nice tricks.
I am not sure why don't they limit the amount of users who does quality post and pay a decent amount rather than allowing spam as every participant will now shit all over with the the current payment structure, the amount of spam will increase without a doubt and stake will be another campaign that will be banned just like Yobit from this board.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Findingnemo on May 25, 2019, 04:14:58 PM
Latest update on this campaign is, they lowered the rate, from Bitcoin payment they've made it to dollar equal payment 
now the participants are receiving 3 times less than they were receiving when the campaign started when Bitcoin was trading at $4000 level
nice tricks.
I am not sure why don't they limit the amount of users who does quality post and pay a decent amount rather than allowing spam as every participant will now shit all over with the the current payment structure, the amount of spam will increase without a doubt and stake will be another campaign that will be banned just like Yobit from this board.

I think there should be a thread regarding this issue on META,then it may get attention of theymos and will conclusion to all these spam invaders just like what happened to YOBIT.

Anyone agrees that it needs to be moved to META now?


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on May 25, 2019, 06:21:02 PM
I think there should be a thread regarding this issue on META,then it may get attention of theymos and will conclusion to all these spam invaders just like what happened to YOBIT.

Anyone agrees that it needs to be moved to META now?

Be rest assured theymos has already seen this thread beside during the time of the whole yobit madness this signature campaign was also mentioned numerous times but I guess the fact the campaign is been managed from the forum is what's still keeping it active.

For now, we can only report spam post then wait for moderators to do their jobs if you feel it still needs theymos's intervention you can send him a DM with link to thread, no need moving thread to meta.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Privcy Foundation on May 25, 2019, 11:58:48 PM
Just because a post is long doesn't mean it is good.  We have seen many posters go by on this forum and appear to be intelligent by typing out a magnitude of long words over many paragraphs.  These people are always participating in signature campaigns such as chip mixer to appear like they are on another level but it is really just a spammer underneath the shiny exterior.  We had members like Mr Gator and the Pharmacist crapping out line after line with no real knowledge of how bitcoin even works, couldn't even understand a very basic equation.  This reminds me of the days of the early internet when we were flooded with a barrage of advertisements, people were seeking money in any which was possible but money does indeed do things that you may want to do and if you made it this far you see that I have a lot of good points to make.  Giving out advice is something I tend to do as I have learned from the many greats like Tony Robbins and other notable speakers, which reminds me of the great Abraham Lincoln who Join Voight just said is one of the greatest presidents of all time.  But that got me thinking does this forum have a president? Well perhaps but it is more like a dictator with absolute power over everything.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Findingnemo on May 26, 2019, 12:22:17 AM
~snip~

But its totally off topic to this discussion. ::)


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: aioc on May 26, 2019, 01:23:39 AM
Latest update on this campaign is, they lowered the rate, from Bitcoin payment they've made it to dollar equal payment  
now the participants are receiving 3 times less than they were receiving when the campaign started when Bitcoin was trading at $4000 level
nice tricks.
I am not sure why don't they limit the amount of users who does quality post and pay a decent amount rather than allowing spam as every participant will now shit all over with the the current payment structure, the amount of spam will increase without a doubt and stake will be another campaign that will be banned just like Yobit from this board.


I'm sure it will increase,the bounty manager Steve defended the payment structure it now takes it or leave for bounty hunters so expect to see more spam comments some participants will now have to double their output so they can cash out in their website I read that their is a minimum threshold before you can cashout there.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on May 26, 2019, 09:41:12 AM
These people are always participating in signature campaigns such as chip mixer to appear like they are on another level. We had members like Pharmacist crapping out line after line with no real knowledge of how bitcoin even works, couldn't even understand a very basic equation.

Now i see where the hate is coming from lol. If you're that intelligent as you claim to be then you would understand there is actually more to Bitcointalk than just understanding how the technology works. The forum has out grown it's initial purpose to accommodating other cryptocurrency and aspect of our everyday life like politics etc. Next time you come across these posts, relax yourself read and reread again but if you still don't see some sense in what they have written then go seek for help because the problem is from you not them.

But its totally off topic to this discussion. ::)

We are discussing on spam related issues here so don't think it's off topic.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: mirakal on May 27, 2019, 05:49:20 AM
Stake signature campaign could be worst than yobit in the long run, good posters will leave as the rate is the cheapest.
It's just funny that they started with a good rate and now they suddenly become the lowest, I don't know their reason, but I don't like their action.

IMO, even decent spammers would not be attracted with these rates, and they will prefer bounty hunting even though they are not certain they'll get a good reward than posting a lot to earn a decent amount which would possibly risk their account of getting ban for spamming.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: LoyceV on May 27, 2019, 07:31:38 AM
It's just funny that they started with a good rate and now they suddenly become the lowest, I don't know their reason, but I don't like their action.
They probably lowered the rate because Bitcoin went up in price. But the topic title still says "Earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly".
Let's see how many posts that requires:
Bitcoinaverage (https://bitcoinaverage.com/en/bitcoin-price/btc-to-usd): 8778.91 USD per Bitcoin.
Hero/Legendary: $3 per 10 posts > 0.00003417 BTC per post
Animated avatar: +25% > 0.00004272 BTC per post
Personal text: 0.0001 BTC weekly

That means they pay up to 2338 posts per week for the highest paying ranks, and many times more for the lowest ranks.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Quickseller on May 27, 2019, 07:48:25 AM
IMO, even decent spammers would not be attracted with these rates, and they will prefer bounty hunting even though they are not certain they'll get a good reward than posting a lot to earn a decent amount which would possibly risk their account of getting ban for spamming.
I actually just posted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.msg51214729#msg51214729) about this in their thread yesterday.

They are currently paying about 10% of what most other campaigns pay, except the lightlord/777coin campaigns . They replied (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.msg51216624#msg51216624) to my concerns, but I am not sure they understood what my concerns are, or that he even read the majority of my post -- his reply was mostly skewed (and incorrect) information about why people should join his campaign.

IIRC, even when he opened his thread, they were still paying a fairly low rate, but had a very high maximum, which remains unchanged (0.1 BTC/week). I would say they roughly halved their /post rates, so perhaps their previous rates were roughly 20% of what most other campaigns paid.

IIRC, back in the day, they (and most /post campaigns with high post limits) would pay 0.001BTC for high ranking accounts, and the "fixed rate" campaigns, that generally required 50 posts/month would pay 0.1BTC per month, so the /post campaigns paid roughly 50% of the "fixed rate" campaigns. Except now, the higher rate campaigns now generally pay /post, and have 50 post/week maximums, or about 4x what was previously required for "fixed rate" campaigns.

Unless you are making thousands of posts/month, it does not make any sense to join their campaign if you qualify for another campaign that pays "market" rates.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: mirakal on May 27, 2019, 08:46:44 AM
It's just funny that they started with a good rate and now they suddenly become the lowest, I don't know their reason, but I don't like their action.
They probably lowered the rate because Bitcoin went up in price. But the topic title still says "Earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly".
Let's see how many posts that requires:
Bitcoinaverage (https://bitcoinaverage.com/en/bitcoin-price/btc-to-usd): 8778.91 USD per Bitcoin.
Hero/Legendary: $3 per 10 posts > 0.00003417 BTC per post
Animated avatar: +25% > 0.00004272 BTC per post
Personal text: 0.0001 BTC weekly

That means they pay up to 2338 posts per week for the highest paying ranks, and many times more for the lowest ranks.
I was looking now at the Chipmixer campaign (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17P52DifaD7YfvzLkX3wrxGVpKcaPHY4y57ZpI-FK754/edit#gid=830747459) and you guys have combined posts of 1831 in total in the last week, that's still lower than a one high rank member can achieve if he maximize his posts count. LOL

~snip~
Thanks for showing your concern by voicing out to their thread, let's hope they'll listen to it and review their current rules.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Lauda on June 09, 2019, 08:05:36 PM
Why does this problem remain unsolved? Is stake trying to become the next Yobit and get blacklisted?


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: DarkStar_ on June 10, 2019, 03:07:23 AM
You're forgetting I'm paying for posts on every section of Bitcointalk including off topic and all those other sections nobody else will pay for.

New change:

  • Paid posts must be in the following sections: Bitcoin discussion, Gambling, Economics, Mining, Development & Technical discussion

Be prepared to see a lot more spam in these sections I guess. The Stake spammers were (mostly) sticking to Gambling discussion at first, but now more are invading the normal gambling section  :-\

At least they still pay for the megathread spam in Bitcoin discussion


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: SteveStake on June 10, 2019, 12:24:38 PM
Thank you everyone for taking such an interest in the campaign, if you have evidence of someone abusing a signature campaign and you'd like to see action taken against them report them here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5152812


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: Lauda on June 10, 2019, 02:29:45 PM
Thank you everyone for taking such an interest in the campaign, if you have evidence of someone abusing a signature campaign and you'd like to see action taken against them report them here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5152812
Do I look like I am willing to do your job for you? Incompetent.


Title: Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam.
Post by: pushups44 on June 11, 2019, 09:11:08 PM
IMO, even decent spammers would not be attracted with these rates, and they will prefer bounty hunting even though they are not certain they'll get a good reward than posting a lot to earn a decent amount which would possibly risk their account of getting ban for spamming.
I actually just posted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.msg51214729#msg51214729) about this in their thread yesterday.

They are currently paying about 10% of what most other campaigns pay, except the lightlord/777coin campaigns . They replied (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.msg51216624#msg51216624) to my concerns, but I am not sure they understood what my concerns are, or that he even read the majority of my post -- his reply was mostly skewed (and incorrect) information about why people should join his campaign.

IIRC, even when he opened his thread, they were still paying a fairly low rate, but had a very high maximum, which remains unchanged (0.1 BTC/week). I would say they roughly halved their /post rates, so perhaps their previous rates were roughly 20% of what most other campaigns paid.

IIRC, back in the day, they (and most /post campaigns with high post limits) would pay 0.001BTC for high ranking accounts, and the "fixed rate" campaigns, that generally required 50 posts/month would pay 0.1BTC per month, so the /post campaigns paid roughly 50% of the "fixed rate" campaigns. Except now, the higher rate campaigns now generally pay /post, and have 50 post/week maximums, or about 4x what was previously required for "fixed rate" campaigns.

Unless you are making thousands of posts/month, it does not make any sense to join their campaign if you qualify for another campaign that pays "market" rates.

I like your logic. The reason I am with Stake is because a lot of the other campaigns are full - there are apparently waiting lists with not many slots open. I agree that all other things equal, better pay leads to better posts.

However, I disagree with the notion (not from you in particular) that a high amount of earned merits ought to be a requirement for being allowed into a campaign. What I'd like to see is for merits to flow a bit more easily and evenly in the forum so more non-spammers can rise through the ranks. In my humble view, earning merits is currently a very difficult thing to do for most people.