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Did anybody hear of bitcoin atm malware programs being sold on the dark net ???
they said you can cash out $6000 btc a day with a credit card they provide..

do you guys think its real/scam?
where can i buy this malware? (jk  :P)


https://www.ccn.com/malware-targeting-bitcoin-atms-goes-on-sale-for-us25000

every single time when you see someone is "selling" something that can hack money for you easily then you have to be 100% sure  than it is a fake because of a simple reason: if it was that easy then they wouldn't be selling it to you to create competition for themselves and make their "method" or "tool" known so it could be patched. no, if it were real they would have kept it private and used it themselves instead without letting anybody know.

Whether or not they are out there, it's best not to get involved with those type. Even if it's easy money or promising to give you a high return, don't get in quickly. DYOR and be sure what you are going to and risking. Nothing will ever come out right with a scam.

very very old news and it has been around forever
https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-atms-targeted-by-malware-for-sale-in-underground-markets/
for example ^^
if regular ATM have been targeted since ages, why bitcoin ATM can be any different ?
the thing is that there are reports of the said malware offered for sale
for 25.000$ , but no reports of mass ATM security breaches , so as much as it is easy to buy and use this malware it is not profitable to do so

Maybe they look for partners. Because if he has the power to do so, why should not he distract attention? It is easy to do, and you are wanted by the police because of what you did, and with selling tactic you can make money and also direct the cops.  ;)

That's for sure, it's nothing more than an ordinary theft. I bet there are easier and cheaper ways for becoming a criminal.
But let's think logically for a moment, why would any one be selling a method that can bring millions and risk for it to be discovered and patched up? Doesn't make any sense, such skim would be kept a secret for as long as possible, in order to bring hassle free profits.
Fact that it's being sold somewhere, means its probably already patched off the atm's or it never worked in the first place, what is in fact the most probable scenario. Desperate search for ways to rob people, will end up with the seeker being scammed... 

Thats true because regular atms can also be like that  . that is not called a malware but that is called a skimming  . criminal or skimmers put a gadget under the entrance of card and they can stole the card owners info such as pin codes , credit card numbers , etc ...

These gadget will not work in a newer version of atm . recently old atm's have been pulled out due to this issue . but it can be working for btc powered atm since they are still kinda new .

I watched a documentary on youtube made by vice and I think this is related to it.

The guy gets money everyday through withdrawals and he uses his friends for it but I can't say if these are actual real since coverage can be on hype for the sake of views.

Why its on a dark net first of all?
You have to doubt on this one and don’t trust easily, don’t also try to participate or else you will loose yourself in jail. This is just like a card hacking/skimming, its illegal and it should be reported. Hope, it cannot affect bitcoin atm machine in the future.

I don't believe that is happening now, for me a Bitcoin system is very safe and reliable. Access for a hacker to be able to steal is to know the ID and private key wallet. That is a natural thing, so if there is a hacker who can enter the Bitcoin system then that is not true. Maybe hackers record someone's transaction activity, but there's no way they can access without passing a system that has a good level of security.

Yeah, it is 100% scam and what in the world would they sell that kind of thing if it can actually hack money from it? ??? Sometimes people don't use their mind really well and believe in ridiculous kinds of scams that spread on the internet and they easily believe even if its obvious scam.

I think think is real and those kind of malware programs exist but I'm sure they are very rare and you will probably only find them on the black market where scammers deal with other scammers and not on the internet where everyone can buy one. Because bitcoin ATM are new right now I think it's a little easier to be hacked because the technology is not so advanced yet.

It's kinda old news but thanks for bringing up as this forum gets a lot of newbies as member almost everyday, it will help them to stay aware from BTC atm scams.

there is always backdoors and bugs in any computer that can be exploited at some point when they are found but then again they will be patched after they were found and it will be over, that is like the inevitable part of running a business like this.

but as others said anybody who claims to be selling it to others is just lying and wants to take your money!

I think what you are saying is not that true as it seems and that's because there are people who create this programs and people who use this programs. If someone created such a malware software this doesn't mean he had to use it, because he exposes himself at a very high risk of getting caught and face prison. So why would he do that when he can simply sell his program to other people and still make a lot of money while the risk of getting caught and arrested for doing that is a lot smaller.

Though there have been series of malware sales in the dark web which has not be true to what they intend to do as per their advertisement. Some years ago a friend of mine bought some promo from them but end up been scammed, so, never believe them for what they profess, trend carefully because there is risk involves.

It was published in 5 months ago so it is not a big impact of current market. many peoples are just read the old news and post it here, my suggestion is do not post the old articles link because some peoples are confused in suddenly and they panic in upcoming market. we are all moving uptrend in recently so many positive news only possible on future and Bitcoin legalization also possible in entire world.

These ATMs have rather high fees and are not available in most of locations anyway, so I'd just avoid using them altogether. It's much more confortable to find a trusted exchange for these things, even though the idea of cashing out in ATM seems attractive. I hope the malware will be destroyed, though, because it's unfair to make people lose their money. I hope you are truly not serious about buying the malware. And besides, since it's just news about something like this being on the market, it does not even mean that there is such a thing. It can be scammers scamming other scammers by selling them nothing for $25k, you know.

I do hope that you check the date of this article because this is a old news already. Here is one discussion thread in the Press section:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023801.0

And I'm sure you will find similar threads in the past as well.

I agree that the seller is a scammer, if this really worked as well as the are suggesting they could just use it themselves instead of exposing their secret to others.  If it sounds too good to be true it is almost always a scam and you will lose your money.

..i never heard that news..I don't believe that it is hapenning now..It is better not to involve on a dark market because you are not sure that it is legit or not..remember scammers spread everywhere..so it is better for you to research more before spending your money in a useless way..

I don't understand that yet, but if it's on the black market and it really happens it might be a real thing. that's just how to play the role of reaching $ 6000btc per day and work mechanism. I just need their way of working so as not to cause speculationv

Right, i have prevously said about this. Any maleware either it is BTC ATM or hacking purpose is 100% scam. There are a lot of scammers in online. They are trying to hack your valuable information. I have faced  such a trap few days ago. So don't heed upon this words.

This is old and funny at the same time and if ever there is someone bought that malware just to purchase bitcoin in ATM for $6750 will be totally jerk. Otherwise, the current price of bitcoin is around $3800, imagine how much will be his loss if he did this or I bet he already tried to commit suicide.

Anything can happen anytime and in fact nothing in dark web is legit it's all illegal, darling.

Even it is real or fake, or maybe it is right, i will avoid something like that. Because it is not safe for us and better we save ourself with avoid dark market, or maybe scammer people like that. Because soon  maybe they will get arrested.

While ordinary ATMs have long been the target of criminals, fraud related to Bitcoin ATMs has so far made little sense. Bitcoin ATMs allow Bitcoin and cash exchange, with some Bitcoin ATMs offering two-way functions that allow the purchase of Bitcoin and the sale of Bitcoin for cash. While attacks on regular ATMs have not diminished, criminals continue to abandon traditional methods such as skimmers and now rely on sophisticated methods such as malware. The problem has expanded and has had a financial impact on consumers and financial institutions so IBM has received a 300 percent increase in requests for ATM security testing in the past year. Trend Micro, a Japanese multinational cyber security and defense company, shows that the emergence of ATM Bitcoin malware is only a natural development of cyber crime around cryptocurrency.

for example, if the device already exists, the price of the cryptocurrency will certainly drop because the person who owns the card immediately sells the coin and gets fiat. so i think it's just a scam but in this modern world, who knows that hacking into someone private is very easy

Here is what I found on your question https://github.com/rfidnfcdevice/Bitcoin-Atm-Malware

Why should users even care about that? You are not storing your private keys in any Bitcoin ATM and you are not risking if someone hacks this ATM. All cash inside it belongs to the ATM owner. Even if malware will replace receiving BTC address into the wrong one then your money still have to be ensured. At least this is how it works with traditional ATMs.

Are you serious for suggesting this? You're giving a code to hack a bitcoin ATM, though he just asking where he can buy yet he's just obviously kidding.
Though we are not sure if he can but you're actually giving a negative connotation to whoever will read this. They'll surely think that hacking is just everyone cup of tea.

I think he’s trying to click bait the users into downloading those files, and once the user does he may not be able to crack the atm but this Dev will definitely be able to hack into his machine and steal his coins. These kind of software’s often prey on people’s greed, and we all know what happens when you fall for your greed. I would advise all not to download anything from that link, or any other link which promises any kind of hack.

Its hard to believe that any such thing which offer you to cash out 6000$ btc a day ? If that was real why would they do them themselves ?
Whats the purpose of asking others to avail this offer ?

Many people sell scams on darknet and this is place which is least trusted.

I think this should be confirmed if that's positive of having malwares, or if maybe it was this must be corrected. Don't risk yourselves having transactions with problematic machines, because that could probably cause you threat on your funds or much worst than that. We should always priority the safety of everyone's finances, and I don't trust those malwares these days that's phising strategies to access your privacy.

Such an enormous misunderstanding of every aspect...

Unfortunately, a fraudulent method since the beginning of history still works. Please note that the hunter can be hunted or may become a pray, if he is not careful enough.

Anything from darknet and deep web is scam 90% of the product in darknet are probably just made to attract people and most of them are useless and no value.
Please think first why do they sell this kind of product if they can make $6000. It's logic because they don't actually make money with the program that is being sold from the darknet.

Don't trust anyone from the darknet and deep web if you want to deal with someone there you must use an escrow if they don't allow escrow or any protection so, don't deal because they don't actually have the product.

There are some kind of atm malware buy I do not think it existed in dark net. If this is true, refrain from doing this since it is illegal whether it is legit or scam. Doing some illegal actions is dangerous and will make your life threaten. Personally, I am not interested with the $6,000 returned.

Realistically the only way to actually get the product you want from the deep web is to use escrow. In almost any other case, there's an extremely low chance that you'll receive the product that you order. The deep web used to be a sort of "sekrit club" for the users who were initially involved, but now it's a lot more popularized. With that comes scammers, who think there's no recourse for the people they scam and thus it's a great way to walk away with a bunch of money when they pretend to sell illicit goods.

These days I don't think there's many (if any) legitimate marketplaces on the deep web. There's probably been a move to some other, deeper and less well-known network which we won't be aware of for a few years. Good luck trying to find out what it is unless you have the right networks and/or software.

There is a high chance that it is a scam. What type of people will easily give you 6000 dollars? From that reason alone you will notice that their method is kinda sketchy. Nevertheless, avoid tackling the deep web and it is far more better to work for your money here in this website.

I guess it's pretty obvious that this is just a scam.

So only gullible person will fall for this kind of trap, mean seriously, are you willing to pay $6K for that? How foolish you are if you believed this kind of thing really exist. In the end you could end up double whammy, you lost your $6K and then probably those scammers can hack your machine.

You do not need Malware to buy bitcoins with a stolen credit card. One of the things that are sold on the DarkNet are stolen credit card information, but it is getting more and more difficult to use these cards, because Banks have been catching on to these scams and they now ask verification before the purchase is approved and the holder of the card gets phone calls if they spend high amounts on these cards.

A lot of the credit card transactions can be reversed, so people do not like to accept credit card payments for Bitcoin purchases and most services that offer that, has strict AML requirements that needs to be done in advance, before these transactions are allowed.  ;)

Send me 1000 $ and i provide you this stuff.you cant get anything from me nor darkweb, but you save 5000$ now :)
Thank you :)

Average joes are foolish enough unfortunately. The risks they are willing to expose themselves to in an attempt to hit jackpot is so big, that they more often than not end up broke.

The overall sentiment when it comes to things related to crypto is that people think that money is so easy to make that you don't even have to break a sweat. The reality is completely different of course, but they find out the hard way.

There are still hundreds or maybe even thousands of people installing Bitcoin doublers hoping that they can generate money out of nothing. This also is a clear indication that people don't know how Bitcoin works....

Good thing most BTC atms now have AML compliance. At least I read that about the crypto intelligence firm ciphertrace is

This malware thing isn't impossible at all. Traditional atm also encounter this kind of issue. If you're really into illegal things, any thing could be possible. But selling it on dark net, whether it is real or a scam just don't get involved with it

Probably that's a scam, there is no reason to believe that it's legit since I don't hear any news yet that ATM machines can be infected with malware.
If you guys hear any news regarding this, correct me and educate me please.

The sale thing is a scam don't know if the atm machine do as well but buying around dark net chances will be a lot bigger to be prone being victimized, best to stay away from this types of offers it will be a waste of  money. Though there's always possibilities also that malware can be injected but it's still best to stay safe from this.

For sure a scam. I read somewhere that these btc ATMs have AML compliance now. Ciphertrace does all of their tracking I believe

are you seriously?
On the darkweb have alot of spy and malware can risk your PC and your live, don't do that, just become a normal live with surfing on save internet. don't diving on the deep, you can fund shark and octopus.