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So there's this campaign that I've participated that locked bounty rewards in the hopes of avoiding token dumping. As what I expected, the dumping still happened. What's even funnier is that it is now the bounty hunters who complains unlike before where investors blame bounty hunters  ;D

If there's any coins or tokens that should be locked, it should only be the team's share (or maybe add those given to advisors). Both parties (investors & hunters) have invested either money or time to get their share and they should not be subjected to such restriction.

Instead of locking, teams should just concentrate on other methods such as buy back and loyalty rewards to lessen the chances of price crash.

I have always said this, it is not the hunters fault for dumping but even some hunters blame themselves for dump which is bad.

They think that the bounty hunter only gets a free token and won't care even if the price drops, the bounty hunter will still sell it. in my opinion, that was wrong thinking, as you said, that even though they locked the prize hunter tokens, their prices continued to fall. And that indicates that the project team is not working well.

This will be a long debate and whatever will be the developers find a way, there's always people that will complain and will say it's unfair on their sides. On the bounty hunters side, most will say that the investors should only dump small portion of their investments. And for the investors side, most of them blame the bounty hunters which is really irrelevant if the distribution to them has been around 1% - 5% or few higher than expected.

Locking bounty allocations won't prevent dumping instead it'll encourage it due to anger from bounty participants when those allocation are finally distributed. Many projects thinks locking bounty allocations is the solution to their tokens or coin dumping not knowing dump of coins/token are result of lack of faith in the project and excessive supply of it in the market due to selling of tokens with bonuses in presale for very cheap price.

Irrespective of what allocation gets locked be it investors, advisor, team or even bounty allocations. A token/coin without a future will still get dump and those with little real world application might suffer some few decline in prices but in long run will be profitable.

It's sad really.
I can relate to your experience because I had the experience .
The campaign ended last year May and bounty hunters  token has just been unlocked.
Prior to the token unlock, the price of the coin was shitty.
So I think team members should use other methods as you opined, since locking of bounty tokens has failed to achieve the desired results.

You did not name the campaign but there's one token that I know that locked the token for bounty hunters until May and that is Likercoin, and you are right locking bounty hunters' shares will not stop people from dumping the coin/token, I believe some devs are also dumping their shares because the team always have the lion's share of the supply.

Isn't developer token vested like for a year or too? i don't think developers would be able to dump their tokens, maybe the investors are the ones dumping their tokens, which is common from what i see, locking tokens is really dumb for me because they will just dump their tokens later on, which the result would be the same.

It is true that project devs do lock bounty reawards to avoid dumping
But what eventually happens??


It all gets dump, everyone needs to understand that bounty hunters cannot cause a token to dip

We've discussed this issue more recently in a Telegram group. One project accepts 1 ETH=750USD for token sales. Then says let's not distribute the bounty. they call it that because bounty hunters may dump the price. Very difficult to understand. The investor will buy a token worth $750, paying $150. If they sells their tokens normally, they accept to sell it for $300 at the first opportunity. So Price automatically fall about %60. Please let me know which bounty hunter falls it now?

They sell their tokens with a lot of bonus. Then says bounty hunters dump the price... Come on be just! Bounty hunters gets only %1-3. Not %50!

 i do not even think locking hunters reward can change the situation.  i also  do not  want to start calling project names but i have witnessed some projects team locking hunter's token yet the price of their token still got dumped.

The fact is they believe hunters are dumpers , but  that is not completely true. i think the  Early investors who buy ICO with 100% bonus are usually the ones doing the hard dumping .

it is true as a bounty hunter we also invested in the project we work to promote them to attract investors so we should also be treated as an investor or at least treat us as a worker for their project.
It is not our fault that the value of the projects are dropping low , May I ask how was the value of the alt-coin that you been promoting when they lock the reward? did it help to raise the value or nothing happen?
Because I am pretty sure even when they lock it the value still drops down specially if they didn't do the buy back the price would surely drop because the investors would sell it if they just invested to get a quick profit or just invested because of the early investor bonus.
Bounty hunters only hold a small portion of the whole supply so the price drop isn't our fault.

I wonder why you put the blame of coin dumping on its initial listing solely on bounty hunters, must they be blame of everything that goes wrong in the industry. I have participated in many projects that delay the distribution of bounty token yet they got dumped badly on exchange. To me, even if bounty hunters dumped their token, the percentage of it is not enough to cause a damage that can't be change to the price of the token.

Another topic in which I see that bounty hunters are to blame for all the troubles of cryptocurrencies. Let's do some simple calculations and find out if this is true. The bounty budget of campaigns is usually about 1% of all coins sold. According to statistics, half of the bounty hunters are holders and do not sell coins below the ICO price. Then we have the amount of about 0.5% of the total number of coins, which is unsignificant. How can such a small amount of coins dump the price dozens of times, as it usually happens?
And if you think about it, then who has the most coins and can easily dump the price? The answer is always the same: developers.

So they decide to lock bounty rewards after they basically had promised to pay them?
Is that normal? I've never participated in any sort of bounty campaign, so I don't know if it's common practice.

Just seems that it's a highly deceptive thing to do. They basically change the terms of their agreement on a whim.

The bounty percentage is just a little to affect the value of the token.
You joined an ICO with full of fools.

One good strategy is giving them more from the unsold token or from the teams wallet while they are holding. Kind of a loyalty reward for those who will stay. That way the price will be intact.
Though it is not just that which affecta the price. If a whale suddenly picks that token to be traded then a large movement could really happen.

I believe that token locking does not prevent investors from selling tokens. The most fundamental reason is that the operation of the project itself will allow investors to safely hold token assets.

I give the poster kudos for this post. Like the poster rightly said, if a token should be locked, it should be the ones allocated to team and advisors, after all its their project, why do they need to sell. The team avoiding the dump are actuality the ones that dumps on investors once theres listing. Hunters are known for dumping but that's not supposed to be. Hunters and investors make or mar a project because without them, I don't think the said project will stand.

Investors dumping their tokens more faster than the hunters so the team should try to lessen the dump from the investors by making some strategy and if they don't want to dump from tokens they should avoid locking their payments by paying on other crypto currencies.

Saying bounty hunters dump coins an d locking because of this is just baseless. The tokens allocated for the team members are the ones to be locked for a longer period.

Correct the major dumper is the investors since they are the one who receive their share first and been earned more percentage on their initial investment when their tokens nor coins get listed on exchange and bounty hunters is just a secondary with that things. And would also rather agree for paying in other forms of payment since if companies will do that they will minimize the panic selling and regain their price more easier.

Locking of token to avoid dumping I have come to see it as a child's place,  infact it even intensifies the urge to even dump as the token has been locked for quite a while and this dumping comes more from the investors side

If a certain project is going that far in order to avoid possible dumping, that means the project is somehow weak. At least, that is how I look at it. If a certain project is confident enough of its product and how it is being promoted as well as the partnerships they have sealed, they should not be worrying too much on a very tiny fraction of their token supply. After all, not every bounty hunter is going to dump their coins. I, for one, always give enough time for projects to reach certain significant milestones and prove their worth. And then of course, if their coins has a promise to offer to investors by way of their products, by the time they hit the exchanges, instead of dumps there will be pumps.

Most projects seem to do this or do not delay distribution to avoid a dump. Indeed, most people blame the bounty hunter for a dump. That is actually true and neither is it wrong. Indeed, most bounty hunters sell their tokens from bounties at very cheap prices. Therefore dumps often occur.

They should lock a certain percentage of a users holding for a given, investor or bounty participant, to avoid the excessive dumping.

I hope investors should stop pinning the blame on the bounty hunters for the dumping of their token. Only a small percentage of the total circulating supply is allocated to the bounty and majority of it are to the investors so it stands to reason that it wouldn't affect much the price if the hunters decide to sell.

There should be no need for that. If something like that is needed that means that bounty rewards were way to high and people got way to many tokens for free.

Token for bounty only arround 3% - 5% from total supply token so i don't think hunter will make price dump. Price dump depending on the development and results of the work of the team in the project itself.

Next time, let's have the name of the project/coin so that the community would know what it's dealing with. It's however important to note that locking coins down after release has never presented dumping. What it does is delay the dumping. People will always sell off for specific reasons and these reasons will always be reasonable to them. Notably, selling off or dumping is never a crime. Sometimes, it's the team that dumps. I have had a first hand experience of this and it was very annoying.

That is an unfair stuff to do, even the bounty participant has the right to sell their coins after their hard work promoting the project, but they should also need to be able to consider the time when they sell the reward coins that they get

The team mostly holds bigger number of tokens than bounty hunters as a whole so it is just right to ask the team to lock their tokens for a certain time. Anyway, it is their project and it should be the team who should believe more on the project than anyone else.

And also consider the fact that the amount of tokens given to bounty hunters is very small compared to their share. Even if they dump, the price should not be significantly altered by these hunters. The truth is, they are just looking for an excuse for this price drop. If they have valuable product to begin with, there will be price increase instead of this price crash.

yes we should lock the gifts we get, and not immediately throw them away when distributed. indeed the current market situation is difficult to accept because the price is quite low so it is not as expected. but that doesn't mean we have to throw it away. if you have good potential it's better to keep holding it.

The most effective way to stop coins or tokens from dumping in price is the 'buy back' move from the teams themselves ,locking won't actually give any coin or token stable price and can't stop it from dumpers either ,the ball is in the teams court,if dumping crash there token price its not the dumpers faults ,it depends entirely on the team

If locking the bounty hunters token is the only strategy that is being put in place, am sorry to say, it won't make any difference. A sustainable strategy should be put in place to avoid dumping of tokens by even the team, advisors.

Even if they locked or unlocked the tokens, it's still the platform and the community support that will have an impact on its the price in the market, if bounty hunters dump their share which is ok with me, but if it has potential, investors will easily pick it up.

Of a truth, there's no point locking people's tokens this people worked for it and they should be paid for their time. You agreed to pay them why lock their tokens at the end of the day.

dump is not only bounty hunters fault, there are many investor dump it price so they can make profit fast as they can. and dont forget if team can decide where the price go. there are many token still have high volume because of team.
and then its not fair if bounty hunter token locked by team. investor get all they want and bounty hunter get trash at the end.

Yeah you know almost all people think that bounty hunter is cause price down.
I can see why dev lock bounty pay because priority is an investor not a bounty hunter.

You know the issue of dumping is not only a problem to blame Bounty hunters many complicated factors may cause the dumping even the early sale participant that gather huge bonuses can also cause the dumping of coin/tokens that resulting to dump the token price. The real deal is if the token has its own purpose and true use case it will not dump unless it was a shitcoin. im a favor on quarterly distribution on Bounties if needed.

Anyways you are right to some extent but this is not always true. Some bounty hunters do not care about the worth of bounty reward. As long as they can get some few cash from it, they are okay, however there are still some but few bounty hunters who hodl.

ICOs which lock their tokens in fear of bounty hunters dumping are not analyzing the market in the right way. Only bounty hunters are not pulling the price down, I remember late 2017 when I just started  joining bounty campaigns, I sold many rewards early and price elevated after some days, it all depends upon the market sentiments. Locking bounty reward is not the solution to avoid dumping. I have also participated in an ICO which has locked their bounty rewards till Oct 2020 but still price of their token is decreasing like anything. I hope it will recover with market. People should stop blaming bounty hunters for price dumping.  

Actually bounty hunters share is not much to be considered as dumping come from them,so the investors are the persons dumping their tokens so locking the bounty hunters token will cause the value of their rewards to be declined and next time they may failed to participate on the bounties again.

Dumping always occurs after the token is listed. It is inevitable. Only a few projects are considering buying a large number of tokens on exchange. I absolutely believe that bounty hunters are not the main cause of dumping

It is a good point and it would definitely protect projects token from dump, but a much simpler reason is to pay bounty hunters with other coins or tokens or maybe even with stable coins, but not with ICO token. This guarantees the happiness of bounty hunters and a good price for token at the first exchange.

There are always people who want to dump, and there are always people who want to buy the cheapest price, so the dumping is inevitable.

I think it's not because of the normal dumping. The market isn't so good nowadays. It can really destroy a project if bounty hunters also dump. That's why DEV team aimed to share bounty rewards later. I think that's a good decision from the team. It will also give more profit to hunters at the end.

I think Locking bounty hunter tokens are not useful at all avoid dump dump will definitely occur made by a bounty hunter because they are very thirsty with money

The reversal of roles  ;D
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Many of these ICOs foolishly thinks that some of their investors really care about their projects so they do everything to "protect" them by locking bounty rewards. They think investors will keep on buying to drive the price up.   

It is not true but in some of the cases when bounty is high there is chance of dumping but from last few years bounty hunters are not capable of dumping that much as as the coin hit big holder manipulate it according to their need and generally going to good exchange has become difficult thus now dumping credit goes to big holder whether they are investor or someone from bounty Hunter who make multiple accounts for bounty.

There's always the other side of it, if developers are thinking or caring about their projects, they should allocate enough funds to support the barrier of their coins inside the exchange, it's not the bounty who can create big dumped, either big investors or developers itself can make a huge dumped to have big impact, bounty only got small percentage of the actual distributed coins.

I don't think that it would help them to keep their price.
Like I always say we bounty hunters just have a small part of the whole supply and that small part is also divided into the number of participants and types of campaigns.
Do they think that all of us would dump our reward at the same time?
There are some bounty hunters that holds their reward for the future not all of bounty hunters dump their hard earn reward when it gets listed on trading site.

Dump is inevitable lol. After they release the token lock, bounty hunters will still dump it. The best way to avoid dump is to just pay bounty hunters in eth or btc so they will not sell the token and resulting to dip.

It is not always the bounty hunters that contribute to token dump but sometimes they play a big role in dump. I have participated in project that was trading before the bounty token was shared. Surprisingly, just as the token got shared, there was a huge dump in price and the bounty hunters who got a big amount to token felt they should dump. But it's wrong and unfair  to see bounty hunters as the main reason for token dumping.

Locking bounty allocations is a sign of a bad project team. Such decisions only worsen the position of the coin.There are many ways to prevent dumping.

Even without bounty, if the coin is just as worthless as dust having no other utilization or functionality the investors will always cashing out rather than bag holding. I've seen so many projects that are being dumped by their own investors and that sucks.

It's quite wrong when i see that dumping off cryptocurrencies is only attributed to bounty hunters but not investors. I have been an investor of a project before and with how things were going i had to cut my loss on a project so i dumped the coins and left off. I think one thing that would really help to prevent dumping is to cut down the bonus offered to investors during ICO and also distribute bounty tokens in batches or proportions.

if thier project is good they dont mind if the bounty hunters and investors will dump thier hold coin because they will countinue the good proggress of thier project they dont waste money to buyback to maintain the goodprice, because they know that if their project will become better to price also will get better, dont depend only on the price depend on the proggress of project.

I strongly agree with that, if indeed they believe in the potential of the project and their coins, they will not lose buying their own coins because if their coins are good then they will make big profits and will make the seller regret what they have done.
even this can prove to be a team to respond to people who doubt the potential of their projects and coins

Locking it is really not a good way to prevent the price of dumping, its better if they will continue to improve their project so it can be more worth it than what bounty hunters is expecting and for sure they will regret it. The price may dump but it will recover as soon as the investors realize their value.

Developer always blame to the Bounty Hunter because the token price was dumping from ICO price. i also have some project and the distribution takes to 10 month, and guess whats ? the price its still dumping just like other shit project.

As we know some bounty reward is only a little percent from total supply, actually what developer think about bounty hunter is problem from a dumped price is wrong. They should look from Investor side that they join presale and get a lot of bonus. As long they can get profit, they will dump and change to new project.

All depends on the approval of the bounty manager and ICO developer. With locking bounty rewards, maybe they will more easily distribute the amount in clear rewards. And of course the bounty tokens will not make the ICO end dump, because the bounty allocation is only a little of the total sales and total supply coin.

Truth be told that bounty hunters do dump their coins to make profits which is not a bad thing. I believe that it's not easy to avoid price dumps but business should focus on developing and improving on product

Yes, It has been widely proved already that bounty hunters are not the real dumpers, its investors! A lot of projects still haven't distributed bounty tokens yet and some of them has paid but locked for 3 months to six! But still, their coins price has tanked badly! I would mention Wemark's coin name and also Elysian, Envion and many more! Recently Bidooh coin's price was highly dumped before the bounty distribution and even after the bounty distribution, the situation is still the same, not worse! So, this needs to be spread that bounty hunters are not the real dumper!

It is just a misconception when the dumping of a coin on the market is attributed to bounty hunters. It is clear that bounty hunters often hold the least percentage share of the total number of coins generated. Sometimes, bounty programs are awarded just 1% to 5% of the entire coin generated. How can such a small percentage dump about 95% to 99% of the total coin? This raises the concern that the dumping of a coin comes from the larger share holders who are the investors and team members.

it is fitting that we do not blame each other between investors or bounty hunters because both have their respective roles in the ICO project.
sometimes the TIM which limits both of them is a project that is not confident about how the project is progressing.

It is not even fair to blame bounty hunters when their coins dump, why always bounty hunter? Is it because it comes from free? Well, not all bounty hunters are dumper, actually, hunters care for every project as they work hard for it in months, but the matter is the bear market and the project itself. Even you lock the token the whole time, it will be dump still and I don't agree on locking of tokens.

I think it is actually a good idea to lucky bounty reward given to users so that they are not going to dump the coin on exchange because most bounty hunters don't know the value of the coin given to them so they dump the coin at any rate of their choice making the coin worthless for those who actually made purchase of the coin.

I believe it's a very good idea to lock down bounty reward for a while after coin as been listed, so that they can now sell their token based on the price they meet in the exchange.

Locking the bounty payment will not help a lot. So many times, new tokens need a lot of liquidity to protect it. Look at some new altcoins like BTT and fetch ai. Both have already gained a lot of liquidity from majos market and it can protect the price or made it even more.

I also participated in a project where they locked/postponed bounty and bonus distribution and the dumping
still happened. I agree on that that they should find other ways to protect the price from dumping like holder
bonus or buyback or other motivation.

The main reason is that there are no buyers. The situation is very complicated, and it causes investors to be afraid and give less space to new projects. The investor investing in the ICO and thinks that he will get profit after listing. But, on the contrary, when he sees that there is not a buyer, he sells because of fear.

Locking up Bounty rewards is usually a dumb thinking on the side of crypto project managers and their team. Dumping is mostly caused by too much circulating of the amount of the coins or tokens. Generating huge number of tokens and distributing large portion of the tokens to both bounty hunters and investors usually are the cause of dumping. If this problem is not addressed, dumping will always exist. 

I do not care about this locked or unlocked bounty rewards issue. Most of these tokens are not even listed at all for months now. So, bounty hunters should not be blamed for any price dump.

Bounty rewards is just a little part of the reasons why dumping happening. So that won't help i think.

They should not pay excessive amount of tokens to freelancers, advisors, partners and etc. also they should not give private parties %300-500-1000 bonuses, that would help stopping dumps better.

you would have to bear in mind that investors invest not just because they believe to the project but also they want profit. it won't matter how much they like the project but its always about accumulating more of the tokens and then wait for the price to rise up. OP might just be referring to the EOSEX.com project which an individuals can now buy more than millions with just less than a hundred USD.

That is a horrible way to avoid dumping.

Because all people who will think about buying will now there are bounties frozen and he will wait until they are unlocked. So there won't be any volume or anything. It is best to deal with it at start and everything can go better after that.

Locking bounty rewards for hunters in a bid to avoid dumping is an ill conceived idea that should be discontinued. Reason been that: bounty reward is a fund meant for marking purpose, and I think it's a wrong idea to delay payment of the people that ensure massive publicity of a project in other to attract investors. If the team feel bounty hunters are the problem of their project price growth, they should consider paying hunters with a stable coin.

why they locked it in the first place. they promise to pay the bounty hunters to advertise their ico. its just a little of 1-5% of the total supply it will not cost anything in the market.

What coin do you mean stable? USDT? I don't think it will be possible because if they use other coins to pay bounty campaign participants it will make the ico project become a loss, payments are usually different if they use their project tokens.

Locking bounty reward in my opinion have good and bad effects to the hunters and the team.

It can cause trouble between the hunters and the team of the project but not all against of that. But it's right the hunters to gwt their reward to the exact date when they implenting rules in bounty. Make sure all the rules will implement in the first day of the bounty to not having a problems in the end.

      It's not the blame for bounty hunters because a project gets dumping, because for bounty campaigns, a very small percentage of coins are allotted. The reward campaign should help raise the price, because until the reward is distributed, the coins are not sold.
Bounty hunters have worked for their reward and it is normal to be paid.
     I think the big problem comes from the team that runs the project because they have the biggest project capital.

Locking bounty rewards is useless as bounty rewards are around 1-2% and they cannot influence the price
long term. Many projects blame hunters` dumping for the crash of the price of the coin. This way they want
to escape from  their own responsibility.

Because a lot of bounty hunters dump the tokens below the price and  that's why they blame the hunters if their token goes down in the price. Sometimes locking the token too is bad because i had join a campaign which they give the token after 3 months but even if they do it the price of the token is just way below the ico price.

 
It just proved the point that dumping soon after listing on exchange is really not as a result of the actions of bounty hunters. They too invested in the project. The fact is this, there is low demand for newly listed coins at the moment. Also ,some dishonest project teams dump their on coins on the market also.

If an investor or team thinks the bounty hunter is causing a dump then I'll laugh, 1% or 2% of tokens will have no effect on anything, please see the bonus that investors get, it is far greater than the bounty allocation, if product is in demand by all people then prices will be stable in the market
So in my opinion, even though lock token team is bounty but products are very few interested, price will still be dump

Bounty hunters are a small factor in dumping since they barely get 1 or 2% of the coins. There are bigger whales and pre-sale investors who has a bigger effect by their sales.

Locking bounty campaign rewards to avoid dumping? Seriously? Even if all bounty hunters would collect together their rewards, for a total of their token 1 to 3 percent of the total token allocation, still it cannot affect the token's market price since the token is just few and small amount. Investors that will panic selling the one who can get prices down if they sell a large percentage volume of coin.

that's what is still my question why is it that until now always the bounty hunter accused of being the cause of the altcoin dumping?
even though when they have locked the reward for the bounty hunter, the altcoin still experiences dumping. this proves that bounty hunters are not the main cause of dumping. I think if the project team does not give priority to their own benefits this kind of thing will not happen. because I'm sure the cause of dumping is mostly from the greedy project team.

I think most of us that joined bounties in the year 2018 had experiences like that. I was also expecting that it would happen because of the lock-in period but I guess the investors are just for short term and they will sell it after listing because their bonuses are already enough for profit taking. ICO bounties should do buybacks or Eth/btc payment so investors would not get the fear of dumping from bounty hunters.

Locking bounty rewards is not good ideas, how come bounty rewards coins could make price dump with small alocation under two percent, how ever you have lock advice team allocation where they can make price is dump with higher allocation about 50%.

I think it is because some people think that bounty hunter get it free, so they can sell it anytime without think about losing. But they not think about, we bounty hunter will wait for good price to sell our tokens and can wait, not like investor.

I completely agree with the author. Often, ICO  teams shift their failures to the bounty hunters, limiting hunters rights to implement tokens. Although the share of bounty in the total tokens quantity is insignificant and bounty participants can't strongly influence the price of the token if it's in good demand.

Dude, If they want to prevent the dumping, they need to lock the total supply :D So no one can dump and the price will be stabil whatever they want hahaha. Locking does not work, especially bounty hunters tokens. The team should focus on developments.

locking will not make the token experience dumping, but not the bounty hunter likes this, the perception is different if I better share it directly when the project is finished rather than locked it is not necessarily the pump when opened. I know that investors are more important than bounty hunters,

Locking a coin for a period of time doesn't stop dumping, everyone is guilty of dumping and not only hunters. I think project development should be the main focus and not locking

3-5% is like 10 times to much. Do you know how much money that is given for free to others for a lousy advertisement of ICO? IT is not actually advertising of a product but just of ICO. 5% for that? That is 5% for nothing. 5% that will be missed when product will need to be developed or product will need to be marketed. When you see that one ICO is giving 5% for free like this you can be 100% sure that they are incapable to develop anything. _If they plan that at all and not just grab money and run.

In other words, developers are the problems of themselves because all the controls is in their hands, so probably one of the step they feel is needed is to lock part of the bounty’s reward to control the damage which I believe will also have little positive effect on the project,  while they move on to control the part of the investors.

But, I think the best approach to this is what you have already suggested, they need to limit the circulating supply, or better still limit certain access to part of the tokens, though this might be quite difficult since not all ICO pays through the ICO wallet but directly to their ether wallet, maybe all of the ICOs need to impose all coins going through their own wallet first before transferring it out, with this they can still have limit to number of tokens transferred out at once for transaction.

I agree, the majority believes that the bounty hunters always blame that shed their course to the bottom , I think we should not blame the hunters , the better the project let developing what we have to blame

Locking no doubt is an anti-dump strategy and if the project manager feels that locking will help reduce or eliminate dumping totally I think they have the right to lock  their tokens

Locking bounty rewards help with limiting or avoiding the price crash that happens when more users put forth the rewards onto the exchange. This will cause a drastic change in the market value of the respective tokens. Locking bounty rewards and distributing after certain time period has given good results in stopping of the price dumping.

Locking technique is not efficient because when tokens will be unlocked there will the dump.... I think that the best way to eliminate dumping is to have a concrete roadmap and plans after ICO so that Investors could have faith and trust the project.

The main reason that makes sense is that the project itself does not have a strong foundation, especially its community, so the token holder is shaken and changes his mind. Mostly projects after Ico suffered from dumping, but projects that have a strong foundation will survive with development.
Even so, still the bountyhunters are blamed. Though the percentage allocation for reward is only a small portion which should not giving a significant impact to the dump.

if they locking the bounty rewards, are these coins will survive? there will be no volume if they locked it, it is not solution to avoid dumping coins, we bounty hunters want money, we work hard to promote the project. The solution to avoid dumping coins is that the project must be unique and keeps update in telegram, investors would like to invest for sure.

Unique thing, but in my opinion is reasonable because now we are facing the bear market and dumping that might happen because the project cannot develop the project or it might be said to be bad luck but don't despair maybe the project can rise again after the bear market stops

I think it has no effect Locking Bounty Rewards To Avoid Dumping because for me the bounty hunter was the cause of the dump when the first market rilis, they sell at the lowest possible price as long as it becomes money

Will locking bounty rewards help prevent dump? I don't think so. Only 5% of total token how will dump market suddenly. And I don't think any project just pay after campaign end. Although I am not familiar with bounty reward system but I don't believe people's will attempt to sell together at a time. Also is project distribute bounty reward on same day to all hunters? If not then bounty rewards are not going to help them prevent dump.

atleast it could prevent more dump if in locking periode developers team trying to add daily volume trading by adding in several major exchanges.more volume will prevent more dump in price.

you say the truth, but i think mostly ico whos already finish their token sale event, and right after distribution rewards for hunters done, dump was happen, so the hunters itself have a part for making some token price dumping.

It is really a bad idea to lock hunter’s reward and quite discouraging, I don’t even see why their activities should cause major dumping in the coin, because the percentage of their holdings can never be compared to the one with the investors, so if any major dumping is happening, it should automatically sent a signal to them that is should be from one of the large investors since we still have some investor that would hold their coins for a very long term, thank God bounty hunters has been vindicated and there is already a proof that hunters are not the major cause of dumping, though they contribute to it partially too.

I don't support the idea of locking bounty tokens. The hunters should be allowed to spend their hard laboured tokens whenever they wish. You must not restrict them.

Not every new coin has decreased in the market due to bounty hunters but maybe it has become a tradition that bounty hunters are always scapegoats. If we think more deeply there will be many other factors besides the bounty hunter which result in a new token immediately decreasing in price when registered in exchange.

It is always so easy to blame bounty hunters when a token price dumps, some even do it when the bounty hunters are yet to even receive their tokens, a good project team is a good project team and if they play their cards right from the beginning, bounty tokens would never affect their token price in the exchanges.

But from all aspects, the concept of the project is the most important thing. Because investors must see in terms of uses and concepts, if it has good potential, of course, with a bounty hunter it will not affect the price or dumping

To be honest, I can totally understand it when bounty tokens get locked for a certain amount of time. There were projects were bounty hunters caused a massive dump after the tokens hit an exchange. Which resulted in some people waiting in hope for that dump instead of investing in the token sale.

They really need to look for a way of systematically controlling this dumping issues going on in the market, other than blaming it on hunter but I guess they were just doing try and error to really determine where the dumping is coming from, and now that they have seen that bounty hunters makes no significant impact on the dumping, they will let us be.

One thing about dumping is that it will always happen anytime, whether now or in future provided the purpose of putting in money into that project is to get profit and many investors don’t care about future profit but they are satisfied with whatever little profit they get once the project enters exchanges so that they can move on to next project.

Tokens being locked after ICO before listing on exchanges are common to many projects. Some project developers do this many times to avoid dumping of tokens by dumpers. In most cases this methodology works to favour investors. It is obvious that bounty hunters are the ones who normally dump the tokens and thus bring down the price of coins below the ICO price. I am in support of the tokens to be locked before listing on exchanges as this has helped to increase the trading price in many ways.

I also think that this is the right approach. but I also see that in some projects, even before sending tokens to bounty hunters, the price of a coin falls so deep that even bounty hunters are not happy with the prices for which they are given to sell their tokens after transferring to wallets

I think lock of bounty tokens makes no sense because it's so small amount of all tokens, usually it 1 or 0.5 %. Team should lock own tokens and take a hard work to avoid dump imho.

That is the biggest mistake of all ICO did that.
Well why is that? the first thing to know is are they that really strong?
IF they are going up, why did they choose to send tokens of them to bounty participants?
why not just sent ETHEREUM NOT BITCOIN? WTF!

Not a right approach to bounty hunting mechanism. Bounty hunters are impatient generally and i doubt they will say thanks if team decide to lock the bounty rewards for a month.

Bounty hunters alone should not to be blamed or held responsible for dumping because they are also victims of the dumping. How much tokens are usually given to bounty hunters? Amount hardly goes above 2% and I do not think there is a bounty hunter who doesn't want to see his tokens sold at higher prices. What about situations where bounty hunters are paid in either ether or bitcoins. Don't such projects suffer dumping of tokens? What I am thinking is that some investors also dump very well especially when they need money to invest in new ICOs which they think will yield much profit.

I feel like most projects, they don’t try to improve their project, they simply copy others coins and didn’t have any proposal usage and all they did is used bounty hunters to help them advertise and pump up the price, so don’t blame bounty hunters to dump the coins, they spend their time to work on the project, if the project any good, there wouldn’t have many dumpers.

So many projects refuse to pay in time the bounty rewards and this makes me nervous. Bounty hunters also made a decent job for promoting the project and its advantages over the alternative platforms but they wait for the right time to distribute the bounty rewards.

This post is what I am talking about probably in a short term (actually it is normal) that whenever bounty tokens are released there would be a dump but since it is given the team should find ways to ensure that price will still go back to normal like buyback. Locking those tokens won't be a valid excuse for those shitcoins, just like a trader told me before "if it dumps it is normal because of bear market but if it pumps it is because of their development" lame excuses LOL.

Constantly someone will blame each other for lost time and money.I think that the market, whales and exchanges that manipulate prices are to blame.When there were high prices and many tokens gave x for some reason no one complained.

that's where the debate takes place and accusations. This is not to find a solution but only to find fault with others to cover up their own mistakes. people should know and it is clear what percentage of the allocation is given to bounty hunters and only 1-4% is allocated and it is very small to make Dumping. so let's look for a smart solution, don't just blame the bounty hunter. for investors and teams that have more coins allocated please be wise in trading your coins.

Same here and for sure all bounty hunters wont support this idea . we all know that working on a bounty is hard and the pay isnt also guarantee plus this idea of locking the tokens can add another problem to them  but even if they dont lock the token , the price of the token will still be small after it gets listed to any exchange . people wont have the guts to sell them anyway  .

They didn't get the tokens for free they worked hard for it and by looking into this it's too much. Bounty tokens are just a small percentage in the total token distribution. If you would just look at it big investors are the real dumpers here since they have a lot of tokens got from bonuses.

I strongly disagree with the locking token for the bounty hunter, because that will reduce the passion of the hunter, don't blame Bounty for throwing tokens, but if a project blames the bounty hunter, I think the project itself manipulates the situation.

It is not correct that bounty hunters are accused of dumping prices. Tokens sell not only bounty hunters, but also investors, and the developers themselves, and who is to blame for the fall in prices is difficult to name.

That will not help a lot, but the team must use the funds effectively. But most of these ico creators are putting exchange site as useless thing while their tokens need more and more liquidity to protect its demand

As long as the tokens do get distributed in the first place, I don't see any problem in locking them for a certain period of time.

Instead of locking I would propose some motivations for holding, like holding bonus. Restrictions will not stop dumping. Not only the hunters are dumping and locking will  not solve anything.

Yes, many projects gift lock their tokens. And in my opinion, this is very good because of the low market conditions. Many people will sell tokens after they get tokens. But with them locking tokens, teams must work hard to make prices stable or pump higher.

This is already have been practice by some project but still its market value goes down. Not only bounty hunters are dumping their coins but also some investors, they usually hold huge numbers of tokens and once they sell it in low price it surely give a huge effect into the market. Though they have a huge numbers of bounty hunters but their rewards is just small compared to the investors, thus it won't greatly affect even they dump their rewards.

Blaming bounty hunters for a drastic price downfall is absurd. There is just a small per cent allocated to them in comparison with "traditional" investors who purchased tokens with their money. Many are already postponing bounty hunters´ tokens and the price is down even without their intervention. And if such a small part of people can destroy price of a coin, it means there is not that strong demand for it, is it  ;)?

And then why should bounty hunters do their work to promote ICO? Bounty hunters are also supporters like ICO investors, without bounty hunters there will be no investors and without investors there will be no bounty hunters. So please, realize it and give bounty hunters same rights.  :)

Of course, teams doesn't ignore the demand part of the whole story. Bounty hunters want quick cash,that's why they sell immdeiately after hearing the news about getting listed on the exchanges.

Yes, it really makes no sense if Bounty hunters are blamed continuously, because I as a Bounty hunter sometimes always hold Bounty Tokens if the market price is very low, I hold for a high price.

I agree with your opinion, bounty hunters like criminals and always be a suspect the price of tokens is destroyed.
Bounty hunters only have a small amount of the entire token.
then they were slandered by dropping prices, this is not fair.
provide timely payments for bounty hunters.

Investors don't need bounty hunters but bounty hunters need investors to get the payment from projects. They don't have the same rights in eyes of team members in my opinion.

i also have this bounty campaign that i participated that locks all the rewards for us bounty hunters and they said they will completely distribute it in the second quarter this year , and the reward is just a small amount and it is being locked up. Bounty hunters is not the reason why most altcoins are being dump it is because the project itself has jo future that is why the coin is being dumped.

As many people said that the bounty hunters are responsible of the price dumping but i think this is not true because they have only small percent of allocation of the token goes to the bounty hunters.

If the project lacks investor interest, the price of the token will be very easy to dump, such projects often blame the bounty hunters, but they may be the ones who are selling token to the market to dump

Bounty participants were always blamed for dumping a coin while they hold an insignificant amount that would not be able to create a huge price move.
It's mostly the discounted investors, the team's share or like you said, anything given to advisers that are responsible for the dump. If to be locked, the trading should be locked until the projects starts delivering profit.

Before you say have locking bounty reward to avoid dumping you have check more details how many percent allocation for bounty campaign reward, only 2% and how come could make price is dump, you have asking about team and owner why price is dump.

This is the greatest decision a team could do. And I don't know why they are blaming bounty hunters whenever there's a dump. Yes, most of it are bounty hunters, but at the first place, it's their token  now. And if they don't want dump, they should not have done bounty.

I have this token as well, are you talking about EXP tokens on eosex exchange? I've encountered it as well and didn't imagine that the token would dump that hard with the bounty hunters token locked. And I've asked the team if their tokens are locked and ask for proofs but they didn't want to show some proofs.

In my own opinion, locking bounty rewards is really necessary to avoid dumping and I do not object every team that do that. As a bounty hunter, I support every project that I join in and I hope the best for the project so that I will get a nice reward too. And if locking the bounty tokens is the way, then I don't mind them locking that at all.

I don't think bounty hunters will dump all their stakes, every holder of that coin scan dump their shares if they wish anytime, there's no difference between bounty hunters and investors both of them wants to sell their coins in profit if there is dump the one to blame is the team for not providing updates to the project thereby losing confidence.

This is not fair for the bounty hunters reward to freeze for a certain period of time. Because the investors and the hunters both have given their effort in terms of money and time for the company. Another thing is that the bounty and the marketing over all allocation is only 2% of the full corpus. So, this will not affect the price in the market in the long run. So, company should be liberal towards the bounty hunters.

It will not work very well consider about the team will never care about that, they need coin with high liquidity and they never wasting their ethereum that already raised from the crowdsale to create a buyback. Some platforms have been doing it but it does not work.

problems like this do not seem to have been resolved, many of them still blame the bounty, even though they only follow a project if there is a position, otherwise they are also okay, but why are the bounties blamed for everything even though it should be a great homework for the team who manages a project so that their coins have a selling price and make a profit.

This is what I have observed in the campaigns I have joined. It is not the bounty hunters who usually do but also those investors who gain tokens with discounts. I don't think bounty hunters have big impact on those dumping happening after exchange listing.

right and I agree with your idea, even though the token in the key for bounty hunters does not mean the team is still safe from it all, of course they must focus more on other issues such as increased price movements and increase in volume, if the method doesn't work then the team must issue funds to repurchase the token.

Either they will lock it or not, you cannot remove the fact that bounty hunters and investors will dump the token when it will be unlocked.

Lets set an example. I'm an investor of ICO X. I invested in their token and I got the maximum bonus that an investor can get. The question is will I sell the tokens if I know that I will profit if I sell it??? Definitely yes that is why investors invest in an ICO to get profit right?? That is the truth. Those investors who will not sell their coins when it is listed on an exchange is a certified stupid unless the investors has trust on the project.

For my own opinion ,i think they're need to fix their reward for bounty hunter for example 250,000 pure USD or ETH but depend on bounty manager ,if this happen their token price was still remain and there's no chance to dump their token price.

I think to lock the bounty rewards to avoid dumping of its price is not necessary at all. Because bounty allocations is only a small amount of percentage, unlike for those who invest, they can possibly dump the price if they sell right away after listing.

Locking token is one of the method to prevent dump, but not 100% effective.
The investors of the ICO can sell with the dump too. I think few ways must be combined to prevent dump in the market.
Locking tokens, vesting period, personal cap in sale, buyback, etc.

Well, it’s not a bad idea to try it out and see if hunters dumping bounty really has any effect on it or not, but I believe it must have been glaring to them too that the effect of dumping done by bounty hunters doesn’t have much effect on the coin.

Most projects to are not just sure of what makes people dump coin easily even if they are good, I have some campaigns I have gotten their tokens for the past one year now and yet to enter exchange, I really don’t blame them for not entering exchanges yet till they fully develop their project and have a fully built working product. Majority of investors too contributes to why a project is not appreciating yet because we don’t stay with them for a while to fully grow their projects before we start dumping their coins.

Actually, there is no need to blame the bounty of the hunter. Because they match what they do and they get tokens. Then when the coins have entered the Exchange, it is very natural if they are ready to sell coins. If coins have a solid development team and prices have the potential to grow. They will definitely hold coins.

These days team tend to have this belief that token price are dumped by bounty hunters which is wrong, what i observe personally as a person is bear market there are no enough demand in the market which is putting pressure on the price of the token. Also the team are not doing enough to promote the value of the token.

If the project has many investors interested, the project's token price will increase but some projects are not good and the team is not strong, they often blame the bounty hunters that really is not true because bounty hunters only receive a small percentage of tokens

I think locking bounty rewards is a bad idea as restrictions can have the opposite effect of what they want to achieve.
Motivating hunters as such exchanges doing during the listing period  is a better idea.
 (locking tokens for a certain period and being rewarded for it -candies)

I think this will be quite a laudable idea. It will help to protect the real investors from losses their investments as the price of the token will be within the ICO price.

Lots of ICO investors are just looking for a quick flip and will dump impatiently if there's no increase in value after an asset lists on a secondary market, and there's also larger investment groups who purchased during the private sale and pre-sale rounds who don't always have their holdings locked for a period of time who can contribute to lower prices, but sometimes this can be a great buying opportunity just ensure the project has a strong use case and long term viability

This is there way of preserving the token liquidity and it is seems effective because the market price of a token after it will be listed will not be undervalued in terms of its liquidity. There are good things on this so even if I myself would do this to protect the project and smoothly implement it first to create more demand prior to unlock bounty rewards and that only includes investors also.

This is for.the good of the investors and for the bounty hunter so.instead of complaining about it why just be patient and do another bounty hunting at other projects and consider the rewards token as an asset.

The bonus that is too large in my opinion is also a factor that has made the market today also decline and for me there must be a change to be able to get that profit, because we know that many get losses

Locking bounty rewards cannot eliminate the dumping of a coin because Bounty hunters are not responsible for the dump of a coin on the market. Bounty hunters holds just a small percentage of the total supply of a coin - normally  a percentage allocation of 1% to 5% for bounty program. How can such a small percentage cause a dump of a coin? The major dump comes from the team and investors who hold the large portions of the total supply.

Agree, many reason why the price of token down. Its not about bounty hunters, sometimes early investor dump their token because they had big bonus when join in private sale. Its about the project and if the project worth to hold for long term, i am believe hunters wont dump it at cheap price

actually locked coin / token from reward bounty is good
and the team should work on the price and keep it stable until the token unlocked
the problem when the market volume or buy order can't handle the sell order from bounty hunter

true. locking isn't the good way to avoid dumping from the bounty hunter
the fact is bounty hunter just holding like 1% or 2% from total supply
so the real dumper is the hit run investor

Your probably correct at what you said that is not the bounty hunters are being blaming for the prices dump, when you look at the distribution only 1 to 5 percent for the bounty allocation and the big allocation goes to the team and investors.

Always not fair with many ICO team fault with bounty participants, you have think without bounty participants how come make your project know by all investors around the world, always have positive think with bounty participants.

unfortunately most of people blame bounty hunters.but that's not totally wrong in my opinion,sometimes private sale contributors did it.if developers team didnt lock the bonus they sold it first at market.

Most of the massive dumps are executed by the team members and advisors, but the bounty hunters are blamed for the dumps. Its nice to know that the bounty hunters have been vindicated in this scenario. I'm in full support of your view as regards the locking up of rewards. Let the team lock up their own rewards which is always much more than the bounty hunters and establish a scheme to cushion the effect of the dumps.

just locking friends, bounty will also be able to feel the results of his hard work but prices in the market must be stable first so that prices do not fall and cause investors to panic then they sell all the coins.

joined odem bounty and the team really work well to avoid the dumper
they release the coin on big exchange with mininum trade $10k
the bounty hunter can't even touch the market so they sell coin /token to alternatif market like etherdelta , forkdelta

Yeah it should be the teams share and why to blame hunters. They work for it within months, the difference is hunters invested their time and investors invest their money. Both have equal rights to sell anytime they want, really dont blame them because the main reason why the token dump, was from the team, lack of ability to manage  the project within the situation.

I also encountered a bounty campaign which the management team locked up the bounty rewards given to the bounty participants when their token is listed on crypto exchange/s to avoid massive dump and there are too many bounty hunters who complain about it. For me, it is better for the management team not to locked up the bounty rewards but to limit the quantity of selling of bounty rewards each day.

i think that's normal, they want their reward paid as soon as possible when campaign already done.and when developers team decided to lock bounty reward they protest about it.personally i am prefer do this way till dev team provide high liquidity on exchanges so price could stable although bounty hunter dump their token.

I don't think locking bounty hunters can stop dumping of cryptocurrencies when they are listed on exchanges, after all bounty hunters are only given a small portion of the total tokens so how really does this meagre amount of tokens affect the value of a cryptocurrency for a long time. Team's of project should put in a good token economics to actually drive a constant use of their cryptocurrency and also should give members the reason to hold by buying back and also air-dropping tokens to those who may be holding their cryptocurrencies. I believe strongly if these measures are put in place the value of a token would be maintained in the long run.

I don't think it's fair to blame the dumping of tokens to bounty hunters only and i don't think locking of bounty bounty rewards will prevent it. If a project is solid and the developers and community are all active then the possibility of dumpers will be lessen, the main reason of low price and dump is because we are currently in a bear market.

Usually the numbers of bounties reward is small amount it is around 1% up to 5% max of total token supply, it is not enough for bounties hunters to dumping their coins on the market. I don't think it will gives bad affect to the price of token, so there are no reason for locking bounties reward after the ICOs end.

all of it could have been. Indeed the numbers are just a little on hold by the bounty hunter, but when a small amount is sold all together will surely cause a decline in the market. Moreover, if the market has not yet formed a strong buy. This is common on the new token is listed on the Exchange.

A very disappointing decision for the bounty hunter because the token locking rules were never promised before, for me this was an unfair decision

There are several ways of how to prevent the first exchange dump. First of all, if projects would not be so greedy, they would pay hunters with collected ETH, BTC or whatever. And secondly locking tokens for a month is not the worst decision.

If bounty projects pay bounty hunters for cash each week or months the bounty will be better for them because they are working harder, and to avoid dumping of tokens that are blaming bounty hunters. So in bounty projects should pay the bounty hunters exactly as they do for the betterment of each other and for the better to be a successful.

What is it I get the feeling that the developers themselves are buying their own token to fake the sales stats and then dump them when it hit the exchange, I don't have proof but if they locked the token for bounty hunters, then who are selling their token at a lost, even the bonus cannot compensate the losses.

Locking Bounty reward did not help any project in the crypto history! I am here for a long time, And I have enough experience in bounties! I don't know why ICO project owners afraid about the bounty hunters when they helped them to gain success! Last year, many ICO project locked their bounty token to avoid the dumping! Recently Terawatt announced that they will distribute bounty token months later! But their decisions is like killed their project! Terawatt has no volume at all, and price dumped by 100% already, and a good project like WMK also facing a lack of investors, because bounty hunter left this project. WMK locked hunter's tokens more than 4 months, so they are suffering now!

it will happen to more of the projects when they see a project is going to be less useful for the public,. i have heard about the project and i see nothing to it as the world are up for renewable or solar energy but i never really think it will be funded that it will be listed also in an exchange. nevertheless its already there. if investors had dumped all their tokens, distributing bounty tokens will put them more to a dangerous situation. ;D

I agree to you not only bounty hunter sell token when they distribute but also some investor dumping the token to buy back at low price no need to blame bounty hunter we do our jobs to promote the project we also deserve a right payment and we have a right desicion to sell or to hold a token.

The project teams are the ones to be blame ,there are ways to prevent dump if that's what they want ,the buying back trick works and I like projects that implement the buying move ,dumpers will always dump I don't see anything wrong in that

Buyback should be the best way to prevent the dump from the bounty hunters but a lot of icos are so greedy to holding rather than thinking how they can save the price of the token. Provide a big exchange site may become the next solution.

Locking bounties won't solve any problem and i don't think bounties are the cause of the dump.

The reason is the greed ico holders have. There are lots of solution to dumping problem and they all directly about the greed they have.

It's difficult to find another effective marketing because people also difficult to find profitable token/altcoin where there are many new project also occur nowadays.
Overall it's depend on themself !

I think locking partial of the coins holder is not really a feasible idea as i am sure dumpers exist in hunters or even investors the least possibility person that will dump the coins i assume is the team members.

They can lock the coins as they think it would be a risk that would dump the price.
But that is not transparent, during the start, they were able to recruit supporters through the bounty program because they have a very good rate.
But changing it afterwards, I thought it's kind of unfair practice that should not be tolerated.

Most of the time, buyback can be a good solution if the team behind are really legit, knowing that the project that they've created will be usable not unless they've got nothing behind, they should left a reserved funds for continuous development and progress, locking bounty would not affect anything as we seen that it's only a little percentage of the actual collected funds, so how this bounty hunters can hurt the real progress if the team behind is ready for good solutions to avoid it to happen.

The project team has the right to decide how to deal with the coins, because it is in their interest to do everything to the value of the coin after entering the exchange immediately fell. And if it is necessary to prohibit bounty hunters or investors to trade for a while, I do not mind, a good coin in the future will only grow in price.

Yeah it's still same because bounty hunters will still sell all their coins after the receive it. So it's kinda useless. It's works though to avoid dumping but only in the beginning, after the bounty hunters receive the tokens the price will dropped and more dropped.

Dropping its price is inevitable even those bounty tokens would be locked yet as you said bounty hunters will still sell off those tokens.The difference only is that the project will able to sustain that dump if it
already stabilizes or built up its trading volume which can hold up such dump and eventually recover once again into the previous level before the dump of bounty tokens.Overall, this would still depend on the potential and support of such token.

Crypto is about decentralization  and any centralized, administrative measure would not prevent from anything.
Give value to the coin and it will have demand and won`t be dumped.

Bounty hunters and investors can both dumped if they knew that they are already in profit and wants to get out of the project, it's their stakes anyway and they are free to do whatever they want in it if the project is good the price will recover.

Bounty hunters are now  very careful when it comes to selling the tokens they are rewarded with, so some of them still hold, which is why there are projects that paid bounty hunters and yet, their tokens still surge in price. Examples of such are; CTP and BCPT as we as host of others

In my opinion, it's not fair and if the campaign will state that they are going to lock their token for bounty hunters, no bounty hunters will join the campaign, it's like deceiving them for their hard-earned rewards, I don't trust Project that does this for bounty hunters.

that's right, i also don't agree with that.
if that happens, i think the project will lose a lot of trust in their project. not all bounty participants are dumping, some of them are definitely buying and selling and i think that can help the price of tokens grow.

You know what, there are so many things which comes available to the end of the year on this 2019. I hope that bitcoin would be making such interesting profits.

That's an interesting practice. Looks like some of not amused bounty hunters could buy some coins and dump it's price just to screw the whole thing up.

If you are trying for make bounty campaign is hard you will be disappointed with your ICO is failed, without bounty campaign participants promote your ICO never make your ICO will be success and could raised hard cap target.

yes you are right. First of all is for a project to focus on its development, implementing its goals and promises and on bringing the ways that would attract investors like incentives and others. It will be a sheer inappropriate to blame bounty hunters for the fall of their projects just after hitting the exchanges. I have also heard that some projects have locked for a certain period of time tokens allocated under bounty campaigns. What is interesting is that these projects have not gotten their coins go up even when locking coins allocated under bounty campaigns. So I think it will be a wiser idea to look smart ways to rise their coins in prices. 

The price of the token is adequate to market capitalization (initially the amount collected in ICO). And the dump caused by the 'hunters' is momentary, as they represent only a small percentage of the token holders.  ;)

Often the main reason for price drops is that the ICO had a big bonus offer, say 40% off. This means that if you sell as soon as the coin goes on the exchanges, you're still likely to make a profit. Add to this the simple fact that if a coin didn't hit hardcap, then this means that supply exceeds demand, which is a classic indicator that prices will fall. Also, volumes for new coins can be extremely thin - if there are no buyers beyond a couple of traders, then it only takes a few sellers to cause prices to fall.

It's not as simple as just blaming bounty hunters for price drops.

Personally, I see the lock of tokens a sign of a weakness from the project. Good projects don't lock their tokens and still their price continues to rise constantly.

I'm confronted with this problem quite often. Today, most of my crypto wallet is blocked in the form of a Bounty reward

Crypto wallet being blocked ? Thats strange . i thought rewards can only be locked  . i dont know whats their motive of locking the wallet were the wallet does not have any coins inside it .  oh well   , thats not fair . as a bounty hunter myself i work hard to promote their project but why they dont pay me correctly ?  this idea of locking rewards can soon be a reason for bounty hunters to stop doing bounties   . 

Hunters are their tools to say that the price of token was declining due to the bounty hunters dumping but the real fact is that the projects is not worth of that price the project team was quoted.

really, what should be locked is the team token section, last year many of the ico projects used this method, but nowadays there have been many changes to the ICO project, this will bring destruction and make investors reluctant to follow ico again

When the project is established, it should be considered that this happens. If you do the appropriate measures. This will be avoided. If the project has great potential, investors should be happy and buy the currency below the ICO price.

If investors should be happy that they can 'buy the currency below the ICO price', what would, in your opinion, then be the reason to buy during the ICO at the first place? If they can rely on these dumps after the token sale, there is no incentive anymore to really invest in the ICO.

This is the possible event that will happen.

1- The coin will be dumped by the team themselves. Cheap move by the team, there were many teams doing this. They are just taking advantage on those who invested and trusted their porject.

2- The coin will be dumped by the bounty hunters. All bounty hunters care is the payment of their work. I think this is just the part of the system when there is an ICO that has a bounty. But, this kind of thing will hurt the token of the project. This is why whenever there is a payment from bounties in which I joined, I try my best not to sell. Since I put my trust on that project. And when it could get high and when I think some investors got their ROI, I'll sell.

I guess that this kind of possibilities makes the ICO less trustworthy. The ROI of each project is too low for those investors. That's why many does not want to buy in ICOs right now.

I dont understand such compaies, they guilting market and dont develop their projects, I think if project is good and have interesting idea it will be working

If for example %1 out of the total supply of a project is given to thousands of participants to share     how will it even be possible to have any meaningful impact on the price of token? Other than the crazy bonuses given to private investors who supported the project financially at the beginning, they have the power to dump price,   judging from your post it did shows that after locking bounty hunters reward price of token still tank which shows hunters reward is not the real issue here.

There is a very good way to solve this problem - to pay bounty hunters in Bitcoins or Ethereum.
But developers do not want to do this for two reasons. Their tokens, which they pay to hunters, cost nothing to developers. And also in the event of a fall in the price of their tokens, there will be no one to blame, because bounty hunters will be paid in hard currency.

Locking up bounty hunters reward to prevent a dump in price is not the solution to the problem, rather as already stated above project owners should reward hunters with btc or eth to avoid dump of an upcoming tokens of a project, but sadly only few campaigns actually pays with btc or eth, the rest only wants to reward with their tokens regardless of what will happen to price afterwards, the team are not been reasonable, can't blame hunters who wants to cash out.

I agree with you, locking a bounty token is not a good thing because even though dumps cannot be avoided, except for a project that has a strong community I think dump of a bounty can be avoided

That is why despite bounty hunters not being paid early enough, tokens still dump. Most projects teams are after their personal gains. They want to dump what they have and abandon the project, leaving investors with their predicament.

I thinks thats a good idea, but please dont do that,  because we as hunters, mostly of us but not all of them make a bounty rewards for our life need, because of course we need fast money to used.

it all depends on the strategy of the team how to overcome the dump of the bounty hunter. if they care about the market, they should be able to keep the initial price for a few months in the market by secretly repurchasing the coins sold on the market. it will foster community trust in the future. and it can also grow larger investments in their projects.

Actually I don't think that this will be a solution to your problems. Since there are a lot of team that is cheating on both investors and bounty hunters. If they want to just lock up the tokens they will do that so that they'll be to dump first not those two parties I stated.

I really like this discussion but sometimes the team just need to go with lock bounty tokens option because not always project is going to have money for buy-back operations in mid-term future.

It is a nice way to protect investors pay bounty hunters in eth or btc they can also use cash for bounty participants to avoid token dumping after listing.I like the way of some bounty campaign that pay bounty hunters separately amd gives them a good benefits after promoting the project,this issue must be warn and muat be known by bounty teams.

There are so many problems with bounty especially bounty holders of the tokens they get in the bounty they encounter one of their problems are the dumpers because once the bounty is done and distributes the token and when they get it They immediately sell at a price even though the price is so much in the bounty so the other admin in their bounty they first crack the token so as not to dump the price otherwise the allocation for the bounty is only limited to preventing the dumpers especially if the allocation of a bounty is huge but there are also scams of bounty and excessive quantity and I can say bounty hunters are bitter especially if they do not know enough and if they do not know the legit bounty.

As a bounty hunter i really like that, in any bounty campaigns we usually wait more then 10-12 months to get our bounty coins and we make rush to sell them in first minutes in exchanges. Otherwise the price would go more down, as we all know that. But we can wait more months and after our bounty tokens unlocking we can sell or trade with the right price. Everyone should ask for this..

There won't be any guarantee that locking token rewards for bounty will prevent dump in the market.
They think the investors invested on their project will never sell their coin, but they are wrong.
Some whales investors may want to sell some part of their token to invest in another better project they just found.

Coin development depends on the ICO team. This team must be more solid and able to work hard to attract investors. Although many coins have been reduced the coin has managed to rise again. And now many coins are the key to avoiding decline. This is actually not effective enough to keep prices stable.

Every bounty hunter don't want to see their tokens dumping even if possible the tokens always be pumped but unfortunately there is no such thing that price of movement for each tokens will be so different depend on exchange volume or the devs communities how far they can maintain their projects to avoid dumped

No one want to see the tokens dumping but the problem is the bounty hunter themself that makes the price fall, they sell all their tokens once the token listed on exchange and it makes the price dropped. Maybe if all bounty hunters hold the tokens, the price will not fall.

Why many coins are the key to avoiding the decline? this was discussed about the possibility of the locking period to the bounty reward to reduce the dump. If the team can do a proper development and attract investors and that will create FOMO that will give a huge impact to the liquidity and i guess you have understood about that.

I believe that bounty hunters have the same rights as investors, because they have invested their time and effort to make the project to collect its funding goal. A much better way is to pay them with stable coins or ETH/BTC.

locking the prize is indeed important but there must be a number because if we lock too long then the token that gets from the prize is of no value anymore. so if you don't want to regret, don't lock it for too long, in my opinion

Yes, they keep thinking bounty hunters are the reason for the dump in price whereas that's not the truth. Many projects are now doing this, and the funny thing is, the token still dump far below ICO price. The team focus should be on developing or improving their products not the other way round, as dumping will still happen, but once the project have a solid use case or the team working towards their aim, the price will start rising again.

in any case, if tokens are blocked, the team has its own plans for the development of the project. therefore, there is no point in worrying about your rewards, because Bounty Hunters will therefore be able to trade these funds without problems.

I wonder why mostly investors and project managers always blame bounty hunters for dumping, no bounty hunter after his or her hard work on a project for months will just dump for some penny whiles he or she knows holding is the key to soar higher. There are a lot of projects out there with bounty rewards locked yet there is still dumping. Who is dumping? Let the bounty hunters have their peace of mind.

Bounty hunting is a kind of part time job for most of the people. I believe if projects thinking that bounty hunters are always dumping their coins then they need to pay bounty any other liquid tokens this can be ETH, XLM, LTC whatever they want. This is the best way for both side.

I certainly understand what you are saying. But it seems to me that the developers of many ico companies are trying to sit down with one ass on several chairs. Of course, from a theoretical point of view, they will be very much expelled to the participants of the Bounty company in Bitcoin or ethereum, but in practice this will not happen, because it is much more important for them to save the funds received from investors than worry about their project.

It has to be a strong connection between all parties: team, hunters, investors so they all action in the behalf of the project.

I don't think locking up bounty hunters alone is the solution to solving dumping of cryptocurrencies when listed on exchanges. I think it is good if project managers distribute tokens to both investors and bounty hunters in ratio with the ratio of investors being slightly higher than that of investors.

This might sound weird but trust me both investors and bounty hunters dump coins sometimes especially when they don't see the reality of the project.

I, too, during the years of work in the bounty campaigns, understand that bounty hunters are not the cause of the price dump of new coins

That would be great. But often locking bounty rewards is just a ploy to make time to off into the shadows.

Dumping coins and its subsequent dump  by hunters is a fallacy. As already mentioned above, hunters get 1-3% of the pool. Even locked bounty rewards does not stop the dump. If the project is promising, often early investors, acquiring coins at a significant discount, will specifically dump them when coins enter the exchange to buy them at an even lower price.

yes you are right and some investors don't care about prices on market. they will sell it without thinking of a loss because what they sell is only bonus they get when they are pre sale or ico

To begin with, locking bounty rewards does not stop a token from dumping

F you need an example; you need to look at the foresting token
It has dumped while bounty hunters have not been paid

So is Ichiba coin

Although hunters do not do it in every project, but they are the reason for most of dump. Yeah, investors sometimes sell their coins, but because they think they are gonna get it cheaper. I have done this a lot of times.

if the level of concern has started to be extreme, it's better to pay a bounty hunter with only USD, and let the tokens have good value and avoid dumping after listing. so that investors and teams get profits.

This is a job that is not easy for the Team to do, but they must continue to work hard to keep the coin price stable. If the token has been locked, I hope they can work creatively so it doesn't take long for the token to be locked. And after the key is opened, the price must be able to soar.

If it helps to stabilize the token price then it wouldn't be a bad idea, but they have to inform the bounty hunters beforehand. It would be wrong if bounty hunters not informed before and bounty rewards locked after ICO.

If the dump still occurred when the token for hunters locked, then the dump is not caused by hunters.
The team must do something about their token, so the damage of the price can be recovered later.
There are too many ICO ended with token price crashed to the ground.

Dumping is inevitable when the supply of a coin is greater than the demand. In fact, most projects are dumped by the team because of their selfish desire to take profit. To reduce the issue of dumping, the project should have a buy back plan to take their coin away from weak hands and use trading competition to drive the value higher.

Yes, I often hear this in different groups on a telegram. Basically, investors complain to the team to block the bounty hunters' coins, as they can bring down the price with their "5" coins. But this is a mistaken opinion! Bounty hunter is also interested in the growth of the coins that you received, since the time spent is as priceless as an investment (only investments can be returned, but time spent is never), and even earn 40 instead of the original 20 which is more attractive. Locking bounty awards does not affect the price

I think that's the decision of the bounty hunter. They sell tokens at the price they feel satisfied, and those who accept risk to hold may be lucky or not. The majority of the price of tokens depends on the project.

Why people are complaining only bounty hunters for dumping price of any project? if Bounty hunters are the main problem then they should not launch any bounty for promotion their project. WHy they don't pay btc/eth instead of token?

When do bounty hunters sell their token quickly after open trading?
Bounty hunters sell their token quickly when they don't trust or depend much to the team project then they try to sell at any price. but if they feel about the project that will be Good in the future and holding will be better, then bounty hunters also hold the token. So the project team should pay btc/eth as bounty payment and be more promising to the investor and as well as bounty hunters also. Thanks

They can pay the bonuses many times to avoid the dumping of bounty hunter. And that's just the smallest way. Whether a coin survives pumd or not depends on whether the DEV team is good.

Can we suggest also that the private investors wil have their tokens locked?
They are the one who has the biggest discount in this ICO.
Bounty participants will not like to get small amounts and being blamed for most of the time why dont we look on other sides?
OR! ICO TEAM Shoul pay the participants in BTC and ETHEREUM?

Blocking team tokens is what really matters! bounty hunters own about 1-2% of the time and it’s very sad to realize that they can influence the project somehow!

I completely agree. Bounty hunters are often getting paid after investors, which is unfair. The irony is that, the work of bounty hunters brought the investors to the project in the first place.

Locking Bounty prizes to keep prices good I think that's good. But the situation must be well thought out and can have a positive impact on price increases. It was a difficult task for the Team to continue to develop coins. And for the Team don't lock the Bounty prize too long.

Why only USD? Why not BTC, ETH, or any other established altcoins?
If every bounty would pay USD, then all hunters in all campaigns might have to undergo KYC.

As long as its stated clearly to the sight of every hunter before bounty campaign begins. Hunters will accept it if fair enough but I am sure that their are many other Tokenomics that effect price dump which is amount of token available fir sale, team and advisors. Private and presale bonus matters alot too

I agree with you about the buy back option,  because later or sooner they will still unlock it and bounties hunters will still do the needful by dumping it on the market,  the team should focus on development of the project to win the investors and bounties participants heart by not dumping

Locking the tokens for bounty hunters will not stop price dump when it hits exchange unless there is a big development on the project which could pull the value of the coin to grow away from its ICO price. always remember that a coin will go up or down in an open market but the true value of the coin will depend on how the project progress.

Correct. I also think a person with that mindset would dump either way, Locked or not.
Thinks like fines or rewards wont even help where people want to dump on a little spike and going the short way out.

Locking of token can never prevent the price not to fall, for every token that was distributed 90% of those that received have that mindset to sell off so even if it was locked for 2years, the same thing will still happen

very difficult indeed to reverse the situation after listing the coin to the market exchange. the absence of repurchases and sales at the same time makes the tokens sink.

To link topics, IEOs also require locking of tokens post listing to mitigate the risk of dumping.  Another benefit of the IEO, they are protecting investors and the company.

all depends on the strategy of the developer. if they want to run their project first and can get investors who want to buy their tokens on the market, I think the decline can be overcome. but most early investors and bounty hunters are impatient in waiting to be registered in exchange so they can immediately sell the assets they have.

Yes, now many gift tokens are locked and this is indeed happening because of keeping the token price experiencing a dump. However, he also received many protests from the bounty hunters because they were not in accordance with the rules that had been made. My token is still unsold and is still locked, but I don't see that the coin is growing.

That sounds bullshit for me and why? have you seen veriblock IEO that has been hitting bottom price that makes a lot of investors are getting looses? I hope you can see that and you can change your mind about IEO. not all IEOs are good for me personally.

I think bounty hunters now HOLD because they didnt get the amount they expect and they are waiting for better prices while investors sell to stop their loss.

Locking bounty rewards to avoid dumping it is not good for me because it is not the bounty hunters are responsible of dumping the price as you can see the allocation of the bounty is almost 3 to 5 percent i guess, the responsible of dumping the price is the investors because they got huge of bunoses from the ICO.

I wonder why the blame of dumping is always on the bounty hunters where they just did their jobs. Not all bounty hunters are dumping once a certain coin is listed. Most bounty hunters are actually holding their coins until they get a better value to sell. Locking their rewards would never be a good idea.

right, and after all this is the payment for what you work so why its needed to lock? If they dont really want to dump thier token then they should buy the token from bounty hunter before listing it in exchange. in that case dumping will not be blame again to bounty hunters. Usually the reason why its dumpinh is not from the bounty hunter but the project it self not giving right update for  development is the reason why investors affraid and lose the trust to the project and decided to sell thier token even if its lost.

you are right,  many of this projects blames the hunters for dumping tokens where by most especially the advisors dump big time without hesitation and they putit all on hunters. Now the hunters tokens are locked and dumping happened,  let's see who is to be blamed

Your right, but you have to remember investing comes with inherent risks and while not all IEOs will provide results, I think the framework of an IEO is a step in the right direction.

How is it a step in the right direction? Is it more transparent than an ICO? How many can participate? I'm talking about IEOs on bigger exchanges here.

I'd say IEO are a step in the right direction when it comes to the credibility of the projects. (In theory) an exchange should have made an detailed background check on all the projects so that there won't be any scams on their launchpads because in the end that would also reflect negatively on the exchange itself.

But you also mentioned some negative aspects of IEOs: On the most hyped projects it's almost impossible to be fast enough to invest and a lot of users experienced technical difficulties.

Locking of tokens is actually the last thing that i look at when it comes to dumping of tokens. I have seen projects that locked up tokens for a long period of time and as soon as the lock up period was over both investors and bounty hunters dumped their tokens on the listed exchanges.

I think what the team of projects should do is to carry out the development of the project in a very honest way and earn the trust of most of its community members. If the team is able to gain maximum support from their own community there would be no panic sales of tokens. In addition, they can also put in mechanisms such as incentives to reward token holders etc. I believe if all these are put in place the tokens would not suffer massive dump as they do when they are listed on exchanges.

I'm using the assumption that exchanges are doing their due diligence and investigating the projects they accept on their exchanges for IEO's.

If this is not accurate then we have a problem for sure, I guess stick to reputable exchanges (obviously) and time will tell if they have a greater success rate. 

Investing is always risky and there are NEVER guaranteed returns, adding another layer to the legitimacy of a project is, in my opinion, a step in the right direction.

 

i am against the locking bounty rewards. if i have done my work, i would like to be paid for it and not months to wait. we usually have to wait for a long time for the payment and if the token then remain locked for months, the time is simply too long. if a bounty campaign announces a locking time in advance, it is a reason for me not to participate in this bounty.

As opposed to what the OP said,  i believe building a viable product is what the Cryptocurrency verse needs now. Team must be willing to look past prices changes and build a NECESSITY- a project that is needed by all

We have seen this countless times but at the end the coin still gets dumped. The thing most ICOs should be concerned about is creating an utility for their coin so that people will actually want to buy it. When there is demand the coin will not be dumped.

Honestly speaking many projects are not dumping because of bounty hunters, some investors these days are fund of dumping the even a good project to the lowest you can ever imagine.

Most coins are weak , and almost a little of themselves represent something and because of this fall , I think because of the hunters are unlikely to fall to the bottom of the course

I am not sure if all of bounties hunters they sell all of token on the same time, except they are one account  ;D and i am doubt about that. So i don't want blame the bounties hunters because of the price goes down and i don't have data about my claim, however they are part of cryptocurrencies community and i am sure they have knew the risk of bounties hunters.

Most of these projects have a weak coin that wouldn't stand the test of time in cryptos market thus immediately  listed it will experiences dump in its price which in most cases blamed on bounty hunters.
Although this is peculiar to almost every tokens or coin when listed however a very good project will bounce back and pumps after the initial setback of course there are countable numbers of such coins eg oyster token etc.
Locking the tokens is not a very good ideal of preventing dumping ICOs should just put in more efforts in sustaining on their project in the highly competitive crypto markets.

Is this a joke? Why investors sell their tokens on low price below the ico price lol. It's because of bounty hunters sell the tokens after they received the tokens and it makes the price fall hard. Also if the product still not finished, usually the token price will keep low until the product finished.

I hope the majority of the bounty hunters are not dumping the coin because after listing the coin price is going down which will help to hold them instead of selling them for short term profits. So people should wait for the price recovery as long as possible until the market starts recovering.

They will dump ??? ??? ???
They want to cash out so they will sell it to get their reward, if the timing of dump is good, it will not affect the value that much
but in bearish situation it will give a very bad effect, that's why locking bounty rewards now is the only option devs see.

Its actually a good strategy. We can't deny the fact that majority of bounty hunters dumped the price of their tokens immediately after they get their rewards. They are just after for a quick cash. Locking the bounty rewards will not just prevent dumping but it will also increase the token's value over time and at the same time it will also make the bounty hunters realize the true potential of the project and they will get more value for their rewards.

I think its not reasonable at all to lock bounty rewards to avoid dumping because bounty allocation is just a small portion of the whole token generated so how come it affect the dump if only 2 or 4% budget for the bounty reward. Doing bounty needs effort therefore we need a fair compensation.

Yes, because many hunters do not see themselves correctly after the coin is released. Although there is also a controversial issue. If the project is strong, it does not allow the price to fall. I have already seen many times that a strong project is just a growth every day.

Funny thing is that I've seen some of these investors actually asking the team to lock up bounty rewards in some telegram groups.


It's not a joke. Some ICO investors have openly admitted to dumping so they can buy back at a lower price, increasing their bags in the process. The strategy seems to be working for them.



You are speaking as if you have a crystal ball. We are not even sure that the value of the token will be worth it once the bounty rewards are unlocked. Perhaps you haven't seen a project yet that despite the effort to lock or delay, the dumping still happened. Go check Foresting's value right now, they just started distributing airdrop and bounty rewards.

I think you are quite correct in your statement,bounty hunters are not the only sector who dump crypto tokens,from what we observed investors,team members and advisors can also kill token prices in the market.  I  agree with you that other methods of token development should be adopted.

In my opinion, locking bounty reward will not stop the coin from dumping. Its a free market and every person has the right to buy or sell a coin. The bounty hunters may be guilty of contributing to the dumping of the price of coins, but they are not the only reason. I think rather than the team locking bounty reward, they should set aside some funds for buying back their coin from weak hands, thereby preventing massive dumping.

This is one of the best ways of how to protect the token price value. But much more effective way would be if hunters would be paid with ETH or BTC instead of their own tokens. This is a win win solution where everybody is happy.

I think giving a good benefits on bounty hunters can prevent the dumped of tokens after listing,pay bounty in cash or btc or maybe eth at first so they cant be dump the tokens that is one of the best thing to do right now to protect investors and to make sure investors will make profits.

Yes, everything you say is right. BUT bad people, none of life was not removed. There are no ICO regulators and they use it. They don't care about you.

I think this is a stupid slogan when bounty hunters do their jobs to help the project grow faster and attract more investors, so they have the right to sell the Token they receive from the bounty. Many dumpers because they need money to pay their daily expenses and have the right to sell if they don't want to hold it.

It such an ignorant way to lock the bounty even if the purpose is to avoid dumping. Though, there are so many ways to avoid dump so why they need to lock?

Yes, the lock does not help. The reason is that if tokens are worth nothing. Then he will not be worth nothing. So many times I saw how these projects fool us. Going out on bad exchanges. Or just throwing a coin without support.

Those ones that blame other hunters are for dumb are just naive or just being selfish cos they are the ones that sell of once there's any reward given to them. I just laugh when they talk about it.

In order to avoid blame the bounty hunters for which the token prices will be exchanged for exchangers, the operators of the project will have to separate the bounty hunters from their bailouts. They can repay them of btc or eth that is worth the amount of work on the project. That's one way to protect investors and re-make a successful.

It is simply not possible to avoid price reduction, because a lot depends on the global cryptocurrency market. If you look, you will immediately see that there are a really large number of projects that immediately after being placed on the stock exchange fall in price.

even with the buyback method and that will not help a lot. market depends on the bitcoin and that's the main point. Bitcoin is the only thing that can decide where the crypto will go.
but another factor like they can't attract the new demands make them all getting decrease instantly.

At least team will be sure about dump issues after getting listed on the exchanges they are convinced to use this methodology. There is no perfect escape system but not giving damn about it will bring worse things back.

How about every crypto or altcoin is definitely a dump. If the project locks the token for bounty for the sake of no dump. Maybe that in their opinion is one way to avoid a dump. Maybe they want the altcoin to be stable first and after the new stable they share gifts for bounty participants. Because we can't do anything except follow what they say.

This is a campaign decision and they better know which strategy to follow. If a coin falls into the very bottom, then nobody will ever know about it. Sometimes blocking is the right decision.

Then why do they let big or private sale investors sell their token cheap? Same rules are needed to be a case for private sale investors who bought bulky tokens for the cheap price.

This may be a good idea, but most developers always issue tokens to hunters after 30 days when the ICO ends. Therefore, investors always receive tokens before bounty hunters and they have the right to sell them or retain them if investors want to not worry about bounty hunters' influence.

I don't think the biggest reason of dump is bounty. Teams are selling private investors tokens too cheap compared to public sale and they are mostly paying all freelancers with their tokens. Bounty tokens have an effect but compared the things i mentioned above, it is just a bit.

I agree with you... Also, I think that many bounty hunters which believe in project for which they are doing bounties, will always have an eye on that project to buy even more coins or tokens at good prices.

Locking of bounty token can never prevent dumping  and if for any reason the 5oken must be locked why that of bounty hunters alone,  what of the investors token or am been made to understand that investors doesn't  dump their tokens. 

A good project will stand tall irrespective of the tokens been distributed to investors and bounty hunters. When a token dumps its either the developers are not doing their jobs or the community is not strong enough to assist the the project. Token dump has nothing to do with bounty hunters and i wish the team can read my mind.

A well grounded project need not worry about locking of bounty reward. There are some projects that have done better even even with distribution of bounty reward and some have done worse even without distributing the rewards for bounty. In essence bounty hunters really do not have effect on price dumping. If they think otherwise, then they should pay in ethereum or bitcoin

LOOOOL, locking the rewards not the bounty thread, bro!  :D :D
You gave me a good laugh.  :D

Price of the token won't be affected in any way if their bounty thread is locked, OP meant locking the bounty tokens sent to bounty hunters to prevent a dump because they can't sell for a fixed time after they received their rewards.

I think it was just a confusion, does it make more sense to you now after my explanation?

I am agree. I think token dumped by bounty hunters not giving a big effect to the price if the project worth to hold for long term. Investor prefer hold the token or coin as long the project runs and produce a working product. But the idea locking bounty reward in certain time is good

Hunters who receive a token number are only 3% -5% of the amount sold by the ICO. The drop in prices is not due to bounty hunters. The problem is that management and working groups are not good and the market is now larger than demand

I believe this post is very accurate on a lot of notes because bounty hunters generally do not get over 3 to 5% of the total budget of the project so it is absurd to think that this 5% is responsible for dumping the price of the tokens or coins on the exchanges.

Most of the time they are other values responsible for this such as excessive bonus given out to private investors the allocation to the team and advisers as well with no lockup.

No lock up of team and advisor tokens mean that, this group of people can decide to dump their tokens on the exchanges in large amount without any oversight.

Like it has been stated in this post, there are more realistic ways of avoiding the price dump which includes a buy back procedure, trading competitions, loyalty programs and others like that and also most importantly locking team and adviser tokens.

dumping make investors psychology disturbed too.moreover if developers team could not deliver product in near future , maybe following dumping token could safe them from unvalue token latter.

Theres a same occasion that i have joined in telegram that the team Freezes the bounty for 6 months to avoid necessary dumping but as expected the price dumps more lol
There’s no locking that must happen,because the successful projects will progress even the hunters dumps all their bounties
And also they must find investors,lure them because of the project goodness and if this not happens so it only means the project is not worthy of trust

should investors already know the plan made by the team. If the initial time is listed at the exchange of experience the dump. investors should stay calm because of the already existing roadmap, and investors certainly know if dump is happening will do what.

This is really funny but most times it is done by the distributing team,i have followed some projects and I noticed that even without bounty distribution tokens, the price dumped so hard ,this can also be as a result of exchanges without volume., very easy for price to dump.

They stop saying hunters are the cause of dump, what allocation is even allocated to bounty that can crash the price?

It never worked i see some projects that do the same but the tokens get dumped hard when it hits exchanges, well i don't know if the investors or the developers are the one who are dumping because bounty hunters payment are locked. I think a good solution is to put bounty tokens into vesting, this way only a small portion of tokens get by the bounty hunters every month and it will prevent dumping.

I know investor nowadays is smart. If developer who dump their coins, it will be visible because all token can tracked and there will be a lot of people who mad at them  ;D. But my opinion is early investor that get coin/token in cheaper price and then sell all their coins and then change to new project.

I think its a good idea. Actually some bounty campaigns already doing that kind of strategy and it has a positive effect on the value of the token. Most of the time when bounty hunter recieves their rewards, they sell it in a very cheap price. By locking their rewards, they have no choice but to wait for the price to increase. Also, they will realize that its worth holding their tokens.

Locking bounty rewards does not solve the situation of dumping of cryptocurrencies as investors also can dump the token if they don't get to trust in the delivery of the team. Or if there is no product driving the value of the token from time to time it will surely dump.

This is just waste of time for a project. Locking can't solve the initial problem because many investors will also dump and it depends on the quantity investors bought.only one investors can dump a coin and still worth what 100 hunters will dump.so I believe if project is good on its own dumping won't affect it alot. Project that stand will still stand even when there is mass dumping.

Exactly what I think so many team behind many of these struggling projects should have adopt. Often time,  investors shift the blame all on bounty participants when in actual sense, it is the team that has failed woefully in puting the proper measures in place to prevent price crash as this  has become too rampant nowadays..

Agree, if the project is good, i think developers team not worry about hunters dumping their reward. For real investor, if the project looks promising, when bounty hunters dump their reward, its good time for buying because sometimes the price in market below ICO price.

I had been taking a part in Miracle Tele bounty last year and I locked(stacked) my bounty tokens at their site for getting biweekly reward for them.This is a very smart way to prevent bounty dumping.

I nevertheless admit the possibility and necessity of blocking our tokens in wallets for some time by the ICO team in order to avoid dumping the prices of new tokens. Now we see that almost all new tokens, as soon as they hit the exchange, immediately fall in price, and not at times, as before, but hundreds and thousands of times. The point in this case is not a bad team work. The reason for this is low investor activity and still in a poor state of the cryptocurrency market. Therefore, I am ready to wait a little in order to be able to make a good profit in the future.

Actually i dont like locked reward, this is bad option, Yes i agree team should think another ways to avoid dumping in market, The team earn so much money from investor, they can use that funds for buyback, or doing monthly airdrop for holders, so people will buy it and many more. And they should know, not bounty hunter make it dump

This won't solve the problem my friend. In the best case this decision will only postpone the token dump. But in my opinion a much better solution would be to pay hunters with collected funds like ETH or BTC, to eliminate this problem completely.

At first, I think the same too
Hunters make the project value dump, but after realize so many token get dump even without hunter get token first, I think so many reason why the project get dump
First, the investor dumped their token, sounds funny but in fact it happens
Second, the project isn't good enough to attract people or investor when launch on the market, so yeah the price is definitely dump
Third, project didn't get enough demand cause investor realize isn't good to put their money there and so many various reason

Maybe not only you who experience events like you. I have tokens but until now they cannot be sold even though the token is already listed on the market. They have locked the tokens because they want to keep prices stable. But in my opinion this is not effective because of the growth of tokens because of the solid Team.

There is no point locking the bounty rewards to avoiding dumping, If the project is top class enough the price of the token will always find it's way back up, but if they project behind the token has no value it will still get dumped eventually even though  bounty tokens are locked.

To avoid dumping of tokens the developers or the team must give a separate payment to bounty hunters on their rewards on promoting the project.Because bounty hunters are always the reason why tokens dup but for me this is not accurate because investors are the first to have the tokens and they rush sell tokens if they saw no chances to grow its value.

but locking a token for a bounty hunter really means a lot to the price stability of a good project. where today I see a new project that has been registered in exchange for a fairly stable, but they have not distributed rewards for bounty hunters. after distribution for the part of the bounty, the price decline is very drastic. in fact it does happen that way, and we can now see the market of these assets.

Looking at it from a practical approach teams should be focused on providing their communities with value. An incentive to hold their coin - whatever that may be.

As soon as you try and game the market and restrict freedom of trade then you lose. Imo.

Some projects have their own norms and rules. So they lock bounty rewards in a bid to prevent prices of their projects falling right after hitting exchanges. They do so just because they think that they are bounty hunters who promote fall in the price of their projects just after exchange listing. But I think it is not the matter. If one has a good project, it will grow over time no matter bounty hunters sell off their rewards right after exchange listing.

I also think so. The effort to promote is not underestimated and they deserve what they have after each campaign. We should have a certain balance and should not be too important to investors. that will bring positive effects to the project.

Whenever I see bounty is been locked to protect coin price from dipping, I smile and laugh since its a total bluff. So far as you will lock the coin forever just forget it. Look for another way to stabilize coin rather than locking. Bonuses given and buy back could be looked at.

It is not a bad idea to lock bounty rewards, if it helps avoiding dumping, but company should mention it in their bitcointalk thread and website, so that bounty hunters should know it before joining bounty.

such events are a form of unpreparedness from the market that is built on existing communities. the team had built a community of their token holders, but the development team forgot to build their market community too. there is no market purchasing power that keeps prices down. everything is not wrong from the bounty hunter. therefore the bounty hunter reward key is done, even though it's not a good solution.

These days most of the bounties distribute the tokens after specific time period. Earlier participants weren't that aware about the price dumping, now everyone have known much about the delay in the distribution. These days Telegram channel from the respective project give regular updates on the distribution of tokens which is truly fair.

Bounty allocation is just a small part than what is from the investors so blaming the dump from the bounty hunters is really a damn stupidity.hunters are being paid so late these days and the investors has already dumped their tokens/coins before hunter does so what is this blaming?blame the investors and praise the hunters who work to be popularized those projects

Bounty hunter get 2 to 5 % of the total coin allocated.  So they are not the real number behind dumping. The problema is that actual investor is in fear that if he hold for Long Then he loose all this money. So instead of waiting they are trying to recover whatever they can. If promoter are thinking that bounty hunter are behind this Then they must give Edward in some other form or ready to give 5 or 10% Edward for holding during particular time And Then give back to promoter

I think each developer token has a strategy to maintain his tokens. but I think not all bounty hunters are the main cause of the token price being a dump

Hey! Thanks for your response. The majority of the users don't read if anyone replies after they submitted their posts, so I'm pleasantly surprised by your answer. :)

It's the nature of bounty campaigns that participants will dump tokens, especially of campaigns of questionable tokens. If an ICO raises a sufficient amount of money and its token has massive liquidity, the actions of bounty hunters on the project will be negligible. If bounty hunters are so detrimental to a project, then more than likely the issue is with the project itself.

I also don't agree that bounty Hunters dump token all the time affecting the price of the coins. Every project that goes to bounty, the team should have a plan to cushion the effect of such dump.
Of recent, I set a bounty that will be picked for 3 months. I just moved over. No time to check time.

locking the bounty rewards still not guarantee that the coin will be got dump
as i know that many people invest in the ICO because there is a bonus for every money we invest

and usually, the investor looking to get profit by selling the bonus he receives

I don't think it will help much because the real reason for the dump is that investors get a big bonus. the project average that locks the bounty token is still dumped. rather than doing this, why not accelerate the development so that the platform can be launched. with a platform that has been operated, the token will be used. so the chance for a dump is very small.

The impression that bounty hunters dump and in turn many project lock bounty hunters tokens to avert that but in reality most projects locked bounty hunters tokens and the price of tokens keeps falling so this has not been proven because the investors are the ones dumping, some of them get ridiculous bonus which makes it easy for them to dump

Yes it is not a bad idea to lock bounty rewards but that doesn't mean that you can prevent a coin from dipping. For me, there is no way to prevent a coin from dipping its price after distributing it to investors and bounty hunters and listing it into an exchange.

People want to get their profits right so after listing it, they will immediately sell if not all a large percentage of the reward they got. They want to get the money that they worked hard for months :D.

It is possible to come across such bounty. But as mentioned it can be useful to prove that bounty hunters are not dumper. Hunters may cause drop, but they are not the real reason. Recently several projects have thought that this kind of step could prevent the fall, but unfortunately the result is the same.

I think the post reward dumping is to be expected. Instead of locking the funds just buy in cheap when people do dump

Locking bounty reward token can't really prevent any dumps in the future.
Even if the bounty token still not distributed yet, the token price can dump. You can look the Elysian project.
They are delaying bounty distribution, already 1 year passed and the token price still dump.  ::)

Bounty programs are normally allocated with 2% - 5% of the total supply of a particular coin. How can sales of such small percentage dump a coin on the market? The mega dumping are always from either the investors who are too impatient or from the team because these too bodies always hold the biggest share of the total supply. I think both investors and team must also have their tokens locked to prevent early dumping on the coin before the full development of the product or platform of the project.

Those campaign who are locking bounty rewards the management of the team project are not thinking properly. Bounty hunters did their part to support the project and yet in the end it is not right that they took the blame of dumping their tokens to the bounty hunters were was very unjust. Even before to some other campaign without locking the bounty rewards dumping its price value still continued happen in the market. Meaning, locking bounty rewards is still useless at all and its not helping too.

this is actually not an excuse because there is still a solution to reduce the level of dump starting from holding a gradual distribution or conducting a trading competition during the bounty distribution. some of the projects I saw actually increased in price when doing so. all depends on the strategy of their team to maintain prices. don't make bounty a reason

Not a good idea to lock bounty, the question is why you created the bounty program when you don't want to distribute the tokens/coins to people who spread your torch?
One thing the team can do is to release the bounty in batches so that it don't create the sudden sell pressure over exchange. but personally i believe that one should not mess up with the nature and let it as happen as it was always.

Exactly, if the developers are concerned with the future of the project, they needed to create new ideas to make sure the project will not be dumped after reaching the exchange, the percentage of bounty funds is too little to reflect with the whole value of the coins inside the market, they can actually buy it all after reaching the exchange just in case hunters decide to sell it right away, from that scratch they are now free to worry about possible dumped.


Unless the dev itself are part of the dumping process and just pointing things up to the bounty hunters, but everything will depend from how the team and community embrace the process.

i think it will only works for a short time because once the bounties token delivered to the bounty participants, they will still sell their tokens directly to the market. so it's kinda useless for me, locking bounty rewards also not guarentee to avoid dumping. i'm sure there are some investors that will continue dumping.

Indeed we do not have the right to prevent coin owners if tokens have been shared. And indeed there must be a dump which causes the price of the crypto currency to fall very far from the ICO price. As a wise crypto currency player then we should not sell massively the coins we have after the distribution of prizes if we are not forced. must be smart in looking for opportunities until the price improves. Besides that, ICO can anticipate the occurrence of their coin dump by sending the payment of the token is not very direct. So maybe it can be in two or three stages.

But I think that will work to prevent the dumping at the market, and the participants don't sell their token after the token was launch in the market. They will think to hold the token as long as they can especially if the token project has a solid team and community. But it will depend on the participants itself, whether they will agree or not.

What the point locking bounty rewords, their number almost always so small, that has no effect on market value. Besides payments always made after the listing, this way the team protects the interests of investors.

some bounties lock the bounty hunter's tokens to prevent price dumping, whereas there are not many tokens obtained by bounty hunters.
although there are actually some projects that succeed with this strategy. but most of them failed.
the price continues to fall even though the bounty hunter token has been locked.

I have joined also recently a project in which they locked their bounty rewards for at least four months. I have no idea whether it is type of strategy to avoid dumping of their tokens or it is only part of their marketing plan.

This kind of doing is not half bad as it will surely help to minimize the dumping of coins especially to the bounty hunters. But this kind of scenario can be applied only to those project who have a very low potential in reaching to top. If the team knows that their project will become more useful in the future, there is no reason that they hold the bounty rewards as bounty hunters are also part of their marketing department.

And also, not all bounty hunters will dump their tokens upon receiving it. Maybe 50% will dump the tokens without any second thought but the other 50% are rather wise. They will think whether it is time to dump or hold it to receive more profit in the long run.

Whether locking the token in a few months can keep the price of the token good. I don't think all tokens can be like that. We also saw that many bounty hunters also experienced disappointment because the token was locked. But the Team must also be consistent with what they do so that it can increase the price of coins.

Yes, a holders reward program could also help minimize the token dumping. I've also done the same with projects that offer such.


I guess you should just wait until your bounty rewards gets unlocked and compare it to where the price was when you first got it.

Give the hunters about 1-2% of all coins , and then say that hunters are to blame for the fact that the rate fell down and never rises , I think danym it is already known that if the project is not developed and the course will lie on the bottom

If the teams behind the project knows what they are doing they might be able to come up with better moves within the time that the tokens are locked to avoid dumps after unlocking the tokens, price stability  isn't easy in crypto space but it's possible, it depends entirely on the teams

Of course, it is ridiculous to observe how after the collapse of prices after the ICO, they are constantly blamed for this by bountists who have a maximum of 1 or 2 percent of tokens. This is stupid.

On this rules, the number one who got affected on this was their bounty hunters. Imagine there are some of the ico project campaign aside from lacking the bounty rewards they will not distribute the whole rewards instead, they will limit the distribution to their participants instead of 100% they will only send 10% of the total token amount every month, what kind of rules is that, very unreasonable. This is not the answer to avoid dumping its price value in the market.

It's hard to say whether or not, but I believe that there is some element that has a strong impact on other bounty hunters, making them believe and spread  :(

That's right, there has never been no fraud in this market. I agree that it is currently not best for us to eliminate scammers, you can only wait one day for ICO to offer something that can filter out scammers, maybe  ;D

Many people dont know that the reaons for token dump on exchange is not because of bounty  huters but mainly due to the amount of bonus token allocated to private sale investors.  These investors buy token durring private sales at a very low price and dump at the exchange when ita being listed.  At that point they have already made their profit

somehow the bounty hunter is always blamed when a coin or token has a significant decline.
it is true that almost all bounty hunters will immediately sell coins or tokens they get from prizes, but the problem is how the allocation of funds for small prizes is only 2% of the total supply that affects it.
I, as a bounty hunter, also felt that my coin locked and the project prioritized investors to get profit first.
after investors reap profits and coins for prizes reopen, prices continue to fall and bounty hunters are still blamed.
Isn't that funny where we still have a bounty hunter who is always wrong.

I think, The dump actions is not only come from bounty participants,,, and remember a smart bounty hunters will hold their rewards until a good price..
Anyway, Early investors with huge bonus also can dump their coin too,,  but, people always said if the bounty participants is the main causes, from this dumping actions
Regards

This is not the right solution. There were thousands of projects that have distributed huge rewards to the bounty hunters and there was no token dump at all. This depends only from team management and their decisions.

This is a common method being used by the bounty campaign managers and ICO promoters to deny payments to the bounty hunters. In most cases, 1% or at the most 2% of the total pool is devoted as bounty. Is it possible to crash the prices using this small number of coins? This is a silly excuse being used to hide the real dumping, which is most often done by the ICO promoters.

And one more thing. If the promoters complain about dumping by the bounty hunters, then just ask them to pay the rewards in BTC/ETH.

Very often, ICO teams have recently blocked new tokens earned by bounty hunters in their wallets. This is done for a period of three, six or even nine months. In general, this is one of the most logical and effective methods to prevent the price of tokens from falling after transferring them to the exchange. However, using only this method will not give a noticeable effect if it is not used with other similar methods.
In addition, participants in ICO bounty campaigns cannot influence very strongly the dumping price of a token. Lower prices are more likely to be influenced by early investors who buy tokens at the initial stage of ICO with big discounts.

the dump on a coin in the market is not merely a bounty hunter's mistake, because there are some projects whose prices continue to rise even though the bounty hunter has sold their tokens, now it is indeed a trend if the token is locked within a certain period of time

I have never seen the reason behind locking up bounty rewards and i dont know why they even think and do it, bounty percentage of most projects are %1 or most of the time lower than %1, so i wonder how that small percentage would dumb and affect a project, when investors are getting 25% bonus on their investment and then investors sell of investment to make more money as soon as possible

There is a valid reason behind locking up bounty tokens (or tokens from private investors that got a huge bonus). Especially for projects that have a fixed bounty pool and that don't sell that many tokens. In these cases bounty hunters can have a massive influence on the price.

If the project is good then the price will not fall. And there is a bad one, however much they block the tokens, it will still fall in price. Hunters sold and will sell at reduced prices for them is just a job and nothing personal.

I think bounty hunters reward is not the main reason why some projects token price gets dump. Some reasons are investors don't trust the project that much so if they can sell it immediately in profit they will, if the team doesn't have solid plans on their project the price will surely fall.

I very much agree with your proposal. In most projects, the behavior of locking bounty tokens ultimately makes the rewards of bounty hunters very low. When the token was first listed, the price was very attractive, and over time, the price continued to drop, or even returned to zero.

I think it's true if the token so entered the market price dump, it's not a bounty hunter fault, it's purely because the team doesn't work seriously. They sometimes work lazy because their ico time is exhausted and already getting funds, so they do not hard work anymore and leave their tokens, there are even tokens left by the developers directly. It's difference if the developer is serious, so the token price is good in the market. So developer no need locked their token for bounty hunters.

obviously it was a project scam, regardless of what reason they locked the bounty rewards in fact would remain the same would be detrimental to all participants whether they were investors and bounty hunters, even though on the other hand if the developer really did work then they wouldn't be afraid of dumping, and once again the developer is unsure of his own product that is afraid of not having high demand in the market

I can't help but to noticed this as well. Whether the rewards were locked or not the outcome is pretty much the same. The team cannot maintain the stability of the price.
Well, at least they could hold the price before it goes down so investors could have an early party than hunters. That's from my experience so far.
Sadly for hunters only has the left-over from the party, or worst, the projects doesn't have any value anymore.