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Title: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Coinifyx on March 22, 2019, 07:10:35 PM
I was wondering where you guys can buy some BTC at good rate without verification in Europe, possibly using a credit card

Must be reliable not collect details


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Beerwizzard on March 22, 2019, 07:16:29 PM
You may use localbitcoins but they have verification.
You can also buy ETH via localethereum and then trade in into bitcoin on some decentralized exchange. But honestly, it does not worth that. It is better to pass KYC and do everything legally. Unless you are not going to launder money.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Coinifyx on March 22, 2019, 07:21:35 PM
You may use localbitcoins but they have verification.
You can also buy ETH via localethereum and then trade in into bitcoin on some decentralized exchange. But honestly, it does not worth that. It is better to pass KYC and do everything legally. Unless you are not going to launder money.

I don't want they to collect my identity

They use the excuse of legality to collect identity kits and resell them to other companies


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: mohammedmattar on March 22, 2019, 07:35:24 PM
You may use localbitcoins but they have verification.
You can also buy ETH via localethereum and then trade in into bitcoin on some decentralized exchange. But honestly, it does not worth that. It is better to pass KYC and do everything legally. Unless you are not going to launder money.

I don't want they to collect my identity

They use the excuse of legality to collect identity kits and resell them to other companies

This does not happen with large stock exchanges
Try to have your dealings with known and trusted parties
Submit your documents and pass KYC and start working.
 


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Coinifyx on March 22, 2019, 07:41:15 PM
You may use localbitcoins but they have verification.
You can also buy ETH via localethereum and then trade in into bitcoin on some decentralized exchange. But honestly, it does not worth that. It is better to pass KYC and do everything legally. Unless you are not going to launder money.

I don't want they to collect my identity

They use the excuse of legality to collect identity kits and resell them to other companies

This does not happen with large stock exchanges
Try to have your dealings with known and trusted parties
Submit your documents and pass KYC and start working.
 


How do you know it doesn't happen? I'm pretty sure the more they collect the more they can make from reselling info


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Zythiphill on March 22, 2019, 08:20:49 PM
I was wondering where you guys can buy some BTC at good rate without verification in Europe, possibly using a credit card

Must be reliable not collect details
I would now offer you the exchange binance, there through visa or mastercard you can buy any cryptocurrency that you need, though there is a percentage of about 3%


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Coinifyx on March 22, 2019, 08:23:55 PM
I was wondering where you guys can buy some BTC at good rate without verification in Europe, possibly using a credit card

Must be reliable not collect details
I would now offer you the exchange binance, there through visa or mastercard you can buy any cryptocurrency that you need, though there is a percentage of about 3%
https://www.binance.com this site?

You can buy without identity verification?


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Indymoney on March 22, 2019, 08:26:30 PM
Day by day we have very strict restrictions for buying specially for Credit Card holders but if you can do some search then try to reach any ATM because now many ATM's offering this service in Europe.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Zythiphill on March 22, 2019, 08:26:38 PM
I was wondering where you guys can buy some BTC at good rate without verification in Europe, possibly using a credit card

Must be reliable not collect details
I would now offer you the exchange binance, there through visa or mastercard you can buy any cryptocurrency that you need, though there is a percentage of about 3%
https://www.binance.com this site?

You can buy without identity verification?
Yes, I bought 2 weeks ago bitcoin and verification was not required at that time


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Catmurs on March 22, 2019, 08:29:23 PM
I used to buy bitcoin on bestchange, the main thing there is to choose the exchanger which has more positive reviews


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Beerwizzard on March 22, 2019, 08:29:27 PM
You may use localbitcoins but they have verification.
You can also buy ETH via localethereum and then trade in into bitcoin on some decentralized exchange. But honestly, it does not worth that. It is better to pass KYC and do everything legally. Unless you are not going to launder money.

I don't want they to collect my identity

They use the excuse of legality to collect identity kits and resell them to other companies
Unfortunately, a lot of people already have access to all data from your ID. Governmental bodies that issued that ID, police, your employer, your bank and many other organization. If your ID had any worth then it could be already sold multiple times but the truth is that no one gives a fuck about it. So you can verify your acc and be sure that no one needs your data.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Coinifyx on March 22, 2019, 08:34:54 PM
I was wondering where you guys can buy some BTC at good rate without verification in Europe, possibly using a credit card

Must be reliable not collect details
I would now offer you the exchange binance, there through visa or mastercard you can buy any cryptocurrency that you need, though there is a percentage of about 3%
https://www.binance.com this site?

You can buy without identity verification?
Yes, I bought 2 weeks ago bitcoin and verification was not required at that time
Thanks for the tip I'll check out

You may use localbitcoins but they have verification.
You can also buy ETH via localethereum and then trade in into bitcoin on some decentralized exchange. But honestly, it does not worth that. It is better to pass KYC and do everything legally. Unless you are not going to launder money.

I don't want they to collect my identity

They use the excuse of legality to collect identity kits and resell them to other companies
Unfortunately, a lot of people already have access to all data from your ID. Governmental bodies that issued that ID, police, your employer, your bank and many other organization. If your ID had any worth then it could be already sold multiple times but the truth is that no one gives a fuck about it. So you can verify your acc and be sure that no one needs your data.

Don't care about government and police, I get called once a day from some random guy trying to sell me random stuff

And I think it's because in the past I put my identity on a trading website


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: moha sasa on March 22, 2019, 09:25:59 PM

-A list of 5 best anonymous cryptocurrency exchanges without KYC verification:-

https://www.ikream.com/2019/03/5-best-anonymous-cryptocurrency-exchanges-without-kyc-verification-2019-27250


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Coinifyx on March 22, 2019, 10:25:58 PM
I was wondering where you guys can buy some BTC at good rate without verification in Europe, possibly using a credit card

Must be reliable not collect details
I would now offer you the exchange binance, there through visa or mastercard you can buy any cryptocurrency that you need, though there is a percentage of about 3%
https://www.binance.com this site?

You can buy without identity verification?
Yes, I bought 2 weeks ago bitcoin and verification was not required at that time

I checked out, it redirects to Simplex which requires a verification process


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Bitcoin-Turkiye on March 22, 2019, 11:38:59 PM
You can buy with a credit card via binance.com.. but maybe they want authentication...  why don't you want to verify?  apps and sites where you can get the  bitcoin with your credit card. bitstamp, coinsbank, lykee wallet, but validation is mandatory.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Coinifyx on March 23, 2019, 12:00:21 AM
You can buy with a credit card via binance.com.. but maybe they want authentication...  why don't you want to verify?  apps and sites where you can get the  bitcoin with your credit card. bitstamp, coinsbank, lykee wallet, but validation is mandatory.
The question is why I need to verify? I remember I used to buy bitcoin from blockchain before these anti-freedom laws

They were pushed by lobbyists to collect people's data, you don't fight money laundering in this way the criminals will make fake identity verifications and will pass through plus their bank accounts are all offshore


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: gentlemand on March 23, 2019, 12:08:25 AM
I remember I used to buy bitcoin from blockchain before these anti-freedom laws

It's dead simple. That was back in the day when Bitcoin was so obscure no one cared what you did with it. Those days are long, long gone. You could also buy with Paypal inside the blockchain.info wallet. Again that would be because Paypal didn't know or care what it was.

It's now on the radar of everyone imaginable. It don't matter how you feel about it. It's not a genie that's going back in the bottle.

If you forget about cards then the most obvious option is https://bisq.network


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Bitinity on March 23, 2019, 12:38:15 AM
I was wondering where you guys can buy some BTC at good rate without verification in Europe, possibly using a credit card

Must be reliable not collect details

Why do not try to buy P2P, just go through your local forum and find good sellers who want to deal with you. Using cash is better than credit card imho as probably the seller wont accept credit card for P2P transactions.
Any specific reasons why you do not want to do KYC for exchange? I think it is safe if you do it on trusted exchange.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: elda34b on March 23, 2019, 12:57:46 AM
Another option is to buy or trade here in this forum. You can use escrow so you can feel safer (use multisig). But maybe you can't do it via credit card, maybe you can do it with Payeer or altcoins.

Any specific reasons why you do not want to do KYC for exchange? I think it is safe if you do it on trusted exchange.

Because he loves anonymity. There's no guarantee 'trusted exchange' won't leak your data outside, remember the case with Facebook.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: n0ne on March 23, 2019, 02:40:45 AM
I was wondering where you guys can buy some BTC at good rate without verification in Europe, possibly using a credit card

Must be reliable not collect details

Why do not try to buy P2P, just go through your local forum and find good sellers who want to deal with you. Using cash is better than credit card imho as probably the seller wont accept credit card for P2P transactions.
Any specific reasons why you do not want to do KYC for exchange? I think it is safe if you do it on trusted exchange.

Exchanges provide with the safest access on your buying. Being anonymous is good, by the same time it should not end into some form of loss getting into the hands of scammers. The best possible way is to find an user on the forum who wants to sell bitcoin in exchange for gift cards. Upon that you can get the bitcoins and provide him with the gift cards.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: pooya87 on March 23, 2019, 04:44:26 AM
if you want to buy with fiat and that involves using banks like wire transfer, credit cards,... then there is no way you could ever find a method online that doesn't require KYC and asks you to submit your identification with them. that is the law of fiat world.

if you don't want that then your only option is to deal with cash and for that you have to find a way to find other people who are willing to do it. check out the currency exchange board, you can even start a topic there and offer to meet up with someone and do the trade face to face.
there is also ATMs which don't require identification but their fees are outrageously high.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on March 23, 2019, 05:29:27 AM
Do a f2f transaction. There are risks of course (you can get mugged) but if you value your privacy alot maybe it's worth it?

You may use localbitcoins but they have verification.
You can also buy ETH via localethereum and then trade in into bitcoin on some decentralized exchange. But honestly, it does not worth that. It is better to pass KYC and do everything legally. Unless you are not going to launder money.

I don't want they to collect my identity

They use the excuse of legality to collect identity kits and resell them to other companies
Unfortunately, a lot of people already have access to all data from your ID. Governmental bodies that issued that ID, police, your employer, your bank and many other organization. If your ID had any worth then it could be already sold multiple times but the truth is that no one gives a fuck about it. So you can verify your acc and be sure that no one needs your data.

Sometimes all that's needed is to look at an FB profile. I'm appalled at the amount of info people put in their public posts. Even with just sharing post and messages in closed, there's a way they can sell your info. If you've used the site, it's likely you no longer need to worry about your info spilling out.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Lucius on March 23, 2019, 11:29:24 AM
Coinifyx, you should forget buying crypto with credit card and without revealing your identity, as others have already pointed out, this is no longer an option in Europe. Reasons are the prevention of money laundering and the financing of terrorism among others things. Also when you paying with credit card your bank is know what /where are you buying, and tax administration knows what you do because it has an insight into your account.

Best way is to use cash and buying from trusted people, and maybe you can find people from your country in you local board. The alternative is certainly crypto ATM, but they have high fees mostly, although there are exceptions.

If you're near Croatia you can buy / sell some of the most popular crypto coins in physical crypto store without any ID for transaction up to some 1000 euros. This is a very popular destination for local residents, but also for neighboring countries and tourists.

https://www.bitcoin-store.hr/


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: AdolfinWolf on March 23, 2019, 09:37:34 PM
if you want to buy with fiat and that involves using banks like wire transfer, credit cards,... then there is no way you could ever find a method online that doesn't require KYC and asks you to submit your identification with them. that is the law of fiat world.

if you don't want that then your only option is to deal with cash and for that you have to find a way to find other people who are willing to do it. check out the currency exchange board, you can even start a topic there and offer to meet up with someone and do the trade face to face.
there is also ATMs which don't require identification but their fees are outrageously high.
I believe there are some dutch exchanges which don't require KYC.

https://bitonic.nl/order only requires that you verify your phone number, since iDeal basically has already all of your info i believe.
There's a couple more of these exchanges, maybe check https://cryptovoucher.io (?)


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: TopTort777 on March 25, 2019, 03:29:07 PM
Nearly 1 year ago I have bought my first cryptocurrency on coinbase using deposit card. I don't remember much about verification, but I've checked my account and didn't find any sign of "verified". In the setting part there is my telephone number and fake address  ;D

I remember that the whole process was super easy, so I suggest to try coinbase. I suppose you are using euro. If you are depositing small amount of money, remember, that each action costs 1 euro (exchange euro to btc = 1 euro fee, withdrawn = 1 euro fee).


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Harlot on March 25, 2019, 05:27:35 PM
Another way is of course buying Bitcoin at Crypto ATMs which all you need to do is to provide your deposit address as well as the cash you will feed to the machine. Here is a website (https://coinatmradar.com/) showing what crypto ATMs are available all through out Europe. If you want to make it easier you can directly put up your country where you living to pinpoint what ATMs are near to you. Keep in mind that the rates here would be bigger compared to what other modes will be offering.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Adriano2010 on March 25, 2019, 08:27:10 PM
Will be hard to buy with card without verification but you should try at ATM who offer this and before try buy get fiat money and after buy, i think there is a limit and you can't buy so much in a day from ATM without verify.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: AdolfinWolf on March 29, 2019, 09:07:50 AM
Another way is of course buying Bitcoin at Crypto ATMs which all you need to do is to provide your deposit address as well as the cash you will feed to the machine. Here is a website (https://coinatmradar.com/) showing what crypto ATMs are available all through out Europe. If you want to make it easier you can directly put up your country where you living to pinpoint what ATMs are near to you. Keep in mind that the rates here would be bigger compared to what other modes will be offering.

I was wondering where you guys can buy some BTC at good rate without verification in Europe, possibly using a credit card

Must be reliable not collect details

ATM's will charge anywhere between a 10-20% fee.
Quote
Bitcoin ATMs charge an average transaction fee of 8.93 percent, Coin ATM Radar said. ... Cryptocurrency ATMs typically charge a percentage rather than a flat fee, like bank ATMs
+ You're not even counting the "Additional fee" which is usually like 5-6$ per transaction.


I guess OP needs to realize maybe that he can't have his cake, and eat it too. Good rates are really relative when combined with "anonimity".

Will be hard to buy with card without verification but you should try at ATM who offer this and before try buy get fiat money and after buy, i think there is a limit and you can't buy so much in a day from ATM without verify.

The minimum purchase is $5 USD per transaction which buys you 0.00157 Bitcoin. In accordance with state laws, there is a $500 daily limit without registration and a $3,000 daily limit with registration? Purchases over $500 per transaction will require registration at the ATM.
Not sure how accurate this is, but 500$ a day doesn't seem too bad.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: UserU on November 13, 2019, 03:00:19 PM
Created an account just to necro this thread, nice.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Annisa_crypto on November 14, 2019, 11:04:52 AM
But till now I haven't seen any exchange where you can buy a coin using a credit card and that to without verification. Maybe you can check in your local areas if you can buy without verification.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Chain Clash on November 14, 2019, 03:35:44 PM
Carbon is offering ID-free crypto purchases via credit card, but they currently ran out of most currencies: https://buy.carbon.money/

They say they will be back soon. It's actually quite convenient when it does work.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: musgun on November 15, 2019, 12:38:42 AM
You can use the application Mycelium for android. Go to the section Local Traders and you can find some traders who trade without ID verification.


Title: Re: Where do you buy without ID in Europe?
Post by: Rose_btc on November 15, 2019, 05:45:51 AM
Did you get the answer of this? Even I am searching for such a platform who sell bitcoins without ID. I strictly do not want to buy from LocalBitcoins, I am scared of being cheated by a scammer, who can give me coins which he got access of by doing fraud and stealing.

I currently buy from coinswitch, moonpay, simplex and indacoin. I find them all good.