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Title: Tips in Trading
Post by: alexsandria on April 02, 2019, 02:55:21 AM
Question: How to sell with maximum profits in high targets when the signal reaches first target?

Possible Things To do:
1. Sell 50 percent of your amount
  • If the price crashed after the first target the stoploss will be executed with the profit of first target for the rest of 50 percent of amount.
  • If the price didn't crashed and reach second target, sell 20 percent of the amount then set stoploss for the rest of 30'percent of the amount a bit little  below the second target.
  • If the the price crashed after the second target the stoploss order will be executed with thr profit of second target.
  • Make this steps for the rest of amount in the third and fourth target.

2. If possible, devide your funds so that you can enter two or more signal.

3. Buy only on your buy zone just open order and leave it to be filled.



Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: r1s2g3 on April 02, 2019, 03:10:31 AM
You will get the investment advice as only invest that much that you can afford to lose. But my personal experience say put only 1/3 that you afford to lose. If your 1/3 investment start showing loss then you can invest another 1/3 for cost averaging. ( Still you left with another 1/3 in case of further depreciation). If you see profits , then I will say to take out profit and find another investment. But it is very painstaking process to monitor regularly and take decisions.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: pooya87 on April 02, 2019, 03:47:51 AM
~Sell 50 percent of your amount~
~ only 1/3 that you afford to lose.~

these are both more of money management rather than trading tips in my opinion.
and that means there is no good way of doing it. all methods are correct and can be good for someone and bad for another depending on their strategies. for example i can go in with 100% of the money i can afford to lose and then get out fully when i reach my profit target regardless of whether price can go higher or not. this works best in pump and dump altcoins. then i immediately look for another pumping altcoin to put all in that one. then get out to go in another, and so on...


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: crwth on April 02, 2019, 03:52:14 AM
It's like being able to control your money spending and making sure that every trade you make would be beneficial in the long run. I have watched somewhere that one trader (he is conducting a seminar) he says that he doesn't lose the trade. That's impossible and it make sense because you are not after the short term, you are for the long term. Your topic has touched his style, and maybe you got it from him too.

Anyways, I suggest learning how to trade with indicators and better than that, you could automate it using a cryptocurrency trading bot like Gunbot (https://gunbot.ph/gunbot-features)


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: maydna on April 02, 2019, 04:00:45 AM
~Sell 50 percent of your amount~
~ only 1/3 that you afford to lose.~

these are both more of money management rather than trading tips in my opinion.
and that means there is no good way of doing it. all methods are correct and can be good for someone and bad for another depending on their strategies. for example i can go in with 100% of the money i can afford to lose and then get out fully when i reach my profit target regardless of whether price can go higher or not. this works best in pump and dump altcoins. then i immediately look for another pumping altcoin to put all in that one. then get out to go in another, and so on...

Work best in the pump and dump altcoin, but not easy to find that coins. When someone can apply many more tips in trading, I guess that he will be able to find out what tips that will work for him, and if he continues to do the same tips or method and always modify the method depends on the market situations, I think he can always make the most profit because he knows what he needs to do related to the market movements.

After all, those tips are good for every trader, and that is the basics that we could use. Don't go with all in when we are not sure, always keep doing analyze when you want to buy and sell order. Maybe I can give some more tips. If the market situations are not going to increase or decrease then that it's the time to leave the market because the next thing that might happen is the market can get down too deep.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on April 02, 2019, 04:10:37 AM
You don't go around writing you opinions as trading tips, what are your qualifications to give this advice? And what are the guarantee you'll be held responsibility in case if lost of fund are experience buy users who try to practice the said tips above. As this is just your opinion maybe clarifying that in OP will be great because there are numerous newbie visiting this forum daily just to seek financial advice (not recommended though) so informing then this isn't one but just your opinion but if it's a financial advice, what are your qualifications?.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: jademaxsuy on April 02, 2019, 07:24:07 AM
Yes it may be possibly do but reminders that market price movement is very unpredictable. It means that you may going to earn now after an increase signal after you sell it may possibly go for more high and to which you need to invest again or wait for downfall but it may take some time if it will going to happen but what if in the certain line it wi going to fall instead it will going to continue raising its market price? So you will be left behind if you will not buy for it. But if you will buy then thr market price is high you have made some losses instead of earning.

So the method to earn is just to hold. BUY now while crypti is cheap and sell after it is being doubled or even reach the possible ATH.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: Upgate on April 02, 2019, 07:40:59 AM
  The cryptocurrency market does not work in a predictable manner you might sell of the 50% and realise a totally unexpected change in price this is due to the volatility of the cryptocurrency market.
It's always important to observe  the market rather than studying tips, because the market tips might not have an idea of what's going at the current situation of the market


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: CryptoInsights on April 07, 2019, 11:59:03 AM
I would add on few points:

  • Analysis before investing
  • ever bet must have stop loss
  • exclude emotions


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: zhekinsp on April 07, 2019, 12:30:23 PM
  The cryptocurrency market does not work in a predictable manner you might sell of the 50% and realise a totally unexpected change in price this is due to the volatility of the cryptocurrency market.
It's always important to observe  the market rather than studying tips, because the market tips might not have an idea of what's going at the current situation of the market

Selling half of the investment when reaches the desired price is actually good idea when you are not greedy.it happens the prices may go higher or lower but atleast you made some profits with the investment and wait for the next time period.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: nakamura12 on April 07, 2019, 05:01:46 PM
If the price continue to crash then you shouldn't sell your coin, if that happen your profit will be for nothing and it will only be used to recover your loss. 50% should be sold than selling portion of that 50% and your profit will be more. The more you sell the more profit will become your capital.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: Bitinity on April 08, 2019, 08:05:58 AM
If the price continue to crash then you shouldn't sell your coin, if that happen your profit will be for nothing and it will only be used to recover your loss. 50% should be sold than selling portion of that 50% and your profit will be more. The more you sell the more profit will become your capital.

Selling coin when the price is going down is basically OK as long as there is a chance to buy it again at lower price. Lets make a simple example:
- You bought at 5000 then you think that the price will continue to crash
- You sell it at 4800 and the price still going down
- You buy it again at 4500 or lower then keep on holding till the price going up to the price when you did cut loss or even till the price back to the first time you bought it.

You can count it yourself the possible profit if such things happen. The main idea is that selling at lower price than you bought is not a mistake as long as there is an alternative plan to gain profit from the crash. 


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: palle11 on April 08, 2019, 01:31:54 PM
2. If possible, devide your funds so that you can enter two or more signal.

This sounds like martingale style to me which is risky to do. Splitting of fund so as to enter multiple trade is not necessary. What I think is needed is to embark on trade that its loss will not affect your balance.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: dark08 on April 08, 2019, 02:16:48 PM
2. If possible, devide your funds so that you can enter two or more signal.

This sounds like martingale style to me which is risky to do. Splitting of fund so as to enter multiple trade is not necessary. What I think is needed is to embark on trade that its loss will not affect your balance.

But sometimes splitting your fund into two altcoin is a good strategy specially if you think that the other altcoin is in the buyzone area which is a good to enter, this is what Im going todo with my trade so far so good but I always set a stoploss to prevent losing so much money.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: Kiweikoo on April 16, 2019, 06:34:57 PM
I believe when you are going into trading, the first mindset you need to go in with is that you could either win or lose a trade and it shouldn't affect your life even if you lost, I remember when I was new to the trading world and don't know anything about it, I lost about $200 in one damn because I placed a wrong signal that caused a big dump in price and my coin automatically became 0 within few hours.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: rysea2 on April 16, 2019, 07:24:53 PM
I would add on few points:

  • Analysis before investing
  • ever bet must have stop loss
  • exclude emotions
Some of the suggestions that you give are simpler and easier to understand even though in reality it is very difficult to do that step. But at least that is what traders must understand and do to be able to benefit from trading and minimize losses.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: Zadicar on April 16, 2019, 07:45:10 PM
This is basically a hedging strategy where you do protect your profits and making adjustments with stoploss once you reached out or nearly hit up that take profit area.
20-30% stoploss is considerable compared to forex markets which is usually on 2-5% but its understandable that crypto do need wide area due to volatility intensity.
I would say this is effective if you do know on what you are doing but im really very very sure, this would be applicable for those traders who do know to use up technicals
with good analyzing and computing skills and very sharp eyes.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: leowonderful on April 16, 2019, 07:48:53 PM
Don't ever trade without a risk management strategy, first of all. You won't ever get anywhere in trading without a proper way of managing risks, especially if you're making several trades a day. Even if you've got good accuracy with predictions, a few losses in a row can easily wipe you out if you don't have good risk management.

Don't ever FOMO into a trade or let emotions get any part of your trades. Emotions are what cause 90% of losses in trading from what I've experienced and seen with other peoples' trading. Also, remember you do not always have to be making a trade. Sometimes the best thing to do is just to not trade at all; there's always a better entry you can make in the future. If you're having repeated problems with emotional trading, lower the total amount you're actively trading.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: vit05 on April 16, 2019, 10:17:51 PM
If you do Scalping, it does not make any sense to sell 50%. If it arrived at your target price or the spreads went down, sale. Sell everything.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: Ailmand on April 17, 2019, 05:23:26 AM
I haven't tried this kind of strategy but I don't think selling 50% would be better. However, I don't want to complicate things. Though I'm managing my funds and my profit well, I don't want to set a specific strategy which I can't follow due to the market's volatility. I guess the basic strategy which is to buy low and sell high would still work better.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: Dark Ripper on April 17, 2019, 09:30:27 AM
I will share now some tips that I prefer as a trader. 1st of all you must have the knowledge on how trading works and what is trading do, 2nd you must have a capital to start on trading so that you can invest or those capital it doesnt matter if it is large or small but it is good if you have a high capital in the first place so that you can gain a profit that is higher too.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: Dark Ripper on April 17, 2019, 09:39:24 AM
I will share now some tips that I prefer as a trader. 1st of all you must have the knowledge on how trading works and what is trading do, 2nd you must have a capital to start on trading so that you can invest or those capital it doesnt matter if it is large or small but it is good if you have a high capital in the first place so that you can gain a profit that is higher too.
One of the most important is the knowledge. I will add some more on your comment, if you really want to start trading you must have a knowledge in which you can gain by researching or studying in some internet sites but one of the best way to do is to ask in this forum and ask those who are experts in trading so that you will know what is their experiences in trading.
In trading you really know how to do it and how it works so that you will know on how to manipulate the trader, for now Im using  darb (https://darbfinance.com/?=crowd) in which you can get experience from other traders out there and Im starting to know what is the strategies of some people to scam so that I can avoid them.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: ryzaadit on April 17, 2019, 10:52:36 AM
I haven't tried this kind of strategy but I don't think selling 50% would be better. However, I don't want to complicate things. Though I'm managing my funds and my profit well, I don't want to set a specific strategy which I can't follow due to the market's volatility. I guess the basic strategy which is to buy low and sell high would still work better.
Buy low and sell high, have a high risk what will you do if the support level got break? Would you just keep buying every time the market making a new dip ? Lets give some example :
Bitcoin from $20.000 to $15.000 Buy
Bitcoin from $15.000 to $10.000 Buy
Bitcoin from $10.000 to $7.500 Buy
Bitcoin from $7.500 to $5.000 Buy
And reach the bottom at $3300, save your money investment its the priority then you can thinking about the profit, selling the crypto 50% i think its a good method, because using a Money Management. Then you can keep the other asset for chasing the profit.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: akram143 on April 17, 2019, 03:01:05 PM
Each and everyone had on Strategies and I will do different kinds of things in different times because it is not a stable market and following the same to strategy is not usable in all the time that's why keeping your strategies not stable it is important to serve and get the profit every time.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: whirlcoin on April 17, 2019, 07:50:46 PM
Question: How to sell with maximum profits in high targets when the signal reaches first target?

Possible Things To do:
1. Sell 50 percent of your amount
  • If the price crashed after the first target the stoploss will be executed with the profit of first target for the rest of 50 percent of amount.
  • If the price didn't crashed and reach second target, sell 20 percent of the amount then set stoploss for the rest of 30'percent of the amount a bit little  below the second target.
  • If the the price crashed after the second target the stoploss order will be executed with thr profit of second target.
  • Make this steps for the rest of amount in the third and fourth target.

2. If possible, devide your funds so that you can enter two or more signal.

3. Buy only on your buy zone just open order and leave it to be filled.


thank you for your valuable topic and it will be helpful for everyone to learn something new and make it possible to develop their trading experience and the experience only make you to get the successful person in any type of field and if you got this you will be the most important and valuable trader in this field.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: roosbit on April 17, 2019, 08:30:40 PM
Something I know works for many , is buy low and sell high but unfortunately this strategy isn't just working because some coins just die without passing initial price and we missing the volatility....I guess on the bright side volatility works in favor of the trader if you think of it.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: YoloBull on April 17, 2019, 08:39:40 PM
Something I know works for many , is buy low and sell high but unfortunately this strategy isn't just working because some coins just die without passing initial price and we missing the volatility....I guess on the bright side volatility works in favor of the trader if you think of it.

That's almost a liquidity issue if the coin is dying.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: Mehr Sher on April 17, 2019, 09:16:46 PM
I am a forex trader first but in recent times, I have started up with Crypto trading, and the only suggestion/tip I can give is that we should work with proper plans and stick to that instead of changing and chopping.

While if there is anything in terms of ways then I say you can use Trading Tools (https://cryptolinks.com/cryptocurrency-trading-tools), which are popular as this can help in making things somewhat easier. But aside this, I totally feel and believe that we shouldn’t do anything fancy.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: yvesp110 on April 21, 2019, 07:30:08 AM
Each and everyone had on Strategies and I will do different kinds of things in different times because it is not a stable market and following the same to strategy is not usable in all the time that's why keeping your strategies not stable it is important to serve and get the profit every time.
Right market is so unpredictable, we don’t know, what will happen next, it is not good to keep in mind that you will have to sell next months because we know If today market is down so it can rise anytime, in trading the most important is not to take any decision at once, you will have to wait and hold when the price is down so latter on you can trade when the market will be high once again.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: cofinder on July 31, 2019, 10:38:27 AM
I would add on few points:

  • Analysis before investing
  • ever bet must have stop loss
  • exclude emotions

Yeah, I think that these are really important points. And if you let I would also add some words about crypto bots. I think that everyone should try using them in practice. If you'll learn how to use them wisely, you can make your trading easier. And I believe in it. Lately, I've decided to check info bot from CEX (https://t.me/CexIoInfoBot), and quite amazed by its work. By the way, have you heard about such a bot? And what you think about trading and using bots at the same time?


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: tansaneehongkao on August 06, 2019, 12:52:26 AM
you should learn mark price and strategies on volatile token trading. after all tokens are volatile thats why you need to scrutinize everything. as in everything. theres no place for novice in crypto world.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: Reid on August 06, 2019, 04:39:12 AM
Will be a lot of work for a long list of portfolio.
I dont think I could do this kind of management.  ;D

For those who have short list this will an easy work. But it also needs some monitoring to happen.
The market doesnt go just the way we want it too. For a lot of times it goes south.

Orders could rot and I dont think we have that much patience to wait for a long time. There is still something good in doing it manually for even a short time.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: bitgolden on August 07, 2019, 03:47:16 PM
Will be a lot of work for a long list of portfolio.
I dont think I could do this kind of management.  ;D

For those who have short list this will an easy work. But it also needs some monitoring to happen.
The market doesnt go just the way we want it too. For a lot of times it goes south.

Orders could rot and I dont think we have that much patience to wait for a long time. There is still something good in doing it manually for even a short time.
That advice and method is really for traders and not for investors, because investors are the ones that usually keep long list of coins in their portfolio with the hope that at least certain percentage of them would increase to an optimal level for them to make enough profit from overtime.

For what op is suggesting, it is only feasible for traders that trades just few coins, because such method requires dedication of time since you have to continuously monitor the price of those coins constantly, prices could change at any time, and before you realize it, you could have missed the opportunity if you are to trade with too many coins. It is a nice idea though and I think I would out it into practice on my bitcoin trading account and see how effective it could be.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: Kemarit on August 08, 2019, 03:30:28 AM
you should learn mark price and strategies on volatile token trading. after all tokens are volatile thats why you need to scrutinize everything. as in everything. theres no place for novice in crypto world.

Scrutinizing is one thing, but investing and putting your money is different. Even if you DYOR, you can really see where the price will go. That's why it is advisable that before you trade, you should have at least a trading strategy, i.e. stop/loss, entry/exit plan. Otherwise you are totally gambling in this market.

The OP has provided a good beginner's advise on traders, it is really difficult to get past the stage wherein you at least learn from your past mistakes. That's why as beginners, you need how to learn to mitigate risk so that you won't get burned and REKT early in this market.


Title: Re: Tips in Trading
Post by: Bunsomjelican on August 08, 2019, 05:49:54 AM
My tips or advise to you as a trader you must be patience, have self-control and self-discipline too, must be a risk taker too.
You should know how to read graph just like candlestick, and proper use of timing when buying or selling in the exchange. And invest in different
potential altcoins in the market like what other said here don't put your eggs in one basket. Good luck ;)