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Title: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Baofeng on April 04, 2019, 03:55:03 AM
Terrence Crawford vs Amir Khan on April 20
Venue: Madison Square Garden (MSG)

Crawford will defend this WBO 147 lbs title against Khan. It's a good match up but Crawford has the tools to beat Amir though. Amir Khan is a great fighter, but I think he is no longer in his prime and Terrence is riding high and considered to be the pound for pound best fighter right now. So I will go on Crawford here, maybe 10 rounds or less.

https://i.ibb.co/PhNhKV7/crawford-khan.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Photo courtesy of https://www.boxingscene.com/photos-terence-crawford-amir-khan-face-face-london--135404


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Jating on April 04, 2019, 04:37:01 AM
This is something that you really appreciate with Khan though, he has the balls to face very tough opponents. And for those who are not aware of, he was brutally knock out by Canelo Alvarez, yes the same Canelo who faced triple G.

He has a china chin and once Crawford hit that, it will easily break. I don't know that the odds are, but Crawford will be too much for Amir and he might end up being KO again.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: mu_enrico on April 04, 2019, 05:05:50 AM
This is something that you really appreciate with Khan though, he has the balls to face very tough opponents.
Agree!

He has a china chin and once Crawford hit that, it will easily break.
China chin ;D yeah with that glass jaw, his only option is to outbox Crawford, which is very difficult.
I was an Amir fan in his prime and I hate to admit that he might got badly hurt again.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Sanitough on April 04, 2019, 05:50:13 AM
Crawford as well, Khan is a good fighter but I like how Crawford fight, and I guess he is the favorites here.
The only fight I watched was when Maidana beating Khan in their match, and I say this guy is soft.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: alisafidel58 on April 04, 2019, 08:01:56 AM
I used to love Khan and I thought that he was going to be like Manny when it comes to speed and firepower that faded away easily. I will go for Crawford in this fight. It will only take 5-7 rounds before Khan will be knockout.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Jating on April 04, 2019, 08:20:15 AM
This is something that you really appreciate with Khan though, he has the balls to face very tough opponents.
Agree!

He has a china chin and once Crawford hit that, it will easily break.
China chin ;D yeah with that glass jaw, his only option is to outbox Crawford, which is very difficult.
I was an Amir fan in his prime and I hate to admit that he might got badly hurt again.

He can out box him in the first couple of rounds but when Crawford adjusted to his style, sooner or later he will be caught by that upper cut.

Yeah, he did had China chin, lol, and who ever touch that chin then it's lights out.  ;D


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on April 04, 2019, 08:29:27 AM
The odds are -1538 for Terence Crawford and +883 for Amir Khan. Odds are from Nitrogensports. That means if you place a $100 bet to Terence Crawford and he wins you get back $106.50 or just $6.50 profit. While if you place you $100 to Amir Khan, you will get back $983.00 or 883.00 profit. Now you know who is the early favorite.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Kemarit on April 04, 2019, 10:45:58 AM
The odds are -1538 for Terence Crawford and +883 for Amir Khan. Odds are from Nitrogensports. That means if you place a $100 bet to Terence Crawford and he wins you get back $106.50 or just $6.50 profit. While if you place you $100 to Amir Khan, you will get back $983.00 or 883.00 profit. Now you know who is the early favorite.

Obviously, Terrence Crawford will be the favorite here. For me, Amir Khan skills is going down in the last couple of years and that fight against Alvarez has done so much damaged in him. Thanks for sharing the early odds, but I will skipped this one. Will probably go on my favorite betting place, my local barber shop.  ;D.

I used to love Khan and I thought that he was going to be like Manny when it comes to speed and firepower that faded away easily. I will go for Crawford in this fight. It will only take 5-7 rounds before Khan will be knockout.

They used to be so close, specially when both are under Freddie Roach. But they went on separate ways. There were reports that Amir Khan is interested on fighting Manny Pacquiao, the plan didn't push through.

Crawford as well, Khan is a good fighter but I like how Crawford fight, and I guess he is the favorites here.
The only fight I watched was when Maidana beating Khan in their match, and I say this guy is soft.

I advise you to watch Khan vs Prescott. You will know how Khan was exposed as having a weak chin.  ;D. He was KO in under a minute, if I'm not mistaken. When he was still under Roach, they did try to his something to at least "strengthen" his chin, by giving him some neck exercise with weights, but that didn't help out.

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUW7gWi4vZ0)


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: bisdak40 on April 04, 2019, 11:32:24 AM
This is something that you really appreciate with Khan though, he has the balls to face very tough opponents. And for those who are not aware of, he was brutally knock out by Canelo Alvarez, yes the same Canelo who faced triple G.

He has a china chin and once Crawford hit that, it will easily break. I don't know that the odds are, but Crawford will be too much for Amir and he might end up being KO again.
This is suicide for Amir. He got the courage but i think he got no tools to dethroned Crawford. He is in here for the money again. Only if he land that money fight with Pacman, i think he is long gone from the boxing scene. That might be his biggest paycheck and this fight won't happen anymore.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: TravelMug on April 04, 2019, 02:00:39 PM
This is something that you really appreciate with Khan though, he has the balls to face very tough opponents. And for those who are not aware of, he was brutally knock out by Canelo Alvarez, yes the same Canelo who faced triple G.

He has a china chin and once Crawford hit that, it will easily break. I don't know that the odds are, but Crawford will be too much for Amir and he might end up being KO again.
This is suicide for Amir. He got the courage but i think he got no tools to dethroned Crawford. He is in here for the money again. Only if he land that money fight with Pacman, i think he is long gone from the boxing scene. That might be his biggest paycheck and this fight won't happen anymore.

I agree. Amir thinks he can still mess around, his best days are over, Crawford in on a different level, and Amir Khan is just a B-level fighter, and that weakness of his can't be overcome in training. He was born with China chin, simply as that.

He should fight Kell Brook instead, his local rival and make a lot of money and then retire. Brook is also ballsy, fought GGG, broken his orbital bone, fought Errol Spence and was KO in round 11 to take his IBF belt.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Kemarit on April 05, 2019, 03:17:09 PM
He should fight Kell Brook instead, his local rival and make a lot of money and then retire. Brook is also ballsy, fought GGG, broken his orbital bone, fought Errol Spence and was KO in round 11 to take his IBF belt.

This is Amir response when asked:

Quote
“This fight against Crawford might be a bit less money than the fight versus Brook, but I’m doing it for my legacy and the chance to become world champion again.

(https://www.givemesport.com/1465984-amir-khan-reveals-why-he-chose-to-fight-terence-crawford-over-kell-brook)

So he still wanted to be a champion that's why he chooses Crawford over Brook, and we all know that his chances are very slim. But, I do believed that these two bitter rivals will clash in an all-English match in Wembly stadium wherein the capacity is 90,000 I believed. I agree that we would take it when he is about to retire and take that final pay.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: YuginKadoya on April 05, 2019, 04:43:27 PM
I really like Amir Khan to win this and I surely am a fan of Amir Khan but looking at Crawford massive build and reach against Khan I really think that there is an advantage with Crawford in this fight but I can not say for sure because of Khan's punching speed might manage in the fight, But again the punching power of Crawford is a devastation for khan so he needs to be very careful with it, But I will still bet for Amir Khan. 


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Bitinity on April 05, 2019, 05:56:36 PM
The odds are -1538 for Terence Crawford and +883 for Amir Khan. Odds are from Nitrogensports. That means if you place a $100 bet to Terence Crawford and he wins you get back $106.50 or just $6.50 profit. While if you place you $100 to Amir Khan, you will get back $983.00 or 883.00 profit. Now you know who is the early favorite.

Obviously Crawford is the favorite with his perfect stats(34 WINs) but on the other side Amir Khan is great boxer as well although he is not like what he was some years ago.
Related to betting, spending small amount on Khan seems worth enough as we have high odds although the chance is small but anything may happen on the ring so I think I'll place few bucks on Khan.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: mich on April 05, 2019, 06:51:13 PM
I reckon the undefeated champ Crawford here gets the victory by way of stoppage.
Khan is a big named fighter in his native country and if Crawford looks impressive in winning he will get bigger fights like Pacquaio or Spence.
If Khan wins media might consider it the biggest upset in many years.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: tippytoes on April 05, 2019, 09:03:53 PM
The odds are -1538 for Terence Crawford and +883 for Amir Khan. Odds are from Nitrogensports. That means if you place a $100 bet to Terence Crawford and he wins you get back $106.50 or just $6.50 profit. While if you place you $100 to Amir Khan, you will get back $983.00 or 883.00 profit. Now you know who is the early favorite.

Obviously Crawford is the favorite with his perfect stats(34 WINs) but on the other side Amir Khan is great boxer as well although he is not like what he was some years ago.
Related to betting, spending small amount on Khan seems worth enough as we have high odds although the chance is small but anything may happen on the ring so I think I'll place few bucks on Khan.

I just hope we will see the real fight here and not just another Mayweather-Pacquiao showdown. But with Amir's determination to become the world champion, we might see a better fight here. Maybe, I will bet on Khan, good profit in case he showed his true power in the ring and showed what he's got.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Ranly123 on April 05, 2019, 09:58:42 PM
Terrence Crawford vs Amir Khan on April 20
Venue: Madison Square Garden (MSG)

Crawford will defend this WBO 147 lbs title against Khan. It's a good match up but Crawford has the tools to beat Amir though. Amir Khan is a great fighter, but I think he is no longer in his prime and Terrence is riding high and considered to be the pound for pound best fighter right now. So I will go on Crawford here, maybe 10 rounds or less.

https://i.ibb.co/PhNhKV7/crawford-khan.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Photo courtesy of https://www.boxingscene.com/photos-terence-crawford-amir-khan-face-face-london--135404

I don't think Khan is a great fighter, yes he is a good fighter but not great. I saw him fight but it's not that explosive as Crawford. In this fight I would go for Crawford for 7-9 rounds.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Zadicar on April 06, 2019, 02:49:39 AM
Do actually agree on these points given or written out on this article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2019/04/04/terence-crawford-vs-amir-khan-is-a-gross-mismatch-in-every-way-but-one/#23b9642a7d8e

Its mismatch on any angle yet the only edge that Khan have is its hands speed but it wouldnt be enough.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: btc_angela on April 06, 2019, 03:44:41 AM
Do actually agree on these points given or written out on this article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2019/04/04/terence-crawford-vs-amir-khan-is-a-gross-mismatch-in-every-way-but-one/#23b9642a7d8e

Its mismatch on any angle yet the only edge that Khan have is its hands speed but it wouldnt be enough.

Thanks for the link, I agree, Crawford is going to be a very difficult fight for Amir Khan. Amir is like good in the early round because he was fresh so that he can throw fast combinations. But for me, he doesn't have a strong mindset and don't know how to adjust because he thinks he can over power his opponent with his speed. But when he is caught, and because of his weak chin, he doesn't have that mentality anymore, like Victor Ortiz. So yes it could be a mismatch, and the betting public knows that. Just look at the odds.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: lemipawa on April 06, 2019, 05:45:54 AM
Related to betting, spending small amount on Khan seems worth enough as we have high odds although the chance is small but anything may happen on the ring so I think I'll place few bucks on Khan.
Sounds like a good idea. If I place a bet $10 to Amir Khan according to current odds now at +883 for Khan, payout will be $98.30
But looking at his boxing record an upset is very unlikely to happen. He last fought Samuel Vargas and won via UD last September 8, 2018. His last taste of a KO was last April 21, 2018 over Phil Lo Greco. Out of his last 6 winning fights, 5 of them are UD and 1 through TKO. If this fight will go through distance, I guess Crawford has the edge. 5 out of 6 of the last fights of Crawford we're TKO or KO.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 06, 2019, 06:29:14 AM
Related to betting, spending small amount on Khan seems worth enough as we have high odds although the chance is small but anything may happen on the ring so I think I'll place few bucks on Khan.
Sounds like a good idea. If I place a bet $10 to Amir Khan according to current odds now at +883 for Khan, payout will be $98.30
But looking at his boxing record an upset is very unlikely to happen. He last fought Samuel Vargas and won via UD last September 8, 2018. His last taste of a KO was last April 21, 2018 over Phil Lo Greco. Out of his last 6 winning fights, 5 of them are UD and 1 through TKO. If this fight will go through distance, I guess Crawford has the edge. 5 out of 6 of the last fights of Crawford we're TKO or KO.

If someone wanted to go for the underdogs, then Khan is a 'live' underdog here.

Just a small amounts wouldn't hurt for gamblers, so most probably that odds can chance though once the fight gets closer. But I will go with the sentiments here, Crawford is riding on a momentum and on his on peak as others have stress while Khan is on the downward, nothing against him, but they are not in the same level.

I reckon the undefeated champ Crawford here gets the victory by way of stoppage.
Khan is a big named fighter in his native country and if Crawford looks impressive in winning he will get bigger fights like Pacquaio or Spence.
If Khan wins media might consider it the biggest upset in many years.

If Crawford wins impressively, then Crawford vs Spence could happen. But it's going to be difficult to negotiate as both have different managers who hate's each other, Crawford - Bob Arum while Spence is under Al Haymon. It's gonna be like Pacquiao and Mayweather again, it took years before they can finally agreed to fight.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: sheenshane on April 06, 2019, 09:59:42 AM
If Crawford wins impressively, then Crawford vs Spence could happen. But it's going to be difficult to negotiate as both have different managers who hate's each other, Crawford - Bob Arum while Spence is under Al Haymon. It's gonna be like Pacquiao and Mayweather again, it took years before they can finally agreed to fight.
We won't know. Khan was there and kept being a fight that is unpredictable. Khan is like Pacquaio who is very humble and unpredictable. Khan is a really likable guy when he's not talking about brook or Mayweather and I like it so much. This would be Bud Crawford's biggest test to date. Win or lose, Amir will always be a champion for taking some of the biggest risks in the sport of boxing unlike majority of the fighters now in days. I disagree Khan has no Chin. Any boxer that gets hit flush on the chin will go down. Khans problem is he gets hit on the chin too much.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Baofeng on April 06, 2019, 01:21:47 PM
If Crawford wins impressively, then Crawford vs Spence could happen. But it's going to be difficult to negotiate as both have different managers who hate's each other, Crawford - Bob Arum while Spence is under Al Haymon. It's gonna be like Pacquiao and Mayweather again, it took years before they can finally agreed to fight.
We won't know. Khan was there and kept being a fight that is unpredictable. Khan is like Pacquaio who is very humble and unpredictable. Khan is a really likable guy when he's not talking about brook or Mayweather and I like it so much. This would be Bud Crawford's biggest test to date. Win or lose, Amir will always be a champion for taking some of the biggest risks in the sport of boxing unlike majority of the fighters now in days. I disagree Khan has no Chin. Any boxer that gets hit flush on the chin will go down. Khans problem is he gets hit on the chin too much.

He has been known to have a weak chin as compare to other boxers around. There are a lot of boxers who have been hit flush but never goes down easily, on the contrary they are called granite chin. And even if boxers have been hit straight flush, some of them can easily recover, but not Amir. So there is no question that Khan has a glass jaw, we have seen it broken multiple times already.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 07, 2019, 06:01:48 AM
If Crawford wins impressively, then Crawford vs Spence could happen. But it's going to be difficult to negotiate as both have different managers who hate's each other, Crawford - Bob Arum while Spence is under Al Haymon. It's gonna be like Pacquiao and Mayweather again, it took years before they can finally agreed to fight.
We won't know. Khan was there and kept being a fight that is unpredictable. Khan is like Pacquaio who is very humble and unpredictable. Khan is a really likable guy when he's not talking about brook or Mayweather and I like it so much. This would be Bud Crawford's biggest test to date. Win or lose, Amir will always be a champion for taking some of the biggest risks in the sport of boxing unlike majority of the fighters now in days. I disagree Khan has no Chin. Any boxer that gets hit flush on the chin will go down. Khans problem is he gets hit on the chin too much.

I don't know if you really follow boxing or just a Amir Khan fanatic. Watch the video below:

Why Amir Khan Is Called GLASS CHIN (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5TuX4QTAXw)

Khan is very different from Pacquiao. Manny has a good chin, not solid but good. I urge you to watch that video and tell us if he has a chin or not. I think one boxer who has been hit so much in his career, that is Arturo Gatti. And yet didn't go down as fast as when Amir Khan is hit.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Jating on April 07, 2019, 07:48:13 AM
If Crawford wins impressively, then Crawford vs Spence could happen. But it's going to be difficult to negotiate as both have different managers who hate's each other, Crawford - Bob Arum while Spence is under Al Haymon. It's gonna be like Pacquiao and Mayweather again, it took years before they can finally agreed to fight.
We won't know. Khan was there and kept being a fight that is unpredictable. Khan is like Pacquaio who is very humble and unpredictable. Khan is a really likable guy when he's not talking about brook or Mayweather and I like it so much. This would be Bud Crawford's biggest test to date. Win or lose, Amir will always be a champion for taking some of the biggest risks in the sport of boxing unlike majority of the fighters now in days. I disagree Khan has no Chin. Any boxer that gets hit flush on the chin will go down. Khans problem is he gets hit on the chin too much.

I don't know if you really follow boxing or just a Amir Khan fanatic. Watch the video below:

Why Amir Khan Is Called GLASS CHIN (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5TuX4QTAXw)

Khan is very different from Pacquiao. Manny has a good chin, not solid but good. I urge you to watch that video and tell us if he has a chin or not. I think one boxer who has been hit so much in his career, that is Arturo Gatti. And yet didn't go down as fast as when Amir Khan is hit.


In my first post here, I already said that Khan has a China chin because it's true and there is no doubt about it. Prescott, Danny Garcia, Marcos Maidana and Canelo Alvarez.

So there could be argument that because he is hit too much in his career. However, when he steps up to the US soil, competition gets hard that's why his chin was exposed.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: mu_enrico on April 07, 2019, 11:11:49 AM
This thread now become a discussion about Amir's chin :D
"China chin" or "glass jaw" is only a phrase to describe boxers who cannot get hit too much. It is in their genetics. That is why African and Mexican fighter dominates the sport.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: aioc on April 07, 2019, 01:40:34 PM
I have seen both of their past matches and Crawford has the edge, Khan can be knocked out anytime because he is so careless and has a weak chin, it's not about who will win but the round where Crawford will knock out Khan.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: peter0425 on April 07, 2019, 03:57:14 PM
This thread now become a discussion about Amir's chin :D
"China chin" or "glass jaw" is only a phrase to describe boxers who cannot get hit too much. It is in their genetics. That is why African and Mexican fighter dominates the sport.
Lol, not hard to not discuss Amir's chin though, because that's what his known to.  ;D. But if you could imagine if he has a good jaw + his talent (hand speed and power), I think he could be a great champion.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Malsetid on April 08, 2019, 07:26:06 AM
I have seen both of their past matches and Crawford has the edge, Khan can be knocked out anytime because he is so careless and has a weak chin, it's not about who will win but the round where Crawford will knock out Khan.

And i think khan has had his best days past him now. That's just for me, although he still is pretty young but he's probably not as good as crawford at this stage. Going to be a good fight though, i hope.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Kemarit on April 09, 2019, 01:49:12 AM
This thread now become a discussion about Amir's chin :D
"China chin" or "glass jaw" is only a phrase to describe boxers who cannot get hit too much. It is in their genetics. That is why African and Mexican fighter dominates the sport.
Lol, not hard to not discuss Amir's chin though, because that's what his known to.  ;D. But if you could imagine if he has a good jaw + his talent (hand speed and power), I think he could be a great champion.

Khan would be a elite boxer if not for the weakness he has. During his prime his hands are very fast, comparable to Manny Pacquaio. He also is a great body puncher, however, we can't really deny that having a weak chin could spell doom on a boxer. Antonio Margarito, who has a granite chin was able to stay afloat in the 147 - 160 lbs division and face lots of champion and won some because his chin held against those strong punchers and some of them gets tired, and Margarito was able to take that advantage and win.

If Khan has a granite chin? He could be in the top 3 in the discussions as best boxer in 147 during his prime.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Fredomago on April 09, 2019, 01:59:13 AM
This thread now become a discussion about Amir's chin :D
"China chin" or "glass jaw" is only a phrase to describe boxers who cannot get hit too much. It is in their genetics. That is why African and Mexican fighter dominates the sport.
Yeah right, it's getting more into Khan disadvantage, most of the replies are placing their sides for Crawford due to this possible weakness of Khan, seeing his highlights before still gives him some chances, we can't conclude as there's always surprises when the bell start to ring, it's good to see fair and square fight with KO ending.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Cacingkemi on April 09, 2019, 02:36:44 AM
Crawford is the world's best fighter,it looks like this fight isn't exciting I think it will be won by Crawford.Other wish if Khan will win the fight but it a difficult so my observation of this battle is between 75% for crawford and 25% for khan,Khan can't stand the crawford gaze.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: btc_angela on April 09, 2019, 04:00:49 AM
This thread now become a discussion about Amir's chin :D
"China chin" or "glass jaw" is only a phrase to describe boxers who cannot get hit too much. It is in their genetics. That is why African and Mexican fighter dominates the sport.
Yeah right, it's getting more into Khan disadvantage, most of the replies are placing their sides for Crawford due to this possible weakness of Khan, seeing his highlights before still gives him some chances, we can't conclude as there's always surprises when the bell start to ring, it's good to see fair and square fight with KO ending.

Definitely, Khan has a chance to win here no doubt. But his questionable chin is what makes the betting public go against him here. And the fact that Crawford is the best fighter right now, it's hard to put a bet in Khan unless you are really a big fan of his.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Baofeng on April 19, 2019, 06:36:44 AM
Here is the undercard:

  • Shakur Stevenson vs. Christopher Diaz, 10 rounds, featherweights
  • Teofimo Lopez vs. Edis Tatli, 10 rounds, lightweights
  • Felix Verdejo vs. Bryan Vasquez, 10 rounds, lightweights
  • Carlos Adames vs. Frank Galarza, 10 rounds, junior middleweights

There is a lot of hype around Teofimo Lopez. He's been bad mouthing Loma lately, so I'm sure a impressive win might set up a clash with Loma.

Stevenson has some controversy as well, as there was a recent video who surfaces about a street brawl in which the professional boxer is involved.

I wanted to se if Verdejo is back, there's a lot of hype around this kid, unfortunately after a motor accident in 2016 and defeat to Lopez 2018 the hype has died down. But let's see if he can go back and be the old "El Diamante".


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Sanitough on April 19, 2019, 07:11:02 AM
Khan loves to challenge big name in the boxing, IIRC he once challenge Pacman also.
This guy is not the greatest in boxing, but the has the heart and therefore he has a chance to beat Crawford.

I was browsing the betting odds currently in my sportsbook and crawford is a heavy favorite in this fight, trying to take Khan here with 8.60 odds, 1.06 is not worth the risk, this time I'm with the underdog.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Johnzky on April 19, 2019, 08:05:08 AM
If Crawford wins impressively, then Crawford vs Spence could happen. But it's going to be difficult to negotiate as both have different managers who hate's each other, Crawford - Bob Arum while Spence is under Al Haymon. It's gonna be like Pacquiao and Mayweather again, it took years before they can finally agreed to fight.
We won't know. Khan was there and kept being a fight that is unpredictable. Khan is like Pacquaio who is very humble and unpredictable. Khan is a really likable guy when he's not talking about brook or Mayweather and I like it so much. This would be Bud Crawford's biggest test to date. Win or lose, Amir will always be a champion for taking some of the biggest risks in the sport of boxing unlike majority of the fighters now in days. I disagree Khan has no Chin. Any boxer that gets hit flush on the chin will go down. Khans problem is he gets hit on the chin too much.

He has been known to have a weak chin as compare to other boxers around. There are a lot of boxers who have been hit flush but never goes down easily, on the contrary they are called granite chin. And even if boxers have been hit straight flush, some of them can easily recover, but not Amir. So there is no question that Khan has a glass jaw, we have seen it broken multiple times already.
Thats the baddest weakness a boxer must have,because chin is the easiest part of boxer to target and landed by punch so if he don’t manage to strengthen that part then for sure he’ll be knockout earlier the game


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: peter0425 on April 19, 2019, 09:01:10 AM
Khan loves to challenge big name in the boxing, IIRC he once challenge Pacman also.
This guy is not the greatest in boxing, but the has the heart and therefore he has a chance to beat Crawford.

I was browsing the betting odds currently in my sportsbook and crawford is a heavy favorite in this fight, trying to take Khan here with 8.60 odds, 1.06 is not worth the risk, this time I'm with the underdog.
Yes, we love underdog and even if others have written-off Khan, he has a good chance specially in early rounds. Tiger Woods pulls a somewhat last week, so it's really possible for someone to elevate their game and win matches specially in boxing.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: crzy on April 19, 2019, 09:29:33 AM
Crawford is the world's best fighter,it looks like this fight isn't exciting I think it will be won by Crawford.Other wish if Khan will win the fight but it a difficult so my observation of this battle is between 75% for crawford and 25% for khan,Khan can't stand the crawford gaze.
That's the biggest challenge for Khan and we should not undervalue Khan because he practice a lot for this fight.
Though we already know who has the advantage to win, we will just see who will execute their plan well tomorrow. It will be a big day for Crawford but Khan will not let this fight taken by Crawford easily. This is going to be a good match.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Questat on April 19, 2019, 11:07:22 AM
Khan loves to challenge big name in the boxing, IIRC he once challenge Pacman also.
This guy is not the greatest in boxing, but the has the heart and therefore he has a chance to beat Crawford.

I was browsing the betting odds currently in my sportsbook and crawford is a heavy favorite in this fight, trying to take Khan here with 8.60 odds, 1.06 is not worth the risk, this time I'm with the underdog.
Yes, we love underdog and even if others have written-off Khan, he has a good chance specially in early rounds. Tiger Woods pulls a somewhat last week, so it's really possible for someone to elevate their game and win matches specially in boxing.
They are both professionals and they both have a game plan, if Khan's game plan will work, it will reward the backer.
As a gambler, maybe I'd agree that the odds is really attractive but as a fan I believe Crawford is capable of beating Khan and will knock him out.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Kemarit on April 19, 2019, 01:23:26 PM
Here is the undercard:

  • Shakur Stevenson vs. Christopher Diaz, 10 rounds, featherweights
  • Teofimo Lopez vs. Edis Tatli, 10 rounds, lightweights
  • Felix Verdejo vs. Bryan Vasquez, 10 rounds, lightweights
  • Carlos Adames vs. Frank Galarza, 10 rounds, junior middleweights

There is a lot of hype around Teofimo Lopez. He's been bad mouthing Loma lately, so I'm sure a impressive win might set up a clash with Loma.

I do hope that Lopez will win. But I don't think that he can touch Loma or even have a fight with them. He really needs to prove himself first before getting big money fights.

Stevenson has some controversy as well, as there was a recent video who surfaces about a street brawl in which the professional boxer is involved.

Haven't heard about the video, but then again this is another young boxer at 21, I'm sure he will be mentally affected by the case, so let's see how he can overcome it and be able to win his fight.

I wanted to se if Verdejo is back, there's a lot of hype around this kid, unfortunately after a motor accident in 2016 and defeat to Lopez 2018 the hype has died down. But let's see if he can go back and be the old "El Diamante".

I would agree that there's alot of hype around this kid when he enters the boxing world. He once lost to Lomachenko in Olympics and settle for the bronze and after that he was touted to be the next Felix Trinidad however that first defeat of him really derail all plans on him. So yes, this could be interesting to watch as well.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: aioc on April 19, 2019, 02:17:56 PM
Crawford is the world's best fighter,it looks like this fight isn't exciting I think it will be won by Crawford.Other wish if Khan will win the fight but it a difficult so my observation of this battle is between 75% for crawford and 25% for khan,Khan can't stand the crawford gaze.
I ask my friend to have a friendly bet and I'm betting Crawford will beat Khan, but nobody wants to take the challenge and instead challenge me to a bet on what round Crawford will knock out Khan, honestly, it's hard to predict the round because Khan runs too much, if he will stand toe to toe from the first round then I'll bet Crawford will knock him out in round two.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Jating on April 19, 2019, 07:49:40 PM
Crawford is the world's best fighter,it looks like this fight isn't exciting I think it will be won by Crawford.Other wish if Khan will win the fight but it a difficult so my observation of this battle is between 75% for crawford and 25% for khan,Khan can't stand the crawford gaze.
I ask my friend to have a friendly bet and I'm betting Crawford will beat Khan, but nobody wants to take the challenge and instead challenge me to a bet on what round Crawford will knock out Khan, honestly, it's hard to predict the round because Khan runs too much, if he will stand toe to toe from the first round then I'll bet Crawford will knock him out in round two.

I don't know if you can call Khan a runner though, we usually runs when he is hit and have the tendency to go down because of his china chin.

Yes, I think he will go toe to toe in the early round because that is the only chance he can knock out Crawford because once the round progresses, Amir will have a hard time because we all know that he will get hit sooner or later.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: NavI_027 on April 20, 2019, 03:26:47 AM
Terrence Crawford vs Amir Khan on April 20
Venue: Madison Square Garden (MSG)
Oh boy! I didn't see this coming, better to mark my calendar now to watch this interesting fight.
Amir Khan is a great fighter, but I think he is no longer in his prime

I agree on the same thing, he once became my idol in the boxing industry but his fame vanish all of a sudden. Crawford is very deadly, there's no doubt about it — his perfect record and 74% KO percenatage explaines all. Let's see if Khan could handle this.

On the other hand, we can't still underestimate Khan because he is a great boxer as well. He is fast and agile (but Terrence got the same skills as well) so I think it will be an intense match. My vote? I'm still not sure. I'll give 60% for Crawford and 40% for Khan ;D.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Oasisman on April 20, 2019, 09:01:52 AM

Amir Khan is a great fighter, but I think he is no longer in his prime

I agree on the same thing, he once became my idol in the boxing industry but his fame vanish all of a sudden. Crawford is very deadly, there's no doubt about it — his perfect record and 74% KO percenatage explaines all. Let's see if Khan could handle this.

On the other hand, we can't still underestimate Khan because he is a great boxer as well. He is fast and agile (but Terrence got the same skills as well) so I think it will be an intense match. My vote? I'm still not sure. I'll give 60% for Crawford and 40% for Khan ;D.

I'll give this match to crawford. He's a knock out puncher, I mean we're not underestimating Khan here, but we all do have a pick. Khan being not on his prime isnt my primary issue, its just that crawford is a more dangerous fighter, just like what his records is telling us. 74% KO percentage isnt a joke.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: mu_enrico on April 21, 2019, 06:44:29 AM
No one mention about Khan's glass balls lmao.
I'm slightly disappointed with this fight (except for the first round). The building was good, but the match was not satisfying. By the way, congratulation bettors!


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Baofeng on April 21, 2019, 10:23:50 AM
And here are the results:

Crawford vs Khan- Crawford TKO in 6th
Stevenson vs. Diaz - Stevenson UD (100-90, 99-91, 98-92)
Lopez vs. Tatli - fifth-round TKO
Verdejo vs.  Vasquez - UD (97-93, 97-93, 98-92)

Uneventful fight. Khan chooses a way out after that incidental low blow. Too much for Khan having the balls to fight the best, Lol. He literally quit and doesn't want to continue and it's just a matter of time before he will be KO.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: DeathAngel on April 21, 2019, 10:52:11 AM
It was a low blow but Khan is a choke artist & he really should hang up his gloves now. I’m tired of his crap to be honest. Time for him to call it a day now I think.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Ranly123 on April 21, 2019, 10:54:45 AM
The match has already been decided and all I can say is, Khan has no match for Crawford even without the low blow. We can see the delifference in their stance and Crawford is just flicking his jabs and his footwork is incredible. The question is, are we going to see a Crawford/Pacquiao showdown?


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 21, 2019, 11:01:11 AM
The match has already been decided and all I can say is, Khan has no match for Crawford even without the low blow. We can see the delifference in their stance and Crawford is just flicking his jabs and his footwork is incredible. The question is, are we going to see a Crawford/Pacquiao showdown?

I don't think that Crawford/Pacquiao fight is looming. Pacquiao is already on Al Haymon's stable, so it's either Pacquiao/Thurman or Pacquaio/against the rest of Al's PBC 147 lbs fighter.

As expected, Khan was all talk and he just quit. Crawford is slowly pickup him up and Khan has no answer he try toe to toe but Crawford is too inteligent. His trainer stops the fight because he knows that Amir is no match. Or maybe they could get a technical draw or something, but Crawford is also ahead on the judges scorecard and it's already the sixth round so really no escape from Khan losing this fight.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: NavI_027 on April 21, 2019, 03:32:28 PM
I knew it, Crawford will win. But I noticed something, it seems that Crawford is the one who is in the defensive mode this time (just a counter puncher). Well, that's good in a sense that he knew Khan can dance with him so he decide to stay patient and just wait for the right opening.
It was a low blow but Khan is a choke artist & he really should hang up his gloves now. I’m tired of his crap to be honest. Time for him to call it a day now I think.
Probabbly he that opportunity and serve it as his last resort to escape ;D. It's a bad day for him, the wrong thing I observed is that he became aggressive too early which tend him to become careless and the consequence? Boom! 1st round knockdown.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Jating on April 21, 2019, 05:26:47 PM
I knew it, Crawford will win. But I noticed something, it seems that Crawford is the one who is in the defensive mode this time (just a counter puncher). Well, that's good in a sense that he knew Khan can dance with him so he decide to stay patient and just wait for the right opening.
It was a low blow but Khan is a choke artist & he really should hang up his gloves now. I’m tired of his crap to be honest. Time for him to call it a day now I think.
Probabbly he that opportunity and serve it as his last resort to escape ;D. It's a bad day for him, the wrong thing I observed is that he became aggressive too early which tend him to become careless and the consequence? Boom! 1st round knockdown.

That's how Crawford fights, he usually starts very defensively like Mayweather and he is trying to figure out his opponent. On the first round, we have seen how Khan's chin is. He try to recover in the second and third round, but Crawford chance stance and he was hitting Khan with his right.

I watched the reply again and again of the low blow and it was bonder line, imo. Khan said that he can't move. But it is obviously to me that he knew he can't beat Crawford. How ironic though, leading to the fight he says that he is no quitter.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Kemarit on April 22, 2019, 03:57:56 AM
Amir Khan time in the US soil as an attraction is gone with that lost. I don't think he can still secure major fights unless he is willing to be the next stepping stone of young prospects. Khan should just fight Kell Brook in the UK, but it looks like Brook is looking for a Crawford showdown now. I didn't see any improvement on Khan, he is still vulnerable to left hook as what Crawford did to him in first round. He is lucky that it didn't landed flush, otherwise it's a KO.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: bbc.reporter on April 22, 2019, 04:06:22 AM
No one mention about Khan's glass balls lmao.
I'm slightly disappointed with this fight (except for the first round). The building was good, but the match was not satisfying. By the way, congratulation bettors!

Terence was a very big favorite, I reckon. It would not have given anyone a satisfying payback for anyone who was not going to take a big risk that there is always a puncher's chance for Amir Khan.

However, agreed! Amir Khan is no chin and degenerated.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: smyslov on April 22, 2019, 05:36:46 AM
No one mention about Khan's glass balls lmao.
I'm slightly disappointed with this fight (except for the first round). The building was good, but the match was not satisfying. By the way, congratulation bettors!

Terence was a very big favorite, I reckon. It would not have given anyone a satisfying payback for anyone who was not going to take a big risk that there is always a puncher's chance for Amir Khan.

However, agreed! Amir Khan is no chin and degenerated.

I'm so disappointed on Khan, his weakness is so obvious in the first run and we already know what he is going to do and that is to run and hit, but this kind of strategy for a counter puncher boxer like Crawford, will not work it's pretty obvious that he cannot take Crawford's punch I expected a knock out but Khan, do not have the heart to continue.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: shiunsai on April 22, 2019, 06:51:59 AM
Crawford dominated the fight in terms of speed and defensive style. Khan is absolutely out shape as he used to be, I think it's time to hang up his gloves and retire. I want to watch what will happen once they continue the fight but Amir's side concede due to low blow.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: bisdak40 on April 22, 2019, 09:59:54 AM
Amir Khan time in the US soil as an attraction is gone with that lost. I don't think he can still secure major fights unless he is willing to be the next stepping stone of young prospects. Khan should just fight Kell Brook in the UK, but it looks like Brook is looking for a Crawford showdown now. I didn't see any improvement on Khan, he is still vulnerable to left hook as what Crawford did to him in first round. He is lucky that it didn't landed flush, otherwise it's a KO.
Amir Khan was never an attraction in the US i think. With that quitting, boxing promoter won't waste their time signing Khan. This might be the time to hang up his gloves.

The question is, are we going to see a Crawford/Pacquiao showdown?
I don't think that fight would happen. This time around, the Pacman is very choosy with his would be opponents. Crawford is a dangerous fight for Pacman this time of his career. Pacman would choose opponents that will make him look good for him to land that rematch with Floyd which i think his last fight.



Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Oasisman on April 22, 2019, 10:56:07 AM
Its obviously Khan just want the money, he doesn't stand a chance against a prime K.O puncher like Crawford. Khan is jus fast, thats it.


The question is, are we going to see a Crawford/Pacquiao showdown?
I don't think that fight would happen. This time around, the Pacman is very choosy with his would be opponents. Crawford is a dangerous fight for Pacman this time of his career. Pacman would choose opponents that will make him look good for him to land that rematch with Floyd which i think his last fight.



Agree!
Pacman is out of his prime as he aged. Crawford still at the peak of his career, and youre right about Crawford being a dangerous opponent against Pacman.
This match up wont happen, If Pacman accepts this match, I suspect it would be all business.
Besides, I guess they start building a hype to a Spence Jr. Vs Pacman match up. As I remember, Spence Jr. calls out Pacman after he won the match against Garcia.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: BlackMambaPH on April 22, 2019, 11:53:16 AM
Its obviously Khan just want the money, he doesn't stand a chance against a prime K.O puncher like Crawford. Khan is jus fast, thats it.


The question is, are we going to see a Crawford/Pacquiao showdown?
I don't think that fight would happen. This time around, the Pacman is very choosy with his would be opponents. Crawford is a dangerous fight for Pacman this time of his career. Pacman would choose opponents that will make him look good for him to land that rematch with Floyd which i think his last fight.



Agree!
Pacman is out of his prime as he aged. Crawford still at the peak of his career, and youre right about Crawford being a dangerous opponent against Pacman.
This match up wont happen, If Pacman accepts this match, I suspect it would be all business.
Besides, I guess they start building a hype to a Spence Jr. Vs Pacman match up. As I remember, Spence Jr. calls out Pacman after he won the match against Garcia.


In the post-interview, Terence Crawford mentions Errol Spence Jr instead of Pacquiao. Any reason why Terence Crawford wants to fight Errol Spence Jr instead of Manny Pacquiao in the welterweight division?

Manny Pacquiao v Errol Spence Jr 1st and after that, it will be a great matchup before Errol Spence Jr vs Terence Crawford and/or Terence Crawford vs Manny Pacquiao.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Oasisman on April 22, 2019, 12:51:51 PM

Agree!
Pacman is out of his prime as he aged. Crawford still at the peak of his career, and youre right about Crawford being a dangerous opponent against Pacman.
This match up wont happen, If Pacman accepts this match, I suspect it would be all business.
Besides, I guess they start building a hype to a Spence Jr. Vs Pacman match up. As I remember, Spence Jr. calls out Pacman after he won the match against Garcia.


In the post-interview, Terence Crawford mentions Errol Spence Jr instead of Pacquiao. Any reason why Terence Crawford wants to fight Errol Spence Jr instead of Manny Pacquiao in the welterweight division?


No Idea here. Maybe because they are both champions in the same division, and both are great fighters. This match up is a superfight in the making, no wonder why Bob Arum stands in the way for this fight to happen next.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: peter0425 on April 22, 2019, 01:20:20 PM
Its obviously Khan just want the money, he doesn't stand a chance against a prime K.O puncher like Crawford. Khan is jus fast, thats it.


The question is, are we going to see a Crawford/Pacquiao showdown?
I don't think that fight would happen. This time around, the Pacman is very choosy with his would be opponents. Crawford is a dangerous fight for Pacman this time of his career. Pacman would choose opponents that will make him look good for him to land that rematch with Floyd which i think his last fight.



Agree!
Pacman is out of his prime as he aged. Crawford still at the peak of his career, and youre right about Crawford being a dangerous opponent against Pacman.
This match up wont happen, If Pacman accepts this match, I suspect it would be all business.
Besides, I guess they start building a hype to a Spence Jr. Vs Pacman match up. As I remember, Spence Jr. calls out Pacman after he won the match against Garcia.


In the post-interview, Terence Crawford mentions Errol Spence Jr instead of Pacquiao. Any reason why Terence Crawford wants to fight Errol Spence Jr instead of Manny Pacquiao in the welterweight division?

Manny Pacquiao v Errol Spence Jr 1st and after that, it will be a great matchup before Errol Spence Jr vs Terence Crawford and/or Terence Crawford vs Manny Pacquiao.
I speculate that Crawford wanted to unify and make more money from fighting Spence Jr instead of money. Or maybe he thinks that he can't make a fight with Manny because Al Haymon wanted Manny to fight Keith Thurman. But I would love to see Crawford vs Spence, that is a superfight, imho.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: DeathAngel on April 22, 2019, 06:48:14 PM
Nowhere else for Khan to go now really, he really should just retire. He’s made more than enough money, how many career losses does he have now?

Too many!


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 22, 2019, 10:44:10 PM
I didn't watch the full video. I only watched the highlights and I see that Crawford is more of a defensive and Khan is more of a offensive. I have watched Khan's previous fights already and I think its time for him to retire already. No chance for him to redeem himself in the ring. On the other hand, Crawford is a strong counter puncher. I'm waiting for the Crawford-Spence fight :D.

how many career losses does he have now?
If I'm not mistaken, he got 5 losses already including his recent loss.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: robelneo on April 22, 2019, 11:12:18 PM
Khan says he didn't quit when he was hit below, but it's pretty obvious that he just wants a way out, he really is no match for Crawford his speed cannot match Crawford's aggressiveness, which is very surprising since Crawford has been known as a slow starter,

Check out their post-fight interview and fight out if he really quits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAjVPaYTRAA


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Dreamchaser21 on April 22, 2019, 11:31:10 PM
Nowhere else for Khan to go now really, he really should just retire. He’s made more than enough money, how many career losses does he have now?

Too many!
If he still making money, then he will not retire even if he lose more matches. Well, obviously Khan is not enough for Crawford and we might see another match like this with him. Crawford is simply better, a more deserving to win the fight and a bright future for him.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: coin-investor on April 23, 2019, 12:51:39 AM
Nowhere else for Khan to go now really, he really should just retire. He’s made more than enough money, how many career losses does he have now?

Too many!
If he still making money, then he will not retire even if he lose more matches. Well, obviously Khan is not enough for Crawford and we might see another match like this with him. Crawford is simply better, a more deserving to win the fight and a bright future for him.

It's not about making money anymore for him, he should retire it's obvious he can't take  a punch and he is putting himself in danger, he has done a lot on sports of boxing and I don't think he can make the main event fights anymore, somebody he trusts should advise Khan to stop boxing and check out other endeavors, there is still a life after boxing.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: mich on April 23, 2019, 01:10:59 AM
Well I didnt see this match ending up as it did and surely many people are not happy with the way Khan went out.
I thought it was going to be over when Khan was knocked down early on but he showed the pride of a champion.
This is not how someone quits in the sports as some outlets are reporting.
Khan wanted to continue but his coaches had seen enough.   Khan will return you can be assured of that!


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: peter0425 on April 23, 2019, 09:04:36 AM
Well I didnt see this match ending up as it did and surely many people are not happy with the way Khan went out.
I thought it was going to be over when Khan was knocked down early on but he showed the pride of a champion.
This is not how someone quits in the sports as some outlets are reporting.
Khan wanted to continue but his coaches had seen enough.   Khan will return you can be assured of that!
Post fight interview, Khan says that he will still be fighting. However, with his recent showings, his stock went down so I don't know, maybe he can go back fighting no names again to gain some confidence before he can fight another top level boxers. He is also not getting younger, so just few more fights before he retires.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Questat on April 23, 2019, 12:38:07 PM
Post fight interview, Khan says that he will still be fighting.
He will keep fighting because he still can, and that's money every fight. (win or loss)

However, with his recent showings, his stock went down so I don't know, maybe he can go back fighting no names again to gain some confidence before he can fight another top level boxers.

That's probably he needs do first, this guy is calling Manny IIRC and I'm sure he will regret if they ever fight, Manny maybe older
than Crawford but they have the same power.

He is also not getting younger, so just few more fights before he retires.

It's not about the age I guess, Manny is still fighting at his age now and choosing younger opponents.


Title: Re: Crawford vs Khan
Post by: Kemarit on April 23, 2019, 05:44:00 PM
Amir Khan time in the US soil as an attraction is gone with that lost. I don't think he can still secure major fights unless he is willing to be the next stepping stone of young prospects. Khan should just fight Kell Brook in the UK, but it looks like Brook is looking for a Crawford showdown now. I didn't see any improvement on Khan, he is still vulnerable to left hook as what Crawford did to him in first round. He is lucky that it didn't landed flush, otherwise it's a KO.
Amir Khan was never an attraction in the US i think. With that quitting, boxing promoter won't waste their time signing Khan. This might be the time to hang up his gloves.

I think he was once touted to be the next main attraction. He has lots of fight that generated good numbers, last one was with Canelo although we all know that Canelo is the A-side during that fight and it was really a mismatch. He can still get some decent fights I guess, but the paycheck might not be what he was expecting though as this lost really did a lot of damage on his boxing legacy.