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Hello everybody I'm happy to be here. I signed up for a reason and although I wanted to protect my Bitcoin friends from fraudsters since I have been playing with Bitcoin for years in casinos, I have the certain experience. A very good Bitcoin casino which is only recommendable Fortune Jack. What I can not recommend to you is Sportsbet.io and Bitcasino.io these are both scammer casinos that just rip you off with certain programs that just let you win in the beginning. Overall I've lost more than 30 BTC at Sportsbet.io and Bitcasino.io and perhaps won 1 BTC with sports betting. The casino is shelling the support too. The casino has no license and many of my friends had the same problems. I even think about taking legal action against this casino but I want to hear your opinion for now maybe we can file a class action ... I will still provide screenshots of evidence and would advise against playing there. Who can recommend a good casino?

go for it then , cause without the evidence nobody will ever take this seriously ( I doubt there is evidence in first place )
if you lose in certain site that doesn't mean it's  a scam , it just doesn't work that way

you are recommending fortunejack , they are good but not better than sportsbet IMO especially when it comes to sportsbetting
me and other guys are having terrible times with their bookie , we made many messages in their thread and fotunejack didn't even take time to explain what's going on

but anyway don't expect anyone to take you seriously without posting screenshots

You do need evidence to show the sites in question have not treated you as a customer fairly.
Because I have used sportsbet.io and have no issues when making any bets or withdrawals from the site.
Their support is active so you just contact them to resolve any issues you are having.
If there is a reason they are doing this to you maybe you crossed something within their terms of services agreement when you registered for an account on either of those sites.
I only have experience with the one you mentioned and not with bitcasino.io as I didnt know they even did sportsbetting before. But thanks for the forewarning but will not accuse them of any misuse because I have not experienced any gaming on their site yet.

I will provide the Screenshots I'm at work now when I'm home I will show you what's type of scam this is

In Bonus games with High roller bets 0.3 BTC just close the game and than the support say the game is not avaible now than make the game again online and you loose the bonus round with high bets of 100€

So you promote one casino, talk shit about two of its competitors... and of course provide zero proof. Looks credible, especially from a newbie account.

Saying sportsbet and bitcasino as scam without proofs then recommend fortunejack??
You lost 30btc on sports betting then say them as scam sites. Mind to share how they scam you through the sportsbetting?
Or you were just losing too much then start blaming the sites where you play?

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3492681-scammed-sportsbet-io.html

First article when I Google lol
Play high roller you will see what happening can anyone here show me a winning over 2000 Dollar?

No because they onl payout in the beginning after they got you you only loosee

Lets stick on your own accusation instead of looking at other accusations.
If you are so sure that you are getting scammed by sportsbet, then prove it. Saying it only is not enough, sufficient proofs is needed.
Otherwise, no one will care about this accusation as it is considered as baseless accusation.

Bitcasino scam (https://game-protect.com/bitcasino-scam/) + Sportsbet scam (https://game-protect.com/sportsbet-scam/)

So, what kind of proof do you have?  Care to share those screenshot evidence so that people can actually trust what you are saying? And stop advertising other casino when trying to make users aware of scammy sites. Doing this just makes you look bad and most people get a feeling that you are just trying to promote other casino while defaming all your competitors.
Sportsbe.io does seem to have a bad reputation over here. I have seen people complaining about them before.

Waiting for the proofs that he said he will post here. And maybe, we can say something what's going on. Solid evidence is better than just pure talk. People will just ignore you if we can't see anything tangible here.

The op did not provide the evidence in here yet. If the op is not scammed then the op is just very unlucky. If the op lose some btc and having account problems like temporary/permanent ban, it may be not scam and the op did not follow the sites rules or terms and condiotion, who knows. Anyway, let's just wait for the proof to be posted here.

Maybe this has something to do with things  -   ::)
https://imgur.com/a/SJ0mYHh

Nice one, but have you ever checked the following post?

It would be best to provide us more details about your accusation about the site, give us a screenshot to prove your allegation otherwise this will just be another hearsay or false accusation just to ruin the reputation of the gambling site.

Yeah, give us some proofs and open a scam accusations so that we will really know who is telling the truth and who are the scammer.

I'm not shilling for Sportsbet/Bitcasino as I'm not affiliated with them, but as least when you accused someone you really need to show some evidence and not just random attacks without any basis, just saying.

It seems that he has no solid proofs to support his accusation. It should not be hard and should not take too long time to provide the proofs if he is really sure that he is getting scammed. But lets see and wait...

Like syGambler said, if you're talking bad about a sportsbook and casino, please provide proof first so we don't wait around and wonder what went on. Secondly, also as he said, you're praising fortunejack, who is not only doing the same things now but have scammed in the past, according to trust history from reputable members.

Please stop making accusations without proof, because you hurt your own chances to get help from the forum.

Winning at first then losing after is a normal scenario in gambling I also experience it when I play on a casino for the first time. Also the other accusation you linked is different to yours since his account was being used by another person. If their intention is to scam they could've hacked every account.

Well he didn't mention his account getting blocked by the casino so that's out of the way.


You mean the free spins ? The free spins not continuing after re opening the game happened to me once because of a browser crash but this was years ago.

Hi SwissGambler,

Sorry to hear that you have had bad experience with us. We're always aiming to put the customer in the centre of the universe and unfortunately right now it looks like we've failed to do so with you and I'm here to see if we can still fix that. :)

I have no more information regarding your case what you've posted here so if you want to discuss about it in private, feel free to send me message. :)

Cheers,
Karl
Bitcasino.io

You are free to choose the gambling website, and if you lose much money, then it's the sign for you to stop the games for a while and you should take a rest and don't playing gambling.
I think many people have the same experience as you, they are losing much money too but they still playing.
But I don't know if sportsbet.io ad bitcasino.io was a scam website. Maybe you can visit their ANN and talk to them about your problem.

Gladly, the support system came on your thread, and I hope you can solve your problem. Make this as your lesson and don't make the same mistake in the future.

I guess "scam" is not really what this is about, scamming only happens when the casino literally takes your money and doesn't pay you the money they owe you. This is more like a person losing a certain amount and blaming the casinos for that, how could a casino scam you when they have provably fair games and house edges that will literally make sure casino never loses money anyway? What would be the reason for a casino to steal your money when you will literally just play there and lose your money there anyway?

If you come to my house and offer me your money, I will take it, I will not just say "no" than steal it from you. This is typically gambler who lost money on a house edge game where he was suppose to lose anyway and then claim he was scammed.

Are you still at work? When will you return home it's over 24hrs already you are at work?
The entire crypto nation is waiting for the evidence, do you have it or you don't have anything to show?

Please do provide some proof, because you still haven't attached any.

Let me make this clear, though. Sportsbet.io is by no means a safe company to deal with given their track record and reputation, and the fact that there are many, many previous incidents where they have proven to be extremely shady, especially with holding customer funds multiple times. That's the reason in the first place why they've got a tainted reputation on the forum.

But an accusation cannot be unbased, and solely based on anecdotal evidence. It's like someone saying that a casino is a scam solely because they've lost money at it.

Hi Swiss Gambler,

I've just stumbled across this so apologies for being late to the party.

Please inbox me, or list out here any problems you have on the sports side of things with your account and our practices and I can try to iron out any issues.

regards,

Steve,
sportsbet.io

I think there is some truth to the claims of the OP, specifically about Bitcasino.io

I ut 0.03 BTC into their casino after I had a 0.03 BTC deposit "disappeared" from my account under the guise that I had "bet the entire 0.03 on one busted hand shortly after it was credited to my account". I then put a 0.03 BTC "chaser" into Bitcasino.io, and after playing for a good 24 hours it became clear to me that there are several red flags in their system. One is that they don't provide you with a clear conversion calculator for the micro amount of Bitcoin, so that you know how much actual Bitcoin you are betting. Surely the argument could be made that it is the user's responsibility to know that, but if one is confused they could easily end up doing what I did and bet a significant amount of their deposit out of confusion. There are several additional elements of the site which are (to anyone with common sense) clearly designed to "guide" the player towards performing actions that are in the house's favor, and against the interest of the player. A few of these include, "tricky" betting denominations which are strategically placed on "unsuspecting pages" (the denominations are trickily switched) which confuse the player into betting in higher denominations than they likely want to (speaking for myself only - as this happened to me). Also, there are two buttons in blackjac which allow you to redo the same bet amount as your previous hand (the lower button), or DOUBLE your previous bet (the upper button). What they do is if you "push" a hand the "double" button SKIPS to the next higher level. In other words, they switch it UP even though you didn't win the previous hand, and the player ends up clicking the button THINKING that it is the same amount as it was in the previous hand, but the house has manipulated the amount of the button in a way which is difficult to detect if the player isn't paying close attention.

It eventually became clear to me that the algorithm being used by the house had evidence of such manipulation (in my opinion) that I literally stopped playing my remaining few thousand credits, based on the "ooportunity cost" of me sitting there playing a game which has indications of being significantly "rigged" (and not the "normal" level of "house advantage" type rigged).

I believe the OP is onto something in their claim here. I chased the 0.03 BTC which was blatantly misappropriated from me on BitcoinVideoCaino (be sure to check out all of the scathing reviews of that wannabee casino by doing a simple Google search for "BitcoinVideoCasino scam") with 0.03 BTC on Bitcasino.io, and it eventually became pretty clear to me that BOTH of these online casino sites are using fine-tuned manipulative pratices with their user interfaces which anyone with common sense can clearly see. I also believe that these "companies" have operatives monitoring these boards, whose main function is to "gatekeep" with manipulative information and misinformation which is intended to mitigate complaints against these operators. This makes perfect sense, no course, if you are the operators of these sites - that you would have people monitoring as many potential "problematic public information venues" as possible to deflect heat off of your questionable operations. This is not rocket science.

The good news for me personally is that I only sent these sites a combined total of 0.06, and I consider the experience a relatively small price to pay to be armed with experience-based information so that I don't fall for these "traps" into the future. I have seen a significant number of posts throughout the internet citing similar issues with these types of sites, and the posters of some of those comments lost a lot more than I did.

Live and learn, as the saying goes. But it IS helpful to file these formal complaints in a public venue so that this information can be available to people into the future, so that they can make an informed decision as to whether to send their funds to these companies. For BitcoinVideoCasino and Bitcasino.io I would personally advise AGAINST that, based on my experience using these sites.   

Thanks to the OP for sharing this.