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Title: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: The-One-Above-All on April 13, 2019, 07:53:08 PM
It is accepted here that DT's are permitted to give red trust to members who ask for a public examination of their past histories? On the basis of those histories then examine if they are suitable to be DT and examine if they are appropriate choices for projects to select to represent them?

So no member may ask questions regarding a DT members past ? or they will receive red trust? is this correct?

This does not seem to me to be a very suitable name for this system. This system would appear to facilitate hiding the truth?

DT is a system to punish whistle blowers? and reward scammers and liars?

I just want to understand how this works?

This is not a reputation topic. I wish this thread to remain in meta and receive my answer here.


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: Findingnemo on April 13, 2019, 07:58:41 PM
There is no perfect guide for giving negative feedback,when someone scammed others or involving in such activities will receive negative trust to save others from trading with them.But here something different I don't know the full story what you did to them so wait and what statement come from the people who gave you negative feedback and other members who are in DT network.


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on April 13, 2019, 08:01:03 PM
It is accepted here that DT's are permitted to give red trust to members who ask for a public examination of their past histories? On the basis of those histories then examine if they are suitable to be DT and examine if they are appropriate choices for projects to select to represent them?

So no member may ask questions regarding a DT members past ? or they will receive red trust? is this correct?

This is not a reputation topic. I wish this thread to remain in meta and receive my answer here.

You can leave positive, neutral or negative trust on whoever’s profile you’d like to. It won’t count towards their trust rating unless you are DT yourself though.

If you have legitimate concerns about a current DT Members actions/credentials then feel free to post details here. You won’t receive negative trust yourself for debating a DT Members level of trustworthiness.

Do you have anything worthwhile to add?


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: The-One-Above-All on April 13, 2019, 08:10:57 PM
It is accepted here that DT's are permitted to give red trust to members who ask for a public examination of their past histories? On the basis of those histories then examine if they are suitable to be DT and examine if they are appropriate choices for projects to select to represent them?

So no member may ask questions regarding a DT members past ? or they will receive red trust? is this correct?

This is not a reputation topic. I wish this thread to remain in meta and receive my answer here.

You can leave positive, neutral or negative trust on whoever’s profile you’d like to. It won’t count towards their trust rating unless you are DT yourself though.

If you have legitimate concerns about a current DT Members actions/credentials then feel free to post details here. You won’t receive negative trust yourself for debating a DT Members level of trustworthiness.

Do you have anything worthwhile to add?

"You won't receive negative trust for debating a DT members trustworthyness"??  thanks for making that clear.


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on April 13, 2019, 08:13:06 PM
It is accepted here that DT's are permitted to give red trust to members who ask for a public examination of their past histories? On the basis of those histories then examine if they are suitable to be DT and examine if they are appropriate choices for projects to select to represent them?

So no member may ask questions regarding a DT members past ? or they will receive red trust? is this correct?

This is not a reputation topic. I wish this thread to remain in meta and receive my answer here.

You can leave positive, neutral or negative trust on whoever’s profile you’d like to. It won’t count towards their trust rating unless you are DT yourself though.

If you have legitimate concerns about a current DT Members actions/credentials then feel free to post details here. You won’t receive negative trust yourself for debating a DT Members level of trustworthiness.

Do you have anything worthwhile to add?

"You won't receive negative trust for debating a DT members trustworthyness"??  thanks for making that clear.

If you do it in a non trolling, polite manner then no, you shouldn’t. I’ve just looked at your trust feedback & you really didn’t do yourself any favours with that thread you started about Hhampuz.


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 13, 2019, 08:14:10 PM
Do you have anything worthwhile to add?
No.  This member is a sockpuppet of one of the Meta/Reputation trolls--probably cryptohunter, Thule, or one of those.  They're trying to give the illusion that there are more people supporting their insane ideas than there really are. 

OP, you're not a newbie here.  You know all about the trust system, and your questions are therefore disingenuous.  You're attempting to fool people, which is dishonest and I hope everyone understands this.  I've already reported this thread as being a near duplicate of another one you created.  Please stop spamming Meta and Reputation with the same issues cryptohunter et al have brought up ad nauseum.  If you really were a new member, I'd suggest you do some reading before starting all these threads--but you're not.  You're a fucking liar.


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: poptok1 on April 13, 2019, 08:15:07 PM
I just want to understand how this works?
Kinda unbelievable  :o Basically for every single question that you have asked, the answer is no.
Of course accept the question quoted by me, that is in fact in it's incorrect form, so it's not a question... :)
Unintentionally humorous post is unintentionally humorous.  ;D
  


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: akamit on April 13, 2019, 08:22:52 PM
"You won't receive negative trust for debating a DT members trustworthyness"??  thanks for making that clear.
You noted wrong what LFC said, you can debate about DT members or about any other members and that's fine as long as your point is legitimate.

I checked the thread where you are trying to defame Hhampuz without any evidence.
Your debate will be considered valid when you will provide evidence, otherwise it's just a case where you are trying to harm someone's reputation.


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on April 13, 2019, 08:23:56 PM
"You won't receive negative trust for debating a DT members trustworthyness"??  thanks for making that clear.
You noted wrong what LFC said, you can debate about DT members or about any other members and that's fine as long as your point is legitimate.

I checked the thread where you are trying to defame Hhampuz without any evidence.
Your debate will be considered valid when you will provide evidence, otherwise it's just a case where you are trying to harm someone's reputation.

Couldn’t have explained it better myself, thanks.


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: TECSHARE on April 13, 2019, 08:27:33 PM
You won’t receive negative trust yourself for debating a DT Members level of trustworthiness.

https://i.imgur.com/U45SrR5.jpg


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: The-One-Above-All on April 13, 2019, 08:48:58 PM
"You won't receive negative trust for debating a DT members trustworthyness"??  thanks for making that clear.
You noted wrong what LFC said, you can debate about DT members or about any other members and that's fine as long as your point is legitimate.

I checked the thread where you are trying to defame Hhampuz without any evidence.
Your debate will be considered valid when you will provide evidence, otherwise it's just a case where you are trying to harm someone's reputation.

Asking a question and building an audience before revealing the evidence is defamation ?

What happens when the evidence is revealed and is observably true?  the red trust has to be removed?

One can not call for a public debate/investigation without receiving red trust?





Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: Flying Hellfish on April 13, 2019, 08:54:05 PM
"You won't receive negative trust for debating a DT members trustworthyness"??  thanks for making that clear.
You noted wrong what LFC said, you can debate about DT members or about any other members and that's fine as long as your point is legitimate.

I checked the thread where you are trying to defame Hhampuz without any evidence.
Your debate will be considered valid when you will provide evidence, otherwise it's just a case where you are trying to harm someone's reputation.

Asking a question and building an audience before revealing the evidence is defamation ?

What happens when the evidence is revealed and is observably true?  the red trust has to be removed?

One can not call for a public debate/investigation without receiving red trust?


EVIDENCE MOTHERFUCKER, USE IT OR FUCK OFF.  No one gives a fuck about completely unsubstantiated fantasy projections from a troll with sand in his vagina.


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: Quickseller on April 13, 2019, 09:28:39 PM
Quote from: LFC_bitcoin
you have legitimate concerns about a current DT Members actions/credentials then feel free to post details here. You won’t receive negative trust yourself for debating a DT Members level of trustworthiness
The OP is trying to do exactly that and is being mocked as a person asking illegitimate questions and has 3 ratings from DT for doing exactly as you describe (I am also pretty sure he has them before you wrote your comment).


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: The-One-Above-All on April 13, 2019, 09:35:14 PM
"You won't receive negative trust for debating a DT members trustworthyness"??  thanks for making that clear.
You noted wrong what LFC said, you can debate about DT members or about any other members and that's fine as long as your point is legitimate.

I checked the thread where you are trying to defame Hhampuz without any evidence.
Your debate will be considered valid when you will provide evidence, otherwise it's just a case where you are trying to harm someone's reputation.

Asking a question and building an audience before revealing the evidence is defamation ?

What happens when the evidence is revealed and is observably true?  the red trust has to be removed?

One can not call for a public debate/investigation without receiving red trust?


EVIDENCE MOTHERFUCKER, USE IT OR FUCK OFF.  No one gives a fuck about completely unsubstantiated fantasy projections from a troll with sand in his vagina.

This individual is a staff member? or not? can someone confirm? sounds like an alt of TMAN? perhaps Lauda? also Fortune Jack sig spammer?


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: Flying Hellfish on April 13, 2019, 09:39:36 PM
This individual is a staff member? or not? can someone confirm? sounds like an alt of TMAN? also Fortune Jack sig spammer?

You can read can't you?

Edit: Since this seems to be misunderstood a lot, I do not speak for the forum (when the forum wishes to say something theymos will let you know), I am also a user here and trolls are never treated with kid gloves by me!


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: The-One-Above-All on April 13, 2019, 09:58:48 PM
This individual is a staff member? or not? can someone confirm? sounds like an alt of TMAN? also Fortune Jack sig spammer?

You can read can't you?

Edit: Since this seems to be misunderstood a lot, I do not speak for the forum (when the forum wishes to say something theymos will let you know), I am also a user here and trolls are never treated with kid gloves by me!

Perhaps I can read, but find it implausible that a legitimate staff member would launch into  cursing and being  very crude and sexually insulting to a new member simply for asking for guidance on the trust system?

I would request that your account is investigated and your entire background for any possible alt connections with lauda and tman. I ask you to speak to me with respect and refrain from swearing at me in future.

You are free to answer the question I posed in the initial post, and contribute to my thread as a sensible reasonable human being.





Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: Vod on April 13, 2019, 10:03:25 PM
DT is a system to punish whistle blowers? and reward scammers and liars?

I just want to understand how this works?

Then spend some time here and learn, like every other person does.

Your questions have been answered multiple times.  Many people are lazy, so they get asked over and over.



Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: akamit on April 13, 2019, 10:05:08 PM
Asking a question and building an audience before revealing the evidence is defamation ?
Things do not work this way in this forum, you know that.
We don't have time to wait for the performer when he will be ready to perform. The performer must be ready before the show.
And yes, it's defamation until you provide evidence what you claim you have because Hhampuz is the 7th most trusted member of this forum according to BPIP (https://bpip.org/) and almost everyone trusts him.


What happens when the evidence is revealed and is observably true?  the red trust has to be removed?
If your evidence against Hhampuz is solid then I don't see any reason why the red trust should not be removed.
I don't think DT is so dumb on their judgments as you may thinking.


One can not call for a public debate/investigation without receiving red trust?
Echo "And yes, it's defamation until you provide evidence"

Investigation? I thought you have already investigated and have the concrete evidence against Hhampuz?



Suggestion #1: Use your main account so the community takes you seriously.
Suggestion #2: Lock this thread and use the first thread you have created against Hhampuz.


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: Flying Hellfish on April 13, 2019, 10:08:41 PM
Perhaps I can read, but find it implausible that a legitimate staff member would launch into  cursing and being  very crude and sexually insulting to a new member simply for asking for guidance on the trust system?

As implausible as you may find it, it is reality.  Re bold: you're a lying twat and not a new user, that is an alt account, this makes you a lying trolling twat IMO.

I would request that your account is investigated and your entire background for any possible alt connections with lauda and tman. I ask you to speak to me with respect and refrain from swearing at me in future.

Do whatever investigations you want, I would request you fuck off, get a life and stop being a lying trolling cunt.  Based on my knowledge of the forum and situation neither of us is likely to get exactly what we want.


You are free to answer the question I posed in the initial post, and contribute to my thread as a sensible reasonable human being.

Actually in reality I am free to do whatever the forum allows me to do, don't like too fucking bad.

You're not here asking honest to goodness questions, your a troll here with a fucking agenda 10 miles long...  You're not the victim here snowflake!


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: actmyname on April 13, 2019, 10:14:53 PM
Why is it that users constantly try to obfuscate their real question with indirect ones? Just be blunt about it and you will receive your answer.

I hate this constant passive-aggressive approach.


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: Vod on April 13, 2019, 10:15:56 PM
Why is it that users constantly try to obfuscate their real question with indirect ones? Just be blunt about it and you will receive your answer.

I hate this constant passive-aggressive approach.

That's wishing for a lot when these people don't even stand behind what they type...


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: The-One-Above-All on April 13, 2019, 11:19:15 PM
Perhaps I can read, but find it implausible that a legitimate staff member would launch into  cursing and being  very crude and sexually insulting to a new member simply for asking for guidance on the trust system?

As implausible as you may find it, it is reality.  Re bold: you're a lying twat and not a new user, that is an alt account, this makes you a lying trolling twat IMO.

I would request that your account is investigated and your entire background for any possible alt connections with lauda and tman. I ask you to speak to me with respect and refrain from swearing at me in future.

Do whatever investigations you want, I would request you fuck off, get a life and stop being a lying trolling cunt.  Based on my knowledge of the forum and situation neither of us is likely to get exactly what we want.


You are free to answer the question I posed in the initial post, and contribute to my thread as a sensible reasonable human being.

Actually in reality I am free to do whatever the forum allows me to do, don't like too fucking bad.

You're not here asking honest to goodness questions, your a troll here with a fucking agenda 10 miles long...  You're not the victim here snowflake!


You seem very upset about this matter? Is there some closer connection to this issue than simply sharing a similar posting style and the same sponsor as persons that may be about to be investigated in public?  Why so upset?

Fortune jack seems to attract the less savory characters it would seem.

Your false accusations and defamatory comments are just clear double standards.  I think you should realize that swearing renders  you insane according to your other alt tman.

I am asking questions, and have stated, that we will bring the evidence, you are making false accusations, verging on lies.

To pretend that you are unaware of the probable extortion, lies, and shady escrow dealings, well, we find that unbecoming of a member of staff. If that is what you are? If we can just make claims with no proof as to the ID of persons here then I will accuse you of being Tman or Lauda. I feel your behavior is inconsistent with that of a staff member and I find your actions cast a dark shadow over the staff of this board.

It seems unusual for a staff member of such a large community to feel they can scream sexual slurs, and crude language, at new members, for asking questions.



Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: Flying Hellfish on April 13, 2019, 11:28:52 PM
It seems unusual ...

BitcoinTalk is a very unusual place, it's so unusual it doesn't even ban alt agenda trolls like you!

I give zero fucks if my language offends you, it's not my responsibility to be nice to you.  If bad words offend you, the internet is gonna blow your mind...

And feel free to investigate whatever the fuck you want.  Calling me an alt of anyone makes you look even more retarded (if thats possible). Honestly I think you should go through my posts history and waste a few dozen hours!


Title: Re: Can I know the guidelines for giving members red trust?
Post by: The-One-Above-All on April 13, 2019, 11:56:18 PM
It seems unusual ...

BitcoinTalk is a very unusual place, it's so unusual it doesn't even ban alt agenda trolls like you!

I give zero fucks if my language offends you, it's not my responsibility to be nice to you.  If bad words offend you, the internet is gonna blow your mind...

And feel free to investigate whatever the fuck you want.  Calling me an alt of anyone makes you look even more retarded (if thats possible). Honestly I think you should go through my posts history and waste a few dozen hours!

You seem intent on dragging my thread off topic with insults and crude language. Please refrain from this or else I will report your posts, and  open an examination of what is permitted as on topic if they are not removed. You are not above the rules are you?  You have not contributed in a way I feel conducive to answering my question in the initial post at all.

It appears you are not suited to this type of position. I request you are removed at once . I feel you do the forum a disservice having staff in your account profile. I see no reason for such a great forum to be tainted by such a crude and disturbing person, obviously attached to other shady members. You are spoiling the good name of the fair and objective staff members here. Please do the forum a real service and delete your own account.

Please  stay on topic, and remain civil with one another. If people refuse to answer simple questions without becoming hostile, and cursing at new members, then we have to discuss how to change this. It  looks as several persons here at all levels, have plenty to hide, and fear public examination?  

-ve trust can not be used as a weapon to silence,discredit, defame whistle blowers, or those that wish to  open up a discussion or investigation. Honest members would welcome an investigation so that they may experience full vindication and go forward with pride.

Trying to brand honest members as puppets, or trolls, are smear tactics. They are usually employed by the guilty and untrustworthy.