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Title: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on April 22, 2019, 12:05:59 AM
CoinsGainer.com (https://coinsgainer.com)


CoinsGainer (https://coinsgainer.com) is a multiplayer bitcoin game of chance.

How to play:

Make a bet before the round starts and watch the multiplier grows in real time starting from x1.00. During the round you can cash out any time you want, starting from x1.01 by pressing the button "stop gain". Your payoff will be equal to bet times the current multiplier. The longer you stay in the game, the higher profit you will get. But, keep in mind, the gaining may stop at any moment. If you fail to cash out before or round result is exactly equal to x1.00, you will lose your bet.


Main Features:

  • Provably fair
    Simple provably fair system (described below).

  • Free faucet
    Get free faucet just after signup. Deposit is not required.

  • Automatic deposits
    Deposits are credited automatically after single network confirmation.

  • Instant withdrawals
    Anytime, any amount, even 1 satoshi.

  • 1 satoshi is min. bet
    Play any balance, have fun.

  • Flat 1% house edge
    One of the lowest house edge on the market.

  • Multiple windows bets
    Multiple tabs, windows, browsers or devices allowed simultaneously within single account.

  • One-click signup
    It's easy to get an account. Even email is an option.

  • Bankrollers welcomed
    The most attractive conditions on the market.

  • Mobile friendly
    Fully tested on a range of devices.


How provably fair works:

We have generated a secret string and get its sha256 lowercase hexadecimal hash. This hash is representing a game #25,000,000. The game #24,999,999 is represented with the sha256 lowercase hexadecimal hash from the previous game hash, and so on. In this way, all games are represented by hash chain, that excludes any intervention by it's nature.

The result of each game is calculated by simple algorithm below (Javascript, CryptoJS library (https://github.com/brix/crypto-js) required), that uses a salted game hash:
Code:
const CG_GAMES_SALT = ''; // lowercase hexadecimal hash representation of unmined bitcoin block #572,752 here
const CG_MSB_NUMBER = 52; // MSB number (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_numbering#Most_significant_bit)
const HEX_ENCODING = CryptoJS.enc.Hex;

// computation logic
const CG_GAME_RESULT = (gameHash) => {
    gameHash = CryptoJS.HmacSHA256(HEX_ENCODING.parse(gameHash), CG_GAMES_SALT)
        .toString(HEX_ENCODING)
        .slice(0, CG_MSB_NUMBER / 4);
    const hashResult = Math.floor(99 / (1 - parseInt(gameHash, 16) / Math.pow(2, CG_MSB_NUMBER)));
    return Math.max(hashResult / 100, 1);
};

The salt is a constant and equal to lowercase hexadecimal hash representation of unmined (at the moment of making this post) bitcoin block #572,752 (https://btc.com/block/572752). This way, such salt is a proof that the hash chain was NOT chosen deliberately with unfavorable game results for the players. First game hash is: 4790d1e1b91bd559cbd228e713fa85749443c0030b0036ae6b500e82d6490630


Games fair verification tools:
Verify Online (https://fair.coinsgainer.com/) / Verify Offline (https://fair.coinsgainer.com/download) / JsFiddle (https://jsfiddle.net/jarolee/34uwpn67/embedded/result/) / GitHub (https://github.com/jarolee/coinsgainer-fairness-verification/)


Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on April 22, 2019, 12:12:15 AM
Archive.fo (http://archive.fo/WQiMZ) - external archive as a proof of no cheating.
Quoting is welcomed. Thank you!

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: Ailmand on April 22, 2019, 12:25:27 AM
Seems like it's similar to bust-a-bit. Would like to see the game interface OP, however, ths site says the game to be launch on bitcoinblock #572,752. Can you just please show a teaser on how the game looks like.  :D

How much is the transaction fee for withdrawal?  Is there a minimum amount for bank rollers? Can't wait to try the game.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: joksim299 on April 22, 2019, 12:59:23 AM
Quote from: jarolee on April 22, 2019, 12:05:59 AM
CoinsGainer.com (https://coinsgainer.com)


CoinsGainer (https://coinsgainer.com) is a multiplayer bitcoin game of chance.

How to play:

Make a bet before the round starts and watch the multiplier grows in real time starting from x1.00. During the round you can cash out any time you want, starting from x1.01 by pressing the button "stop gain". Your payoff will be equal to bet times the current multiplier. The longer you stay in the game, the higher profit you will get. But, keep in mind, the gaining may stop at any moment. If you fail to cash out before or round result is exactly equal to x1.00, you will lose your bet.


Main Features:

  • Provably fair
    Simple provably fair system (described below).

  • Free faucet
    Get free faucet just after signup. Deposit is not required.

  • Automatic deposits
    Deposits are credited automatically after single network confirmation.

  • Instant withdrawals
    Anytime, any amount, even 1 satoshi.

  • 1 satoshi is min. bet
    Play any balance, have fun.

  • Flat 1% house edge
    One of the lowest house edge on the market.

  • Multiple windows bets
    Multiple tabs, windows, browsers or devices allowed simultaneously within single account.

  • One-click signup
    It's easy to get an account. Even email is an option.

  • Bankrollers welcomed
    The most attractive conditions on the market.

  • Mobile friendly
    Fully tested on a range of devices.


How provably fair works:

We have generated a secret string and get its sha256 lowercase hexadecimal hash. This hash is representing a game #25,000,000. The game #24,999,999 is represented with the sha256 lowercase hexadecimal hash from the previous game hash, and so on. In this way, all games are represented by hash chain, that excludes any intervention by it's nature.

The result of each game is calculated by simple algorithm below (Javascript, CryptoJS library (https://github.com/brix/crypto-js) required), that uses a salted game hash:
Code:
const CG_GAMES_SALT = ''; // lowercase hexadecimal hash representation of unmined bitcoin block #572,752 here
const CG_MSB_NUMBER = 52; // MSB number (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_numbering#Most_significant_bit)
const HEX_ENCODING = CryptoJS.enc.Hex;

// computation logic
const CG_GAME_RESULT = (gameHash) => {
    gameHash = CryptoJS.HmacSHA256(HEX_ENCODING.parse(gameHash), CG_GAMES_SALT)
        .toString(HEX_ENCODING)
        .slice(0, CG_MSB_NUMBER / 4);
    const hashResult = Math.floor(99 / (1 - parseInt(gameHash, 16) / Math.pow(2, CG_MSB_NUMBER)));
    return Math.max(hashResult / 100, 1);
};

The salt is a constant and equal to lowercase hexadecimal hash representation of unmined (at the moment of making this post) bitcoin block #572,752 (https://btc.com/block/572752). This way, such salt is a proof that the hash chain was NOT chosen deliberately with unfavorable game results for the players. First game hash is: 4790d1e1b91bd559cbd228e713fa85749443c0030b0036ae6b500e82d6490630


Games fair verification tools:
Verify Online (https://fair.coinsgainer.com/) / Verify Offline (https://fair.coinsgainer.com/download) / JsFiddle (https://jsfiddle.net/jarolee/34uwpn67/embedded/result/) / GitHub (https://github.com/jarolee/coinsgainer-fairness-verification/)



Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: Haunebu on April 22, 2019, 06:26:08 AM
The site is basically a blank screen with some text. Why did you bother launching it in this state op? It seems like it is still in beta mode.

No gambler would be interested in a website like this. Expected something better after the manner in which you advertised it. Disappointing.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: okala on April 22, 2019, 06:32:56 AM
I think the site is still under construction because it simply a blank website with no features and nothing at all, you should have left the advert of your gambling site until it fully operational. I suggest you bring down this thread until your site is ready for full operation or better still take the thread to gambling discussion section.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: Bitinity on April 22, 2019, 06:37:31 AM
Quote from: Haunebu on April 22, 2019, 06:26:08 AM
The site is basically a blank screen with some text. Why did you bother launching it in this state op? It seems like it is still in beta mode.

No gambler would be interested in a website like this. Expected something better after the manner in which you advertised it. Disappointing.

I think it is not in beta mode, but it is in pre-launch mode because it will be launched once the block mentioned is mined. It is usually called by provably fair seeding event.
Looking at the font on the page at the moment, I think it will be something interesting so I'll wait first instead of getting disappointed before knowing how the game looks like although from the explanation it will be just another crash game.
@OP did you get the license from bustabit script?

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: alisafidel58 on April 22, 2019, 07:06:09 AM
This is what you will get when you visit the site of Coinsgainers. At approximately what day will the block be mined? I'm not good with the bitcoin block.


Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: Bitinity on April 22, 2019, 07:52:51 AM
Quote from: alisafidel58 on April 22, 2019, 07:06:09 AM
This is what you will get when you visit the site of Coinsgainers. At approximately what day will the block be mined? I'm not good with the bitcoin block.

In average we have 1 block in every 10 minutes imo, now we are at block 572733 which means 19 blocks to go. Approximately the block for the seeding event (572752) will be mined in the next few hours.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: alisafidel58 on April 22, 2019, 08:43:03 AM
Quote from: Bitinity on April 22, 2019, 07:52:51 AM
Quote from: alisafidel58 on April 22, 2019, 07:06:09 AM
This is what you will get when you visit the site of Coinsgainers. At approximately what day will the block be mined? I'm not good with the bitcoin block.

In average we have 1 block in every 10 minutes imo, now we are at block 572733 which means 19 blocks to go. Approximately the block for the seeding event (572752) will be mined in the next few hours.

Thanks, I will be keeping an eye on this. This one made me curious for this is the first time that I saw a gambling site with such an event.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on April 22, 2019, 08:58:53 AM
Thank you all for the deep interest. Actually, I'm surprised!
I will try to give answers to all your questions above within next few minutes.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on April 22, 2019, 09:24:45 AM
  • How much is the transaction fee for withdrawal?
    Currently we have a fixed withdrawal fee of 0.0002 btc. May be lowered in the future.

  • Is there a minimum amount for bankrollers?
    Currently, there is no any limits.

  • It seems like it is still in beta mode.
    We are in pre-launch mode, as @Bitinity exactly mentioned. Just wait, please for the bitcoin block #572752.
    However, of course, we are planning to add a lot of more tasty features in the future.

  • It will be just another crash game.
    Fortunately, not just another. The game is developed from scratch.
    Nevertheless, @Bitinity absolutely right. This is a so-called "crash game".

  • At approximately what day will the block be mined?
    Approximately, bitcoin block #572752 will be mined today 22 Apr 2019 at ~11:30 AM UTC.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: panjul07 on April 22, 2019, 09:39:32 AM
Quote from: alisafidel58 on April 22, 2019, 08:43:03 AM
This one made me curious for this is the first time that I saw a gambling site with such an event.

It is not a new thing in this provably fair gambling system, there were many other sites used seeding event before. It seems that you are new to this gambling board so I suggest you to check it in this gambling board.
10 blocks left, it will be released within around one and a half hour. So lets see and wait for the official launch of the game.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: edisystem on April 22, 2019, 09:42:55 AM
Sorry but i'm still not understand how is this game works, when i visit the site it's only showing coinsgainer logo with "The game to be launch on Bitcoin block # 572,752".

Is it like these or what?

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: nauane on April 22, 2019, 10:55:56 AM
Quote from: okala on April 22, 2019, 06:32:56 AM
I think the site is still under construction because it simply a blank website with no features and nothing at all, you should have left the advert of your gambling site until it fully operational. I suggest you bring down this thread until your site is ready for full operation or better still take the thread to gambling discussion section.

The site is under construction but one thing which i do not understand is that it says that game/site will be launched on Bitcoin block No. 572,752. What does bitcoin block has to do with the game ? ???

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: Bitinity on April 22, 2019, 11:08:15 AM
Quote from: nauane on April 22, 2019, 10:55:56 AM
Quote from: okala on April 22, 2019, 06:32:56 AM
I think the site is still under construction because it simply a blank website with no features and nothing at all, you should have left the advert of your gambling site until it fully operational. I suggest you bring down this thread until your site is ready for full operation or better still take the thread to gambling discussion section.

The site is under construction but one thing which i do not understand is that it says that game/site will be launched on Bitcoin block No. 572,752. What does bitcoin block has to do with the game ? ???

Please read before asking, it is clear that they are doing provably fair seeding event before the launch. If you do not know what is this all about then please do a quick search in this forum and you will know what is seeding event and why the use of the chosen bitcoin block which is not mined yet.

Quote from: morrisgonzalez on April 22, 2019, 11:02:27 AM
I find the problem with cash out system maybe players face difficulties with cash out system. Some features are maybe difficult for the players I think, it will be more good if they want. Yes some features are also good and it's well designed site.

What the hell you are talking about? The site is not even working yet, how could you find a problem with the cash out system?

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on April 22, 2019, 12:56:44 PM
Bitcoin block # 572752 finally mined.
Thus we have a game salt 00000000000000000008f125261151e5a1812f3f34cf80f375943c687a9ba6b7 that is represented by bitcoin block's #572752 (https://btc.com/block/572752) lowercase hexadecimal hash.

CoinsGainer officially launched!

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: Chibongvdg on April 22, 2019, 02:39:16 PM
I think the website is not working. All I can see is a dark background and a square shapes keeps on flipping. Does anyone here got any luck accessing the site?

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: bering on April 22, 2019, 02:59:05 PM
Quote from: Chibongvdg on April 22, 2019, 02:39:16 PM
I think the website is not working. All I can see is a dark background and a square shapes keeps on flipping. Does anyone here got any luck accessing the site?
I can access the site properly and apparently the cause why you cannot access the site probably there is something wrong with your internet connections however i just hanging out to chat mode and seems there is no moderator at there because some of people questions were not answering

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: shield132 on April 22, 2019, 03:25:48 PM
If I were you, I would launch this website with great template because otherwise have no idea how to attract any player. Game you offer is absolutely same the famous bustabit has. There isn't any promotion or diffetent plan/strategy/offers like cashback amd etc to attract users, also it seems like website was started from own pocket money because bankroll is 5 bitcoin and as you state, users will automatically cashout if their winning exceeds to 1% of bankroll.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: Pamadar on April 22, 2019, 05:15:04 PM
Quote from: shield132 on April 22, 2019, 03:25:48 PM
If I were you, I would launch this website with great template because otherwise have no idea how to attract any player. Game you offer is absolutely same the famous bustabit has. There isn't any promotion or diffetent plan/strategy/offers like cashback amd etc to attract users, also it seems like website was started from own pocket money because bankroll is 5 bitcoin and as you state, users will automatically cashout if their winning exceeds to 1% of bankroll.
You are right, there's should be some attracting offers coming from the owner/s in order to create some interest to their Target players, competing with well established casinos are tough as they already have lots of participants, you need to do some unique offering to have then inside your site.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: r1a2y3m4 on April 22, 2019, 05:26:42 PM
Quote from: jarolee on April 22, 2019, 12:05:59 AM
  • Instant withdrawals
    Anytime, any amount, even 1 satoshi.
What do you mean by this? 1 Satoshi can be withdrawn on your platform? You know what this means right? No, fee for withdrawals? If this is true, then it is a good idea to play on your platform and the withdrawals and deposits are instant.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: panjul07 on April 22, 2019, 05:32:55 PM
Quote from: r1a2y3m4 on April 22, 2019, 05:26:42 PM
Quote from: jarolee on April 22, 2019, 12:05:59 AM
  • Instant withdrawals
    Anytime, any amount, even 1 satoshi.
What do you mean by this? 1 Satoshi can be withdrawn on your platform? You know what this means right? No, fee for withdrawals? If this is true, then it is a good idea to play on your platform and the withdrawals and deposits are instant.

If he says that user can withdraw even 1 satoshi then you can do it, but you need to pay 20k satoshi for the withdrawal fee so it does not make senses to withdraw any amount less than 20k satoshi. Deposit is not instant as you need to wait for 1 confirmation before you can use your deposit to play. For more details go the faq page https://coinsgainer.com/faq


Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on April 22, 2019, 07:56:39 PM
I really appreciate all of you who make an advice, who cares about CoinsGainer's fate. Thank you guys! I'm personally and my team will do our best to make a #1 crash game on the market. We are differ in some basic features compared to well-known competitors today and will differ much more in the future. Unfortunately, it's unreal to produce full-featured product instantly. But we are deeply convinced that CoinsGainer is going to become the best one, step by step. For example, our big following step is an online/offline auto betting. And it's just the one of those on a big way.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: TimeTeller on April 22, 2019, 11:25:07 PM
Quote from: panjul07 on April 22, 2019, 05:32:55 PM
Quote from: r1a2y3m4 on April 22, 2019, 05:26:42 PM
Quote from: jarolee on April 22, 2019, 12:05:59 AM
  • Instant withdrawals
    Anytime, any amount, even 1 satoshi.
What do you mean by this? 1 Satoshi can be withdrawn on your platform? You know what this means right? No, fee for withdrawals? If this is true, then it is a good idea to play on your platform and the withdrawals and deposits are instant.

If he says that user can withdraw even 1 satoshi then you can do it, but you need to pay 20k satoshi for the withdrawal fee so it does not make senses to withdraw any amount less than 20k satoshi. Deposit is not instant as you need to wait for 1 confirmation before you can use your deposit to play. For more details go the faq page https://coinsgainer.com/faq



Yes, that's the catch. You can withdraw even 1 sat but you still need to pay 20k sats.   ;D
If I may suggest, the site might want to use lightning network to avoid this 20k-sat fee.
Lightning network is now becoming popular to be used by several gambling sites especially with low-roller players.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: nauane on April 23, 2019, 06:38:12 AM
Quote from: panjul07 on April 22, 2019, 05:32:55 PM
Quote from: r1a2y3m4 on April 22, 2019, 05:26:42 PM
Quote from: jarolee on April 22, 2019, 12:05:59 AM
  • Instant withdrawals
    Anytime, any amount, even 1 satoshi.
What do you mean by this? 1 Satoshi can be withdrawn on your platform? You know what this means right? No, fee for withdrawals? If this is true, then it is a good idea to play on your platform and the withdrawals and deposits are instant.

If he says that user can withdraw even 1 satoshi then you can do it, but you need to pay 20k satoshi for the withdrawal fee so it does not make senses to withdraw any amount less than 20k satoshi. Deposit is not instant as you need to wait for 1 confirmation before you can use your deposit to play. For more details go the faq page https://coinsgainer.com/faq



Claiming to withdraw 1 Satoshi is for publicity purpose only to attract the people that there is no minimum withdraw limit. No one will be interested to withdraw such a small amount.  :)

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on April 23, 2019, 12:04:44 PM
Quote from: TimeTeller on April 22, 2019, 11:25:07 PM
If I may suggest, the site might want to use lightning network to avoid this 20k-sat fee.
Lightning network is now becoming popular to be used by several gambling sites especially with low-roller players.

That is a good idea, but LN still in beta.
Currently, this is a security matter.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on April 24, 2019, 10:46:36 AM
New feature added
From now, you may cancel your bet before round starts, even if there is less than 1 second left.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: steampunkz on April 24, 2019, 10:52:07 AM
Quote from: Ailmand on April 22, 2019, 12:25:27 AM
Seems like it's similar to bust-a-bit. Would like to see the game interface OP, however, ths site says the game to be launch on bitcoinblock #572,752. Can you just please show a teaser on how the game looks like.  :D

How much is the transaction fee for withdrawal?  Is there a minimum amount for bank rollers? Can't wait to try the game.

Yes indeed , from what i see this another version of crash game, 1 satoshi instant payout? How about the fees if its will be going to faucet hub wallet thats ok.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: okala on April 24, 2019, 11:00:30 AM
Quote from: jarolee on April 24, 2019, 10:46:36 AM
New feature added
From now, you may cancel your bet before round starts, even if there is less than 1 second left.
Great most gambling site's don't give users such option and most time users make mistake in placing they bet but will not fine to option where to cancel they bet even when they have enough time before the game start, have you consider adding sport bet to your list of games most especially football matches.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: bhabygrim on April 24, 2019, 12:32:41 PM
I think you need to do more to attract gamblers to play at your site.
We already have so many crash game what would be the benefits if we play on your site?
There are already trusted site that have crash game on them .

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: dark08 on April 24, 2019, 01:19:17 PM
Hey OP can I ask you why your site hard to load?
I cannot access the homepage of CoinsGainer is any one of your experiencing the difficulties of loading the site? I think you need to fix  this issue I change browser but same problem I have a stable internet.

https://i.imgur.com/pn31qn0.jpg

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on April 24, 2019, 01:58:48 PM
Quote from: dark08 on April 24, 2019, 01:19:17 PM
Hey OP can I ask you why your site hard to load?
I cannot access the homepage of CoinsGainer is any one of your experiencing the difficulties of loading the site? I think you need to fix  this issue I change browser but same problem I have a stable internet.

It seems you have an issue with loading js/css resources. Could you please, pm me your device/browser info to let me reproduce it?
I tried a moment ago to access website from the phone. It's fine enough.
https://i.imgur.com/5nSzXED.jpg

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: dark08 on April 24, 2019, 02:31:37 PM
Quote from: jarolee on April 24, 2019, 01:58:48 PM
Quote from: dark08 on April 24, 2019, 01:19:17 PM
Hey OP can I ask you why your site hard to load?
I cannot access the homepage of CoinsGainer is any one of your experiencing the difficulties of loading the site? I think you need to fix  this issue I change browser but same problem I have a stable internet.

It seems you have an issue with loading js/css resources. Could you please, pm me your device/browser info to let me reproduce it?
I tried a moment ago to access website from the phone. It's fine enough.

Thank you OP for the response  now I can access the site its simple and nice design Im curious to this site that why I attemp so many times to open the homepage now I'm fine with the result hehe.

https://i.imgur.com/46Ckd5d.jpg

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on April 24, 2019, 02:44:45 PM
Could you explain to us what exactly do you want to achieve with your website?You said the game is developed from scratch but it seems like all you did was fully copy bustabit website, only changing the colors a little and also adding a new animation to the game but everything else is copied. You are just a newbie here , you have created your account 3 days ago and you come here with a copied website saying you have launched a new crash game? I personally do not see any good reason why someone should choose your website instead of others since you don't offer any new features and your bankroll is way lower meaning players can no longer enjoy gambling for big wins because the main gain allowed on your website is only 0.0374 BTC per round.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: rdbase on April 24, 2019, 02:56:09 PM
^^ I think the low limit is based on their bankroll and the amount to be won will increase after each round played. Because 0.0374btc is quite low to even risk 0.002btc to play on a crash site.
I hope this is the case. Maybe coingainer administrator can answer this to the players.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on April 24, 2019, 03:43:11 PM
Quote from: bhabygrim on April 24, 2019, 12:32:41 PM
We already have so many crash game what would be the benefits if we play on your site?

Giving a straight answer, CG (https://coinsgainer.com) have a following differ features:

  • Free faucet
    Just after signup. Test it without deposit or wagering.
  • Free chat
    Deposit, wagering are not required.
  • 1 satoshi is min. bet
    Play any balance you want.
  • Multiple windows bets
    No need to register another account.
  • Mobile friendly
    Fully tested cross-browser/platform.
  • Online/offline auto-bets (nearest future)
    Does anyone implemented it? CG (https://coinsgainer.com) is on the way.
  • Unique referral program (later)
    Available to everyone.
  • More?
    We are always open to discuss new features together.

Quote from: MakeMoneyBtc on April 24, 2019, 02:44:45 PM
Could you explain to us what exactly do you want to achieve with your website?You said the game is developed from scratch but it seems like all you did was fully copy bustabit website, only changing the colors a little and also adding a new animation to the game but everything else is copied.

First of all, thanks for asking! This is really an important thing that needs clarifying.
The game is developed from scratch. It's right. I don't saying that the game is unique, but we using very own software. In this way, there are unlimited opportunities to improve the game, implement new unique features in the future.

It would be foolish to count on an instant high flow of players/bankrollers at the launch.
The one thing that I want you to keep in mind, CG (https://coinsgainer.com) is not just another one. We are here to bring a fresh gambling experience.



Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: Bitinity on April 24, 2019, 06:48:11 PM
Quote from: rdbase on April 24, 2019, 02:56:09 PM
^^ I think the low limit is based on their bankroll and the amount to be won will increase after each round played. Because 0.0374btc is quite low to even risk 0.002btc to play on a crash site.
I hope this is the case. Maybe coingainer administrator can answer this to the players.

The low max allowed profit per bet is obviously related to their bankroll. If they use the common formula for the max profit per bet which is 1% of the bankroll, it means that their bankroll is 3.74BTC
Not too low for a brand new site imho, it is even better than if they allow higher profit per bet while their bankroll is not big. Normally the bankroll will increase as the time goes by or maybe they will offer investment in the near future to build up bankroll.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on April 24, 2019, 07:06:34 PM
Quote from: Bitinity on April 24, 2019, 06:48:11 PM
Quote from: rdbase on April 24, 2019, 02:56:09 PM
^^ I think the low limit is based on their bankroll and the amount to be won will increase after each round played. Because 0.0374btc is quite low to even risk 0.002btc to play on a crash site.
I hope this is the case. Maybe coingainer administrator can answer this to the players.

The low max allowed profit per bet is obviously related to their bankroll. If they use the common formula for the max profit per bet which is 1% of the bankroll, it means that their bankroll is 3.74BTC
Not too low for a brand new site imho, it is even better than if they allow higher profit per bet while their bankroll is not big. Normally the bankroll will increase as the time goes by or maybe they will offer investment in the near future to build up bankroll.
Their bankroll is actually around 5BTC and you can see that if you click on statistics. Maximum profit per bet is 0.75% from bankroll for every player, and 1% in total for all players participating in that round. So if you calculate 0.75% from 5BTC is around 0.0374BTC.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: kurian on April 24, 2019, 07:12:05 PM
There is nothing new in this casino. There are tonnes of casinos offering almost the same game. I think better start building the community at the earliest. What are your plans to stand out from them? Is there any promotional events soon?

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: Bitinity on April 24, 2019, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: MakeMoneyBtc on April 24, 2019, 07:06:34 PM
Quote from: Bitinity on April 24, 2019, 06:48:11 PM
Quote from: rdbase on April 24, 2019, 02:56:09 PM
^^ I think the low limit is based on their bankroll and the amount to be won will increase after each round played. Because 0.0374btc is quite low to even risk 0.002btc to play on a crash site.
I hope this is the case. Maybe coingainer administrator can answer this to the players.

The low max allowed profit per bet is obviously related to their bankroll. If they use the common formula for the max profit per bet which is 1% of the bankroll, it means that their bankroll is 3.74BTC
Not too low for a brand new site imho, it is even better than if they allow higher profit per bet while their bankroll is not big. Normally the bankroll will increase as the time goes by or maybe they will offer investment in the near future to build up bankroll.
Their bankroll is actually around 5BTC and you can see that if you click on statistics. Maximum profit per bet is 0.75% from bankroll for every player, and 1% in total for all players participating in that round. So if you calculate 0.75% from 5BTC is around 0.0374BTC.

Thanks for pointing it out for me, I havent checked the site again so I do not know the exact amount of the bankroll. So they use lower % than common used % of the bankroll for the max profit. It is good decision, it means that they are aware with their bankroll health.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: wuvdoll on April 24, 2019, 08:37:27 PM
I think you guys should change your graphic instantly, even that bustabit type of graphic that keeps on going up is better because it at least shows how high it is going.

Yours is like at half when its x2.5 and than its only slightly more when its x5 so its graphically not correct at all and what are you going to do if it ever reaches like x100 one day? That is why I think that graphic is not helping you out at all and looks very amateur and not ready at all, you should switch that to something else right away, the problem is not the x2.5 or something because if you make that x5 or not that doesn't matter since this technically has no end going up so there can never be half of something that is endless. I think the style of the graphic should completely change to something else.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 24, 2019, 09:01:19 PM
http://i63.tinypic.com/245iuio.png
Stuck with this loading page.Using up Chrome and having 8mbps internet connection.Why?

Trying to check out on whats new with this bustabit similar gambling site again.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: carlfebz2 on April 24, 2019, 09:10:54 PM
Seems like you havent purchase licensed https://www.bustabit.com/license.txt.  We have seen rockets themes and now we are seeing some speedometer like.Sites design is average and also this new site has nothing
to offer something new.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on April 25, 2019, 08:58:50 AM
Quote from: wuvdoll on April 24, 2019, 08:37:27 PM
I think you guys should change your graphic instantly, even that bustabit type of graphic that keeps on going up is better because it at least shows how high it is going.

Yours is like at half when its x2.5 and than its only slightly more when its x5 so its graphically not correct at all and what are you going to do if it ever reaches like x100 one day? That is why I think that graphic is not helping you out at all and looks very amateur and not ready at all, you should switch that to something else right away, the problem is not the x2.5 or something because if you make that x5 or not that doesn't matter since this technically has no end going up so there can never be half of something that is endless. I think the style of the graphic should completely change to something else.

Just try please to spend a little bit more time staying on the website, to realize how round graphics works.
Btw, there was ~x19K at the day of a launch. Round stats link (https://coinsgainer.com/game/1154)

Quote from: stomachgrowls on April 24, 2019, 09:01:19 PM
Stuck with this loading page.Using up Chrome and having 8mbps internet connection.Why?

Maybe you have an unstable internet connection. Just try to reload the page. Thank you!

Quote from: carlfebz2 on April 24, 2019, 09:10:54 PM
Seems like you havent purchase licensed https://www.bustabit.com/license.txt.  We have seen rockets themes and now we are seeing some speedometer like.Sites design is average and also this new site has nothing
to offer something new.

Please, read the previous posts carefully, you will find that we DO NOT use their software/name.
Thus, CG (https://coinsgainer.com) is not a subject to licensing.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on April 30, 2019, 07:20:11 PM
Minor UI bug was fixed, cross browser compatibility has been improved.
Thanks to @dark08.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: xvids on May 04, 2019, 06:06:44 PM
Crash Game is becoming more and more popular to the gambling industry .
And there are so many CG that is operating right now could you give us more reason why we should choose your site?
Not to be rude but we already have trusted CG website like BaB (https://Bustabit.com),ethercrash (https://ethercrash.io) and stake (https://stake.com) also have a CG on their website.
I think you need something that would attract us .

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: okala on May 04, 2019, 06:16:40 PM
Quote from: xvids on May 04, 2019, 06:06:44 PM
Crash Game is becoming more and more popular to the gambling industry .
And there are so many CG that is operating right now could you give us more reason why we should choose your site?
Not to be rude but we already have trusted CG website like BaB (https://Bustabit.com),ethercrash (https://ethercrash.io) and stake (https://stake.com) also have a CG on their website.
I think you need something that would attract us .
Yes there is need for motivations when you are competing in a lucrative market such as gambling the only thing that will attract users to your site is you special offer which others don't offer. But your 1 santoshi minimal deposits is recommendable.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: Coin-Desk on May 05, 2019, 10:54:53 AM
CoinsGainer.com is a popular Bitcoin Games site where multiple player games can be played. It is really interesting that multiple players can play games and earn bitcoin simultaneously. This is probably the safest Bitcoin site and best to give you the best experience. There are also multiple windows bets, Automatic deposits, Instant withdrawals, Mobile friendly etc. Considering all aspects, I think that CoinsGainer.com is really good bitcoin games site.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: kryptqnick on May 05, 2019, 03:05:08 PM
I tried playing on the website. First of all, this intro page with fast moving numbers was very distracting. The website's layout when you register seems fine, though.
It's nice that the script is original, and I like this device-like style of the number going up. However, I think the website misses a few important elements. For instance, where is the ToS page? A person should be able to read about the rules and restrictions to know what to expect. Even the house edge is something I could only find on bitcointalk, not on the website itself. And what about KYC, restricted countries and stuff like that? It's better to know in advance to avoid unpleasant events.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: veleten on May 05, 2019, 03:18:24 PM
Quote from: jarolee on April 22, 2019, 07:56:39 PM
I really appreciate all of you who make an advice, who cares about CoinsGainer's fate. Thank you guys! I'm personally and my team will do our best to make a #1 crash game on the market. We are differ in some basic features compared to well-known competitors today and will differ much more in the future. Unfortunately, it's unreal to produce full-featured product instantly. But we are deeply convinced that CoinsGainer is going to become the best one, step by step. For example, our big following step is an online/offline auto betting. And it's just the one of those on a big way.

you have got a long way to go to become #1 crash game on the market
you did a good job so far , for a new site , it is working fine and I have no lags
the mobile version is fast and looks good , but you have to be working on getting some players since all I see is 4-5 people playing on site currently:

https://i.imgur.com/zunSCHb.png

it will be hard to nearly impossible to compete with the likes of bustabit, for example, if you have no community built
and the number of players chatting doesn't look too encouraging ....

https://i.imgur.com/cdoj8eZ.png

to sum it up: invest in promoting the site , try to build some community around the game
number one or not , but occupying a certain niche on the market should be fine , but for this you got to offer something others do not
or do better everything that others do , good luck!

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: feryjhie on May 05, 2019, 03:32:51 PM
Quote from: veleten on May 05, 2019, 03:18:24 PM
it will be hard to nearly impossible to compete with the likes of bustabit, for example, if you have no community built
and the number of players chatting doesn't look too encouraging ....

https://i.imgur.com/cdoj8eZ.png


the dev should add a chatroom for players to chat with each other in their language, so an example like the picture above the dev should add Global and Russian Chat room

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: okala on May 05, 2019, 04:54:40 PM
Quote from: feryjhie on May 05, 2019, 03:32:51 PM
Quote from: veleten on May 05, 2019, 03:18:24 PM
it will be hard to nearly impossible to compete with the likes of bustabit, for example, if you have no community built
and the number of players chatting doesn't look too encouraging ....

https://i.imgur.com/cdoj8eZ.png


the dev should add a chatroom for players to chat with each other in their language, so an example like the picture above the dev should add Global and Russian Chat room
I think the same too they team should make a chat room on the site for user to be able to communicate with each other. Casinogainer is big enough to have such feature in they site or better still they have a forum main for the discussion.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: veleten on May 05, 2019, 07:31:10 PM
I think it is not very reasonable to add different rooms at this stage
as you can see on the screenshots above , the timestamps of the messages are 6 hours in between
this means that there are no players chatting and very few betting
they should focus on buying ads and getting traffic to their site and host some games and promotions
a free faucet is fine, but it is not enough to entice players nowadays , they are too spoiled for choice

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: carlfebz2 on May 05, 2019, 08:02:16 PM
Quote from: veleten on May 05, 2019, 07:31:10 PM
I think it is not very reasonable to add different rooms at this stage
as you can see on the screenshots above , the timestamps of the messages are 6 hours in between
this means that there are no players chatting and very few betting
they should focus on buying ads and getting traffic to their site and host some games and promotions
a free faucet is fine, but it is not enough to entice players nowadays , they are to spoiled for choice
Few players is just a normal thing on a new gambling site and yes, having that kind of marketing would really be needed on these early days to get some players but crash like games are already saturated and people would tend out to choose on whats the best or simply the original ones thats why it would really be challenge for these new sites to gain of some players and lets see on how long they would able to last operating.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: tippytoes on May 05, 2019, 10:43:37 PM
Quote from: carlfebz2 on May 05, 2019, 08:02:16 PM
Quote from: veleten on May 05, 2019, 07:31:10 PM
I think it is not very reasonable to add different rooms at this stage
as you can see on the screenshots above , the timestamps of the messages are 6 hours in between
this means that there are no players chatting and very few betting
they should focus on buying ads and getting traffic to their site and host some games and promotions
a free faucet is fine, but it is not enough to entice players nowadays , they are to spoiled for choice
Few players is just a normal thing on a new gambling site and yes, having that kind of marketing would really be needed on these early days to get some players but crash like games are already saturated and people would tend out to choose on whats the best or simply the original ones thats why it would really be challenge for these new sites to gain of some players and lets see on how long they would able to last operating.

One thing that they can do though, is to promote their site via signature campaign or any promotional campaign that will entice users to check on them. And pay their participants via their website, at least getting some users onboard and increase the activity of their site. And from that, good reviews might arise attracting more users. But if they will not do anything, they will just be ignored and gamers will look for a rather interesting site.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: uneng on May 06, 2019, 12:57:22 AM
Can't we play without signing up? It would be interesting to let players play this way, with few satoshis (from faucet) to test or through a demo mode. Some people won't sign up until they test the game and like it.
The site layout is very simple and soft, but I see many doubts about the game on the chatbox... As I said, a practical playthrough without sign up would be advantageous for both sides, the house and the players.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: panjul07 on May 06, 2019, 09:35:51 AM
Quote from: uneng on May 06, 2019, 12:57:22 AM
Can't we play without signing up? It would be interesting to let players play this way, with few satoshis (from faucet) to test or through a demo mode. Some people won't sign up until they test the game and like it.
The site layout is very simple and soft, but I see many doubts about the game on the chatbox... As I said, a practical playthrough without sign up would be advantageous for both sides, the house and the players.

No you cant, you need to have an account to try the game. Actually there is no need to try or to test the game as it is one of the most popular games in this bitcoin gambling world. If you have tried other similar game before such as butabit then it should not be something new that you need to test it first. Especially if you want to claim the faucet then it is absolutely needed to have an account as they are not on chain based game.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: nakamura12 on May 06, 2019, 01:37:39 PM
Quote from: panjul07 on May 06, 2019, 09:35:51 AM
No you cant, you need to have an account to try the game. Actually there is no need to try or to test the game as it is one of the most popular games in this bitcoin gambling world. If you have tried other similar game before such as butabit then it should not be something new that you need to test it first. Especially if you want to claim the faucet then it is absolutely needed to have an account as they are not on chain based game.

Since we need an account to play then my question is, is there a demo of their game to test each game in their site whether if it is provably fair or something that a gambler is looking for?. Some of the gambling site having a demo of their game to test their game and would know if it is provably fair as stated by the site and gain the trust of the gamblers.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 07, 2019, 03:25:19 AM
Quote from: panjul07 on May 06, 2019, 09:35:51 AM
Quote from: uneng on May 06, 2019, 12:57:22 AM
Can't we play without signing up? It would be interesting to let players play this way, with few satoshis (from faucet) to test or through a demo mode. Some people won't sign up until they test the game and like it.
The site layout is very simple and soft, but I see many doubts about the game on the chatbox... As I said, a practical playthrough without sign up would be advantageous for both sides, the house and the players.

No you cant, you need to have an account to try the game. Actually there is no need to try or to test the game as it is one of the most popular games in this bitcoin gambling world. If you have tried other similar game before such as butabit then it should not be something new that you need to test it first. Especially if you want to claim the faucet then it is absolutely needed to have an account as they are not on chain based game.


If it is with Provably Fair I trust in it, I created my account, and the environment has been friendly, I have not been able to prove it well since for now I have a slow connection from my PC, could you tell me if you have separate bonus plans, championships in real time or if you have planned some LiveStream to get to know the community, since it seems super important to be able to interact with people, and what future plans they want to implement.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: Idrisu on May 07, 2019, 06:33:24 AM
Quote from: jarolee on April 22, 2019, 12:05:59 AM
CoinsGainer.com (https://coinsgainer.com)


CoinsGainer (https://coinsgainer.com) is a multiplayer bitcoin game of chance.

How to play:

Make a bet before the round starts and watch the multiplier grows in real time starting from x1.00. During the round you can cash out any time you want, starting from x1.01 by pressing the button "stop gain". Your payoff will be equal to bet times the current multiplier. The longer you stay in the game, the higher profit you will get. But, keep in mind, the gaining may stop at any moment. If you fail to cash out before or round result is exactly equal to x1.00, you will lose your bet.


Main Features:

  • Provably fair
    Simple provably fair system (described below).

  • Free faucet
    Get free faucet just after signup. Deposit is not required.

  • Automatic deposits
    Deposits are credited automatically after single network confirmation.

  • Instant withdrawals
    Anytime, any amount, even 1 satoshi.

  • 1 satoshi is min. bet
    Play any balance, have fun.

  • Flat 1% house edge
    One of the lowest house edge on the market.

  • Multiple windows bets
    Multiple tabs, windows, browsers or devices allowed simultaneously within single account.

  • One-click signup
    It's easy to get an account. Even email is an option.

  • Bankrollers welcomed
    The most attractive conditions on the market.

  • Mobile friendly
    Fully tested on a range of devices.


How provably fair works:

We have generated a secret string and get its sha256 lowercase hexadecimal hash. This hash is representing a game #25,000,000. The game #24,999,999 is represented with the sha256 lowercase hexadecimal hash from the previous game hash, and so on. In this way, all games are represented by hash chain, that excludes any intervention by it's nature.

The result of each game is calculated by simple algorithm below (Javascript, CryptoJS library (https://github.com/brix/crypto-js) required), that uses a salted game hash:
Code:
const CG_GAMES_SALT = ''; // lowercase hexadecimal hash representation of unmined bitcoin block #572,752 here
const CG_MSB_NUMBER = 52; // MSB number (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_numbering#Most_significant_bit)
const HEX_ENCODING = CryptoJS.enc.Hex;

// computation logic
const CG_GAME_RESULT = (gameHash) => {
    gameHash = CryptoJS.HmacSHA256(HEX_ENCODING.parse(gameHash), CG_GAMES_SALT)
        .toString(HEX_ENCODING)
        .slice(0, CG_MSB_NUMBER / 4);
    const hashResult = Math.floor(99 / (1 - parseInt(gameHash, 16) / Math.pow(2, CG_MSB_NUMBER)));
    return Math.max(hashResult / 100, 1);
};

The salt is a constant and equal to lowercase hexadecimal hash representation of unmined (at the moment of making this post) bitcoin block #572,752 (https://btc.com/block/572752). This way, such salt is a proof that the hash chain was NOT chosen deliberately with unfavorable game results for the players. First game hash is: 4790d1e1b91bd559cbd228e713fa85749443c0030b0036ae6b500e82d6490630


Games fair verification tools:
Verify Online (https://fair.coinsgainer.com/) / Verify Offline (https://fair.coinsgainer.com/download) / JsFiddle (https://jsfiddle.net/jarolee/34uwpn67/embedded/result/) / GitHub (https://github.com/jarolee/coinsgainer-fairness-verification/)


This is a very nice probabily fair games and I just viewed the site now and is good.  However I dont understand the process of playing as explain by op on this thread.  Hope to get more explanation  from op.  

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: Alpinat on May 07, 2019, 06:53:53 AM
I see this gambling website last week but I still not try to observe it because I am busy. Can someone tell me if this is like a crash game that similar to bab gambling site? I would like to try it if that's the case.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: veleten on May 07, 2019, 11:45:46 AM
Quote from: Alpinat on May 07, 2019, 06:53:53 AM
I see this gambling website last week but I still not try to observe it because I am busy. Can someone tell me if this is like a crash game that similar to bab gambling site? I would like to try it if that's the case.

yeap , this is your regular crash game , but the results are displayed in a form of a speedometer
the rest is usual - multuplier goes up until it crashes , those who press collect before it crashes get paid
there is nothing really special about the site , maybe the free faucet
other than that , their chat is deserted , there are no interesting promotions running etc.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on May 07, 2019, 11:53:40 AM
Thank you all for the feedback. It's extremely important for us. Every single day we doing our best with your help to become better than we were yesterday. Every question, suggestion or just comment greatly help us in that. I will answer to the most popular question asked here in regard to our nearest future plans (in order of priority), briefly:

  • advertising campaign launch
  • advanced player stats
  • autobetting online/offline feature

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: 2double0 on May 07, 2019, 01:00:00 PM
I personally liked the idea of merging a dice layout with the added spice of a burst like moneypot (which you call 'chance' here). Have some questions though:

1 - Why are we not allowed to make more than BTC0.0374 per bet? (Max Gain: BTC0.0374)

2 - How much maximum can it go higher in number? (How many times exactly? Like 1000x, 10000x?)

3 - As I have not signed up yet, may I know how much free BTC do you give to your users?

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on May 07, 2019, 04:33:33 PM
Quote from: 2double0 on May 07, 2019, 01:00:00 PM
1 - Why are we not allowed to make more than BTC0.0374 per bet? (Max Gain: BTC0.0374)
Those limits are floating and strongly depends on current bankroll size, which is currently not very large.
Check our FAQ section (https://coinsgainer.com/faq) for details.

Quote from: 2double0 on May 07, 2019, 01:00:00 PM
2 - How much maximum can it go higher in number? (How many times exactly? Like 1000x, 10000x?)
Thanks to calculation algorithm nature, there is no any limits on maximum multiplier.
Few days ago, for example, you could see 69,677.19 as the result of 48077th round (https://coinsgainer.com/game/48077).

Quote from: 2double0 on May 07, 2019, 01:00:00 PM
3 - As I have not signed up yet, may I know how much free BTC do you give to your users?
You will receive free 10 satoshi per request.
Faucet terms are fully described at our FAQ section (https://coinsgainer.com/faq).

Good luck!

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on May 07, 2019, 07:21:17 PM
We have reached first thousand players!
Let's continue to gather momentum together!

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: morrisgonzalez on May 08, 2019, 06:41:45 AM
Yes, CoinsGainer.com Probably Fair Multiplayer game. There are many interesting and interesting features here that give the best experience of the players. Some of the main features are free faucet, automatic deposits, instant withdrawals, multiple windows bets, mobile-friendly, etc. I like mobile friendly and multiple windows bets. There are not many windows bets on many online sites but here they are. I have never heard anything bad about CoinsGainer.com and considering all aspects, I think CoinsGainer.com is probably Fair Multiplayer game.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: BTCevo on May 08, 2019, 11:34:29 PM
Quote from: jarolee on May 07, 2019, 07:21:17 PM
We have reached first thousand players!
Let's continue to gather momentum together!

This is one of a good thing to have, because players is everything here. The problem is you have thousand players registered and only 20 online and 5 playing. And I check the stats of your game, max bet is only 0.03, same to the max gain. I wondering how much multiplier can we get here, in past 10 games, I never saw any multiplier out from 2.5x. May be I should do more but overall I can say, this site need to have more bankroll to increase its player and the wagering amount

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on May 09, 2019, 02:53:05 PM
Quote from: BTCevo on May 08, 2019, 11:34:29 PM
overall I can say, this site need to have more bankroll to increase its player and the wagering amount

Undoubtedly.
Currently, we are too young to afford a large bankroll.
Sweety investment program is on the way.
Thank you for your feedback.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: veleten on May 10, 2019, 10:57:18 AM
Quote from: jarolee on May 09, 2019, 02:53:05 PM
Quote from: BTCevo on May 08, 2019, 11:34:29 PM
overall I can say, this site need to have more bankroll to increase its player and the wagering amount

Undoubtedly.
Currently, we are too young to afford a large bankroll.
Sweety investment program is on the way.
Thank you for your feedback.

a public bankroll sounds like a good idea at this stage
you cannot afford a big bankroll being a new site , but if you offer good investment plan and ensure your investors feel safe investing into you
it could give your site a big boost , will be hard to compete , still , but you can find your niche for sure
keep working on the site , add new features and think of some nice promotions and you can succeed

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on May 10, 2019, 01:08:20 PM
Stay tuned so you don't miss upcoming opportunities and features.
Thank you @veleten for the kind words!

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: traderethereum on May 10, 2019, 04:01:31 PM
Quote from: jarolee on May 07, 2019, 07:21:17 PM
We have reached first thousand players!
Let's continue to gather momentum together!
Congratulations on the achievements, I hope that the number will grow in the future so you can get more players who will play on the site.
We will wait for the upcoming opportunities and features, and we hope that it will be something good for members and of course for the site itself so it will help the site to bigger.
I am trying to register to your site and get a free satoshi to play.
Playing for a small amount with 1.01 gain will be good for me as I can win over and over hahaha ;D

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: okala on May 10, 2019, 04:19:30 PM
Quote from: jarolee on May 10, 2019, 01:08:20 PM
Stay tuned so you don't miss upcoming opportunities and features.
Thank you @veleten for the kind words!
We are all waiting to when we can have the mobile version of the game's on your platform, I have played and win some games and I will want to do better when am able to play on mobile devices because I will be able to play games on the go without having to stock to my computer for a long time. I love the Bank roll investment where users can earn by investing on the bank roll and gain percentage from the house edge.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on May 10, 2019, 06:43:59 PM
Quote from: okala on May 10, 2019, 04:19:30 PM
We are all waiting to when we can have the mobile version of the game's on your platform, I have played and win some games and I will want to do better when am able to play on mobile devices because I will be able to play games on the go without having to stock to my computer for a long time. I love the Bank roll investment where users can earn by investing on the bank roll and gain percentage from the house edge.

The game is initially designed using mobile-first strategy.
Could you clarify, please, what difficulties you encountered with using a website on a mobile device?
With regard to keep playing while offline, right now we are working hard on autobet feature with both of online and offline modes.
Looking forward your reply soon )

https://i.imgur.com/1HQxc01.png

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: neonshium on May 11, 2019, 05:48:23 AM
This seems really interesting and I would love to play it. I have already visited the site and bookmarked it to start playing later when I get chance to. But on that features you have mentioned ,there is something I don't really understand , you mentioned free faucets and that users are getting free faucets after sign up.

Do you mean like real faucets? Or you mean that the site has a faucet users can claim free satoshis to play the game? If so, I'm hoping there isn't going to be so much if annoying ads just like most faucets are these days, cause I know a lot of faucets that are pretty annoying with ads and that's one of the reasons I dislike faucets .

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on May 11, 2019, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: neonshium on May 11, 2019, 05:48:23 AM
Do you mean like real faucets? Or you mean that the site has a faucet users can claim free satoshis to play the game? If so, I'm hoping there isn't going to be so much if annoying ads just like most faucets are these days, cause I know a lot of faucets that are pretty annoying with ads and that's one of the reasons I dislike faucets.

Just free satoshi to play the game without bullshit.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on May 12, 2019, 08:39:04 AM
User's profile is publicly visible now.
Charts will be added soon.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: BTCevo on May 15, 2019, 01:43:58 PM
Quote from: jarolee on May 09, 2019, 02:53:05 PM
Quote from: BTCevo on May 08, 2019, 11:34:29 PM
overall I can say, this site need to have more bankroll to increase its player and the wagering amount

Undoubtedly.
Currently, we are too young to afford a large bankroll.
Sweety investment program is on the way.
Thank you for your feedback.

Why dont you take what veleten said? By opening a public investment, this is sure to make your site trustable and gain more people to play. For the current time I do not think you have more players, even if you do, they do not wagered big right? Bankroll is really needed and is a important thing to have for such a young site.



Quote from: neonshium on May 11, 2019, 05:48:23 AM
This seems really interesting and I would love to play it. I have already visited the site and bookmarked it to start playing later when I get chance to. But on that features you have mentioned ,there is something I don't really understand , you mentioned free faucets and that users are getting free faucets after sign up.

Do you mean like real faucets? Or you mean that the site has a faucet users can claim free satoshis to play the game? If so, I'm hoping there isn't going to be so much if annoying ads just like most faucets are these days, cause I know a lot of faucets that are pretty annoying with ads and that's one of the reasons I dislike faucets .

Are you saying that you never play crash game? This is exactly have the same concept as any crash game before. And for the faucet, you just claim as usual and for the bonus it is a normal thing for the new site to have

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on May 16, 2019, 11:01:01 AM
Quote from: BTCevo on May 15, 2019, 01:43:58 PM
Why dont you take what veleten said? By opening a public investment, this is sure to make your site trustable and gain more people to play.

As I mentioned it before, currently, public investment at the development stage.
The feature will be released approx. within a few weeks, right after autobet.
Thank you!

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: kingpin4321 on May 16, 2019, 03:05:51 PM
I would want to know what is the amount of the faucet that would be giving. I had had an ugly incidence previously when a gaming site promised faucet but on finding out it was as worth less as anything.
Although faucet is not a major yardstick of a good gaming site it still of value to the worth reputation of the site

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: okala on May 16, 2019, 05:28:02 PM
Quote from: kingpin4321 on May 16, 2019, 03:05:51 PM
I would want to know what is the amount of the faucet that would be giving. I had had an ugly incidence previously when a gaming site promised faucet but on finding out it was as worth less as anything.
Although faucet is not a major yardstick of a good gaming site it still of value to the worth reputation of the site
The amount faucet pay depends on how much time you put to it but also know that faucet on gambling site is not different with the one on all the other faucet website, it pay just little but the advantage of the faucet on gambling site is that it allow you to play games on the site using your earning from faucet to place the bet.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: traderethereum on May 16, 2019, 05:48:47 PM
Quote from: okala on May 16, 2019, 05:28:02 PM
Quote from: kingpin4321 on May 16, 2019, 03:05:51 PM
I would want to know what is the amount of the faucet that would be giving. I had had an ugly incidence previously when a gaming site promised faucet but on finding out it was as worth less as anything.
Although faucet is not a major yardstick of a good gaming site it still of value to the worth reputation of the site
The amount faucet pay depends on how much time you put to it but also know that faucet on gambling site is not different with the one on all the other faucet website, it pay just little but the advantage of the faucet on gambling site is that it allow you to play games on the site using your earning from faucet to place the bet.
I think the reward will be a small satoshi because right now, the faucet has reduced the rewards and it's not worth to collect, but it's worth for playing gambling ;D
It is no problem if we could get less than 100 satoshis in the faucet because we could play the game and we could get free coins again if we are losing the money.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: panjul07 on May 16, 2019, 07:45:23 PM
Quote from: kingpin4321 on May 16, 2019, 03:05:51 PM
I would want to know what is the amount of the faucet that would be giving. I had had an ugly incidence previously when a gaming site promised faucet but on finding out it was as worth less as anything.
Although faucet is not a major yardstick of a good gaming site it still of value to the worth reputation of the site

Faucet has nothing to do with casino's reputation, offering a big amount from the faucet does not guarantee that the site is a well reputed site. If you want to know how much you'll get from coinsgamer, simply visit the site and you'll find the answer on the site even without an account. I believe most gambling sites wont satisfy you if you are relying on its faucet because the amount is just small only especially for new users. If your main idea is to do real gamble, you wont really care about how much the faucet amount is.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: r1a2y3m4 on May 16, 2019, 07:57:49 PM
I just visited your site and it looks like bustadice that was old. Only the difference was bustadice is a line graph and yours is a car meter. The site is well designed but the chat is not what I expected. It is in Russian language and I think you need to create servers of chat on your site.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on May 24, 2019, 04:22:23 PM
Player's bets charts added.
Auto-betting is the next one.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on June 14, 2019, 05:36:44 PM
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Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on July 17, 2019, 07:34:22 PM
Bounty campaign (https://bounty.coinsgainer.com) has been launched
Get BTC reward just for being social.

Details: https://bounty.coinsgainer.com (https://bounty.coinsgainer.com)
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Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on August 08, 2019, 09:06:11 AM
Betting has become much more comfortable.
https://i.imgur.com/mnLAEDt.jpg
Have a nice day!

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: panjul07 on August 08, 2019, 12:37:09 PM
Quote from: jarolee on July 17, 2019, 07:34:22 PM
Bounty campaign (https://bounty.coinsgainer.com) has been launched
Get BTC reward just for being social.

Details: https://bounty.coinsgainer.com (https://bounty.coinsgainer.com)
Welcome aboard, partners!

Nice bounty to be honest but why you don't spread it in this forum while it seems that you have a good amount of budget for the campaign? Its been around 3 weeks after you launch it, how many active bounty participants you have right now and how it affects your site? Is it effective enough? I just checked the site for a few minutes but there are only around 4-5 users betting with very small bet (1-10 satoshi only).
I believe you need to offer more than just bounty, you need to offer regular promo/contest to make people stay betting on your site. It is just unfortunate to see that you have enough budget for bounty but there is no good offers on the site.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: Oilacris on August 08, 2019, 08:30:47 PM
Quote from: panjul07 on August 08, 2019, 12:37:09 PM
Quote from: jarolee on July 17, 2019, 07:34:22 PM
Bounty campaign (https://bounty.coinsgainer.com) has been launched
Get BTC reward just for being social.

Details: https://bounty.coinsgainer.com (https://bounty.coinsgainer.com)
Welcome aboard, partners!

Nice bounty to be honest but why you don't spread it in this forum while it seems that you have a good amount of budget for the campaign? Its been around 3 weeks after you launch it, how many active bounty participants you have right now and how it affects your site? Is it effective enough? I just checked the site for a few minutes but there are only around 4-5 users betting with very small bet (1-10 satoshi only).
I believe you need to offer more than just bounty, you need to offer regular promo/contest to make people stay betting on your site. It is just unfortunate to see that you have enough budget for bounty but there is no good offers on the site.

Right!

As far as I can see they do have youtube,vk,fb and twitter campaign and yes their budget allocation is pretty decent but they do lack something which is signature campaign.If they do have the budget they should at least consider on having a campaign on this forum it might not give out guarantee to get users but this place do have the best traffic when it comes to crypto thing.

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on August 09, 2019, 10:33:39 AM
Quote from: Oilacris on August 08, 2019, 08:30:47 PM
Quote from: panjul07 on August 08, 2019, 12:37:09 PM
Quote from: jarolee on July 17, 2019, 07:34:22 PM
Bounty campaign (https://bounty.coinsgainer.com) has been launched
Get BTC reward just for being social.

Details: https://bounty.coinsgainer.com (https://bounty.coinsgainer.com)
Welcome aboard, partners!

Nice bounty to be honest but why you don't spread it in this forum while it seems that you have a good amount of budget for the campaign? Its been around 3 weeks after you launch it, how many active bounty participants you have right now and how it affects your site? Is it effective enough? I just checked the site for a few minutes but there are only around 4-5 users betting with very small bet (1-10 satoshi only).
I believe you need to offer more than just bounty, you need to offer regular promo/contest to make people stay betting on your site. It is just unfortunate to see that you have enough budget for bounty but there is no good offers on the site.

Right!

As far as I can see they do have youtube,vk,fb and twitter campaign and yes their budget allocation is pretty decent but they do lack something which is signature campaign.If they do have the budget they should at least consider on having a campaign on this forum it might not give out guarantee to get users but this place do have the best traffic when it comes to crypto thing.

Our main current problem is that my team is techs at most. Thousands spent, but zero results. That has become a great lesson for us. So, the best option here is to find a tough marketing partner, who has involved in crypto gambling for years, expert! Unfortunately, it's not easy. So we still looking for, you know .. :-\ But, I strongly believe that everything will be fine! Thank you guys @Oilacris, @ panjul07 for caring. <3

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: LimLims on August 09, 2019, 01:47:35 PM
Quote from: jarolee on August 09, 2019, 10:33:39 AM
Quote from: Oilacris on August 08, 2019, 08:30:47 PM
Quote from: panjul07 on August 08, 2019, 12:37:09 PM
Quote from: jarolee on July 17, 2019, 07:34:22 PM
Bounty campaign (https://bounty.coinsgainer.com) has been launched
Get BTC reward just for being social.

Details: https://bounty.coinsgainer.com (https://bounty.coinsgainer.com)
Welcome aboard, partners!

Nice bounty to be honest but why you don't spread it in this forum while it seems that you have a good amount of budget for the campaign? Its been around 3 weeks after you launch it, how many active bounty participants you have right now and how it affects your site? Is it effective enough? I just checked the site for a few minutes but there are only around 4-5 users betting with very small bet (1-10 satoshi only).
I believe you need to offer more than just bounty, you need to offer regular promo/contest to make people stay betting on your site. It is just unfortunate to see that you have enough budget for bounty but there is no good offers on the site.

Right!

As far as I can see they do have youtube,vk,fb and twitter campaign and yes their budget allocation is pretty decent but they do lack something which is signature campaign.If they do have the budget they should at least consider on having a campaign on this forum it might not give out guarantee to get users but this place do have the best traffic when it comes to crypto thing.

Our main current problem is that my team is techs at most. Thousands spent, but zero results. That has become a great lesson for us. So, the best option here is to find a tough marketing partner, who has involved in crypto gambling for years, expert! Unfortunately, it's not easy. So we still looking for, you know .. :-\ But, I strongly believe that everything will be fine! Thank you guys @Oilacris, @ panjul07 for caring. <3

You guys really have the capability to do more.
But you guys are lacking proper mindset for which site is not getting desirable traffic.
As the other members said,  signature campaign can really help you.
You can hire professionals like Yahoo or Hhampuz to host your signature campaign and this will surely help you out.
Good luck

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: samson707 on March 25, 2020, 07:00:53 AM
As other members mentioned your site is not up to mark to say it is a professional gambling site.

Also, you need to allow users to try your games without registering on your site and later if they like it then they will secure their account with login details. If you follow that method then you can see some people trying those games otherwise you will have a site without any users

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: Cratoon on March 25, 2020, 10:11:52 AM
Hi! Curious project! :)

Can you further expand on the conditions for the bankrollers? What is the percentage of their revenue, and what guarantees of fund safety do you provide to them?

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on April 11, 2020, 12:36:32 PM
Hello guys! First of all, sorry it took so long to get back to you. Rough couple of weeks.

Quote from: samson707 on March 25, 2020, 07:00:53 AM
As other members mentioned your site is not up to mark to say it is a professional gambling site.

Also, you need to allow users to try your games without registering on your site and later if they like it then they will secure their account with login details. If you follow that method then you can see some people trying those games otherwise you will have a site without any users

Thank you very much for your advice. We will definitely think about it in deep.

Quote from: Cratoon on March 25, 2020, 10:11:52 AM
Hi! Curious project! :)

Can you further expand on the conditions for the bankrollers? What is the percentage of their revenue, and what guarantees of fund safety do you provide to them?

Currently, the conditions of investing in a bankroll are discussed individually until we have a public service for bankrollers.
According to features, guarantees and safety:
  • 10% of our bankroll we keep in a cold storage. Always! This is our top rule.
  • Every single player could win no more than 0.75% of the bankroll per round.
  • Totally players could win no more than 1% of the bankroll per round.
  • In ten days we will celebrate our first birthday, and yep we know, 1 year is too small to got a top notch reputation, but... We are here to stay!
  • Average number of a players in every single round 15-20. And we continue rising from day to day, thanks to our in-house android application BTC BitBomb (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.bitbomb), where we have hundreds installs per day that have an everyday rising as well.
  • Affiliate program launch is scheduled for mid-May 2020. We count on that will bring much more gambling traffic.
  • The main thing, is that we currently have just a few bankrollers. So, every new bankroller have a chance to got the largest percentage.

I will be happy to discuss the details, if you interested in.
Thank you!

Title: Re: CoinsGainer.com - provably fair multiplayer game of chance
Post by: jarolee on June 05, 2020, 02:41:56 PM
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