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Title: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: Baofeng on April 23, 2019, 03:18:31 AM
You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning

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Bitcoin spenders can now use the lightning network to shop at e-commerce sites like Amazon.

Crypto payment processing startup Moon (https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-shop-with-bitcoin-on-amazon-using-lightning) announced today that any lightning-enabled wallet can now also be used through Moon’s browser extension. Before this lightning feature, roughly 250 beta users already used Moon to spend crypto on e-commerce sites by connecting the browser extension to exchange accounts like Coinbase.

To be clear, Amazon itself never touches bitcoin. Kruger declined to specify which traditional financial institutions are helping convert the bitcoin to fiat on the backend so that Amazon merchants actually receive fiat currency for their wares. However, Kruger added that by 2020 the lightning-enabled feature should work on almost any e-commerce site, regardless of whether that platform accepts bitcoin directly.

“There’s no direct merchant integration,” Kruger said, clarifying that Moon also manages payment channels and merely offers a simple interface for sending payments.


https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-shop-with-bitcoin-on-amazon-using-lightning


What are you thoughts about this one? Remember you have to download your browser's extension and then connects your wallet. And this what worry me most. As this could be another potential loopholes that hackers can exploit. And I assume that the fee's here will be high as well.

I also heard negative press about the people behind this company. So this is not an endorsement of any kind. Just wanted to brought this to the community. Always used your common sense.  ;D

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/auqrhf/psa_on_moon_browser_extension/


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: alisafidel58 on April 23, 2019, 03:51:32 AM
I thought I saw a thread yesterday about this topic seems like it has been deleted.



Even though the project is great and can relatively help online buyers that use crypto to buy something out of Amazon, I still wouldn't install an add on in my google chrome. As you said this could be a loophole where hackers can get information about somebody's crypto wallet and other information that a hacker can exploit.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: pooya87 on April 23, 2019, 04:03:40 AM
the title of the article is very misleading because you still can not "shop on Amazon with bitcoin" since they do not accept bitcoin and what you are doing is that you are going through a third party which is never desirable specially when we are talking about decentralized bitcoin which was supposed to cut all the middle men.

besides Amazon should be a thing of past for us, in our world we should stick to decentralized market places such as Open Bazaar and make them grow and replace Amazon.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: btc_angela on April 23, 2019, 04:33:53 AM
I try to look at Amazon's blog and I can't find anything related to this news. Anyways, @pooya87 says it's not a direct bitcoin->bitcoin payment, need a third party so I wouldn't consider this as adoption per se.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: Beerwizzard on April 23, 2019, 05:29:42 AM
Notice that Amazon is still not receiving Bitcoin so you can't say that you are really paying with BTC for something. The other thing is that sometimes such big companies provide anti crypto policy and ban all crypto related accounts. Just as PayPal, some other payment systems and some big banks do.
So we still have to see Amazon's official statement about this payment method.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: BlackFor3st on April 23, 2019, 05:32:31 AM
This is kinda tricky and there is a big possibility that the browser's extension will end up stealing our information especially our private keys and etc.

The project is good to be true. If it can really process the payment using bitcoin then there should be an announcement by the side of the Amazon and they are even claiming that it will work on almost e commerce site. It is better to avoid this kind of action as I am pretty sure that it is only a trap.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: okala on April 23, 2019, 05:38:13 AM
There was a thread yesterday about this amazon e-commerce shop accepting bitcoin through lightning network, well as you have rightly said users need to use they sense because in as much as this development of Amazon shop accepting bitcoin is a good news the fact still remains that the transactions are done using a third party website which give us so much concerns.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: Kakmakr on April 23, 2019, 05:40:07 AM
It does not count when you buy at Amazon via a payment processor, because that is not merchant adoption. Amazon should host their own Lightning Network nodes and accept Bitcoin payment directly for it to be significant news.

Moon is just another risk factor, because it is an exploitable centralized service with no reputable history and credibility behind their name. So this can even be dangerous for people to trust these kinds of services. <even worst, through browser extensions>  ::)


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: Bitinity on April 23, 2019, 05:55:34 AM
I thought I saw a thread yesterday about this topic seems like it has been deleted.

You did not see it but you did even reply to the thread with old news.

Even though the project is great and can relatively help online buyers that use crypto to buy something out of Amazon, I still wouldn't install an add on in my google chrome. As you said this could be a loophole where hackers can get information about somebody's crypto wallet and other information that a hacker can exploit.

If there is an official announcement from Amazon that this add on is safe then I think it is OK to use it. I'm curious to know what Amazon's CEO thinks about this add on.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: Ailmand on April 23, 2019, 06:12:45 AM
It's hard to believe that payments can be made on Amazon using Bitcoin. They have announced the they will be launching it on Wednesday but Amazon doesn't have any further announcement about it yet so it is still hard to believe. All I know is that Amazon has not started cryptocurrency payment directly but it would still be fiat through Visa and Mastercard.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 23, 2019, 06:20:48 AM
It's hard to believe that payments can be made on Amazon using Bitcoin. They have announced the they will be launching it on Wednesday but Amazon doesn't have any further announcement about it yet so it is still hard to believe. All I know is that Amazon has not started cryptocurrency payment directly but it would still be fiat through Visa and Mastercard.

It's not a direct payment as the articles say. You need someone in between to facilitate the payment that's why you won't here anything on the side of Amazon.

But my concern is that you need to "trust" that third party, which for me defeats the whole purpose of crypto. It should be crypto-to-crypto, anyways, I won't used there services to be honest. Would use other payment method unless Amazon officially says that they are going to accept crypto, but that is a long shot.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: Haunebu on April 23, 2019, 06:55:01 AM
besides Amazon should be a thing of past for us, in our world we should stick to decentralized market places such as Open Bazaar and make them grow and replace Amazon.
What the heck is Open Bazaar? Never heard of it. Why in the world do you think this site can actually replace the king of E-commerce anytime in the future?

The best option here is Amazon allowing users to use crypto as a payment method though they don't really have much incentive at the moment to do that which is why they don't care about it currently.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: peter0425 on April 23, 2019, 08:20:22 AM
besides Amazon should be a thing of past for us, in our world we should stick to decentralized market places such as Open Bazaar and make them grow and replace Amazon.
What the heck is Open Bazaar? Never heard of it. Why in the world do you think this site can actually replace the king of E-commerce anytime in the future?

The best option here is Amazon allowing users to use crypto as a payment method though they don't really have much incentive at the moment to do that which is why they don't care about it currently.
Here it is buddy: https://openbazaar.org/. They have been in the crypto sphere since 2016 so I don't know why you are not familiar with it.  ;D. Of course we would like to see Amazon accepting bitcoin, and everyone has been speculating that they might do it in the future, but it seems that they are not really interested as of the moment. That's why this so called startup company Moon, decided to take the plunge.



Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: beliomir on April 23, 2019, 08:43:42 AM
It's hard to believe that payments can be made on Amazon using Bitcoin. They have announced the they will be launching it on Wednesday but Amazon doesn't have any further announcement about it yet so it is still hard to believe. All I know is that Amazon has not started cryptocurrency payment directly but it would still be fiat through Visa and Mastercard.

In any case, this is positive news, and we see how the market comes to life thanks to such news. I think this is a matter of time.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: Mandoy on April 23, 2019, 11:02:38 AM
This is actually a good news but there are also many things that we should consider before shopping in Amazon using bitcoin. But what really worries the bitcoin enthusiasts is the third party server that is just new and has no track record whatsoever. Everything that is new and seems mysterious to the community are a big question mark. There will be many doubts and questions about the process and their credibility. But I guess soon enough if there will be people that will make a good review about this new method of buying into Amazon using bitcoin via the third party then that will be very helpful for all of us.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: Pr3ko on April 23, 2019, 11:07:24 AM
If this becomes true, it will be a new step for this platform


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on April 23, 2019, 11:23:21 AM
This is very good news, it says that already Bitcoin can be paid through the Lightning network. This may be one of the reasons why Bitcoin can continue to grow further. Because it is a pleasure to pay in Bitcoin with a small commission and without delays.
I have no doubt that this is only the beginning of the recognition of cryptocurrency as a method of payment.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: traderethereum on April 23, 2019, 11:31:11 AM
I don't want to install any add on in my browser because I have a bad experience on installing the add on. Even if the add on will help me to shop using bitcoin on any online store, I still don't want to install it.
It's too risky for me and you, because we don't know if the add on can be safe forever and nothing is safe forever especially on the internet.
As we know that when we are connected to the internet, we need to be careful if we don't want our private information to get a stolen or hacked by another person.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: Kemarit on April 23, 2019, 11:47:32 AM
If this becomes true, it will be a new step for this platform

If you read the article, it seems to be true. Also searching around the internet yields a lot of news about this one.

This is actually a good news but there are also many things that we should consider before shopping in Amazon using bitcoin. But what really worries the bitcoin enthusiasts is the third party server that is just new and has no track record whatsoever. Everything that is new and seems mysterious to the community are a big question mark. There will be many doubts and questions about the process and their credibility. But I guess soon enough if there will be people that will make a good review about this new method of buying into Amazon using bitcoin via the third party then that will be very helpful for all of us.

Personally, I just wouldn't jump on this kind of hype. Again, there is someone involved in the middle, doesn't and it doesn't sit down with the way I wanted to used my bitcoin as a payment. There are already lots of questions already as posted by the OP, questions that can only be answered if users started to take advantage of this so called services.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: yusupjatigumilar on April 23, 2019, 12:18:39 PM
I really don't know firsthand whether this is true or not, but certainly every bitcoin news that appears I always hope that it can make the crypto currency market more and better. If indeed this is true means shopping on Amazon can be done easily anywhere and anytime without any distance and time limits.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: kurian on April 23, 2019, 12:26:54 PM
I think the payment is processing through a third party service. Even if Amazon accepts Bitcoin payments, I won't be buying anything using it. Because, Bitcoin is volatile and I would be too hesitant to sell my bitcoin for goods. If any services accepts gold as a payment, I won't think people would do it. Same happens with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on April 23, 2019, 12:44:01 PM
The title you posted is misleading since Amazon does not accept bitcoin as a payment method and all the process of buying is done through a third party which means your funds are no longer secured. I wouldn't install an extension on my browser that has access to my  wallet since it could easily be hacked and I would lose all my funds.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: Indamuck on April 23, 2019, 12:52:31 PM
I think the payment is processing through a third party service. Even if Amazon accepts Bitcoin payments, I won't be buying anything using it. Because, Bitcoin is volatile and I would be too hesitant to sell my bitcoin for goods. If any services accepts gold as a payment, I won't think people would do it. Same happens with Bitcoin.

This title is misleading, you can spend bitcoin anywhere you want if a 3rd party service is involved so you an't really say these places are accepting crypto for payments.  Your correct about the volatility, that is one of the main reasons sellers are afraid to accept bitcoin directly.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: alyssa85 on April 23, 2019, 12:59:01 PM
besides Amazon should be a thing of past for us, in our world we should stick to decentralized market places such as Open Bazaar and make them grow and replace Amazon.
What the heck is Open Bazaar? Never heard of it. Why in the world do you think this site can actually replace the king of E-commerce anytime in the future?



Back in the year 2000, it seemed unlikely that Amazon would sell anything other than books.

Everything starts with a small step. If crypto users started using Open Bazaar, then it would grow. Whereas waiting for Amazon to accept crypto might take forever.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: BrewMaster on April 23, 2019, 01:11:55 PM
even without reading the links i can tell you that a big company like Amazon who has been asked to add bitcoin payment options to their platforms and have been refusing it so far is not going to change their mind without a fuss overnight and they will definitely not start with Lightning Network.
reading the links it is obvious that this was a clever way of advertising that service that has nothing to do with Amazon.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: aad140386 on April 23, 2019, 01:21:02 PM
By itself, the news is very positive, but the situation is that it would be as if not a direct purchase on Amazon, but a purchase with the help of an intermediary. In addition, as you yourself wrote this method of payment may not be safe for users. Personally, I will not use this service yet. Until Amazon enters on the site the ability to pay directly, I personally will not risk it. Moreover, I still do not see much point in paying for goods on Amazon using Bitcoin. In the current situation, on the contrary, I try to accumulate it.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: stompix on April 23, 2019, 01:23:06 PM
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To be clear, Amazon itself never touches bitcoin. Kruger declined to specify which traditional financial institutions are helping convert the bitcoin to fiat on the backend so that Amazon merchants actually receive fiat currency for their wares. However, Kruger added that by 2020 the lightning-enabled feature should work on almost any e-commerce site, regardless of whether that platform accepts bitcoin directly.

So I guess this is far worse than a simple 3rd party payment solution like bitpay or coingate..

First, you have to install a browser extension....seriously?
Then you pay coins for the invoice and an undisclosed partner ill take care of the conversion...
At this point, it is possible Amazon has no clue what the guys from Moon are doing and they might shut it down at any time.

If they would have done it through a normal 3rd party like the ones I've mentioned I would have said it's a step forward but this thing is shady, and not just that





Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: lyks15 on April 23, 2019, 02:17:53 PM
That is great even a big company like Amazon are now adding bitcoin as a payment. This is one of so many proof that bitcoin will starting to dominate all over the world. And because of that netizens and government will open their mind in using and investing in bitcoin. And I think bitcoin can be a good instrument a easier daily transaction when other big companies like Amazon are going to invest at bitcoin.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: leonair on April 23, 2019, 02:22:46 PM
When I first saw this thread I thought that Amazon was really adopted Bitcoin and it was the reason for the increasing price of Bitcoin nowadays but after reading the posts of different people then I realized that this is an another hoax,  I'm now curious again on why is the price of BTC is on an uptrend.



Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: soulripper on April 23, 2019, 02:25:16 PM
We still cannot shop with bitcoin on Amazon cause that are not included in their payment processor. The article was mean to have a third party site to handle the payment and convert it into fiat. There was no sentence where it say amazon accepted bitcoin for their payment. Read it back and the title was so misleading people.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: minersday on April 25, 2019, 05:17:10 AM
the title of the article is very misleading because you still can not "shop on Amazon with bitcoin" since they do not accept bitcoin and what you are doing is that you are going through a third party which is never desirable specially when we are talking about decentralized bitcoin which was supposed to cut all the middle men.

From the look of how this third party operates, I will agree with you on this. Giving a third party an opportunity to connect to your browser and wallet is not a great idea. You are just making your wallet vulnerable to be hacked.

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besides Amazon should be a thing of past for us, in our world we should stick to decentralized market places such as Open Bazaar and make them grow and replace Amazon.

I realized that decentralized online market platforms do not really promote their platforms and that is the reason for the low patronage.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: jojohamasa on April 25, 2019, 09:41:24 PM
You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning

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Bitcoin spenders can now use the lightning network to shop at e-commerce sites like Amazon.

Crypto payment processing startup Moon (https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-shop-with-bitcoin-on-amazon-using-lightning) announced today that any lightning-enabled wallet can now also be used through Moon’s browser extension. Before this lightning feature, roughly 250 beta users already used Moon to spend crypto on e-commerce sites by connecting the browser extension to exchange accounts like Coinbase.

To be clear, Amazon itself never touches bitcoin. Kruger declined to specify which traditional financial institutions are helping convert the bitcoin to fiat on the backend so that Amazon merchants actually receive fiat currency for their wares. However, Kruger added that by 2020 the lightning-enabled feature should work on almost any e-commerce site, regardless of whether that platform accepts bitcoin directly.

“There’s no direct merchant integration,” Kruger said, clarifying that Moon also manages payment channels and merely offers a simple interface for sending payments.


https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-shop-with-bitcoin-on-amazon-using-lightning


What are you thoughts about this one? Remember you have to download your browser's extension and then connects your wallet. And this what worry me most. As this could be another potential loopholes that hackers can exploit. And I assume that the fee's here will be high as well.

I also heard negative press about the people behind this company. So this is not an endorsement of any kind. Just wanted to brought this to the community. Always used your common sense.  ;D

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/auqrhf/psa_on_moon_browser_extension/


The story is summed up in the third party
Amazon did not accept BTC
Amazon must be pressured by its dealers (who wish to accept BTC as a payment method)
Or encourage other sites that have already accepted BTC and deal with it more.
 


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: 1Referee on April 25, 2019, 10:31:50 PM
even without reading the links i can tell you that a big company like Amazon who has been asked to add bitcoin payment options to their platforms and have been refusing it so far is not going to change their mind without a fuss overnight and they will definitely not start with Lightning Network.

Amazon will continue ignoring Bitcoin until it can actually handle at least a quarter of the volumes it's pushing on a daily basis. Bitcoin as it is right now can't even come close to 0.1% of their volumes. People need to stop being overly bullish and expect miracles to happen.

Imagine all the complaints Amazon has to deal with by accepting Bitcoin. Most of the current non crypto related merchants experience more problems accepting Bitcoin than it results in a boost in revenue and profits. It wouldn't even surprise me if they end up getting ddos attacked just because they accept Bitcoin. What a hassle.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: blockchainwriters on April 26, 2019, 05:33:38 AM
Much awaited update from amazon for bitcoin enthuasim bitcoin now been accepted in amazon web store Amazon and bitcoin acceptance have positive impact on crypto


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: uspetike on April 26, 2019, 07:46:19 AM
Wow, really cryptocurrency goes to e-commerce? What a news! I did not live to see it until this time when market leaders will pay attention to cryptocurrency. That should have been done a long time ago.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: gleilsonsilva on April 26, 2019, 07:50:46 AM
Wow, really cryptocurrency goes to e-commerce? What a news! I did not live to see it until this time when market leaders will pay attention to cryptocurrency. That should have been done a long time ago.
I do not know whether this is a proposal to switch to a new browser, but integration of cryptocurrency into large services will occur, I am sure of that. how quickly this happens depends on whether to join large services in a revolution. I can accept the fact that few people still understand the advantage of cryptocurrency. But for this, there are platforms like taklimakan this to teach more people how to use cryptocurrency as a means of trading and payments.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: sethelfor on April 26, 2019, 07:55:13 AM
Wow, really cryptocurrency goes to e-commerce? What a news! I did not live to see it until this time when market leaders will pay attention to cryptocurrency. That should have been done a long time ago.
I do not know whether this is a proposal to switch to a new browser, but integration of cryptocurrency into large services will occur, I am sure of that. how quickly this happens depends on whether to join large services in a revolution. I can accept the fact that few people still understand the advantage of cryptocurrency. But for this, there are platforms like taklimakan this to teach more people how to use cryptocurrency as a means of trading and payments.
Yes, I agree. If you already get bonuses from tokens, it's cool when you can immediately spend them. I am not a very good trader, but I love it when coin can be used for shopping. 


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: uspetike on April 26, 2019, 08:03:07 AM
Wow, really cryptocurrency goes to e-commerce? What a news! I did not live to see it until this time when market leaders will pay attention to cryptocurrency. That should have been done a long time ago.
I do not know whether this is a proposal to switch to a new browser, but integration of cryptocurrency into large services will occur, I am sure of that. how quickly this happens depends on whether to join large services in a revolution. I can accept the fact that few people still understand the advantage of cryptocurrency. But for this, there are platforms like taklimakan this to teach more people how to use cryptocurrency as a means of trading and payments.
Yes, I agree. If you already get bonuses from tokens, it's cool when you can immediately spend them. I am not a very good trader, but I love it when coin can be used for shopping. 
there are still many scammers. But I hope that if Amazon joined the community and the Paypal also held payments through the crypt, then the day when everyone recognizes the importance of the blockchain is not far off. By the way, thanks for the site


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: gleilsonsilva on April 26, 2019, 08:09:08 AM
Wow, really cryptocurrency goes to e-commerce? What a news! I did not live to see it until this time when market leaders will pay attention to cryptocurrency. That should have been done a long time ago.
I do not know whether this is a proposal to switch to a new browser, but integration of cryptocurrency into large services will occur, I am sure of that. how quickly this happens depends on whether to join large services in a revolution. I can accept the fact that few people still understand the advantage of cryptocurrency. But for this, there are platforms like taklimakan this to teach more people how to use cryptocurrency as a means of trading and payments.
Yes, I agree. If you already get bonuses from tokens, it's cool when you can immediately spend them. I am not a very good trader, but I love it when coin can be used for shopping. 
I hope this will help reduce transaction costs. Debit cards are sometimes very voracious and take a lot of money for transfers.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: coinnumber on April 30, 2019, 03:33:26 PM
This is a nice development that will help cut the cost of transaction fee, make shopping on E-Commerce site simple as it will allow us to spend our coins well thereby increasing demand and popularity of cryptocurrencies however this has not been officially announced by Amazon for the authenticity of this information.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: TimeBits on April 30, 2019, 03:38:13 PM
You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning

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Bitcoin spenders can now use the lightning network to shop at e-commerce sites like Amazon.

Crypto payment processing startup Moon (https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-shop-with-bitcoin-on-amazon-using-lightning) announced today that any lightning-enabled wallet can now also be used through Moon’s browser extension. Before this lightning feature, roughly 250 beta users already used Moon to spend crypto on e-commerce sites by connecting the browser extension to exchange accounts like Coinbase.

To be clear, Amazon itself never touches bitcoin. Kruger declined to specify which traditional financial institutions are helping convert the bitcoin to fiat on the backend so that Amazon merchants actually receive fiat currency for their wares. However, Kruger added that by 2020 the lightning-enabled feature should work on almost any e-commerce site, regardless of whether that platform accepts bitcoin directly.

“There’s no direct merchant integration,” Kruger said, clarifying that Moon also manages payment channels and merely offers a simple interface for sending payments.


https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-shop-with-bitcoin-on-amazon-using-lightning


What are you thoughts about this one? Remember you have to download your browser's extension and then connects your wallet. And this what worry me most. As this could be another potential loopholes that hackers can exploit. And I assume that the fee's here will be high as well.

I also heard negative press about the people behind this company. So this is not an endorsement of any kind. Just wanted to brought this to the community. Always used your common sense.  ;D

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/auqrhf/psa_on_moon_browser_extension/




I was shopping on amazon with bitcoin in 2013, buy a gift card with bitcoin from gyft.....


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: Genemind on April 30, 2019, 06:37:24 PM
It's a new beginning for online businesses and merchants and even bitcoin users. It would be easy for us to purchase products in Amazon on our convenience. I just hope that there would be a low transaction fee since that's a struggle for most buyers. Let's see if it could affect the value of Bitcoin in the coming days.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: Anonylz on April 30, 2019, 06:45:52 PM
It is better to be safe than sorry, am not ready to subject or compromise my personal wallet information just because i want to shop online with btc when there is still fiat alternative that is well secured,
I would rather wait when there are better ways to make transactions securely, for now i will maintain using fiat till such a time when more secured options are available. But it is a great idea.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: Chikitita2004 on April 30, 2019, 06:50:04 PM
You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning

“To be clear, Amazon itself never touches bitcoin. Kruger declined to specify which traditional financial institutions are helping convert the bitcoin to fiat on the backend so that Amazon merchants actually receive fiat currency for their wares.“

Its quite suspecting. The name of the browser extension itself is not that well known, I wonder if there will be bitcoin holders that will trust this browser with their wallet details. Besides it says there that Amazon itself never touches bitcoin so in the event of conflict or problem, How can Amazon be responsible in solving it since its been stated already there that they are taking their hands off the matter?


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: teejayrichard2 on April 30, 2019, 10:48:21 PM
well I dont know how true this is because i have not heard anything about it yet but then it will be a very welcomed development since we all desire bitcoin to be used for all kinds of transaction.


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: blockchainwriters on May 01, 2019, 06:20:07 AM
Most awaited bitcoin payment system and that too in amazon with this integration we can expect more adoption with big companies and big merchants may happen in the  coming future


Title: Re: You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning
Post by: calandra78 on May 01, 2019, 07:03:38 AM
In any case, this is positive news, and we see how the market comes to life thanks to such news. I think this is a matter of time.
I am agree with you when said about this good for bitcoin market. such news to pump bitcoin price and they make it one for sell all they have bought and taken profit. amazon not accepted bitcoin, only third party where they do for all merchant like that.