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Title: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: Akash83 on April 23, 2019, 09:31:32 AM
The administration assumes an imperative job in the advancement of Bitcoin in a nation. For instance, an administration declares that it will acknowledge Bitcoin in that nation, so I'm certain the improvement of Bitcoin in that nation will be quick!
What do you think, the Government or the network who assume a critical job in the improvement of Bitcoin?


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: Beerwizzard on April 23, 2019, 10:00:28 AM
It doesn't really tell us anything outside of context. For example we remember Bitcoin Futures on CME. Everyone in crypto was excited about it but unfortunately, BTC futures became extremely unpopular and would probably be delisted from the exchange soon. So as we see if the government would be crypto friendly and allow people and organizations use cryptocurrencies it still doesn't mean that they would use it.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: Haunebu on April 23, 2019, 10:15:42 AM
So as we see if the government would be crypto friendly and allow people and organizations use cryptocurrencies it still doesn't mean that they would use it.
It will push adoption in a positive direction though which is what we are all hoping for. Governments have a huge role to play in the cryptocurrency market(Whether they actually come around to using it or not) whether people like it or not.

Just observe how the market rallied when Japan openly accepted cryptocurrencies. That was the first huge rally of 2017 which led to the insane rally during Dec 2017.



Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: dothebeats on April 23, 2019, 10:38:06 AM
It depends on what country are we talking about. Here in the Philippines, the development of regulations and legislation regarding bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies (which are aptly termed as 'digital currencies' by the SEC) has been somewhat warm and receiving, with just a few notices here and there regarding potential scams and other things related to money laundering and other illicit activities. While the spread of information regarding cryptocurrencies here is somewhat slow, the framework is being built, and rightfully so with the government and private entities cooperating with each other.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: bitbunnny on April 23, 2019, 10:50:19 AM
I think this is quite a big issue but it's different from country to country because each one has the different perspective and different approach to cryptocurrencies. Many governments have already started processes of regulation but no one can't predict how and when is this going to end. Still I beleive there will be some positive movements and at the end majority of countries will accept Bitcoin as inevitable part of our future and future of finances.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: Ailmand on April 23, 2019, 10:51:27 AM
It depends on what country are we talking about. Here in the Philippines, the development of regulations and legislation regarding bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies (which are aptly termed as 'digital currencies' by the SEC) has been somewhat warm and receiving, with just a few notices here and there regarding potential scams and other things related to money laundering and other illicit activities. While the spread of information regarding cryptocurrencies here is somewhat slow, the framework is being built, and rightfully so with the government and private entities cooperating with each other.

True, it is really good how Philippines government is viewing cryptocurrency in a neutral way. Mostly in Philippines, a lot of people are using bitcoin as a tool for sending money, goods, or transacting p2p. The government is also being critical and strict when it comes to companies which uses crtprocurrency to attract investors since a lot of people had been involved and victim of scam recently.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: Erickan on April 23, 2019, 12:08:52 PM
Government is one of the decisive factors for the development of bitcoin. It can be said that bitcoin is the first decentralized money in the world, but if it wants to grow and be widely accepted, it must receive government support. Depending on the policy each country will have its own rules about bitcoin, but the good thing is that many governments are starting to support bitcoin now.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: Bitinity on April 23, 2019, 12:32:46 PM
It doesn't really tell us anything outside of context. For example we remember Bitcoin Futures on CME. Everyone in crypto was excited about it but unfortunately, BTC futures became extremely unpopular and would probably be delisted from the exchange soon. So as we see if the government would be crypto friendly and allow people and organizations use cryptocurrencies it still doesn't mean that they would use it.

At least it gives freedom for people to use crypto as they wish once the government is becoming more crypto friendly. I believe it will bring more adoption and the "Bitcoin Futures" on CME wont happen in the future.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: alisafidel58 on April 23, 2019, 12:57:04 PM
It doesn't really tell us anything outside of context. For example we remember Bitcoin Futures on CME. Everyone in crypto was excited about it but unfortunately, BTC futures became extremely unpopular and would probably be delisted from the exchange soon. So as we see if the government would be crypto friendly and allow people and organizations use cryptocurrencies it still doesn't mean that they would use it.

At least they have the alternative to use crypto as a source of payment or an asset that they can have. Majority of the citizen wouldn't know how to use crypto but certainly, there are the maginalized group of people who are using it and is wishing that crypto wouldn't be a ban on their country. Like in China where they are implementing a strict measure towards crypto and yet there are many Chinese people who use and trade crypto on a daily basis.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: BrewMaster on April 23, 2019, 01:00:39 PM
...in the improvement of Bitcoin?

what you are talking about is "adoption of bitcoin" which has nothing to do with "improvement of bitcoin". these two are complete different things.

and the answer is obviously yes! in a society that every business and service is regulated and is functioning according to the laws, obviously bitcoin adoption is going to be hastened if the "law" is positive towards bitcoin.
we have already seen many examples of it, like the 2017 regulations in Japan which contributed greatly to the rise towards $20k and that was just a small sign of mass adoption.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: marycrazy08 on April 23, 2019, 01:11:49 PM
it is huge but the thing here is that, the score is too wide to cover.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: franky1 on April 23, 2019, 02:16:10 PM
The administration assumes an imperative job in the advancement of Bitcoin in a nation. For instance, an administration declares that it will acknowledge Bitcoin in that nation, so I'm certain the improvement of Bitcoin in that nation will be quick!
What do you think, the Government or the network who assume a critical job in the improvement of Bitcoin?

government regulations do not help
1. regulations are just a shiny sherrifs badge given to COMPANIES so that they can police their customers. its the fake aura of trust that this sherrifs badge gives that mistakenly makes people throw money at the companies. but reality shows that these companies are just as scammy as unregulated companies.
take enron
take the 2007 financial crises
take the 2008 credit crises
take how HSBC laundered billions but was fined only pennies on the dollar

2. other examples of regulations not helping. even though the 'war on drugs' has relaxed against cannabis in many american states, guess what. banks still dont want to serve cannabis businesses even when the business is now considered 'legal'

3. other examples of when prohibition does not remove utility(the opposite to legalisation). a century ago alcohol who prohibited in america. but guess what people still got drunk. drugs have been prohibited for decades-centuries but people still get high.

all in all nations regulations are meaningless and just give a faint shroud of 'trust' / legitimacy


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: avikz on April 23, 2019, 03:28:56 PM
The administration assumes an imperative job in the advancement of Bitcoin in a nation. For instance, an administration declares that it will acknowledge Bitcoin in that nation, so I'm certain the improvement of Bitcoin in that nation will be quick!
What do you think, the Government or the network who assume a critical job in the improvement of Bitcoin?

It's a very generic question! What kind of improvement your referring here?

When you talk about legislation, I don't see any role of network here. The legislative structure of anything within a country is a job of the resident policy makers! The crypto network doesn't come in picture! They can mostly help in creating a hype to force the ignorant law makers to listen to the community!

If you are talking about technical improvement, then only the network comes into picture where law markers have no control. So both type of improvements have different owners and stakeholders as you see!


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: gilangIDR on April 23, 2019, 03:35:17 PM
The administration assumes an imperative job in the advancement of Bitcoin in a nation. For instance, an administration declares that it will acknowledge Bitcoin in that nation, so I'm certain the improvement of Bitcoin in that nation will be quick!
What do you think, the Government or the network who assume a critical job in the improvement of Bitcoin?
The increase in Bitcoin is very necessary, because Bitcoin is still developing without clear direction. While the role and support of the government, Bitcoin will be much better and will have a clear direction. The government's active role is very important, although I know the reason is that the government has not been able to accept the rapid fluctuations in Bitcoin prices. Even though when there is a regulation, it is likely that Bitcoin can have good stability.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: Beerwizzard on April 23, 2019, 04:41:19 PM
So as we see if the government would be crypto friendly and allow people and organizations use cryptocurrencies it still doesn't mean that they would use it.
It will push adoption in a positive direction though which is what we are all hoping for. Governments have a huge role to play in the cryptocurrency market(Whether they actually come around to using it or not) whether people like it or not.

Just observe how the market rallied when Japan openly accepted cryptocurrencies. That was the first huge rally of 2017 which led to the insane rally during Dec 2017.


Imagine that there are some people that don't use crypto simply because they don't need it. Then their government allows them to use crypto! And guess what? They won't start using crypto simply because they still don't need it.

It doesn't really tell us anything outside of context. For example we remember Bitcoin Futures on CME. Everyone in crypto was excited about it but unfortunately, BTC futures became extremely unpopular and would probably be delisted from the exchange soon. So as we see if the government would be crypto friendly and allow people and organizations use cryptocurrencies it still doesn't mean that they would use it.

At least it gives freedom for people to use crypto as they wish once the government is becoming more crypto friendly. I believe it will bring more adoption and the "Bitcoin Futures" on CME wont happen in the future.

Even now they are free to use crypto. No one is getting jailed for that. Crypto related services are working in countries, where cryptocurrencies are not mentioned in the law at all.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: Yakamoto on April 23, 2019, 05:05:44 PM
The administration assumes an imperative job in the advancement of Bitcoin in a nation. For instance, an administration declares that it will acknowledge Bitcoin in that nation, so I'm certain the improvement of Bitcoin in that nation will be quick!
What do you think, the Government or the network who assume a critical job in the improvement of Bitcoin?
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Frank is absolutely spot-on when describing why regulation and legislation is not a benefit for Bitcoin. Legislation is (often) just a way to prevent competitors from entering a market by adding so much red tape and paperwork that new companies don't have the army of lawyers required to comply. His examples of companies that do shady and unethical actions and then proceeding to be rewarded for it, or a slap on the wrist at worst, is another perfect example of why legislation is broken.

Now, personally, I can't see any sort of regulation benefitting Bitcoin. We already have various systems in place that "regulate" commerce, such as the trust system within Bitcoin Talk, as well as trust and reputation in general. There are some shortfalls for this system, however, it is a relatively solid means of conducting commerce.

Governments also only know how to ruin stuff. I wouldn't trust a government to regulate internal commerce effectively let alone something that has no borders and a decentralized community.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: vv181 on April 23, 2019, 06:06:25 PM
The nature of Bitcoin improvements relies on the community, it is a decentralized currency and open source software. Governments as a centralized entity rarely significantly contribute to the ecosystem and the network, I mean the decision. It is indeed governments regulation could help the adoption process a little bit helped. But the nature of Bitcoin and history shows it does not need any promotion and regulation to be widely known and accepted.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: gentlemand on April 23, 2019, 06:18:17 PM
There is not and cannot be any regulation of Bitcoin itself. There certainly can be plenty about how custodial parties handle it and how it interacts with other areas.

The most useful thing legislators can do is remove uncertainty. There may well be a lot of pent up potential waiting for confirmation that what they get up to won't be nailed. Until all question marks are removed most won't bother risking the time, money and effort to look deeper.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: LeGaulois on April 23, 2019, 06:27:11 PM
Everything is to be done and nothing is built and I can tell you that there is still a lot of work to do on this side. Some countries are getting further ahead than others, but sooner or later all countries will do something. Countries don't have the same politic priorities.

One of the problems is the way Bitcoin is considered. Indeed in some countries, it can be considered as a currency while in another country it is considered as a banal investment. This, in the long term, could not only harm cryptos (but hey people asked for regulations so here we go) but companies could also prefer other countries to set up shop.

It could create an inconsistency in the BTC system. The good thing is we don't need legislations to use Bitcoin.



Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: monalia on April 23, 2019, 06:34:03 PM
The administration assumes an imperative job in the advancement of Bitcoin in a nation. For instance, an administration declares that it will acknowledge Bitcoin in that nation, so I'm certain the improvement of Bitcoin in that nation will be quick!
What do you think, the Government or the network who assume a critical job in the improvement of Bitcoin?

Which nation you are taking about? Many countries have plan to implement the blockchain technology and all the administration can be handled with data chain which can connect with this technology only.
There are people suggesting to implement e governance and countries like Estonia, Japan and all taking action to implement it and experience it. Let's see who is next on it.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: kaya11 on April 24, 2019, 04:38:04 AM
Improvement in what? in price or something else like adaption? We already acknowledge Bitcoin as payment here in our country, the thing that it is not banned across our nation is one the proofs it is acknowledge. Well if it isn't they would jail people who have BTC and other crypto currencies including me. My accounts and my other fellow country men our open in the public, you see we follow rules here, submitting KYC procedures to prove we are not doing anything wrong. It is very important that the government supports Bitcoin and it's technology, but if you say the government should declare Bitcoin as the currency will be used in the country then it could probably start a civil war here.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: qwertyup23 on April 24, 2019, 04:37:18 PM
It depends on what country are we talking about. Here in the Philippines, the development of regulations and legislation regarding bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies (which are aptly termed as 'digital currencies' by the SEC) has been somewhat warm and receiving, with just a few notices here and there regarding potential scams and other things related to money laundering and other illicit activities. While the spread of information regarding cryptocurrencies here is somewhat slow, the framework is being built, and rightfully so with the government and private entities cooperating with each other.

My colleague actually interviewed the representative lawyer in BSP (Central Bank) and asked questions regarding cryptocurrency. They mentioned that the government does not view bitcoin as a threat but only cautions investors regarding it. But our government does not view bitcoin as legal tender, thus cannot be used as a payment for debts, etc.

In terms of tax, bitcoin mining falls under the category of "other source of income" which is then taxable accordingly to our laws.



Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: DreamStage on April 24, 2019, 05:47:14 PM
Sometimes it's a matter of politics rather than legislature.
If the legislature toughts combination is not agreeable with everything then it doesn't comes forward and that's the reason why most of countries have issues on trying to regulate Bitcoin.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: magneto on April 25, 2019, 10:41:17 PM
The administration assumes an imperative job in the advancement of Bitcoin in a nation. For instance, an administration declares that it will acknowledge Bitcoin in that nation, so I'm certain the improvement of Bitcoin in that nation will be quick!
What do you think, the Government or the network who assume a critical job in the improvement of Bitcoin?

If there are positive legislations implemented in a particular nation, then it would be no surprise if bitcoin activity surges within that region because it essentially incentivises bitcoin businesses to set up shop within their jurisdiction to take advantage of the positive legislations.

However, as to the actual improvement of bitcoin, I really don't think that legislations are going to do much. Development isn't dependent on a government agency co-operating or stuff like that.

If you're talking about the other end of the spectrum where governments can choose to ban bitcoin, then again, businesses are what is going to be affected, not bitcoin itself, since it is decentralised.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: Snaic on April 26, 2019, 05:12:44 AM
The administration assumes an imperative job in the advancement of Bitcoin in a nation. For instance, an administration declares that it will acknowledge Bitcoin in that nation, so I'm certain the improvement of Bitcoin in that nation will be quick!
What do you think, the Government or the network who assume a critical job in the improvement of Bitcoin?
The existence of a cryptocurrency on its territory is unprofitable for any state as a whole, since the cryptocurrency is not yet fully understood and presents a lot of risk for the state. States can and will allow the circulation of cryptocurrency on its territory, given the great interest of citizens in it, however, they will never actively support a decentralized cryptocurrency. States will only support their own currency, that is, what they can fully control. This is quite logical and logical. Cryptocurrency will be introduced into our life only through the interest of people in it.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: Kakmakr on April 26, 2019, 06:08:35 AM
The government can have a big impact on the direction that Bitcoin follows in the future. They can over regulate it to make it difficult for Bitcoin to flourish, like what happened with the BitLicense fiasco OR they can take Japan's approach and just apply the necessary regulations to stimulate innovation and increase job opportunities and increased taxes.

It all depends on their agenda and how protective they want to be to protect their reserve currency and access to their economy. Governments use regulations to create a barrier to entry for some people to go forward in life. <Poor & Dumb people are easier to manipulate>  >:(


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: BitcoinPanther on April 26, 2019, 12:03:25 PM
What do you think, the Government or the network who assume a critical job in the improvement of Bitcoin?

I think  Government is very critical for adoption once Bitcoin is accepted warmly.   It will give way for Bitcoin to be openly accepted by merchants and masses.  Government acceptance will also remove doubt and hesitation of people.

The existence of a cryptocurrency on its territory is unprofitable for any state as a whole,

I do not think it is not profitable.  Imagine crypto start up booming in a country, it will create jobs for its citizen.  Investors and capitalist taking advantage of the technology and setting up companies would greatly improve the states revenue in form of taxes and gives opportunity to those jobless that are qualified for the job.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: Argoo on April 26, 2019, 08:49:49 PM
Of course, the role of the state and its legislative power in relation to the development of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency is very significant. If the state does not support cryptocurrency and it remains not legalized, the infrastructure for using Bitcoin as a means of payment will not develop. She will remain at the level of her circulation between citizens.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: yesyes18 on April 26, 2019, 08:57:38 PM
It is a very simple thing to do in my perspective. They have to do just one thing: that's to accept that Bitcoin is money. With that, many of the monetary policies will apply and we're all going to have a nice time. But there's one unfortunate thing making it a difficult job for them, and that is that they are finding it very difficult to accept that Bitcoin is money. But for that, everything would've been awesome.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: Argoo on May 13, 2019, 05:11:36 AM
The administration assumes an imperative job in the advancement of Bitcoin in a nation. For instance, an administration declares that it will acknowledge Bitcoin in that nation, so I'm certain the improvement of Bitcoin in that nation will be quick!
What do you think, the Government or the network who assume a critical job in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Governments will never have anything to do with Bitcoin improvements. They can only allow it to circulate on their territory, but they will never actively support the decentralized cryptocurrency. In general, governments are not interested in the development of decentralized cryptocurrency.
However, for the further development of Bitcoin, it is necessary that the states legalize cryptocurrency. Only after that can it actively develop as a means of payment.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: laids201905 on May 13, 2019, 05:31:43 AM
The administration assumes an imperative job in the advancement of Bitcoin in a nation. For instance, an administration declares that it will acknowledge Bitcoin in that nation, so I'm certain the improvement of Bitcoin in that nation will be quick!
What do you think, the Government or the network who assume a critical job in the improvement of Bitcoin?
I think most countries are cautious about Bitcoin and it is difficult to introduce policies.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: recaph on May 13, 2019, 05:05:35 PM
It seems to me rather strange when the government does not come to an agreement that it is time to regulate the status of cryptocurrency. After all, they see the process of their distribution is taking long strides. And a matter of time when cryptocurrencies will become massive.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: rpnzla on May 13, 2019, 05:10:23 PM
It seems to me rather strange when the government does not come to an agreement that it is time to regulate the status of cryptocurrency. After all, they see the process of their distribution is taking long strides. And a matter of time when cryptocurrencies will become massive.
I think we r on the way. Of course, a lot of work is up to do, but many countries accept btc as a payment method. So not so far to succeed. But most of ppl just don’t want to understand the power of crypto, it’s a pity


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: jonesst on May 13, 2019, 05:18:09 PM
It seems to me rather strange when the government does not come to an agreement that it is time to regulate the status of cryptocurrency. After all, they see the process of their distribution is taking long strides. And a matter of time when cryptocurrencies will become massive.
I think we r on the way. Of course, a lot of work is up to do, but many countries accept btc as a payment method. So not so far to succeed. But most of ppl just don’t want to understand the power of crypto, it’s a pity
Cryptocurrencies will not only have to adapt, but look for ways, how to come to greater legalization. But it takes time for positive changes to pick up pace. Including it is necessary that more people get an understanding of the benefits that cryptocurrency and blockchain technologies can bring.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: scoobydo70 on May 13, 2019, 05:24:58 PM
It seems to me rather strange when the government does not come to an agreement that it is time to regulate the status of cryptocurrency. After all, they see the process of their distribution is taking long strides. And a matter of time when cryptocurrencies will become massive.
I think we r on the way. Of course, a lot of work is up to do, but many countries accept btc as a payment method. So not so far to succeed. But most of ppl just don’t want to understand the power of crypto, it’s a pity
Cryptocurrencies will not only have to adapt, but look for ways, how to come to greater legalization. But it takes time for positive changes to pick up pace. Including it is necessary that more people get an understanding of the benefits that cryptocurrency and blockchain technologies can bring.
I agree, so far the Internet is full of articles that confuse people more than help to deal with cryptocurrencies. But recently, a taklimakan project appeared, where there is a selection of training materials and articles for those who want to understand the basic concepts of a cryptocurrency market and investment, or want to get more in-depth training.


Title: Re: How huge is the job of the legislature in the improvement of Bitcoin?
Post by: jonesst on May 13, 2019, 05:36:45 PM
It seems to me rather strange when the government does not come to an agreement that it is time to regulate the status of cryptocurrency. After all, they see the process of their distribution is taking long strides. And a matter of time when cryptocurrencies will become massive.
I think we r on the way. Of course, a lot of work is up to do, but many countries accept btc as a payment method. So not so far to succeed. But most of ppl just don’t want to understand the power of crypto, it’s a pity
Cryptocurrencies will not only have to adapt, but look for ways, how to come to greater legalization. But it takes time for positive changes to pick up pace. Including it is necessary that more people get an understanding of the benefits that cryptocurrency and blockchain technologies can bring.
I agree, so far the Internet is full of articles that confuse people more than help to deal with cryptocurrencies. But recently, a taklimakan project appeared, where there is a selection of training materials and articles for those who want to understand the basic concepts of a cryptocurrency market and investment, or want to get more in-depth training.
I will not say that I am experiencing severe difficulties in understanding all the processes in the market, but you have intrigued me. You will need to visit the site and see what they offer for beginners in our common business of distributing cryptocurrencies around the world, haha