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Title: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: DireWolfM14 on April 26, 2019, 02:39:44 AM
News is breaking about several subjects which point to the deep corruption that plagued the top ranks of our government.  The Obama administration will be known as the most corrupt presidency in the history of our country.  We saw signs during those years; Fast and Furious, Benghazi, the email server in the bathroom, the NSA and how they villainized Snowden.  But we kept sweeping it under the rug, pretending these were merely mistakes or policy blunders.  

The mistakes were when the administration allowed these issues to become publicly known, and when we didn't press the Republicans in congress to dig deeper.  The Obama administration filled the FBI and the CIA with partisan sycophants, and then used them to spy on Americans.  They spied on a Presidential candidate, and the President Elect.  The gears Obama engaged continued to churn for two years.  That's how ingrained and deeply rooted was the corruption.

The main stream media has shown themselves to have been complicit, if not accessory.  To this day they continue to omit from their programming what they would rather we did not know.  If they do report on a story which makes Democrats look bad, it's actually about how absurdly Trump reacted to the story.

The Republicans don't get a pass from me.  They sat their with their majority for years and did nothing.  Were they complicit?  Were they accessory?  What the fuck was Paul Ryan up to, exactly?  Lets find out.

I don't care how you feel about Trump, Democrats, Republicans or Whigs.  Pretend for a minute the Republican in The White House is Lincoln.  You like Lincoln, right?  What if it was Lincoln who was subject to these outrageous abuses of power?  What if it was Nixon who was responsible?  How would you feel?

If you're not outraged you're not paying attention.


Joe Biden admitting he bribed the Ukrainians to stop the prosecution of his son:
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived

Page and Strzok texts show the FBI tried to "develop relationships" with Trumps team, after he won:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/strzok-page-texts-suggested-using-post-election-briefing-information-trump-team

Ukrainians claim to have evidence their previous administration colluded with the Clinton campaign:
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/437719-ukrainian-to-us-prosecutors-why-dont-you-want-our-evidence-on-democrats


Title: Re: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on April 26, 2019, 07:22:15 AM
The Obama administration will be known as the administration with zero scandals.

All of the major institutions that can create a narrative share an ideology friendly to Obama -- most of the Press, most of higher education, Hollywood.

What actually happened, or the truth does not matter.


Title: Re: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: TECSHARE on April 26, 2019, 08:46:01 AM
A lot of people in both parties are about to be exposed, tried, and convicted.


Title: Re: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: sheenshane on April 26, 2019, 04:20:05 PM
Even though we can prove that corruption is there, we will not be able to do something about it. Corruption is always tied with the government and nothing will change that. Power, greed and wealth. Those are the things the government can possess with their positions.
Another reason why corruption is always there is that the oligarchies actually invested with the people who are running for candidacy and will later ask for the ROI and interest.

The fact is corruption was always there even everywhere in the country, but they will not long last.


Title: Re: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: Beerwizzard on April 27, 2019, 06:59:24 PM
The Obama administration will be known as the administration with zero scandals.
Vote for democrats if you don't want them to make scandals. If democrats are in charge then everything is calm.
It seems like a kind of political blackmail.

The other thing is that the America is the main ruling power in our world. American elites are the most powerful in the world. And when you are the strongest then you are the one who chose what is a law and what is corruption. Both inside and outside of a country.


Title: Re: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: Spendulus on April 27, 2019, 08:18:25 PM
The Obama administration will be known as the administration with zero scandals.
"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

All of the major institutions that can create a narrative share an ideology friendly to Obama -- most of the Press, most of higher education, Hollywood.
Private email servers.

What actually happened, or the truth does not matter.
Bengazi.

Vote for democrats if you don't want them to make scandals....
Kavanaugh.

...If democrats are in charge then everything is calm....
Covington.





Title: Re: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: omonuyak on April 30, 2019, 10:30:34 AM
After go through this report I think it is bad that those elected to lead us are playing games with us like this.  The world is full of corrupt leader and that is why we are finding it difficult to have peace as there are ready to do more evils to cover their evil did.  God help us.


Title: Re: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: Spendulus on April 30, 2019, 12:05:23 PM
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The main stream media has shown themselves to have been complicit, if not accessory.  To this day they continue to omit from their programming what they would rather we did not know.  If they do report on a story which makes Democrats look bad, it's actually about how absurdly Trump reacted to the story.

The Republicans don't get a pass from me.  They sat their with their majority for years and did nothing.  Were they complicit?  Were they accessory?  What the fuck was Paul Ryan up to, exactly?  Lets find out......


There did seem to be some remarkable duplicity from Paul Ryan. But I am not aware of anything there that rises to the level of criminal conduct.

The do-nothingness of the Repub did seem very odd, but could have been due to the lack of a Repub leader. Remember the old rule "Divide and Conquer?" Obama et. al. had the repubs divided into Tea Party Conservatives, and "Real Repubs." Ryan tried to bridge that gap, albeit poorly.

And then there was Trump.


Title: Re: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: okala on April 30, 2019, 02:26:23 PM
There have been corruption in every administration in the American government, despite the available facts and evidence there have not been any one probe and convicted. The world is suffering from widespread corruption and Obama administration is not an exemption.


Title: Re: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: DireWolfM14 on April 30, 2019, 03:20:20 PM
The do-nothingness of the Repub did seem very odd, but could have been due to the lack of a Repub leader. Remember the old rule "Divide and Conquer?" Obama et. al. had the repubs divided into Tea Party Conservatives, and "Real Repubs." Ryan tried to bridge that gap, albeit poorly.

And then there was Trump.

A lot of the Republicans were (are still) appalled by Trumps nomination, because Trump isn't a true Republican (my opinion.)  He's definitely conservative, but he doesn't toe The Party line.  We're now seeing the light shine on the corruption of the Democrats, but the swamp is just as full of corrupt Republicans.  Those ingrained Washington insiders are scared shitless right now, as they should be.  They need to be constantly scared.  The more scared they are the better off America will be.

It's funny you mentioned the division in the Republican party during Obama's term, we're seeing a similar phenomenon with real Democrats and the Democratic Socialists.  They are dividing themselves and that's going to be their downfall in 2020.  Just like the Republicans shot themselves in the foot in 2012.



Title: Re: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: Spendulus on May 03, 2019, 01:55:18 AM
The do-nothingness of the Repub did seem very odd, but could have been due to the lack of a Repub leader. Remember the old rule "Divide and Conquer?" Obama et. al. had the repubs divided into Tea Party Conservatives, and "Real Repubs." Ryan tried to bridge that gap, albeit poorly.

And then there was Trump.

A lot of the Republicans were (are still) appalled by Trumps nomination, because Trump isn't a true Republican (my opinion.)  He's definitely conservative, but he doesn't toe The Party line.  We're now seeing the light shine on the corruption of the Democrats, but the swamp is just as full of corrupt Republicans.  Those ingrained Washington insiders are scared shitless right now, as they should be.  They need to be constantly scared.  The more scared they are the better off America will be.

It's funny you mentioned the division in the Republican party during Obama's term, we're seeing a similar phenomenon with real Democrats and the Democratic Socialists.  They are dividing themselves and that's going to be their downfall in 2020.  Just like the Republicans shot themselves in the foot in 2012.


This is true. If the Dems did okay with a "divide and conquer" strategy, Trump is a world class master at it.


Title: Re: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: FFrankie on May 03, 2019, 02:07:06 AM
When you own the judges and the jury you don't go to jail, they will either all be tried and found guilty and than exonerated by Trump, or nothing will happen at all. But to think that our government is corrupt that is like saying our police could be  :o


Title: Re: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: Spendulus on May 03, 2019, 02:30:28 AM
When you own the judges and the jury you don't go to jail, they will either all be tried and found guilty and than exonerated by Trump, or nothing will happen at all. But to think that our government is corrupt that is like saying our police could be  :o

I can only think of one one cop that I have run into that impressed me as being corrupt. Could be wrong on that, probably not.

The vast majority were outstanding people, very honest. It certainly could be different in differing parts of the USA and certainly different parts of the world.

So sure, some in the government of the USA are corrupt. But right now a fair number seem to have been dragged into a corrupt direction by Hillar/Obama...


Title: Re: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: r1s2g3 on May 03, 2019, 03:43:56 PM
I guess it is political degradation of the system. Unfortunately when in election if you get two bad choices then you have only two option i) choose any one of the bad choice ii) Do not take part in election

I think a option like "none of these" is needed so that politician get the correct feedback.


Title: Re: Corruption in The White House.
Post by: DireWolfM14 on May 03, 2019, 05:10:41 PM
I guess it is political degradation of the system. Unfortunately when in election if you get two bad choices then you have only two option i) choose any one of the bad choice ii) Do not take part in election

I think a option like "none of these" is needed so that politician get the correct feedback.

There's always the option to write-in the name of your own choice.  I wrote Ron Paul's name on many ballots.  Not that it would have made a difference, but it's not capitulating to the pressure of choosing the lessor of the two evils.