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Title: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange Listing proposals !!
Post by: cryptobenn on April 29, 2019, 11:50:29 AM
WARNING for those who applied to list on DIGIFINEX, and receive an email from support@digifinex.com with payment instructions !!

The FREE coin did apply to be listed on DigiFinex.

We received an email from the official DigiFinex email address support@digifinex.com that we were accepted, together with the payment instructions for the listing fee.

1 day after the payment of the listing fee we were informed by support@digifinex.com that they did not sent the original email, and that we would not be listed ...

When we tried to get more info from Digifinex to fully understand what happened, they no longer reacted to our emails and telegram messages ?

So be very carefull in the listing process on Digifinex. Getting confirmation emails from their official email account is no guarantee.

It remains unclear for us if this was an "inside job" at DigiFinex, or the work of a scammer not related to DigiFinex. The fact that DigiFinex does not want to exchange info about it, is frustrating and strange.





Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: ryzaadit on April 29, 2019, 04:19:36 PM
Would you share some screenshot between you and DigiFinex, Just want to be more objective about your problem with DigiFinex so everyone knows you really contact the real DigiFinex, not a phishing site.

Also based on your reputation @nutildah tag you "FREE Coin its a scam coin". I bet a reputation exchange will never list a scam coins/token.


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on April 29, 2019, 09:52:52 PM
OP, please follow the report format mention in the sticky in this board if you want to be helped by member.
You stated your problem but its not clear enough to tell what happened;

This is a sample of the report format:
Code:
[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: cryptobenn on May 02, 2019, 04:18:21 PM
Would you share some screenshot between you and DigiFinex, Just want to be more objective about your problem with DigiFinex so everyone knows you really contact the real DigiFinex, not a phishing site.

Also based on your reputation @nutildah tag you "FREE Coin its a scam coin". I bet a reputation exchange will never list a scam coins/token.


It is not because Nutildah thinks that the free coin is a scam coin, that we are a scam coin.... Behind a keyboard everyone consider himself very powerful, especially when they can criticise other projects. We are listed on Quality Exchanges such as LATOKEN, MERCATOX, STEX, ... (check our website, we are listed on 25 exchanges in 1 year time)

Some emails :


Van: DigiFinex - Crypto Assets Exchange <team@digifinex.com>
Verzonden: zaterdag 27 april 2019 18:18
Aan: FREEdom Coin FREE Crypto Limited <info@freecoin.technology>
Onderwerp: Listing FREE on DigiFinex exchange

Hello team,
This is Emma from DigiFinex.com - TOP 5 crypto exchange with over 1B daily volume.
Our team is researching for new coins and tokens for listing on our exchange and we would like to propose adding FREE asset for trading on our platform.
We offer listing against BTC, ETH and USDT pairs.
If you are interested in proceeding further please reach me on Telegram @emyoung so I can provide you some more information about the listing.  

Looking forward to cooperating with you.


Warm regards,
Emma Young
DigiFinex business development

 



Van: DigiFinex support team <support@digifinex.com>
Verzonden: zondag 28 april 2019 13:18
Aan: FREEdom Coin FREE Crypto Limited <info@freecoin.technology>
Onderwerp: [Approval] FREE on DigiFinex exchange

Hello team,
We have reviewed technical information provided for listing FREE and we would like to confirm that your asset has been approved for integration and launch on our platform.

Listing of FREE will be launched on May 1st, 2019 at 12:00 GMT (or on other date specified by you) on USDT trading pair.

In order for us to proceed with integration process please forward 2 BTC listing fee to:
BTC address:
1DqFQ6NBeZwor8SSrgyteDDAGXt8LHQLzP

For further cooperation please get in touch with Emma on Telegram directly @emyoung so you can finalise the listing process.

Looking forward to have FREE on board.

Warm regards,
DigiFinex support team
 





Digifinex refused to react to our questions if this was an external scammer, or could be an inside job. No reactions on email, twitter, telegram, ... contacts


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on May 03, 2019, 05:00:05 PM
-Snip-
Mate, screenshots would be much better rather than texts.
Nobody is going to believe texts but at least screenshots of the email messages can help to some extent.

And also follow the format of scam report writing which I suggested to you earlier on if you want members to help you. Including it in the OP would be very much welcome.


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: cryptobenn on May 03, 2019, 06:34:05 PM
I did not create this topic in "scam accusations" - I was moved here by a moderator I assume ?

I do not intend to attack DigiFinex directly, I simply want to warn about a scam ongoing with Digifinex listings.

It is very well possible that nobody of DigiFinex is involved, I simply want to warn other projects to avoid they are scammed with an identical message .

I am not looking for help, just want to warn about this "Emma Young" that is trying to trap projects in his/her listing fraude.


PRINTSCREENS OF THE EMAILS : see following links :


https://static.wixstatic.com/media/a3b41a_b4b8c6ba9fa942a68a1bd428f5d4f1cb~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_750,h_431,al_c,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/Digifinex1_JPG.webp


https://static.wixstatic.com/media/a3b41a_7704b96dcdb445448c692e1f8970db61~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_750,h_488,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/Digifinex2_JPG.webp


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: Slow death on May 03, 2019, 08:03:28 PM
no offense, but what is the purpose of your altcoin?

Why would someone use your altcoin?

I do not see any reason that is relevant to your altcoin's existence.

About your problem, how much did you pay? and show proof

This is the profile of the person you are accusing: @Connie babay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=936109)


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on May 03, 2019, 10:35:17 PM
I simply want to warn other projects to avoid they are scammed with an identical message .

I am not looking for help, just want to warn about this "Emma Young" that is trying to trap projects in his/her listing fraude.
It's simply the purpose of a scam accusation, to warn other people about a fraudulent project or company or person in the forum.
It's better to be point-blank on digifinex rather than seeming doubtful according to your statements.

If you paid money, you never breached any terms of services and nothing was offered to you then it was an outright scam and there for you can make it clear to the members rather than say "I do not intend to attack DigiFinex directly"


Quoting images for visibility

So which email do they claim is their official Email?
The message all seem so shady, what kind of exchange conducts listing business through telegram?


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: cryptobenn on May 04, 2019, 04:23:20 PM

well, most exchanges we are on (25 in total) finalized the negotiation via telegram.

support@digifinex.Com is identified as their official email on the Digifinex website.


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on May 04, 2019, 05:09:57 PM

well, most exchanges we are on (25 in total) finalized the negotiation via telegram.

support@digifinex.Com is identified as their official email on the Digifinex website.
Well that's new to me, maybe probably because i left telegram a while back. I thought that most of them use emails and some forms to negotiation and finalizing deals since scammers seem to be lurking so much in telegram (as far as i remember)

Sorry for asking you too many questions: I am just trying to understand how it all started.
I am seeing to emails in your post so how does team@digifinex.com come in?


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: bitbollo on May 04, 2019, 06:09:11 PM
I did not create this topic in "scam accusations" - I was moved here by a moderator I assume ?

I do not intend to attack DigiFinex directly, I simply want to warn about a scam ongoing with Digifinex listings.

It is very well possible that nobody of DigiFinex is involved, I simply want to warn other projects to avoid they are scammed with an identical message .

I am not looking for help, just want to warn about this "Emma Young" that is trying to trap projects in his/her listing fraude.


PRINTSCREENS OF THE EMAILS : see following links :


https://static.wixstatic.com/media/a3b41a_b4b8c6ba9fa942a68a1bd428f5d4f1cb~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_750,h_431,al_c,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/Digifinex1_JPG.webp


https://static.wixstatic.com/media/a3b41a_7704b96dcdb445448c692e1f8970db61~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_750,h_488,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/Digifinex2_JPG.webp

LOL :D
Look better these printout, and zoom... Look the F on email address "...@digiFinex"
it's a fake F doesn't belong to the real address.
OP love to waste our time or maybe he was scammed and then just to not admit the fact he create these useless scam accusations/topic about.
http://i68.tinypic.com/nb44l0.png
http://i68.tinypic.com/vqqukj.png
PS. ok you don't want accuse anyone but lookout the name of your topic:
WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: cryptobenn on May 05, 2019, 06:16:21 PM

well, most exchanges we are on (25 in total) finalized the negotiation via telegram.

support@digifinex.Com is identified as their official email on the Digifinex website.
Well that's new to me, maybe probably because i left telegram a while back. I thought that most of them use emails and some forms to negotiation and finalizing deals since scammers seem to be lurking so much in telegram (as far as i remember)

Sorry for asking you too many questions: I am just trying to understand how it all started.
I am seeing to emails in your post so how does team@digifinex.com come in?


team@digifinex was the sender of the first email we received


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange Listing requests !!
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on May 05, 2019, 10:06:07 PM
Mate if I have followed your story correctly, I think you got scammed by a person claiming to be from digifinex.

I think someone used your project's email and set you a fake email asking you to pay so that you get listed.
I just checked digifinex, and they have a different procedure for listing coins

- Did you check here? https://www.digifinex.com/en-ww/listing#currency
If you did then you would have been able to download a listing form which has a very different email address from the ones you are talking about;

https://i.imgur.com/mAZSp0a.png

Also, I haven't seen anywhere where they say you contact @emyoung on telegram both on the website and form.


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: cryptobenn on May 06, 2019, 08:43:00 PM
It is not because Nutildah thinks that the free coin is a scam coin, that we are a scam coin.... Behind a keyboard everyone consider himself very powerful, especially when they can criticise other projects.



https://coinclarity.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/free-price-evolution-1024x627.jpg



Hi Nutildah, our favorite troll attacking every posting about the FREE coin :)

About the prices :
1) we realized the price target for 2018
2) for 2019 we will certainly realize the price target in ETH, the price evolution of ETH itself will determine if we will realize the price target in USD ...

We estimate we are progressing as we hoped at start :)



Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange Listing requests !!
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on May 06, 2019, 09:45:12 PM
Mate, you still haven't responded to me.
I am trying to understand the kind of the trick the scammer uses to scam people.

Now I see your agenda has changed and you are now just advertising your coin.


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: nutildah on May 07, 2019, 03:38:56 AM
Hi Nutildah, our favorite troll attacking every posting about the FREE coin :)

About the prices :
1) we realized the price target for 2018
2) for 2019 we will certainly realize the price target in ETH, the price evolution of ETH itself will determine if we will realize the price target in USD ...

We estimate we are progressing as we hoped at start :)

Ok Ben, I challenge you to a gentleman's wager. If FREE ends the year with a market cap over $18 million, I will apologize to you on your thread and stop commenting there. If FREE ends the year with a market cap below $18 million, you have to apologize in your thread for misleading investors and the general public. Deal?


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange Listing requests !!
Post by: TalkStar on May 07, 2019, 04:25:25 AM
Mate, you still haven't responded to me.
I am trying to understand the kind of the trick the scammer uses to scam people.

Now I see your agenda has changed and you are now just advertising your coin.
Not disagree with you and way of advertisement is little bit tricky mate.


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange Listing requests !!
Post by: cryptobenn on May 07, 2019, 05:50:04 AM
Mate if I have followed your story correctly, I think you got scammed by a person claiming to be from digifinex.

I think someone used your project's email and set you a fake email asking you to pay so that you get listed.
I just checked digifinex, and they have a different procedure for listing coins

- Did you check here? https://www.digifinex.com/en-ww/listing#currency
If you did then you would have been able to download a listing form which has a very different email address from the ones you are talking about;

https://i.imgur.com/mAZSp0a.png

Also, I haven't seen anywhere where they say you contact @emyoung on telegram both on the website and form.


About 50 % of our (25) listings have been initiated by an invitation received from the Exchange via email. So this is not abnormal. In this case we got emails that we thought were comming from www.digifinex.com. They were sent by team@digifinex.com and support@digifinex.com (this is the official email address mentioned on the website).


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange Listing requests !!
Post by: cryptobenn on May 07, 2019, 05:55:17 AM
Mate, you still haven't responded to me.
I am trying to understand the kind of the trick the scammer uses to scam people.

Now I see your agenda has changed and you are now just advertising your coin.

My agenda has not changed : to warn to be very careful when you receive a listing invitation email that is said to be send by Digifinex.com. Check, double check, tripple check.

Yes, I start defending our project, only because some in this topic only use this topic to attack the FREE coin and call it a "scam".

That there are people that do not believe in our project, that think that we are naive, that do not give our project a chance, ... OK

But then immediately calling us a "SCAM" ?


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: cryptobenn on May 07, 2019, 06:03:38 AM
Hi Nutildah, our favorite troll attacking every posting about the FREE coin :)

About the prices :
1) we realized the price target for 2018
2) for 2019 we will certainly realize the price target in ETH, the price evolution of ETH itself will determine if we will realize the price target in USD ...

We estimate we are progressing as we hoped at start :)

Ok Ben, I challenge you to a gentleman's wager. If FREE ends the year with a market cap over $18 million, I will apologize to you on your thread and stop commenting there. If FREE ends the year with a market cap below $18 million, you have to apologize in your thread for misleading investors and the general public. Deal?

Lets meet on December 31st in our main topic, and see what our market value (of the 10 Trillion FREE) will be.

But you have also to be honest, when quoting selectively from our whitepaper.

The price evolution picture you published is in our whitepaper, but is preceeded by following text :

How will the price of the FREE coin evolve over a longer period of time ? We do of not have a crystal
ball to precisely predict how Demand and Supply will work, but we took 2 assumptions :

1) The price of the Ether will continue to increase (value per year see chart below)

2) The price of the FREE coin expressed in Ether will multiply each year with a factor 10

If these assumptions are confirmed, then this will lead to a explosive growth of the value of the FREE
coin – see below

Even if these assumptions are only partially confirmed, then the increase of the value of the FREE
coin will still be very profitable for the holders of this cryptocurrency.



So it is clear that we make a prediction based on clear assumptions. Yes we still believe in this prediction, and are investing heavily (out of our own private means as a self-funded token) to realize this.


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange !!
Post by: nutildah on May 07, 2019, 07:02:38 AM
2) The price of the FREE coin expressed in Ether will multiply each year with a factor 10

That's insanely unrealistic and the only reason you would make such incredible predictions is to rope suckers into buying a useless token.

Fine we'll include the whole 10 TRILLION tokens you minted into the market cap, even though one of your selling points for months was that you had 4 trillion of your tokens locked. Won't make much of a difference. You may pull some pump stunt to artificially raise the market cap above $18 million, which is why I'm adding the caveat that it must remain above $18 million for at least 2 weeks. It would cost you about $10k a day to pump your token up to that market cap and I don't think you could afford it for 2 weeks.

Every time you get listed on a new exchange you get first dibs on selling your huge stash of tokens at the lowest possible price. Once you figured this out you unlocked 2 trillion of your 4 trillion "locked" tokens so you could flood new exchanges with them; CMC noticed this and adjusted your circulating supply. In short, nobody makes a profit from your coin besides you.

But let's get back to the reason for you starting this thread: looks like you got conned by a scammer and now you're upset about it. Kind of ironic if you ask me.


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange Listing proposals !!
Post by: cryptobenn on May 07, 2019, 07:40:36 AM

if you look at www.bti.live, their analysis is that 90 till 99 % of all exchange volume is fake, even for major exchanges like dobitrade, bithumb, okex, hitbtc, ..


To do wash trading, you need a lot of capital. We are self funded, we never did an ico, most of the listing fees are paid by the project team members themselves.
So we have no money that could be used for wash trading, our volumes are real.

You also make a wrong assumption that the project team is first in line to create sales orders when the FREE coin is listed on a new exchange.
The exchange announces the listing date/time publicly. We do not have access to create sales orders before the other holders.
Furthermore most of our sales is done towards USD, subsatoshi BTC, ETH GWEI, DOGE, HTML, ... So everyone can put lower prices than existing orders.

Our sales volume expressed in USD is low, but is real.


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange Listing proposals !!
Post by: nutildah on May 07, 2019, 08:02:36 AM
My point is no one can place ask orders lower than you on most of the exchanges you trade on, therefore most people end up buying tokens from you and can never sell them for a higher price. Everyone who ever bought your token at a price of 1 satoshi or 1 gwei bought it from you, and is permanently sitting on a loss because your token will never increase in price past 1 gwei.

Your investors just want to own a million or a billion of something because it sounds cool and it's very cheap. They jump at the chance before questioning the projects fundamentals (of which there are none) on a pipe dream of someday magically becoming a millionaire.

You never actually addressed the questions of:

1. Why people should buy your token, and
2. What will make it to up in value.

Let me guess, people should buy it because it will go up in value and it will go up in value because people are buying it -- is that about right?


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange Listing proposals !!
Post by: bitbollo on May 11, 2019, 10:45:37 AM
I can't understand why you are feeding the troll after it was a clear attempt to post a fake scam accusations.
OP I haven't received any updated related the screenshot posted before. For me it's already a confirmation but anyway I am ready to hear more from you.


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange Listing proposals !!
Post by: bitbollo on May 11, 2019, 12:15:24 PM
REAL
http://i67.tinypic.com/20hlut2.png

FAKE
http://i68.tinypic.com/nb44l0.png
http://i68.tinypic.com/vqqukj.png

Just check by your self using an hotmail address ;)


Title: Re: WARNING for SCAM with DigiFinex Exchange Listing proposals !!
Post by: digifinex.journey on August 20, 2019, 09:11:35 AM
Hi, team FREE Coin,

My name is Journey Li and currently i'm working at DigiFinex as a PR & Comms Manager. Here is my Linkedin profile (https://www.linkedin.com/in/journey-li/).

I'm sorry to hear that you were tricked by a scammer, because we don't have a staff called Emma.

There are many channels to reach us, such as Twitter (@DigiFinex), Telegram (/DigiFinexEN), Facebook (@digifinex.global), LinkedIn (DigiFinex Global), and Reddit (r/digifinex).

For token listing you can also visit our website: https://www.digifinex.com/en-ww/listing#cooperation

Please verify before sending anyone any fund, because scammers can be very creative and convincing sometimes.

Stay safe.

Best regards,
Journey