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Title: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on March 29, 2011, 04:32:55 PM
Ok, everyone....since somebody pointed out that the poll is insecure...I will be requiring everybody to vote by posts.

In ordered to qualify for voting in this topic, you will need:

1. 10 posts.
2. Be around for at least one month.

You need to reply to this thread with either a Yay, Nay, or Half. Whatever you guys choose by most popular option, will be actions that we escrow agents will take(Need to talk to noagendmaket and bytemaster about this...)


Options explained:

1. Yay - yes for bounty prize release.
2. Nay - no for bounty prize release.
3. Half - half bounty prize release. Lack technical videos.

I will list all voters and tally them up continously.


You have one week to do this.. So that's April 5th 0:00 UTC being the deadline.


==Yay==
1. Genjix
2. gavinandresen
3. gusti
4. mpkomara
5. chmod755
6. lumos
7. BitterTea
8. grondilu
9. Mahkul
10. LMGTFY
11. stonetz
12. theGECK
13. ShadowOfHarbringer
14. theymos
15. eMansipater
16. slush
17. dacoinminster
18. doublec
19. noagendamarket
20. da2ce7
21. casascius
22. dissipate
23. m0mchil
24. molecular
25. Kiv
26. [mike]
27. JohnDoe
28. Atlas
29. M4v3R
30. OVerLoRDI
31. wobber
32. elewton
==Half==
1. TheKid


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: genjix on March 29, 2011, 04:34:11 PM
YES

Pay him all the cash already you stingy cunts! Do you know how much effort has gone into that quality video?

He's gone beyond what was expected IMO. Too many people offering bounties on these forums and then not paying up after/changing their terms.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: Gavin Andresen on March 29, 2011, 04:38:29 PM
yes


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: gusti on March 29, 2011, 04:42:35 PM
yes


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: mpkomara on March 29, 2011, 04:48:44 PM
yes


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: lumos on March 29, 2011, 04:58:24 PM
yay


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: BitterTea on March 29, 2011, 04:59:35 PM
I say yea, but I didn't contribute to the bounty.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: Garrett Burgwardt on March 29, 2011, 05:03:03 PM
Half, the original bounty was for a more technical video. While what they did was great, a more in depth video is needed. With the head start they have, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to make one detailing the workings of the bitcoin network.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: grondilu on March 29, 2011, 05:04:12 PM
Yay, of course.

Sure, the video is not perfect, but it's pretty damn good and come on :  if these guys don't deserve the bounty, who will???


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: N12 on March 29, 2011, 05:06:14 PM
Half, the original bounty was for a more technical video. While what they did was great, a more in depth video is needed. With the head start they have, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to make one detailing the workings of the bitcoin network.
I agree, although I didn’t contribute to the bounty, either. The video doesn’t exactly fit the thread’s requirements, but it’s really damn good, so I think that this would be fair and provide an incentive to do another one.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: Mahkul on March 29, 2011, 05:09:04 PM
Yes.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: grondilu on March 29, 2011, 05:13:25 PM

I understand genjix being kind of angry about that.


This is a no brainer:  the bounty should be paid for this excellent video and it would put a shame on the bitcoin community if it wasn't.   No need to wait until april 5th.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on March 29, 2011, 05:17:00 PM

I understand genjix being kind of angry about that.


This is a no brainer:  the bounty should be paid for this excellent video and it would put a shame on the bitcoin community if it wasn't.   No need to wait until april 5th.


I want to make sure that the bitcoin community is on board with this.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: LMGTFY on March 29, 2011, 05:21:05 PM
Yes.

Ashamed to say it's the first time I've watched the (excellent) video.

Also ashamed to say I've contributed nothing to the bounty. What address can I send my contribution to?

Done (http://blockexplorer.com/search/933c3b6ac91d299153f97c68080f60897d1583b8b110cae995dbfcacb30ac06d). (Thanks, Kiba!)


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on March 29, 2011, 05:25:05 PM
Yes.

Ashamed to say it's the first time I've watched the (excellent) video.

Also ashamed to say I've contributed nothing to the bounty. What address can I send my contribution to?

For all the people who wants to send bitcoin to the escrow account for this bounty: 129GMPhks7k5bQnNJM4byLb4bE9nHCBSqP


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: Jered Kenna (TradeHill) on March 29, 2011, 05:40:42 PM
Yes, I hadn't previously contributed but liked the video so much I sent some coin.

Yeah it's not as technical as we would have liked but I think it's an amazing video.
The quality is a lot higher than I had expected honestly.

I'd like to see them make another but I have no idea how much time went in to it.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on March 29, 2011, 06:18:28 PM
I see a transactions coming out in the block explorer for that mybitcoin address. It could be an artifact of how mybitcoin works and not anything bad...let me investigate.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on March 29, 2011, 06:22:05 PM
I see a transactions coming out in the block explorer for that mybitcoin address. It could be an artifact of how mybitcoin works and not anything bad...let me investigate.

Yep. Nothing happens.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: Jered Kenna (TradeHill) on March 29, 2011, 06:23:35 PM
I see a transactions coming out in the block explorer for that mybitcoin address. It could be an artifact of how mybitcoin works and not anything bad...let me investigate.

Yep. Nothing happens.

I didn't send much, my BTC bank is almost empty.
Figured a little bit helps though, if nothing else it's symbolic  ;D
Maybe throw some more at it when I reload.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on March 29, 2011, 06:27:07 PM
I didn't send much, my BTC bank is almost empty.
Figured a little bit helps though, if nothing else it's symbolic  ;D
Maybe throw some more at it when I reload.

I was investigating if somebody sent money from the mybitcoin address. It turns out nobody did. Mybitcoin works by keeping its own internal database of who owns what, rather than using addresses to indicate who own what.

Somebody in the mybitcoin system sent money to somebody else. It just so happens that bitcoin in that address was used.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: Jered Kenna (TradeHill) on March 29, 2011, 06:28:42 PM
I didn't send much, my BTC bank is almost empty.
Figured a little bit helps though, if nothing else it's symbolic  ;D
Maybe throw some more at it when I reload.

I was investigating if somebody sent money from the mybitcoin address. It turns out nobody did. Mybitcoin works by keeping its own internal database of who owns what, rather than using addresses to indicate who own what.

Somebody in the mybitcoin system sent money to somebody else. It just so happens that bitcoin in that address was used.

Didn't assume you were calling me cheap haha.
Just clarifying what I did in case it made you confused or looked weird etc.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: Alex Beckenham on March 29, 2011, 06:29:20 PM
Well here's a non-qualified 'yes' from someone who hasn't been around for a whole month yet.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: theGECK on March 29, 2011, 06:30:35 PM
YES! They should get that money - it's one of the better infoporn videos out there for any topic.

Also, is it too late to donate some BTC to the bounty? Should I just send it to the address in the bounty thread, or is that address invalid now?


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on March 29, 2011, 06:34:54 PM
YES! They should get that money - it's one of the better infoporn videos out there for any topic.

Also, is it too late to donate some BTC to the bounty? Should I just send it to the address in the bounty thread, or is that address invalid now?

Don't do that. Send bitcoin to the address I listed in this thread.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: ShadowOfHarbringer on March 29, 2011, 07:55:08 PM
YES, definately yes.

Give him all the money.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: Jered Kenna (TradeHill) on March 29, 2011, 08:14:35 PM


If you're in contact with them ask them if they would consider making other movies etc.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: theymos on March 29, 2011, 08:17:14 PM
Yes. The bounty specifications were not entirely met, but the quality is excellent.

I think only people with money in the escrow account should be able to vote, though. (Which would disqualify me.)


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: eMansipater on March 29, 2011, 08:22:57 PM
I didn't contribute to the bounty until afterward, but if bounty contributors are looking for a community vote, my vote is:

Yay.

We do need a technical video, but they are going to do that anyways so we should just go ahead and give them the bounty.  Is my opinion.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: slush on March 29, 2011, 10:12:55 PM
Yes (Althought I already sent my money directly to the justmoon). I'm sure that with those funds, justmoon&team will produce perfect in-depth video next time.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: error on March 29, 2011, 11:39:56 PM
I will abstain from voting at this time. I thought the video at weusecoins.com was TOO technical. Specifically it placed too much emphasis on mining. My ideal introductory video would not discuss mining at all if it could possibly be avoided, and I don't think it's necessary to explain mining to people who have never heard of Bitcoin and are trying to determine whether they should bother accepting or using them.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: dacoinminster on March 30, 2011, 12:44:11 AM
Yay.

Dang. Did I hear correctly that the bounty was 8000 BTC? Nice.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on March 30, 2011, 12:46:28 AM
It is clear that aside a few individuals, the community made it clear that they want the bounty released to the animation guy.

However, a sample of 18 individuals is not enough to represent the whole community. So, if you did not vote, vote!


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: doublec on March 30, 2011, 12:58:21 AM
Yes


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: Anonymous on March 30, 2011, 03:29:34 AM
I say yes.

fwiw they said they will be making more videos down the road .




Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on March 30, 2011, 03:31:27 AM
I say yes.

fwiw they said they will be making more videos down the road .


Now, all we need to do is get bytemaster on board with following the decisions of the voters.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: da2ce7 on March 30, 2011, 04:07:00 AM
Yay


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: casascius on March 30, 2011, 05:12:19 AM
No.

Just kidding, yes.  Is this still even a question?


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on March 30, 2011, 05:13:44 AM
No.

Just kidding, yes.  Is this still even a question?

Partial procedural operation and partially because everyone did not voted.

I am stickifying it.

P.S. If somebody can make it a forum wide announcement, that would be great.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: dissipate on March 30, 2011, 05:34:50 AM
I vote yes.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: caveden on March 30, 2011, 07:34:55 AM
Wouldn't it be more fair if only those which have donated to the said bounty could vote?
I didn't contribute so I don't feel like I get to say anything.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: m0mchil on March 30, 2011, 07:46:33 AM
Yes.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: molecular on March 30, 2011, 10:50:08 AM
YES

technically, it should be HALF, but for some reason I trust these people to put the "leftovers" into the next clip.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: Kiv on March 30, 2011, 10:53:36 AM
yes


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: Mike Hearn on March 30, 2011, 09:13:19 PM
Yes.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: JohnDoe on March 30, 2011, 09:55:40 PM
Aye

So when is the poll closing? I think the vote in favor is way beyond the margin of error now.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: JohnDoe on March 30, 2011, 09:57:07 PM
Wouldn't it be more fair if only those which have donated to the said bounty could vote?
I didn't contribute so I don't feel like I get to say anything.

There's no way to tell who donated.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on March 31, 2011, 03:29:13 PM
28 people had casted their votes. Comeon, I know that isn't everybody.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: CCCMikey on March 31, 2011, 03:34:56 PM
Did the original bounty post list all the requirements clearly?

If it did, count the met number of requirements then count the total number of requirements. Multiply the bounty by that ratio :)

2:35am, I'm off to sleep :)


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on March 31, 2011, 03:35:43 PM
Did the original bounty post list all the requirements clearly?

If it did, count the met number of requirements then count the total number of requirements. Multiply the bounty by that ratio :)

2:35am, I'm off to sleep :)

It seems that the video was so good that it doesn't matter if it doesn't meet the requirements.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: ­­­Atlas_ on March 31, 2011, 03:46:46 PM
Yay.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: theGECK on March 31, 2011, 03:54:11 PM
YES! They should get that money - it's one of the better infoporn videos out there for any topic.

Also, is it too late to donate some BTC to the bounty? Should I just send it to the address in the bounty thread, or is that address invalid now?

Don't do that. Send bitcoin to the address I listed in this thread.

Just sent out now.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: M4v3R on April 02, 2011, 03:12:43 PM
yay


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: OVerLoRDI on April 02, 2011, 07:41:02 PM
Yes


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: wobber on April 02, 2011, 07:46:34 PM
Yes.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: caveden on April 02, 2011, 08:20:41 PM
Wouldn't it be more fair if only those which have donated to the said bounty could vote?
I didn't contribute so I don't feel like I get to say anything.

There's no way to tell who donated.

Yes, there could be, by signing some message with the private key of the sending bitcoin address.
I think there are some tools out there to extract the private keys from your wallet.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on April 02, 2011, 08:35:33 PM

Yes, there could be, by signing some message with the private key of the sending bitcoin address.
I think there are some tools out there to extract the private keys from your wallet.

Perhaps somebody should develop a site that help deal with the bounty process.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: The Script on April 03, 2011, 02:45:05 AM

I'm not really into democracy, so I'm not going to vote.   I thought they did a fantastic job with the video, however.  I was really impressed.

It seems like the people who contributed the money should get to decide.  I understand that there was an escrow account set up and people anonymously donated, but I thought the lion's share of the bounty came from publicly stated donations from a few individuals.  Shouldn't they simply get to decide whether the video lived up to their expectations?  However, if they agree to let the community decide that is their choice.

I agree that the bounty process needs to be stream-lined. 


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: nphard on April 03, 2011, 03:14:23 AM
yes.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on April 03, 2011, 03:21:11 AM
yes.

Disqualified.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: elewton on April 04, 2011, 08:30:48 PM
I've just contributed to the bounty so that I could meaningfully vote yes.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on April 05, 2011, 12:19:44 AM
With the ratio of 32 yay to 1 half, I shall execute the decision to give WeUseCoins production team the full bounty prize. Congratulation.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on April 05, 2011, 12:30:35 AM
The full bounty prize, 8511.96 BTC is sent to the address 17eSZivDJpuJp9TxezTXVxkgLbsr3XZM1i owned by JustMoon.

This address was in his signature space: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2211


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: kiba on April 05, 2011, 01:17:19 AM
http://blockexplorer.com/address/17eSZivDJpuJp9TxezTXVxkgLbsr3XZM1i

The transaction is confirmed.


Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: Stefan Thomas on April 05, 2011, 03:36:53 AM
Indeed it is:

03:49 <justmoon> I think I'm gonna donate 33.16 to the fund to make it a round 9000 :D
...
03:51 <justmoon> ok, 33.16 are on the way :)
...
03:57 <justmoon> aww, some asshole donated 1 btc, now we have 9001 *where are my OCD pills*
03:57 <Kiba> rofl
03:57 <ArtForz> it's over 9000!
03:57 <justmoon> ROFL

Good times.  :D

Anyway. The WeUseCoins marketing fund is now officially in operation with a budget of 9001 BTC.

First order of business is to pay off the costs for the existing video. It's 5:34am so I'll go to bed and do that when I'm less tired.

Second order of business is to get your input on what needs to be in the second video. You can get started already, I'll jump in tomorrow: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400.0

If you have questions regarding the bounty and how it'll be used, most of that will be already answered in the original bounty thread: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697.msg70001#msg70001

Still, feel free to post here or PM me with any questions, suggestions or feedback.

MASSIVE THANKS to the organizers, Kiba, noagendamarket, bytemaster, everybody who voted and everybody who helped since the first time we announced that we were working on this. We won't let you down!



Title: Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE
Post by: ShadowOfHarbringer on April 05, 2011, 05:21:41 AM
Can we please lock/close & unpin the original bounty topic (http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697.0) so no bloody necromancer can revive it anymore ?