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Title: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: ankit11 on May 10, 2019, 04:08:31 PM
Banned Account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816537 (ankit10)
Banned for this posts:
http://prntscr.com/nmv28v
http://prntscr.com/nmv2l1
http://prntscr.com/nmv2pq
http://prntscr.com/nmv2v0
http://prntscr.com/nmv36h
My deleted posts history can find here: https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php

My most of posts are deleted from 2017. I accept those posts are copy and pasted from Social Media and other sources. At that time I was not aware of such things. In 2018 I realize (I am active member of forum) that I should quote and add source name in copy posts. Like I did here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669443.msg50895570#msg50895570
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138744.msg50881855#msg50881855

Yes, I should get punished for what I did, MODs can ban me from joining signature campaign for weeks or months but please remove ban from my account.

My report accuracy is more than 90% (when I last checked) and I reported more than 30 posts (from what I remember).

Tried to find scammer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132407.msg50625879#msg50625879
Helped to find scammer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116240.msg49996134#msg49996134
Recently trying to find another scam Virtual Rehab ICO (not sure if they are scam or not ICOEthics may check them)

Tried to help forum members from my little knowledge:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139519.msg50911386#msg50911386
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139173.msg50924704#msg50924704
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139124.msg50923963#msg50923963
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136561.msg50873725#msg50873725
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5131648.msg50869185#msg50869185
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827109.msg50623489#msg50623489





I tried my best to help forum members and serve this forum with what I have. @hilariousandco I am expecting to get my Ban removed from me.

All what I can say that I will never do that spam works again and will try my best to serve this community.

Thanks








 




Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco
Post by: coupable on May 10, 2019, 04:31:58 PM
I'm so sorry Ankit10, that is unfortunate.

Your ban message may have an email address which you can email. Did you try to make your appeal using that mail?
Exception was made to unban few number of users recently. There is no garantee but it did happen.
I totally  agree that Plagiarism should not be tolerated, i also think you are a good forum user and deserve to belong to this community.

You have my support. Wish you all the lack!


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco
Post by: hilariousandco on May 10, 2019, 04:42:27 PM
Contact theymos about it and state your case to him. Maybe he will issue a sig ban but only he can do that.


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco
Post by: Quickseller on May 10, 2019, 05:09:05 PM
Are all of your deleted/plagiarized posts from 2017?

If so, I would argue a xx day ban plus a long term signature ban would probably be more appropriate. This is based on the merit received (receiving a single merit puts you in the >1%), and a brief review of your examples of contributions.

You should email the email address in your ban message if there is one.


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco
Post by: TMAN on May 10, 2019, 05:23:23 PM
Oh dude you are a dick, I like your posts and you are of value to the beginners sub. Luckily for you the new system is more lenient on guys like you who are a net positive to this place.

Sentence the man to a two year signature ban and let him back on please theymos


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco
Post by: ankit11 on May 10, 2019, 05:24:16 PM
Contact theymos about it and state your case to him. Maybe he will issue a sig ban but only he can do that.
Thanks, I sent message to theymos and email, which I can see on my Ban message.

You should email the email address in your ban message if there is one.
Done thanks @Quickseller

Thanks @coupable

Oh dude you are a dick, I like your posts and you are of value to the beginners sub. Luckily for you the new system is more lenient on guys like you who are a net positive to this place.

Sentence the man to a two year signature ban and let him back on please theymos
Thanks @TMAN


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco
Post by: r1s2g3 on May 10, 2019, 05:52:02 PM
Look like somebody dig your past.

I guess we have to define the degree/type of plagiarism  in this forum. Reposting of content ICO (that I guess, ICO are happy if you are giving them free publicity.) is very different than copying the original content of the author where author really need recognition of its own content.

Hope, theymos may unban you.


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco
Post by: ankit11 on May 11, 2019, 07:19:32 AM
Look like somebody dig your past.

I guess we have to define the degree/type of plagiarism  in this forum. Reposting of content ICO (that I guess, ICO are happy if you are giving them free publicity.) is very different than copying the original content of the author where author really need recognition of its own content.

Hope, theymos may unban you.
I checked/checking my profile more than 50 times till now and still not unban.

Yeah, I thought same that someone digged my past but when I saw there are many people who got Ban then i think this is done my moderators to keep forum clean.

Currently I can't say anything on new rule for plagiarism.

Again: Already sent email and message to theymos.
Waiting for theymos.

One more thing what I can do is I can search my spam/inappropriate posts and delete them


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: coinlocket$ on May 11, 2019, 08:39:19 AM
I Don't think that anyone is permanent banned for spamming, maybe you get only temp ban for spamming

Code:
1 	CryptoToxicAvenger 	2,770 	Full Member 	8/26/2014 9:48:53 PM 	4 days ago 	20 hours ago
2 cheddur_announce 922 Newbie 11/22/2017 7:41:18 PM 32 days ago 2 days ago
3 John.Verdon761232 654 Copper Member 11/17/2017 2:14:36 PM 47 days ago 2 days ago
4 CoinRanker 577 Jr. Member 1/10/2018 8:15:50 PM 65 days ago 6 days ago
5 crypt0next 564 Newbie 2/4/2018 8:19:15 AM 135 days ago 7 days ago

We have people whit over 2k deleted messages and no ban.

Source: https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=postsdeleted


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: ankit11 on May 11, 2019, 02:49:25 PM
I Don't think that anyone is permanent banned for spamming, maybe you get only temp ban for spamming

Code:
1 	CryptoToxicAvenger 	2,770 	Full Member 	8/26/2014 9:48:53 PM 	4 days ago 	20 hours ago
2 cheddur_announce 922 Newbie 11/22/2017 7:41:18 PM 32 days ago 2 days ago
3 John.Verdon761232 654 Copper Member 11/17/2017 2:14:36 PM 47 days ago 2 days ago
4 CoinRanker 577 Jr. Member 1/10/2018 8:15:50 PM 65 days ago 6 days ago
5 crypt0next 564 Newbie 2/4/2018 8:19:15 AM 135 days ago 7 days ago

We have people whit over 2k deleted messages and no ban.

Source: https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=postsdeleted
No dude I got ban permanent check below Image:

https://i.imgur.com/gh1tkit.png


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: erikalui on May 11, 2019, 02:59:07 PM
Checked the other thread and got to know somebody is running some bot to detect copy-pasted content posted years earlier and hence in 2 days, there have been 700+ bans and looks like the number will increase as many users don't even know which content is termed plagiarism and instead of quoting the message, some users use "quotes" and such content is also termed as copy-paste as ref link is not added. Some users were paid to post some message for a campaign and all the users got perm banned.


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: lobcmt2 on May 11, 2019, 03:03:28 PM
You are wrong. Quote blocks accepted and are not considered as plagiarism.


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: erikalui on May 11, 2019, 03:08:39 PM
"....." is plagiarism as it's posted without a ref link. I am glad photos are not considered as many images posted on the forum are not copyright-free.


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: r1s2g3 on May 11, 2019, 03:25:18 PM
Checked the other thread and got to know somebody is running some bot to detect copy-pasted content posted years earlier and hence in 2 days, there have been 700+ bans and looks like the number will increase as many users don't even know which content is termed plagiarism and instead of quoting the message, some users use "quotes" and such content is also termed as copy-paste as ref link is not added. Some users were paid to post some message for a campaign and all the users got perm banned.

I will say to use word source link instead of ref. link.
I hope these mass ban will serve the lesson to the ICO shillers too who are getting paid for shilling without creating any content.


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: lobcmt2 on May 11, 2019, 04:40:13 PM
"....." is plagiarism as it's posted without a ref link. I am glad photos are not considered as many images posted on the forum are not copyright-free.
" .... " is not considered as plagiarism just in case you use common phrases that everyone knows  (theymos said it is not plagiarism, even in universities).

Quote blocks means you put contents inside this block, without author names, or links of topics/ posts, but you clearly state that it is not yours own words.
Code:
[quote]
Contents
[/quote]

Photos:
Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data.. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5107275.msg49631520#msg49631520)
Quote
- That's not plagiarism.


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: Lauda on May 12, 2019, 02:19:02 PM
Has nobody figured out yet the exact reason for which he/she was banned?


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: erikalui on May 12, 2019, 02:31:43 PM
^Plagiarism. OP admitted it as well:


My most of posts are deleted from 2017. I accept those posts are copy and pasted from Social Media and other sources. At that time I was not aware of such things. In 2018 I realize (I am active member of forum) that I should quote and add source name in copy posts. Like I did here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669443.msg50895570#msg50895570
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138744.msg50881855#msg50881855



Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: Petyab21 on May 13, 2019, 01:41:34 PM
Has nobody figured out yet the exact reason for which he/she was banned?

reason for account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1977670: Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #1977670

:)


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: LTU_btc on May 13, 2019, 09:19:35 PM
I'm sorry to hear that you got banned, because you're great member of our community. But this ban shows that forum rules are equal for everyone. You're not random spammer who copied content in order just to farm signature campaigns. Maybe theymos will consider to unban you and give signature ban after seing your contribution.
But there is one thing that I don't like - it's digging very deep in old posts in order just to ban someone. And now matter that user did that mistake only once, then changed his bejaviour and become good member of community. It's looking for skeleton in the cupboard. Maybe these things are done using bot as said above, but it doesn't change my opinion.


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: Petyab21 on May 14, 2019, 07:01:55 AM
But there is one thing that I don't like - it's digging very deep in old posts in order just to ban someone. And now matter that user did that mistake only once, then changed his bejaviour and become good member of community.

Completely agree with this statement.

User made a mistake post one or few years ago. If this is the only mistake he/she obviously got familiar with rules and changed the behavior. Why ban if user is no longer making a mistakes or act against the rules in period like 1 year or longer. In this case delete the post and send user a warning you made mistake 1 year ago.

2nd plagiarism is forbidden but why are those post still on forum. If you ban the user because of that you should delete those post as well.


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: ankit11 on May 15, 2019, 07:22:49 AM
Thanks @LTU_btc

Guys, is this profile got unban https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1021758 and ban for signature ?
He created thread just today https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143331.0

and got unban instantly  :o



   


Title: Re: Just another case of BAN . Help @hilariousandco @theymos
Post by: lobcmt2 on May 15, 2019, 07:32:00 AM
As always, the account received ban uplift due to past contributions to the forum. Once more ban-uplifted account, with signature banned for two-year period. I don't know because theymos has never mentioned about the period of signature ban for ban-uplifted accounts, but it seems that the common period is two-year. Only one account is Limx Dev (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=389271), that has not shown signature months after ban uplifted, but there is no text on signature ban period in his  account's signature place.